Dishonored 2 Review – Dishonorable Discharge

You’re my one Dunwall.

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Developer: Arkane Studios
Publisher: Bethesda
Format: PC, PS4 (reviewed), Xbox One
Released: November 11, 2016
Copy provided by publisher

The original Dishonored remains one of my favorite games of the last generation, a veritable “game of the year” from 2012. Versatile gameplay and excellent worldbuilding made for a fascinating revenge tale, unfolding in some of the best environments committed to code.

Dishonored 2 aims to recapture what made Dishonored so brilliant for its time, and it does so by retreading the exact same ground and doing everything the original did in a slightly less interesting way.

The problem with this sequel is revealed almost as soon as it starts, sprinting headlong through an introductory sequence to hurriedly set up yet another revenge plot with barely any pacing.

Empress Emily Kaldwin is briefly introduced as a ruler with a stereotypical disinterest in ruling before she’s suddenly – and I mean suddenly – deposed by a secret aunt and that’s the end of that.

Everybody is pretty much fine with a former empress’ sister being next in line to throne – without proof – and either Emily or her father Corvo Attano are instantly marked as a fugitive and must secretly eliminate those who plotted against them, just like Corvo did fifteen years prior. Sort of like that Vacation not-remake with Ed Helms.

While there are narrative foundations used to justify Delilah Copperspoon’s miraculous usurpation of the throne – a touch of black magic, a series of deaths intended to make Emily look like a murderer – they’re weak justifications used as flimsy handwaves.

Dishonored 2 simply wants to hurtle toward the formula that served its forebear so well. No time to spare for characterization, history, or a substantial setup. Let’s get straight to avengin’ stuff!

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The consequent story is about as threadbare, with a series of antagonists introduced and disposed of with little fanfare. While the original Dishonored provided a real rogue’s gallery of nefarious conspirators who ruled over memorable locations, its sequel has a series of flat knockoffs.

Dishonored worked hard to make you hate its coterie of conspirators. In Dishonored 2, the villains’ personalities barely shine through – they’re names to be crossed off a list, and that’s that.

Aside from the narcissistic genius Kirin Jindosh and his transforming clockwork mansion, not a person or place is anywhere near as evocative as those encountered in Corvo’s initial adventure. There is no House of Pleasure, no Lady Boyle’s Last Party, nothing truly inspiring throughout Dishonored 2‘s rote chapters.

Similarly, the methods of disposal are not as varied this time around. While Dishonored often provided several inventive methods of assassination including the bizarrely crueler nonlethal route, the methods of murder are distinctly less inventive this time around. There’s still a nonlethal options, but nothing quite so great as setting up poisonings and the like.

I pity anybody trying to go nonlethal, by the way.

Three of my targets were killed in ways beyond my control. The first one’s nonlethal method glitched, rendering me unable to activate the device intended to trap him. The second one killed herself somehow. I still don’t know how she died, I simply got a message saying I’d killed her and that was that.

I stumbled upon her corpse much later.

The third had a body double but it didn’t matter – both died during the course of my playing through the level normally, rewiring security devices and using Emily’s Doppelganger ability. One was fried by an electric pylon, the other cut down instantly by one of my magic clones. I had no idea they were in the vicinity, they just ran themselves into trouble.

Fortunately I’d stopped caring about the game’s morality system by that point and was just eager to get the damn game finished with.

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Dishonored 2, I must stress, is not a bad game. It’s a decent enough production with all the familiar trappings of its predecessor, but it suffers considerably when directly compared.

Emily and Corvo have access to supernatural abilities, as well as a host of weapons and gadgets that can either stun or kill the many enemies on patrol. It’s all fun to use, and the environments themselves are well crafted, full of secret items, sidequests, and hidden lore that may never be discovered.

The world changes depending on the player’s actions. High chaos play requires lots of upfront lethality – open murder, direct combat, bodies in the streets. This makes characters nastier and the world more prone to infestation by vicious bloodflies that feed on corpses and swarm their victims.

Low chaos is achieved by remaining undetected, stealthing through the streets, knocking opponents unconscious, and finding alternative means of eliminating Delilah’s allies.

As always, there are multiple paths throughout each level, and a huge degree of flexibility in how one approaches a problem.

It’s fun to use crossbows and snipe targets silently, while personal combat is hectic and full of gratuitously gratifying execution maneuvers. Depending on how Emily or Corvo are kitted out, it can be a real treat to just bust a door in with a pistol and blade, laying waste to panicking soldiers. It’s also just as sweet when taking them down unawares and sneaking like a pro.

This is all well and good, but Dishonored 2 is one of those sequels that retain a degree of quality thanks vastly to the groundwork laid out last time. New additions to the game are nothing to write home about, while any fun I had with the title is the exact same fun I could have had replaying Dishonored.

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I honestly wish I hadn’t picked Emily to play through the campaign with. While it makes much more narrative sense for her to take the reins, the deposed empress’ suite of abilities is so much more boring than Corvo’s.

She gets her own (inferior) version of Blink, and some other inherited powers like dark vision, but her unique powers are nowhere near as fun as summoning swarms of rats to eat bad guys. She certainly gets nothing so cool as promised in Dishonored 2‘s deceptive announcement trailer.

Emily can create shadowy figures that mesmerize a number of opponents, chain people together like voodoo dolls so any damage incurred by one affects the others, and create doppelgangers that can either distract or attack their targets. While these powers can be combined to pull off some unique tricks, none of them felt satisfactory to use, too passive to hold my attention.

I’ll admit it’s fun, albeit briefly, to use Emily’s shadowy tendrils to snatch and pull victims for quick kills. Not fun enough to make up for everything else.

It took little time at all for me to stick with the efficient -if crude – ordinary weaponry. It would have been better to opt for the selectable “no powers” mode, if only to avoid the mind-numbing hunt for Runes and Bonecharms.

Every level is absolutely filled with Runes and Bonecharms, the former necessary to upgrade powers and the latter conferring passive bonuses when equipped. As with the original Dishonored, players use a magic steampunk heart to see where these items are on the map. Unlike the original, however, they’re a pain in the arse to reach.

I think maybe half the time I spent with this game was wasted attempting to get them all. Knowing exactly where they are is often less helpful than it is frustrating, as so many of them are found in locations with fiendishly hidden entry points, or secured by solving puzzles so obtuse they sometimes don’t even present themselves as puzzles.

Dishonored could be a drag at times when trying to locate a particularly well hidden Rune, but Dishonored 2 ramps up the aggravation and makes it so much more consistent. Here, they seem to serve primarily as a means of padding out the game’s runtime by a significant margin.

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To say Dishonored 2 is glitchy is to put it mildly.

Aside from the aforementioned assassination target assassinating herself, I’ve had to reload checkpoints multiple times due to being trapped in walls after cutscenes or simply while swimming to a level’s exit. It’s not like the game even looks all that good to make up for it – artistically well realized, but technically lacking.

At least it’s got the best voice acting Bethesda can buy, boasting celebrities such as Rosario Dawson, Vincent D’Onofrio, and Sam Rockwell – all wasted on lifeless and poorly conceived roles.

I take no pleasure in passing a harsh sentence on Dishonored 2, especially with so many other critics seemingly in love with the thing. I state once again for the record that I adored Dishonored, and I wanted this series to continue feeling as fresh and inventive as it did when it began. I still do.

Dishonored 2, however, feels like a tiresome retread – enjoyable enough when it sticks to the old script, but frustrating in its disappointment when it does attempt anything new. With a rushed story, colorless characters, and total misuse of a whole new playable character, the best I can say is that I didn’t hate it.

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I didn’t particularly like it, but I didn’t hate it.

Dishonored deserves more than that.

5/10
Mediocre

Austin Barnes
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Austin Barnes

Its sad to hear this sequel doing so poorly. It’s an unfortunate turn, considering both Watch Dogs 2 and Titanfall 2 were better than their predecessors. Alas!

Leah
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Leah

The sequel’s doing fantastically. It’s just Jim’s review which is negative.

Peter Coffin
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I very rarely disagree with you Jim – but here is the time it has happened. I haven’t beaten it, but this feels like the more full, more realized version of the first game (one that was already quite good on its own). That said I certainly respect what was said here and understand where you’re coming from.

Michael Lane
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Michael Lane

Well that saves me a little cash – I can wait for a Steam sale (and all the required patches)

Фролов Денис
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Фролов Денис

Eh. Emily doesn’t get posession at all, and her powers allow some very inricate combos. I actually enjoyed them more, becouse all of them are fit for stealth run, when Corvo has 2 purely combat spells. Far reach has some unique things going for it as well, so i can’t call it inferior – just different.

And, no memorable locations? Clockwork mansion? Crack in the slab? The good doctor? Karnaka as a city overall? Game is less grimdark than first one, I’ll give it that, but unmemorable?

I’m really confused with this review.

Aidan Long
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Aidan Long

He personally didn’t find the locations very memorable. How is that confusing?

Фролов Денис
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Фролов Денис

Becouse I have hard time understanding how a brothel is more memorable than reconfiguring mansion. At least 3 locations in D2 have distinct gameplay features unique to them – something first Dishonored didn’t do.

And no, I don’t question Jim’s right to have his opinion on the game. I just have really hard time understanding some of his critique.

Roel TheDeer
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Roel TheDeer

But he did mention that the Mansion and its owner were the exception for him.

Фролов Денис
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Фролов Денис

Well, that’s some sloppy reading on my part. Still, point stands 😛

Aidan Long
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Aidan Long

Well, the brothel might just have a more interesting atmosphere about it, something about the level design hinted at an interesting history, or the look of it was unique. I’m not sure, he doesn’t say exactly what it is that makes the locations not as memorable, but he actually mentions that the reconfiguring mansion was interesting.

lordoffantasy
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lordoffantasy

a reviewr has to balance personal opinion and factual information. he was not wowed by the clockwork mansion, fair. but that does not make it ;unitnersting’ just that it just did not strike the right cord with him.

Aidan Long
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Aidan Long

In his opinion, yes. There is no ‘objective’ measure of uninteresting.

Nemrex
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Nemrex

I’ll still pick this one up regardless, but now only on a half-off deal.

Tylericous
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Tylericous

It has had a lot of good reviews though, Jim is a bit of an outlier, so maybe you will still like it.

Nemrex
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Nemrex

I most likely will. This just sets it on my lower priorities list. Civ VI and Pokémon Sun are still on my high list.

Leah
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Leah

Jim’s main criticism of Dishonoured 2 was that he thought it was retreading old ground, but aren’t Civilisation and Pokemon some of the worst culprits of retreading old ground?

Henriette Gaston
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Henriette Gaston

Do you work at Bethesda, at Arkane or for a Dishonored fansite?

Leah
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Leah

No. I just like the game and wanted to engage in discussion about it with people.

Henriette Gaston
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Henriette Gaston

Ah, ok. Sometimes we defend things we like a certain way and it can make us appear disingenuous.

Dallium
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Dallium

I don’t… Your argument makes no sense. Any viewpoint that thinks Civ (I can’t speak for Poke’mon, haven’t played one since Silver, and not much of that) retreads too much should be unable to perceive any differences between Dishonored 1 and 2. Or doesn’t understand what “retreading old ground” means.

Leah
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Leah

Each Civ is pretty much the exact same formula with the same countries and most of the same technologies, buildings, units, countries, tools, rules, mechanics, and features. Compared to the Civ and Pokemon series’, the variation between Dishonoured and its sequel is enormous.

Fallen Prime
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Fallen Prime

Fuck that shit, I’m getting Moon. MAJESTIC BONEBAT.

Tylericous
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Tylericous

Can’t disagree with Pokemon!

Sadly I lost my 3ds a few weeks ago so I can’t play it yet. Thankfully it was an original model, so now I have an excuse to upgrade to the New 3ds.

ckmondavi
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ckmondavi

To me this years major disappointment, but then I’ve yet to play it further than level one seeing how the PC port is unplayable for most! I shouldn’t need a gtx 1070 or 1080 just to play the game without it dipping to 20 fps in some areas at 1080p. And my machine is considered beefy with a 4th gen icore 7 and amd fury card. Not the newest PC hardware but well with in the means to play most games on High / ultra settings at 2560 by 1080 (ultrawide monitor user)!

Leah
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Leah

Here’s a tip. After loading up the game, open task manager, and go to processes. Right click dishonored2.exe and change its priority to high. For some reason, the game automatically sets itself to a low priority. Changing it to high gave me an extra 30fps.

ckmondavi
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ckmondavi

I’ll give it a try!

Martijn Fiering
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Martijn Fiering

Holy shit I disagree with Jim Sterling’s opinion. Hand me my pitchfork. It’s time for a good ol’ fashioned RIOT!

But it uses Denuvo, so I’m not buying the damn thing anyway until it costs about a penny. Not supporting that trash.

Ben Mitchell
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Ben Mitchell

Does dunovo still cause issues for SSD’s?

diamond
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diamond

Apparently so.

Martijn Fiering
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Martijn Fiering

I’m not going to confirm or deny that. All I can say is that I believe that particular claim to be false. I resent Denuvo because it presents a risk of unplayable games in the future, and it takes away several consumer rights. All for the purpose of protecting a game from a problem that doesn’t exist.

diamond
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diamond

Agreed, Denuvo is just putting people off from wanting to buy games on PC.

neil_mccauley
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neil_mccauley

There are zero problems for me with Arkham Knight or MGS5. Both installed on a Samsung SSD.

Leah
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Leah

I think it’s less about the technical issue and more the ethical issue. Denuvo is very intrusive DRM.

Lambadelta
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Lambadelta

Even if it doesn’t the money could be spend on better optimization or other stuff instead.

diamond
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diamond

Yup, I will never buy any game on PC that has Denuvo, i’ll take lesser graphics and performance on a console over feeling like i’m being treated as a criminal.

Mikkel Ulriksen
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Mikkel Ulriksen

i havent played this one yet, but i did like the first dishonored, though i did find the story in the first one to be a bit lackluster, but the enviroments were nice and the gameplay solid, it was an is, a solid 7/10 on my personal score.
ps. i do find them bringing corvo back is sort of pandering to the fans. i would have prefere it if the just focus on emily.

J. Sparrow
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J. Sparrow

Apparently the PC port is garbage with punishing DRM. This is how you encourage piracy.

diamond
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diamond

Or it encourages people to play on console instead.

Flamma Man
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Flamma Man
The third had a body double but it didn’t matter – both died during the course of my playing through the level normally, rewiring security devices and using Emily’s Doppelganger ability. One was fried by an electric pylon, the other cut down instantly by one of my magic clones. I had no idea they were in the vicinity, they just ran themselves into trouble. Wha? If you were intending to play a non-lethal run, why on Earth would you rewire an electric pylon instead of just removing the whale oil fueling it and turning it off? Also, the Dopperlganger only… Read more »
lordoffantasy
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lordoffantasy

that is honestly the feeling i got with his entire review. ‘oh you, not the game’. glitches aside of course.

i think he dropped the ball pretty heavily with this one.

qorl123
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qorl123

Why does it have be either fully non-lethal or completely lethal? Cut down mooks, leave bosses alive.

Leah
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Leah

I think Flamma Man’s point is that if you take lethal steps in Dishonored 2, you should not be surprised if your target falls victim to them.

qorl123
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qorl123

But if you employ some lethal steps against some characters, you have a right to be surprised if someone completely different wanders into those lethal implements randomly. I think Jim’s point was that he completed some missions by accident through little input of his own.

Leah
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Leah

In my opinion, the fact that your target can completely wander into one of your traps is a testament to the freedom of the game. It’s unrestricted, and that means that every playthrough is different.

Chad
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Chad

Never thought I’d see the day that Watch Dogs 2 gets a higher review score than Dishonored 2.

2016, what a year. Guess I know what game I’m getting.

Chad
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Chad

I forgot to add, I wonder why they didn’t just let you play as both Emily and Corvo kinda like how you play as both Rhys and Fiona in Tales From The Borderlands.

Aidan Long
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Aidan Long

I would actually have liked to see that. Maybe they were worried that players would have a bit of hard time switching between the two different ability sets? I know that I might have trouble with that. It’s kind of like trying to get used to two different pairs of shoes.

Gurphardt
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My understanding is that you can pick one or the other for any given playthrough. I imagine it would have taken considerably more resources designing a campaign where you played them both in tandem.

Chad
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Chad

Yeah I guess it would be very annoying having to upgrade both characters skills.

Aidan Long
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Aidan Long

Pity you didn’t enjoy it, I’m still looking forward to it though. It’ll be interesting to compare notes when I finish my own play through.

Charlie Koszulinski
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Charlie Koszulinski

Yeah, I can’t remember a single name, let alone face, of the bad guys from the first game. As far as the lore goes, I couldn’t bring myself to read pages upon pages almost every time you find a book. It takes a lot of the fun out, so I just didn’t do it. That’s just me, though.

So, judging from this review, all I need to worry about is glitches. As long as the gameplay is still fun, I’ll still pick it up.

Mark Patten
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Mark Patten

Guess I’ll be picking up Watchdogs 2 for Christmas then…

lordoffantasy
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lordoffantasy

seirously dude, don’t base it on just one review. there aer a lot of positive reviews for it, even those outside of things like ign.

personaly i feel he dropped the ball with this review as a whole. but that is just me.

zarathustra2k1
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zarathustra2k1

“i think he dropped the ball pretty heavily with this one.”
“personaly i feel he dropped the ball with this review as a whole. but that is just me.”

Running short of metaphors? How about we stick with football: “shot wide of the goal” help?

itsKrisJB
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itsKrisJB

I’m currently playing through it and I agree I’m not digging it as much as the first (doing a Corvo non-lethal run, planning on doing a high-chaos second run). The narrative is definitely lacking and yes, the RUNES. I’ve resorted to just looking up a walkthrough to get them because it just isn’t any damned fun looking for them on my own.

oshigoroshi
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oshigoroshi

excerpt from videogamers perfect score rating from metacritic:

“Dishonored 2 takes everything you loved about Dishonored and improves upon it without becoming bloated.”

hmm, i dont get that from your review Jim.

Jim Sterling
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Reviews are not objective facts.

Anton
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Anton

….that’s not what a REAL reviewer would say.

(Kidding, don’t kill me)

zarathustra2k1
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zarathustra2k1

“[…]metacritic”
/shrug…

David Gordon
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David Gordon

its almost like reviews reflect someones opinion

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

This was a surprise. But I’m cool, I wasn’t that fond of the first one anyway. Too bad for the fans, though, unless they like it anyway, which is cool too.

Roel TheDeer
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Roel TheDeer

The worst thing with the first was the morality system. I hated the idea that I can’t just go about my sneaking game any way I want, or I won’t get the “proper” ending. The fact that they brought it into the sequel as well just killed this game for me outright.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Yeah… Morality systems just kind of lost their appeal to me.

Roel TheDeer
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Roel TheDeer
I like the concept, I hate the implementation. The Bioware moral meter bullshit just stuck so deep into the games it is annoying beyond belief. All you need to do, to have a good morality system, is to keep it narrative only. You murdered somebody? A future quest chain is altered, because their relatives won’t help you. You spared some dude? Maybe he will come to help you in a tough moment. Or maybe he will consider you a softie and attempt a backstab at the worst time. That would be the way to do it. Not the stupid “Do… Read more »
diamond
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diamond

I hated that in the original Dishonored as well(didn’t mind it in Infamous, Mass Effect or Fallout though) they also made it so that all the really-cool powers are the lethal ones, which means your gameplay will be very boring if you’re trying to get the good ending.

diamond
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diamond

I didn’t like it either, I was a little baffled when that game ended up on so many “best of 2012” lists.

Michael_C
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Michael_C

It’s been very interesting to see Jim give favorable reviews to a streak of games with uncertain prospects, and now here, at what I assumed was a sure thing, the bill comes due (as uh, Mordo in Doctor Strange said, I guess).

Not that Jim is reviewing according to any kind of cosmic debt, it’s just been a surprising month or two.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

I’m surprise that hasn’t become as much of a meme as “I’ve come to bargain”.

Michael_C
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Michael_C

I didn’t even consciously go for the reference! It just came to mind as the appropriate phrase, so it might have some staying power thanks to that haha.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Well, you know that they say… The bill comes due.

goodbyejojo
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goodbyejojo

title reference to your last pictured tweet?

Theclaw Yaww
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Theclaw Yaww

while I agree that there was almost no set up the rest of the game I think have been fantastic but too bad you didnt enjoy it Jim, really hope you dont get hate for this.

Ryan Higgins
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Ryan Higgins

I think the piss poor PC port is worth a mention here too.

CriticalQuit
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CriticalQuit

I’ve personally been enjoying my time with Dishonored 2, but honestly, I’m probably going to completely forget about it as soon as I get my grubby hands on Pokemon Sun tomorrow.

Kritarion
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Kritarion
Cameron Ward
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Cameron Ward

everyone get your popcorn out and some cozy seats, the salty fans are coming

Tylericous
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Tylericous

Brace yourself Jim, you are going to get attacked from all kinds of people.

Jim Sterling
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Not really bothered.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

I see sunglasses descending from the heavens upon your fatty boom boom face of no fucks to give.

William Jones
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William Jones

Speaking of which… just check out jims twitter feed!

Aidan Long
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Aidan Long

Still sorry you got to go through it. It really angers me that people can’t seem to just go, “Heh, okay I still enjoyed it.” when it come to games.

Johanna Peebles
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Johanna Peebles

I really don’t understand attacking people over their opinions on games.

It’s OK for a person to not like something, and a different person to love that same exact thing.

lordoffantasy
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lordoffantasy

my only attakc is that the review feels like someone spilt the opinion inkwell all over it, and didn’t bother to clean it up.

a lot of the comments are of utter confusion about his reaction to the game from their own personal experiences with it. and a lot of the review seems to be more ‘on him’ than actual faults with the game.
glitches aaside of course.

zarathustra2k1
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zarathustra2k1

Did he “drop the ball”?

Leah
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Leah

Why do you keep badgering him about his use of metaphors?

Zouack
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Zouack

Oh, there’s gonna be blood, Jim

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