The Jimquisition: A Nintendo Switch ‘Room Temperature’ Take

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Let’s jump aboard the Nintendo Switch content train and hump it. Hump it until our genitals bleed!

Seriously though, we’re talking about Nintendo’s marketing this week, and the importance of visual communication when selling a product.

Also, #PerformanceMatters n’ stuff!

Zippydsmlee
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If it had DS/3DS support out of box I would have bought it. But nope I’m not going to even bother, the more tight fisted anti consumer they get the more I become the worst pirate ever.. emulators are love.

Whats really sad MS/Xbone is looking better by the day…blah

SpearmintTea
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SpearmintTea

Backwards compat is cool and all, but the DS has been out for over 12 years. The 3DS has been out for 6 years. They had great libraries and I enjoyed them a lot. Anyone who missed out on them can pick up a 2DS and a handful of great games for $100.

I love the old systems but I’m ready for something new. I’d rather it not be held by by having to support older architecture or having to have a slot compatible with older media.

Zippydsmlee
Guest

Ya but BWC at most is only 5-20% of the cost of unit price, I don’t think 10-70 bucks is enough damage on hardware price to warrant its removal… I know for the manufacture its hell but they made the game the industry plays, own up to it and do more for the consumer or get out of hardware….

SpearmintTea
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SpearmintTea
“BWC at most is only 5-20% of the cost of unit price,” Source? Besides it costs more than just added price. BWC for DS and 3DS could do one or both of the following: 1.) Make the device larger when it is already pushing the limits of what constitutes “portable” as is. 2.) Take up space that could have otherwise been used to extend battery life. Both are compromises that I’d be unwilling to make just to get support for old games. How good could the support even be? The DS systems have two screens and the Switch has 1.… Read more »
Zippydsmlee
Guest
The EE chip for PS2 BWC on the launch PS3’s was 30-40$ at the time, the launch PS3’s were 700$. The Xbone is more compatible with the 360 than the PS2 to PS3 so it needs less BWC hardware to work the hardware that could have been used would help bridge the gap between 360 and Xbone architecture and have the 360 DRM in a single chip to run 360 stuff making it easier for software to do the rest of the work, the combination could easily do 1080 for 360 stuff but they never think things through they don’t… Read more »
Sam Mell
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Sam Mell

Man, I forgot that 80s cartoons were a thing that happened. What’s the name of that space Odysseus one?

Zippydsmlee
Guest

Skeleton Warriors 1993-1994

Sam Mell
Guest
Sam Mell

No not that one, the other one. The one where there’s an older blue-skinned man looking down at a young woman, also with blue skin. Also for like a split second there’s an image showing a tiny red robot holding a dish that reflects an energy bolt or something? I remember the show, it was a sci-fi version of The Odyssey.

saintalex
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saintalex

Ulysses 31. On an additional note, according to the theme tune, no one else can do the things he does.

Sam Mell
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Sam Mell

That was the one, yes! Thank you very much. According to the wiki, he also achieved solar peace. Not just regular peace. Solar peace.

saintalex
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saintalex

The most futuristic and therefore best kind of peace.

Sam Mell
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Sam Mell

We wouldn’t have it any other way.

Trofimos Psyxiatreiou
Guest

The Nintendo Switch will fail. It is obvious. After this, Nintendo will go the road of SEGA, third party.

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

How is it obvious? A single trailer for the system pops up and bam, it’s doomed?

I’m surprised by the lack of kids in the reveal trailer, but can’t otherwise make prognoses. The Wii U had a tepid reception, yes, but a single system’s lackluster sales can’t be seen as a paradigm-setter.

Trofimos Psyxiatreiou
Guest

Trust me, it will. It is hopeless. Excuse me but i have disussed this in length in other places and i won’t bother repeating all the reasons here. You can hope for its success if you want, but if you really examine hardware, possible pricing, software availability, the market, etc, this is dead as soon as it appears. Initially the Nintendo faithful will buy it in droves, and after that sales will fall off a cliff, like with the Wii U.

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

I popped by your profile and skimmed your blog, but missed your prior justifications. I also, unfortunately, can’t speak or read Greek.

I don’t know – I wouldn’t say I have particular hopes for the system; I just prefer for hyped-up pieces of hardware to actually be in the wild, before I make any judgments.

There’s a difference between watching actors pretending to have fun with a design mockup and some edited Alpha game footage and seeing your own friends, acquaintances and family members tackle the same hardware head-on.

Justin Graham
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Justin Graham

For what it’s worth, the hardware in the trailer was real in most shots. The game footage was inserted in post-production, but that’s not exactly a shocker, either.

Also, Trofimos’s words hold ho water so long as he refuses to elaborate on any of his supposed arguments.

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

Ayep. Like I said, I’m just going to wait for the hardware to actually be out in the wild before making anything close to sweeping generalizations concerning its chances on the market.

Every doodad and gizmo has its own market – it’s the size of that market that’s problematic, on occasion. Considering we’re talking about Nintendo, I’m not too worried.

Either the fans buy or rent a Switch, or they skip out on Zelda, Mario and other future Pokémon developments.

Nada Namae
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Nada Namae

“Excuse me but i have disussed this in length in other places and i won’t bother repeating all the reasons here.”
Then stick to those other places instead of wasting everyone’s time with hyperbolic platitudes. Seriously, if you are too lazy to elaborate on your tea leaf readings, go the extra mile and just shut up.

Trofimos Psyxiatreiou
Guest

I never said you have to accept my views kid. What i said will happen whether you agree or not, it is irrelevant. Kids like you said the Wii U would succeed as well, while guys like me warned it would flop. See how that turned out. You can keep dreaming about your Wii U 2.0 though.

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs
Listen – the issue isn’t whether or not the Switch will sell or bomb, the issue is that you claimed it’ll bomb, and then offered no arguments. It’s as if I said that Einstein’s Theory of Relativity is dead in the water and just sat on that statement, refusing to provide proof because I’d have “already written an essay about it someplace else”. If that’s the case, I should provide that essay, shore up my statement with actual proof. Telling others that a console that’s not even out is dead in the water – and to “deal with it” –… Read more »
Vivi2372
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Vivi2372

Says it’s inevitable failure is obvious.

Can’t be bothered to explain it.

Sure. Whatever you say buddy.

Trofimos Psyxiatreiou
Guest

I never asked you to believe me dude. Does it says anywhere that my opinion is mandatory for the rest of you? No? Then what is your problem?

And yes, this POS console is dead in the water, it is over, finished, Wii U 2.0. Deal with it.

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs
1. Hardware They’re working off of a custom TEGRA chip, and building the Switch off of Nvidia’s own semi-mobile platform, the Shield. That implies an underpowered status by default, something which most Nintendo fans won’t mind. They’ve had their hardcore supporters since the Wii – people who clearly don’t mind that their console can’t hold water when compared to Microsoft’s or Sony’s offerings. The game media seems to be based on light and thin cartridges, ostensibly read-only Flash memory. That means fast access times and more than enough storage space for modern games, seeing as the priciest SD card available… Read more »
Nada Namae
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Nada Namae

Very fitting profile picture, mr. industry analyst.

Trofimos Psyxiatreiou
Guest

Better than yours.

Vaughan MacDonald
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Vaughan MacDonald

Yeah, but we do know the price, Jim. In Australia at least. Moments after it’s announcement, EB Games opened up pre orders where the console was listed at a steep $999. The pro controller is $120, and the games are $120 each too. That’s $20 more than games typically cost here in Australia, by the way.

Vaughan MacDonald
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Vaughan MacDonald
ATBro
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ATBro

Wow. That’s $760 and $91 here. I knew that you guys got raked over the coals for this hobby, but that’s fucking koo-koo. That’s really expensive.

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

Here’s hoping they come to their senses; there’s budget PC builds available at that price point.

Crissa
Guest

Why wouldn’t there be a budget PC for the price of a console?

Hasn’t that been true for a decade?

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

That’s not what I’m saying, I’m saying that I’m worried the Switch might be excessively priced. Pair that with the way Nintendo’s projections for the Switch are fairly low in terms of sales, and I’m afraid of Ninty fumbling the ball in terms of the system’s price point.

Vaughan MacDonald
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Vaughan MacDonald

Yeah, well if you’ve got any sense in this country you import all your games from the UK because it’s like $40 cheaper.

Justin Graham
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Justin Graham

You understand what a placeholder price is, right?

No one knows what the price will be, outside of Nintendo. When a price is announced, website listings will be updated so that they correspond with reality.

Chris
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Chris

Um… I looked it up earlier today and it said “place holder price” so I dunno why you couldn’t see that when you checked it out.

PrincessKairi
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PrincessKairi

That’s a placeholder price ya numpty

Vaughan MacDonald
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Vaughan MacDonald

It’s still always close to the final price. To say nothing of the fact the Wii U wasn’t even $400 when it first launched.