The Jimquisition: A Nintendo Switch ‘Room Temperature’ Take

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Let’s jump aboard the Nintendo Switch content train and hump it. Hump it until our genitals bleed!

Seriously though, we’re talking about Nintendo’s marketing this week, and the importance of visual communication when selling a product.

Also, #PerformanceMatters n’ stuff!

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley
It all depends on if the tablet comes with a portable charger or not if I buy it. If the only way to charge it is on that slot thing, then I will wait to buy it. I would love to take it around with me when I’m away from home and stuff. I’ve heard Nintendo has much better third party support at the moment, but I feel they will just be ports of 360/PS3 games, u know the ones that were released during the late wii days and all of the u days. I agree, when I first watched… Read more »
Nighter3D
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Nighter3D

Docking connector is in the bottom of the switch. Various parts of the trailer show a Cable connected to the bottom which seems highly likely to be to provide power. tough it’s location seem to suggest you can’t charge it while it’s on it’s little kickstand

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

Dog: “OSHIT! SQUIRREL! MUST RUN MUST BARK!”
Dude: “Hold up, Sparky; I still need to farm thirty Rupees…”

Not that any tech-related marketing agency has any idea of how the stuff they peddle is actually put to use, though. They can prognosticate, I’m still sure the Switch won’t be used as a mobile system by all users.

I mean, I have commutes to handle every other day, but I’m already packing a smartphone and an e-reader. I’m not going to bog myself down with a handheld on top of that.

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

It all depends on how much you want to play Mario kart really.

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

Let’s just say I’ve never ended up in a bus or a subway train and thought “Oh man, I do wish I had a console in front of me at this instant, because I’ve got a mad hankering for some Marios and potentially Karts!”

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

Lol! I’ve been on planes and thought it.

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

I’m mostly a PC gamer with a small stake in the PS4 and PS3, and gaming on the go is something I’ve never been able to fully enjoy.

I mean, I whip out the tablet and a few games once I’ve reached my destination, but playing *while* I’m moving just makes me queasy as fuck. Motion sickness and whatnot.

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

Unlucky.
I usually just blast music while traveling, so I wouldn’t use it any way. I would use it once I arrived though.

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

Yeah, like a camping trip? I’d use the Switch’s tablet config myself, in that case. Visiting friends abroad or across town for a few days, maybe prolonged business trips with some downtime as well. None of that qualifies as such a frequent occurrence that I’d settle my choice of console based on that, though.

I just can’t game in cars or trains. The body says “Hey, you’re moving! You need to visually assess that movement!” but the mind obviously is focused on the screen. Fast-forward a few minutes and I feel like blowing chunks.

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

Must be bad. I’ve never felt travel sick.

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

I always pack for trips dreaming of long hours in the back seat, with Jazz on the car’s stereo and my favorite page-turner in my hands. I always want that to be made concrete, but typically end up closing the book and staring outside while the scenery rolls by. If I *look* at the outside world while I’m moving, I’m fine.

The most I can manage is music, and maybe the occasional minute or so spent texting.

Gurphardt
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The moment that dog pulls the leash when he isn’t paying attention is gonna send that console crashing to the floor.

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

And there happy because he needs to buy a new tablet!

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Now that was a rad nostalgia trip to the 80s and 90s.

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

What was that one show with all the skeletons? I caught “Denver the Last Dinosaur”, but the rest is stuck in tip-of-the-tongue territory. I’ve watched it all, of that much I’m certain; I just don’t remember…

Gurphardt
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Skeleton Warriors

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

Thanks!

Exley97
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Exley97

I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so hard watching a Jimquisition. The trailer breakdown nearly gave me a hernia. Bravo.

Cindipool
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Cindipool

I hope we get more Nintendo episodes so we can have more shots of Jim dancing.

Marcus Cohen
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Marcus Cohen

Jim, didn’t you forget to thank God this week?

MJC
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MJC

He’s not supposed to thank god, we are.

Marcus Cohen
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Marcus Cohen

Did you?

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

Of course!

Locuas
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i think you mean Chip forgot to thank god thi sweek.

diamond
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diamond
Eh, still not interested now, there’s not enough titles to grab my attention(not a Zelda fan) I want to support the strike, but it’s hard to when there are programmers who work much harder and get paid a lot less(who BTW are NOT happy about the strike) then VAs do, really it’s their work which sells the games, not voice actors(not saying they aren’t important, but let’s be realistic, nobody buys a game specifically because a certain VA is in it the same way people will seek out a film or TV show because it stars a certain actor people… Read more »
MJC
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MJC

Did you watch the video? Jim discussed that very point right at the start.

Camfry
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Camfry

And quite eloquently I thought

guy smiley
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guy smiley
Are you suggesting VA’s should wait around enjoying their shitty situation, until the programmers get off their asses and win a fight for better conditions first? And until then, VA’s aren’t allowed to? Also: “they don’t have to work hours and hours of unpaid overtime” – yeah they don’t, and neither should programmers. Don’t pretend that cos their situation is a bit better they have no problems, or that their work is really easy because it’s different to a programmers job. As for the royalties, from what I hear they just want parity with Hollywood actors, who do get royalties.… Read more »
diamond
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diamond
I’m saying they should’ve taken the offer for a 9% pay raise. Also way to insult developers assholes, Never said they didn’t have problems, just saying that their problems are minor compared to what devs go through. Their work really isn’t that hard compared to programmers though, that’s just the cold hard truth. They shouldn’t get parity with Hollywood actors, because sorry to break it to you, voice actors don’t sell games the same way actors sell movies and TV shows, but there aren’t really any people who will buy a game simply because Nolan North or Troy Baker is… Read more »
Maluco
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Maluco
Gameplay alone does not sell games either, and gameplay is not solely made by programmers either. It takes implementation at levels to make good gameplay, programming, design, asset creation, voice & mocap performances, and so much more all contribute to good gameplay. Programming as an industry would rather snipe at other union movements than show solidarity, so they probably shouldn’t whine when other industries strike for and secure what they believe they’re worth. That doesn’t validate developer conditions, merely that there is a clear precedent for how workers get better conditions that they seem philisophically opposed to, but that is… Read more »
diamond
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diamond

It’s a pretty fucking massive part of what sells a game(at least compared to voice acting) programmers have every right to complain, hell there’s plenty of other VAs that do not agree with the strike.

It is not “their loss”

Maluco
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Maluco

It is totally their loss if they decide not to fight for their own rights to pay & conditions. If programmers don’t bargain they don’t get. Passive aggressive sniping of other unions doesn’t get you paid, industrial action against the companies mistreating you DOES.

diamond
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diamond

It’s not “passive aggressive” though, it’s righteous anger at seeing someone else try and ask for more when they are already in a far better position. That’s one of the main reasons why the 2010 SAG strike never happened, the economy was in far worse shape then when the WGA strike happened, and actors already made a considerably amount of money, so they didn’t want to risk looking greedy by asking for more.

Maluco
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Maluco
Scabs gonna scab I guess. Look, unions look out for their members, it’s that simple. Developers don’t get the benefits of solidarity because they don’t engage in it, crabs in a bucket all fighting over crumbs. It’s ridiculous, software and therefore developers as a whole are critical to near every business, yet they’re utterly terrified that they can’t strike because they’ll be replaced en masse. All the anti union sentiment has done its job if developers won’t fight for better conditions, but they won’t get fucking shit if they tear down other union efforts, it’ll just strengthen the resistance against… Read more »
diamond
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diamond
Not all unions do, some don’t give a fuck, I was with a union while I worked at a local grocery store, and I overheard one of the senior employees talk about how she had been screwed over by one of her bosses and was unable to do anything about it, and there were many employees who complained about how “weak” the union had become, that was one of many reasons why I left that job. Developers absolutely fucking deserve to be put up on a pedestal(you’re starting to sound like that piece of shit Alex St. John) for all… Read more »
Maluco
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Maluco
Duh, not all unions, they can be corrupt or weak just like, y’know, companies. If you’re tearing down your own union don’t be surprised if it ends up unwilling or unable to bat for you. I think you’re getting hung up on the whole developers thing and missing the rest of the post. If developers are so much more deserving of action than voice actors, asset creators, or whatever then maybe they should unionise to get theirs rather tearing other disciplines’ efforts down. The fact you think I come from at ALL the same place as Alex St John just… Read more »
diamond
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diamond

As if my own union would’ve ever gone to bat for me, they sure as fuck didn’t help the person who was much higher up then I was, so there was no way they would’ve done jack shit for me, so I bailed and left that place because of that(and because of some of my co-workers being racist assholes)

Maluco
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Maluco

Yes, but that crappy union is there because corporate interests eroded unions for years beforehand. If you don’t want crappy unions, don’t tear down unions that are doing their job representing their members.

diamond
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diamond

Unions are not blameless, and they’ve done plenty of eroding themselves. It takes two to tango.

Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh

Stop calling what VA’s are asking for royalties. It is a bonus structure. Every two million new subscribers, downloads, or purchases, the voice actor would receive a secondary bonus pay until that video game IP hits eight million hits, making a total of four bonus payments.

Steve Blum has a breakdown of it all on his site.

Oh and the fact that GTA 5 didn’t use Union VA’s is not to be lauded, it is gross & exploitative.

diamond
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diamond
I’m calling it exactly what the VAs themselves have called it you moron. They’ve used the word royalties plenty of times, or have you not been paying attention? Not EVERY game HAS to use union VAs, it’s not “gross”(stupid overrused term BTW) or “exploitative”, it’s actually a good thing that Rockstar isn’t relying on the same handful of well-known VAs that Activision and EA or depending, overrusing people like North and Baker only makes it harder for lesser known non-unionized VAs out there to get noticed. Maybe now video game characters in EA and Activision games won’t all start to… Read more »
Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh
wow Diamond, I didn’t realise pointing out that you were mistaken would touch such a nerve. Because if you’ve launched so quickly into name calling, over a clarification of what VA’s are asking for then I clearly upset you. VA’s are calling it compensation or a bonus structure on their Union website & on Steve Blum’s site. I believe that they were originally asking for royalties at the beginning of the talks (a year ago), but this new deal mentions bonuses. Royalties implies they get a % of each sale, which is not what they are asking for. Perhaps you… Read more »
Henriette Gaston
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Henriette Gaston

Or maybe you’ve never been in a union. Just a thought.

Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh

I’m in a union now. or did you not mean to reply to me. As your comment doesn’t make a whole lot of sense in the context of my reply.

Henriette Gaston
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Henriette Gaston

Generally, people who praise unions as inherently good don’t have first-hand experiences.

Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh

I realise that unions can be shitty, there can be collusion between union leadership & management BUT unions are still an important tool for workers rights. Industries without them have been slipping back to over working their employees, just look at game development.

More hours doesn’t equal a more productive workforce as humans who work without a break or time away from work for too long will lose productivity. This is way breaks, proper working conditions & time off are important. It helps productivity & the health & well being of the worker.

saintalex
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saintalex

I admire your patience in challenging decades of pervasive propaganda designed to make working class people work against their own interests. The old “A union was bad once so they’re a bad idea” argument is always particularly fun. Those who parrot anti-union nonsense are rarely keen enough to work twelve hours a day, seven days a week as they would be without the work of unions.

Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh

I know what you mean. I know unions aren’t perfect but it boggles my mind to see working & middle class people who are against them. The labour movement is still so important, workers rights are being eroded, wages have stagnated, people work 40hrs & still need government benefits to survive etc. and for some reason people are still against unions.

saintalex
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saintalex

The Thatcher/Reagan propaganda runs deep. It’s amazing how completely one can convince working people to oppose their own interests with a few false promises of future prosperity. Incidentally I would have replied sooner but I seem to have been banned from Jim’s site for some reason.

saintalex
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saintalex

It’s always useful when weak-minded little boys like you show us all how repulsive you are; it makes it easier to know who to block.

diamond
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diamond

If anyone’s a “weak-minded little boy” or “repulsive”, it’s you, you stupid fucking cocksucker.

ATBro
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ATBro

“but let’s be realistic, nobody buys a game specifically because a certain VA is in it the same way people will seek out a film or TV show because it stars a certain actor people like”

No body buys a game because Jimmy Smith was a programmer on it, but if Jimmy Smits were in it, I’d take notice.

diamond
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diamond

But there would be no game without the programmers, so even if the buying the game don’t know the devs by name, it’s still their work that makes people want to buy the game.

Plus keep in mind there are a lot of gamers who care a lot more about gameplay then they do about the story such as Total Biscuit.

Nobody's Fanboy
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Nobody's Fanboy
I’ll admit it’s got me intrigued. Granted, I saw U as a missed opportunity; 3-4 years ago there was a huge to-do about second-screen in games, and if any system was going to prove it as a concept it was Nintendo’s entry since it was the only one that didn’t assume you were either so selfish that you had to hog both the TV and the tablet, or that you were so affluent that everyone in the house had one of each. My big concerns are how well the clicky things are going to hold up, and whether or not… Read more »
Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs
Nintendo’s spent the last two console gens working on games based on their quality, rather than their visual fidelity. As nobody develops for a Nintendo console quite in the same way Nintendo’s own in-house teams do, most of their stuff basically screamed that they had a solid handle on the features they’d implemented in the hardware. That sense of competence was a system-seller to me, back when the Wii was brand-spanking new. Considering, when I see people complain that Ninty’s offerings are underpowered, I’m not surprised at all. Of course they are; they’re not directed towards hardcore console gamers or… Read more »
Benj
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Benj

#PerformanceMatters… Ladies.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

And gents!

MJC
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MJC

I think that golf thing did happen when Wii Sports got ported to/remastered for Wii U. Not that having a screen showing a ball on the floor changed the way you played the game. I think I used it for one hole, then realized it didn’t matter and picked up the gamepad because I was paranoid about stepping on it.

Performance definitely matters and anyone whining about the voice actors wanting to not be treated like shit can have one of those middle fingers from me as well.

NohatCoder
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NohatCoder

#PerformanceMatters

I’m 100% with you on that one! This mobile phone disguised as a console simply will not do! Real gamers need real computers to play real games!

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs
Eh, there’s a lot of variants to the purported “real gamer”… If you’re a dedicated PC user, you’ve built yourself a powerhouse PC. If you’re more the console type, you’re probably gravitating towards the Xbox One or the PS4. If you’re part of King’s whales and got sucked into Candy Crush, then odds are you’re using a tablet for sedentary play sessions, and a phone on the go. As yes, even your Match-3-obsessed mother or aunt is a gamer, if she spends upwards of five to six hours a day swapping tiles around. Then there’s Nintendo’s crowd. The hardware hardly… Read more »
Mr. Tastee
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Mr. Tastee
I’ve never been a fan of the term “real gamer” either but I think NohatCoder is being sarcastic. Either way I see no point to the constant bickering between console and PC players. One thing that baffles me is why anyone takes the time or energy to hate something just because it was not made specifically with their interests in mind. People can take gaming far too seriously. If Nintendo proved anything with the Wii, it was that their are all kinds of people who play games and their is a huge untapped market out there. Perhaps the Switch can… Read more »
Camilo Fernández
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Camilo Fernández

Aaah, Jim, your Nintendo episodes are always a joy to watch.
Thank god for you and your Copyright Deadlock.

🌊Parasol Dimensions ☔
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🌊Parasol Dimensions ☔
Hopefully the other companies they have partnerships with will quickly release info on whatever games they might be making for the NS. In the trailer, we see Nintendo games, Skyrim, and NBA. So.. ports of games that will be ported to everything everyone has right now (Skyrim being one that’s 5 years old already and may quite possibly feature Bethesda’s often buggy console porting) and Nintendo games will be on it as far as we know for sure so far. As far as porting goes.. unity, autodesk, CriWare, havok, and unreal engine 4 are confirming support for the console. So… Read more »
FlannelKoSasquatchWald⁴ Ditto
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FlannelKoSasquatchWald⁴ Ditto

Also which Jimqusisition is the Corey Feldman suppository from?

MJC
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MJC

This one, as far as I recall.

FlannelKoSasquatchWald⁴ Ditto
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FlannelKoSasquatchWald⁴ Ditto

Aww, no Boglin dancing and lip syncing, also at 11.40, was that a Zombie Banana in Pajamas?

As for the Switch, I’ll admit I was impressed by the trailer, but do want somethings clarified like the price, battery life, how big the systems internal storage is and the space it’s game carriages, how left handed friendly is the system and mod support.

SilentPony
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SilentPony

God, you know what a good show was? ExoSquad. You ever watch that one Jim? I still got my Alec DeLeon and his suit. Good show. Sucked it ended on a cliffhanger.

Now that’s a show that needs a kickstarter to come back!

Anton
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Anton

Dunno about the show, but those mech designs blew my mind when I was a kid. A brilliant ploy as far as toy sales are concerned.

SilentPony
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SilentPony

The show is a lot like Gundam Wing, in that its obvious aimed at young teen boys, but if you go back and watch it there are some real adult concepts like racism, political tension, international accords and shit that really went over your 13 year old head.
Its a pleasant surprise.

Bruce Baugh
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Bruce Baugh

Jim, all commentary is improved by the presence of Rod Hull and his talking emu. Have you considered incorporating some into the Podquisition? Maybe Gavin could take the part of the emu.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

Would he want Jim’s hand up his bottom, though? I’m sure a lot of us would, including Laura, but Gavin?

Bruce Baugh
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Bruce Baugh

Well, since they’re on separate continents, it would all be acting anyway. Also, it’s not like the emu ever seemed thrilled to have Rod Hull’s hand up there.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

I’m sure we could Kickstart an “arms across the ocean” video. It’d only be the cost of a return flight and seedy motel….

Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh
100% behind the voice actors. I actually can’t believe the the simple Health & Safety things that have been rejected. It is so easy to mess up your voice and long recording sessions with little rest is one of the easiest ways to do it. (I know there is more it than that, but I wanted to call this out in particular.) As for the Switch, I’m interested in it, it seems accessible, versatile and I might get to play Pokemon on the big screen. One big thing I’d like to know is the graphical APIs it’ll be using. If… Read more »
Aaron Cole
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Aaron Cole
I support voice actors getting paid properly but royalties are not something that should be on the table. Most people tend to think of the big performers getting the royalties, while forgetting that there are tons of other voice actors performing ancillary characters, some of whom only record their lines in a couple hours. Are they also entitled to royalties? And while they’ve been singling out multi-million dollar titles, if royalties in games happen then it will inevitably lead to royalties in ALL games – something that could seriously affect smaller companies, especially if game voice acting becomes more like… Read more »
Benj
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Benj

That’s two slippery slope arguments at once. Kudos on that.

Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh
As I understand the deal & please someone correct me if I’m wrong, the royalties would only apply to games that made over a certain amount of money (1 million, I think) & too voice actors who had a certain amount of lines. I don’t really see an issue with this. It means that VA’s of protagonists of large sucessful games get some additional income. Considering how fragile a person’s voice can be & how even the most popular games aren’t like T.V. shows & films that will sell for years, it doesn’t seem to be a huge ask to… Read more »
Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

One Million is practically nothing when the budget for a AAA game can easily bee in the multi million dollar range*. At that level they would be asking royalties for games that hadn’t even broken even.

*Which in itself is a whole other problem.

Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh

yeah I was wrong, it’s a bonus payout every 2 million subscribers, downloads, or purchases, up to 8 million hits, so a total of 4 bonus payouts.

Aaron Cole
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Aaron Cole
Correct, although my concern is that it suggests that voice actors are not equal and that at face value it suggests that only the voice actors who are in those successful games are deserving of royalties. If we are going to make the case for royalties it only makes sense to open it up to everyone. The problem is that this raises a ton of other questions of who is entitled to royalties, and how much. It’s not so much a slippery slope as the other user unhelpfully pointed out but a concern over just how the industry would have… Read more »
Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh
while people have been calling what the VA’s are asking for royalties, (even me) they aren’t really. They are a set bonus payout every 2 million hits up to 8 million. Royalties are a percentage of each sale, forever. These bonus payouts are more like an annual bonus that an employee might receive than a royalty payment. Not saying it’s perfect, if I were a VA I’d prefer an increase in my hourly rate cos it would be guaranteed income, whereas a bonus wouldn’t be, but that being said, Executives get bonuses like this for doing basically nothing and it’s… Read more »
Aaron Cole
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Aaron Cole

Bonuses in that situation would be more understandable, so I would actually agree with that. Actually royalties have been called for in the past however, so maybe there is some feedback from that getting mixed into it. I still keep hearing people mentioning Guy Cihi in this debate in other locations so that might be the cause.

Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh

yeah, I’m not sure how the royalty thing got around. Maybe they asked for it at the beginning of the talks & then decided to switch to bonus. Steve Blum details the 4 major points on a site called gameactorsforall.

Nighter3D
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Nighter3D
actually there is some Info on the hardware/API if interested. Nvidia is responsible for most of the tech Powering the Switch. using their experience with the Nvidia SHIELD gaming tablet to push the switch up with a custom Tegra Processor and using a GPU that is probably based on the tech used in creating the current Pascal architectures. They have stated that they have been working on a custom API and revamping various libraries (like PhysX) to get better performance. This all suggest to there being some carefully optimized low-level APIs that will indeed be akin to Vulkan. I should… Read more »
Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh
It was the Nvidia info that got me wondering about Vulkan so thanks for the additional comments. While I get that custom Low-Level APIs have been used in consoles for a while, I’ve gotten particularly interested in Vulkan since I used the Vulkan version of Doom on an older PC of a friend of mine. Spec wise her laptop shouldn’t be able to run Doom 2016 but it ran great on the Vulkan APIs. The added benefit of the Vulkan APIs is that it supported out of the box by a lot of game engines so it might make Nintendo… Read more »
Nighter3D
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Nighter3D
Altough vulkan is great it still kind of falls short compared to the APIs used by consoles. They are still far better as they are 100% dedicated to one hardware configuration. The use of Vulkan would make porting easier, but would be detrimental to performance considering the specialised features it can’t use. also altough Vulkan works wonders for PC it is still juvenile in regards of ARM based systems which the Switch will fall under. As for engines we are seeing a repeat of every generation. Console builders will have contacted engine creators way in advance of the release and… Read more »
diamond
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diamond

I heard the royalties request(which kind of silly) was the only thing rejected.

Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh

No, lots of other aspects where rejected by publishers. Health & Safety requests like shorter recording hours & student coordinators for any mocap stunts, a pay raise and the ability to know what game a VA will be working on, where all rejected.

Aaron Cole
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Aaron Cole

Which is stupid because it should have been the other way around. I get that you need to negotiate but the rest of those issues are common sense requests

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs
Chalk one up for Health and Safety, too – especially considering how studios are veering towards having their voice actors also handle mocap. It’s one thing if you’re capturing people sitting around in a Jeep (see Uncharted 4), but Splinter Cell: Blacklist had Eric Johnson take up combat classes to be sure Fisher’s Krav Maga moves would be up to par. Drake’s Indiana Jones-worthy chop-socky is one thing, having to pull off detailed moves designed to incapacitate or kill is another. Even if you never leave the soundbooth, there’s hazards to consider. Scott McNeil fainted in a soundbooth once, because… Read more »
Frank
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Frank

Looks like they are planning the total invasion of every none video game related recreational activity.
I can see football audiences completely ignoring the match, because everybody has brought their Switch with them and is playing FIFA.

No more need to communicate with possibly annoying strangers at partys, when everybody is just staring at their Switch monitor and ocassionaly taking sips from their glasses.

MJC
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MJC

And that’s different from everyone just staring at their smartphone?

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Touché.

Gurphardt
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Why would anyone shell out money for a sporting even and not watch any of it?

Anton
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Anton
Barring a massive fuckup on some level, the Switch will be the first Ninty product I’ve bought in a decade. This is almost exactly what I want from Nintendo right now. That being said, I already see the possibility for aforementioned fuckup – the dock. According to sources, including Laura herself, the dock gives the Switch extra power that allows the system to run 1080P on the big screen (as opposed to 720P on the portable screen). Now, this sounds great in concept, but from a tech standpoint this is immediately problematic. There are two basic possibilities for how the… Read more »
Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

That’s… A lot of techincal knowledge there, Anton. Thanks for making me feel less of a man who is not more smarter than the avarage person.

Anton
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Anton

That’s ok, this is all speculation I pulled out of my ass anyway.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

You have a very technical ass.

Anton
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Anton

Well, it didn’t take four years of engineering classes for nothing.

Wolfie
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Wolfie

So quantum steampunk magic?

Anton
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Anton

And the power of the cloud.

sebastian gregory
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sebastian gregory

I think your second example is the more likley of the two.
What may happen is devs can use eather gpu or both.
Another thought is the dock overclocks the taplets gpu.

Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

Overclocking would be ill advised, that will just eat through the hardware that much faster. I’d guess if it has anything to do with clocking it would be that they under clock the GPU when it isn’t in the cradle to conserve battery life.

Anton
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Anton

Still, a big underclocked chip would probably be the best solution.

Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

It would probably be the least hassle and make the most sense. Tho it still might be more practical to have multiple separate GPUs. Would all really boil down to how they handled the thermal issues. It just might not have been feasible to have a more powerful GPU in the tablet without running into thermal problems. Or maybe the bulk of the cradle is some active cooling that keeps the GPU in the tablet from overheating when it’s in place. Time will tell 🙂

NohatCoder
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NohatCoder

The great thing about aluminium backsides is that they double as heat sinks. With the dock presumably ensuring good air flow it would conceivably be enough.

Of course a 720p -> 1080p switch only requires around double the graphics processing power, and double what you can run on a battery still isn’t a whole lot compared to a high-end GPU.

Can't Cook Won't Win
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Can't Cook Won't Win

There’s another possibility. Perhaps the APU in the switch is downclocked and passively cooled while portable and maybe the dock provides some sort of improved cooling.

eBusiness
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eBusiness

I’m pretty sure that they will just change the clock of the one GPU that the system contains. Multiple GPUs is both an expensive and complicated choice.

Anton
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Anton

Possibly. This is all rumor anyway.

Nighter3D
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Nighter3D

well. All that is really known is that Nvidia is the one responsible for the CPU+GPU. they are using a custom designed Tegra processor which contains a GPU which they claim is “using the same architecture as the top performing geforce” which is likely Pascal.

That sounds to me like nvidia is cramming the entire graphics processing into the Switch tablet itself. Probably using downclocking and such to reduce the consumption when mobile. Nvidia has gotten pretty good at such things

Nighter3D
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Nighter3D

Update:

Nintendo has stated the dock only serves for charging and passing through. all the proccessing and such are within the Handheld itself. so no External GPU or something.

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

Will it not have a portable charger?

Nighter3D
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Nighter3D

Videos show a external cable inserted where the dock would connect while being held by some of the unrealisticly happy actors, this heavilly suggests that it will be possible to substitute the dock with a cable for charging purposes. Why else would there be a cable??? Can’t be audio as that is in the top of the device.

Anton
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Anton

Well, I just made a useless wall of text then XD

Chaltab
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Chaltab

Well no, people can’t read.

Nintendo’s statement said that the *main* function of the Dock is to connect things to the TV and provide power and charge. They didn’t say one way or the other whether there’s any graphics hardware in the Dock.

Nighter3D
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Nighter3D

Well i apoligize for having been misled by marketing BS. They say Main heavilly implying that majority of all functionality is within the switch itself and by saying it only handles the TV output they suggest it at most has a capture card for outputting purposes. Combined with how Pascal and Tegra operate this all come down to a very likely no.

Now please refrain from insulting people by stating “people can’t read”. Blame the marketing department for never giving a straight answer.

Chaltab
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Chaltab

I’m just saying, Nintendo hasn’t said anything about the internal specifications, and Nvidia hasn’t said that much more, at least in terms of specifics. Reporting that the dock *only* serves for charging and TV connection is not what Nintendo said, so anyone who says that’s definitely the case is not reporting accurate information. We just don’t know yet.

I doubt the dock has a GPU myself, I wouldn’t be surprised if it allows the system to run at a higher spec than handheld mode, like most laptops do when plugged in.

iorek byrnison
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iorek byrnison

It wouldn’t need a capture card – just an HDMI output

that said, yes – the dock overclocks the GPU and feeds it more power, that’s all

iorek byrnison
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iorek byrnison

It’s simpler than that.

In the dock, the switch runs the processor at a higher clock speed vs. in portable mode, allowing for better performance. This is limited to the dock because it nly really matters for 1080, and because it uses up more power.

theoretically, you could plug it into a power adapter and run it at 1080 downsampled to 720 – but that isn’t gonna be a thing because why would it be.

it’s just about power draw

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Sperium3000
And I’m with you Jim, despite everything, I liked the Wii U It had good games (Fuck you suck my dick), and was legit enjoyable to play with, and surprisingly convenient when it came to just picking up and play (After that whole deal with patching it up at launch was dealt with and the nintendo ID was properly standardized). Too bad Nintendo stopped producing here in Brazil, which made the already salty prices of their products skyrocket as they are now only obtained through imports. It was to the point where I had to sadly sell off my Wii… Read more »
Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

Anybody that’s says the WiiU didn’t have good games clearly didn’t play Splatoon, Bayonetta 2, and Hyrule Warriors.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Curiously, I had all of those. Plus Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze. I’m dying on that hill, Tropical Freeze was a masterpiece of its genre.

Visulth
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Visulth

Do you guys know what game Jim was playing when he said he liked the WiiU? Looked like some zombie game. Was it ZombiU?

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Yes, and ignore the ports. The game is better for the gimmicks provided by the tablet.

Though if you don’t have a WiiU, might as well buy the other versions.

Visulth
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Visulth

Great, thanks. I actually already own it on the WiiU but got bored. Going to give it another shot.

Ana Decker
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Ana Decker

I’ll throw in Xenoblade Chronicles X and Wonderful 101
The WiiU didn’t have a massive library but I got it cheap enough to make it still worth it. Much more than my Vita…

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

The only thing about the Switch that I’m worried about was the fact that when I first saw it, I was immeadatily reminded of the Nvida Sheild. A similar device that went nowhere.

Nintendo might pull it off on the basis that they have brand clout with both the mass market and hardcore gamers. Plus I suspect that the WiiU will take its place among systems like the Dreamcast as things we’ll remember fondly.

MJC
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MJC

The Shield isn’t a similar device at all though. The Shield was more like a Steam Link that could run Andriod if you were out of range of your PC.

In fact, the Shield is more like the Wii U than the Switch.

Rodrigues
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Rodrigues

The chains of love thing is genious! I laugh my ass off everytime.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

I say I await Switch with cautious optimism. It kinda looks like a piece of tech I’d really like, owning a tablet but being frustrated with the touch controls in games.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

I wonder what’s the situation with the Persona 5 western release. They announced the English cast and very soon after that the VAs went on strike. Hm…

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Also, Skyrim is actually a 5 year old game, instead of 3 year old. Not much an egregious mistake to make, but it does emphasize your point about Nintendo getting us hype about it being on the Switch even more. “Look, our machine is finally powerful enough to run this game from 2011!”

sebastian gregory
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sebastian gregory

That tru but skyrim still has an active player base on pc and is getting remastered.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

I’m aware.

Jonathan Roth
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Jonathan Roth

The remaster also appears to be using the Fallout 4 version of the Creation Kit/Engine, so closer to 18-month-old tech by the time it hits.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

The best thing of all: Bethesda hasn’t confirmed that there will be Skyrim in the Nintendo Switch.

RifleAvenger Sashiro
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RifleAvenger Sashiro

If Nintendo used Skyrim footage without Bethesda’s permission, that’d be hilarious and sad given Nintendo’s dedication to content ID.

Chaltab
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Chaltab

No, Bethesda collaborated with them for the footage. Bethedsa is clearly working on something for Switch, it’s just not confirmed if that something is Skyrim.

MJC
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MJC

And the cherry on all that is that it’s not actually confirmed to have Skyrim in its game library yet

NeptuniasBeard
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NeptuniasBeard

The VAs that went on strike are part of a union, this doesn’t effect Persona 5 or most localized Japanese games in general in any way, because they almost never get union VAs

Kiel Meakin
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Kiel Meakin

The thing I love about you most Jim is if you take everything you say about workers or consumer rights in relations to the games industry and apply it to western society in general, the critiques are just perfect.
Fuck the corporations and thank Jim for Jim!

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