Game of Thrones – A Telltale Game Series Episode Six: The Ice Dragon Review

A disappointing end to a promising series.

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Developer: Telltale Games
Publisher: Telltale Games
Format: PC (reviewed), PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One
Released: November 17, 2015
Copy supplied by publisher

Telltale’s Game of Thrones has had its problems – for the most part it’s been a well told adventure, but its consistent hopelessness and desperate need for some satisfying moments have kept it from being one of the studio’s best. With so many plot threads still up in the air, I was curious how exactly Telltale would resolve everything in order to give The Ice Dragon the conclusion it deserves.

I now have my answer.

Telltale didn’t.

The sixth and final episode of Game of Thrones is an unfortunate disappointment that ends with the resolution of nothing. It’s merely a continuation of the humiliation conga that is House Forrester’s biography, one that ends with a cliffhanger rather than anything of substance.

Naturally, there are choices that can affect the outcome, with different roads to reach, but the ultimate consequences equate to roughly the same message – Game of Thrones was never going to wrap itself up this season, and the ultimate tease for a second set of episodes is utterly exasperating.

I should have seen it coming, really, but this hindsight does little to satisfy me. After a decent series, the ending is a damp affair.

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We’ve had five episodes of drawn out embarrassment, punishment, and destruction – players needed something to feel jubilant about. Episode Six gave me one chance for revenge, one opportunity to take some joy in an action, and even that was swiftly taken away to be replaced with yet more misery for the family of Ironrath.

Even George R.R. Martin knows you need to change the tune a little bit to stop your audience getting bored. It can’t all be depression.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not one of these people who crave a happy ending – I wouldn’t be a fan of A Song of Ice and Fire if I was – but you can only maintain an atmosphere of depressing failure for so long before it invokes apathy in the audience. Had there been more hope spots throughout this season, more opportunities to score some meaningful wins, then an ending this dismal would have worked.

As it is, it’s just more despair piled upon despair, and as such, I’ve all but lost interest in the story. Telltale went in entirely the wrong direction for this “concluding” episode, merely continuing the exact same note it’s doggedly maintained for five episodes now before promising another season to see where things really end up.

Hell, at this point, the Forresters are pathetic. Following this episode, I’ve all but lost any investment I may have had in them as protagonists. It’s hard to have respect for characters who are so repeatedly shoved into the dirt and made to look like desperate failures. I don’t care about House Forrester anymore. Not after this episode.

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I’d rather root for the Boltons – at least they can achieve something.

Structurally, the episode is sound. It’s as well paced as any other, and its action scenes are pretty solid. As objectively as possible, I can say it’s as good as any episode in the series to date.

This had to be more than that, however. After all the time spent in this game, all the intrigue and the wondering exactly how House Forrester would prevail, an episode that’s just “more of the same” is exactly not what needed to happen.

As a big fan of Telltale’s work, and a Game of Thrones aficionado, I found this to be a dismal letdown. I expected better – hell, I at least expected to feel something at the end of this chapter. Instead, I feel nothing. I’m just completely apathetic to the whole thing, and I feel no reason to be excited about a second season because, well… it’ll just be more of the same, if past experience is any indicator.

At least the little ending narrative is nice, even if you’ll be spending most of it saying, “Wait, is that it?”

Yes.

Yes that’s really it.

5/10
Mediocre

InAFreeCountry
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InAFreeCountry

House Forrester is secretly House Charlie Brown.

Justin Graham
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Justin Graham

Then who’s Lucy yanking away the football?

Ruaridh Blake
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Ruaridh Blake

Everyone who isn’t in House Forrester.

Halroy
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Halroy

The Writers.

Seth Vandenburg
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Seth Vandenburg

Well that does sound disappointing. And now I have to wait on a sequel to see if things will get better… which I doubt now.

Well, on the plus side, at least Minecraft: Story Mode is a bit brighter. Speaking of which, had the opportunity to play it yet, Jim?

Gareth
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Gareth

From his comments on PodQuistion not so far and will probably review it once it is complete instead of episodically.

Norman Osborn
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Norman Osborn

A disappointing assessment Jim, given your supposed love of the grim tale. I myself love a good Greek tragedy, and tragedian stories are bleak from start to finish. As life is for some.

A shame you couldn’t appreciate what it was going for. Particularly as we never get a story told from the losing side. And it’s a most interesting affair.

Michael Campbell
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Michael Campbell

Tragedy can be done badly. The fact that people are losing compassion for the protagonists suggests that they have done so. If you stop caring about the players, you won’t experience catharsis.

twigcollins
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twigcollins
I find tragedies really interesting when the character’s own personality helps set them up for the final payoff. Coriolanus or King Lear only ending the way they could, for example, because of the type of people they were, and I wish that were more at play in this game because I’ve really enjoyed the other Telltale games, even when they are more bleak and grim. I did actually like how the ending of ep 1 happened, because it seemed a logical progression given the events that took place, and I could empathize with the character only having options that, due… Read more »
IntotheNightSky
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IntotheNightSky

The problem is that the story wasn’t resolved appropriately if it wanted to be a tragedy. A tragedy shouldn’t end with two or three sequel hooks.that wink at you saying, “That went poorly, but hey, there’s still some hope, buy the next game and maybe things will be better.”

MJC
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MJC

The review makes it pretty clear the game ends on a bunch of sequel hooks rather than an actual ending. Therefore you can’t really claim that we’re getting a story told from the losing side: if the story isn’t over yet, then there is no losing side. Only once it ends can a winner and loser be declared; until then, there’s always the possibility that the Forresters find a way to win in Season 2, and then it won’t be a story told from the losing side.

ian
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ian

You’re so right. It was literally just trying to be edgy and depressing, but fell so flat.

Norman Osborn
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Norman Osborn

You just said the word ‘edgy’ unironically, your opinion means nothing.

It’s not trying anything other to tell a story from the losing side. That’s it, and because you’re used to every story being told to you from the winning side, it’s made you uncomfortable. It’s made you scared. It’s made you unsettled. A good story is supposed to try evoke strong emotions, especially if they’re not emotions you’re used to feeling.

Hanzo615
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Hanzo615

That is the point, he did not feel anything. You cant feel any of the emotions you described because you know the end result and you simply stop to care. That is what they call darkness induced apathy. Tragedy done just for the sake of tragedy is no different than the usual run of the mil happy ending, you just don`t care either way. By the way telling someone their opinion means nothing is not a really god way to reinforce your arguments.

MJC
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MJC

There you go again making assumptions about a story that isn’t over yet and thus you don’t know if the story is being told from the losing side.

Taylor Dierks
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Taylor Dierks

You just dismissed someone’s opinion because they used a word the way it’s meant to be used, your opinion means nothing.

See how easy and ridiculous that is?

Seriously though, I got no impression that we’re hearing a “Loser’s Story” from the series. It just felt to me like cheap tricks supposed to make you feel unsteady by throwing you into a stacked situation, but instead just makes you numb to the whole affair.

Richard Cadman
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Richard Cadman

I’m not sure that word has reached the status you think it has. I understand exactly what he’s trying to say using it.

dyscode
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dyscode

Even if TellTale feel like giants, to beat an storytelling genius like R.R. Martin is way too big for them.

Forrest Kayssen
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Forrest Kayssen

“You can only maintain an atmosphere of depressing failure for so long before it invokes apathy in the audience.”

If only the writers of the GOT television series had had that nugget of information before they put out the last series. I’ve read the books, and was not expecting the show to get so morbidly unpleasant, all at once.

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

So you wouldn’t recommend the tv series?
I’ve never seen it, and can’t decide if I should fork out for Amazon prime to watch it or just to try one of the books first?

Kasey Moore
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GOT isn’t on Amazon Prime?

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

I don’t know which subscription site it’s on, I thought it was on prime. I only have built in free view on my tv so I’m deciding if I should sign up to one or not.

Kasey Moore
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I’ve known it to come off and on NowTV but that probably won’t happen again until S6 (?) airs.

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

I think I will just give the to show a miss then, Sky is out of the question because I think Rupert Murdoch is pure evil… Mr burns type evil and I’m not giving him a single penny of my hard earned.

I think I will pick the first book up tho as it does seem right up my street.

Forrest Kayssen
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Forrest Kayssen
The thing is, it truly is a great show. It never holds back from some of the more unpleasant things the books had (except some stuff that never really had a payoff, and they opted to up the Stark children’s ages, for obvious reasons.). The issue is the fourth and fifth books were strange, in that they take place largely at the same time, with the fourth book having scenes where the characters are reacting to stuff that happens in the fifth book, and vice versa. This was an odd move, but when you read both, you know he did… Read more »
Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

Sounds like my kind of thing.

David Sayers
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David Sayers

To be fair, the books at this point in the story have much the same problem, with the exception of a few choice moments that either the books haven’t got around to yet, or are exclusive to the show.

Forrest Kayssen
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Forrest Kayssen

It was more the fact that the writers opted to condense all of that stuff together, when even GRRM knew to split them up a bit in the books, that I had an issue with.

Matthew Castillo
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Matthew Castillo

The problem is that leaving them uncompressed would basically mean two seasons of nothing happening. At least nothing happening with characters people have any investment in.

Forrest Kayssen
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Forrest Kayssen

Except, I feel they brushed over certain things really quickly, when they could have been fleshed out much better. I won’t say which due to spoilers, but there are times where the show just leaps through character development stuff, so each episode can end on something dramatic.

Erich Fromm Hell
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It all starts to look a bit less like reflecting the toughness of the world, and more like sadism for the sake of it. I tell ya, If anyone even remotely decent manages to prevail at the end of this saga it’ll be the hardest won victory in the history of storytelling.

Sai
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Sai

So is it impossible to get a good ending? I’m honestly kind of hoping so. I made so many bad decisions and have very little desire to go back and replay for a different outcome.

Mauricio
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Mauricio

The outcome can change, but i doesn’t do it in any meaninfull way.

“So this character can die here, or live a life so miserable that him/her wished he/she had died. Person X or person Y will take this mortal wound.”

Also, yes, no happy endings.

Richard Cadman
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Richard Cadman

Well that’s Telltale all round isn’t? I’d like to think that ending was all my fault but it really wasn’t.

I still love there stuff but never ever play their games twice!

Richard Cadman
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Richard Cadman

Well that’s Telltale all round isn’t it? I’d like to think that ending was all my fault but it really wasn’t.

I still love their stuff but never ever play their games twice!

Vinnie Vincent's Dead Dog
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Vinnie Vincent's Dead Dog

The only Telltale games i really like are The Walking Dead games. Though i heard the Borderlands game is quite amazing. So i might give that a go.

Sai
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Sai

Did you try Wolf Among Us? I enjoyed it, but also had previously enjoyed the Fables comics, so my opinion may be influenced. And I also recommend the Borderlands game, but, once again, I was already a fan of Borderlands.

Matthew Castillo
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Matthew Castillo

I really loved Wolf Among Us and I had no exposure to Fables.

Kontarek
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Kontarek

I actually tried reading Fables after having played and loved Wolf Among Us; didn’t even come to close to living up to the game IMO.

Josh Griffiths
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Josh Griffiths

I really enjoyed the first three episodes of Wolf, when it was being a detective story. In the last two episodes, all that was thrown out the window and it turned into a boring, formulaic action thriller, which I found incredibly disappointing.

twigcollins
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twigcollins

I really loved the Borderlands game, one of my favorites of the year, and I’d never played Borderlands before.

Namfrey Fullson
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Namfrey Fullson
for me it was the complete opposite. I didn’t even know about Fables till I played TWAU. now all the 150 episodes and the game itself is a part of my home library =) I don’t really like telltale formula that much (I prefer how RedThreadGames defines the adventure storytelling game with their “Dreamfall Chapters”), and I was dissapointed to see their other titles are looking so much alike, so I never really bothered with this here beyond watching some let’s plays. I did play Borderlands though, but wasn’t that impressed. I thinks it also has something to do with… Read more »
ENAY
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ENAY

I never thought Walking Dead Series 1 could be beaten. After having plaed all TellTale games, I high HIGHLY recommend the Borderlands one.

Matthew Castillo
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Matthew Castillo
The basic mistake they made was wanting to have a single continuous plotline for their GOT licence. This should have been like Wolf Among Us, a self contained story that works whether or not you know the source material. I get wanting to get multiple seasons out of a license like GoT, but they would have been better served making each a standalone with this one bringing a conclusion to the Forrester story with maybe a cameo from them in the next one. For one, having this story as mostly self-contained could have let them make your choices in the… Read more »
Kalle Johansson
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Kalle Johansson
That is kind of the ending that I was hoping for. With how much longer they took with this episode, I desperately wanted the ending to feel like it was the culmination of all my choices, good and bad, coming back to haunt me. Like, befriend Tom in episode 2? You sirvive, because he busts you out of jail! Tell him to piss off? He doesn’t, and you die! But in the end, the only choices that matter are in this final episode, and everything else is a massive waste of time. And it’s not like I want every single… Read more »
Northreyar
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Northreyar
This is the same reason why i stopped giving a shit for the TV show after season 3. Too much doom and gloom, too goddamn often. With so few uplifting moments that it just became boring. Even though logic would say that, the fewer the happy moments the more precious they are, they don’t come out like this at all, because they last so little that they’re not memorable. The same whenever they introduce a new interesting character he dies before doing anything of note, so apathy sets in. Its hard to care about anyone when you know almost for… Read more »
Logan Graham
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Logan Graham

A red flag did come up for me when I saw the trophy list read as “Complete Season 1 of Game of Thrones.”

Sam
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Sam

I’m really getting tired of the Telltale formula.
We’ve got Don’tnod now. Maybe one more company to complete the Triforce, then I’d like to see what they make when they have to compete with one another.

Logan Graham
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Logan Graham

The Odd Gentlemen (King’s Quest) and Capcom (Revelations 2).

Sam
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Sam

Odd Gentlemen, good point. But I wouldn’t count Revelations 2. It was episodic, but not a Narrative Adventure like these other games. Plus it’s episodic nature was very spurious.

Carlos
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Carlos

I forgot that the Telltale Game Of Thrones games even existed ._.

Nitrium Oxide
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Nitrium Oxide
With these episodic things, I’m not entirely convinced they should be “rated” individually in the first place. I think in some ways it’s a slightly devious ploy on part of the publisher to get 6 separate reviews for what is imo literally a SINGLE game and thereby massively boosting exposure over a prolonged period – after all, no one plays just episode 2 because that’s apparently the best one, do they? My question to Jim: how would you rate Telltale’s Game of Thrones Season 1, in its entirety (i.e. as a single game, which imo it factually is since none… Read more »
Lizardeye
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About that whole “6 separate reviews” bit confuses me. I mean Jim can make what ever he feels like making. If he wants to thrust his pelvis into a pile of pogs then so be it. If he wants to make 5 (adless) reviews for an episodic game then also so be it

Nitrium Oxide
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Nitrium Oxide
What I was getting at is that he wouldn’t likely review non-episodic games 6 times (e.g. every stage of a CoD game, for example, as separate reviews). I didn’t mean to say he wasn’t allowed to do that (of course he is), but the fact is he doesn’t. Episodic games, by their very nature, encourage that behaviour and I’m personally not fan of multiple reviews of what is effectively a single title. Yes, I realise that I can choose to not read them then, and don’t you worry, I don’t. I still would like to know what Jim thinks of… Read more »
Mauricio
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Mauricio

There’s not much to do really, what he could do, wait a year after the game release to make a review about it? People want to read the review as soon the game is launched, not when they already forgot about the title. Yes he don’t review a non-episodic game 6 times, but that’s because is a whole product, but even those can get more than one review when they releases expansions like The Witcher 3.

Also, no, you don’t need to play this if you are a GoT fan, it doesn’t add anything of substance to the world.

Forrest Kayssen
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Forrest Kayssen

If the most recent Podquisition is anything to go by, he intends to review the Minecraft series as a whole, partly because of the disappointment he had with this one, and partly because there is nothing to cover except the engine (which is always the same) and the story, which is hard to cover without spoilers.

Nitrium Oxide
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Nitrium Oxide

Yeah, I was glad to hear that. I can see the benefit of doing a capsule review of the first episode to enlighten readers as to the basic story/writing/themes/characters/acting/gameplay, but after that hold out for the rest of episodes to be released before the final full game review.

Forrest Kayssen
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Forrest Kayssen

Upon reading your reply, I realized just how bad of a run on sentence I crafted in my previous post. I really need to lay off the commas.

Nitrium Oxide
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Nitrium Oxide

I’m an endless editor of comments myself. I always seem to quickly post what turns out to effectively be a draft, and then tinker with it for far too long, usually adding further thoughts etc.

Andrew Siribohdi
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Andrew Siribohdi

Well said, Jim.

Kalle Johansson
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Kalle Johansson
Yeah, just played through this episode, and while I liked it I do agree that the ending is a slap in the face. It’s all “there’s your lot, see you next season!” And the lack of closure is really the biggest problem of the episode, the whole season, and that’s not a problem I’ve had with any other Telltale game. Walking Dead Season 1 didn’t end on a cliffhanger. Tales from the Borderlands didn’t end on a cliffhanger (though it did leave we wondering if they’re planning on making another one). This game did. Why? There’s no reason for it!… Read more »
Erin von Vengerberg
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Erin von Vengerberg

Wolf Among Us didn’t end on a cliffhanger either. I suppose They’re milking GoT until it’s teats are dry and crusty.

Matthew Castillo
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Matthew Castillo

I really wish they had just opted to do so by focusing on another family for season 2.

MarcusFrost
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MarcusFrost
I’d argue that The Walking Dead Season 1, The Wolf Among Us, and Tales from the Borderlands all had cliffhanger endings as well. Granted, most of the plot threads raised in each of said games were resolved in a satisfying way, but they each had a sequel hook that needed to be resolved in a subsequent game. **ENDING SPOILERS FOR WALKING DEAD SEASON 1, THE WOLF AMONG US, AND TALES FROM THE BORDERLANDS** The Walking Dead Season 1: Clementine catches a glimpse of human figures walking in the distance. After observing them for a while, they stop, presumably because they… Read more »
Matthew Castillo
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Matthew Castillo

I would dispute that for the end to The Wolf Among Us is a sequel hook at all, rather it is a final question, “Is Faith really dead, and have we ever met Nerissa?” To say that is a sequel hook is like saying ending Inception with the top starting to wobble is a sequel hook.

MarcusFrost
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MarcusFrost

Fair enough. But I think it’s fair to say that it’s quite a bit more concrete than the Inception top wobble. The latter is completely ambiguous and works either way, whereas the former actually has a tangible answer that demands an answer in order to decipher a key plot point in its noir/crime narrative: “Is the first murder victim actually dead?”

Matthew Castillo
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Matthew Castillo

I don’t think it really does. The first murder victim is dead, she just might not be who we thought she was. It’s a minor bullet point that at most re-contextualizes a a couple of points, especially about “Nerissa’s” characterization and explaining why the Magic Mirror couldn’t be used to find the rest of Faith’s body. If we see a Wolf Among Us season I don’t think it will be brought up because it’s not a hook for an ongoing narrative.

Gareth
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Gareth

A lot of noir ends in a that way with the detective being posed one final question at the end that they work out as the credits roll.

Kalle Johansson
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Kalle Johansson
Well, yes, I can understand your point of view. But I would argue those are more sequel hooks than cliffhangers, mostly because of the differences in conclusion. And yes, I would argue there is a difference between a sequel hook and a cliffhanger. A sequel hook means there is something unresolved, something that can be brought up and resolved in a possible future installment, but the current storyline is complete even without a sequel, and the ending is the conclusion of the current story. A cliffhanger means the story is not yet over, the sequel will continue the current storyline,… Read more »
MarcusFrost
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MarcusFrost
Thank you for the well-thought-out counterpoint. I absolutely agree that the other three Telltale Games titles I mentioned above had more conclusive endings than Game of Thrones did (I said as much in my initial comment). **ENDING SPOILERS FOR GAME OF THRONES, WALKING DEAD, AND TALES FROM THE BORDERLANDS** Of the three, I think that The Walking Dead: Season One had the most complete ending. Taken on its own, its ambiguity allows for a range of interpretations and possible outcomes without outright validating or invalidating any of them (who the human figures are, whether or not Clem calls out to… Read more »
Kalle Johansson
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Kalle Johansson
Yes, I agree, the ending to Tales from the Borderlands was a bit odd, and I can definitely see why you would call it a cliffhanger. Hell, my first reaction to it was a stunned silence followed by “… what just happened?” I think the main reason I’m fine with the ending to TftB but dislike the ending to GoT is the feeling of finality that preceeded it. The vault is opened, Sasha survives, everything’s fine, and the future is looking up. Even if the last twist left me confused, I still enjoyed the ending and the game as a… Read more »
Billy Bissette
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Billy Bissette

Ends with the resolution of nothing, humiliation conga, ends with a cliffhanger rather than anything of substance, continuing the exact same note it’s doggedly maintained…

Sounds like they nailed the more annoying side of George R.R. Martin’s writing.

I’m guessing that Telltale had already decided on going for at least two “seasons” before they even started the story, and decided to go both futilely gloomy and “epic”, which means lots of not accomplishing stuff.

Logan Graham
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Logan Graham

I do wonder why Jim didn’t review Minecraft: Story Mode, though.

dan958
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Time demands. Not everything can be reviewed.

BAH!
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BAH!

It seems Laura is doing Minecraft. Give it a look.

Taylor Dierks
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Taylor Dierks

Lack of time/interest around this time of year I imagine.

Iouri Kornienko
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Iouri Kornienko
So After feeling kinda awesome at the start with the squire character (I honestly can’t remember their names…) and the other okish bits of episode one, something that started kinda light. The game ends with… more of the dull, depressing atmosphere that plagues the entire game? Great guess I know not to get it because for fucks sakes at least let us have A victory. Give us something to be happy about, give us something to bloody accomplish. It’s like watching DSPGaming play MGS3. It’s the same bullshit from start to finish and is just incredibly hard to watch due… Read more »
Craig the War Boy
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I find myself struggling to enjoy any Telltale game from time to time, for despite being well-written, and well-paced, their entire hook for this or any of their games seems to be “look how much shit we can put this character through.” You can argue that Clementine or Rhys are amazing characters, and they are, but it’s clear that with enough time devoted to them, Telltale is going to eventually break them. Season Two of The Walking Dead suggests that, depending on your choices, Clementine is going to become a very hard, cold individual despite her earlier virtues. Frankly, I… Read more »
HaveSomeOatmeal
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HaveSomeOatmeal

“Hell, at this point, the Forresters are pathetic.”

This.

Seriously. When the most satisfying things you can do as a Forrester in this game are slap Gryff Whitehill around a bit and call Ludd on his bluff (both in Episode 5), that’s saying something. Of course, others will have different moments they enjoyed I’m sure. But for me, those were the only moments where I felt any sense of retribution, which ultimately wasn’t all that satisfying anyway.

Erich Fromm Hell
Guest

There does come a point when your forlorn heroes stop looking like underdogs and start looking like toothless punchbags. The TV show has the same problem. Even after the dashing Mr. Snow was given a rare moment of triumph, they once more followed it up with… well, without going into spoilers, a moment of pure deflation.

Stephen Mc Devitt
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Stephen Mc Devitt

And here I was thinking of buying this game. Oh well. One less game to worry with the amount I’m getting for the PS4.

HaveSomeOatmeal
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HaveSomeOatmeal

I don’t know if you’ve picked up The Witcher 3 yet, but (in my humble opinion) it has throwaway sidequests with more substance than this series.

Thom
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Thom

Witcher 3’s monster hunts sometimes are massive quests on their own or lead directly to amazing ones (e.g. Cave of Dreams).

Stephen Mc Devitt
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Stephen Mc Devitt

I don’t know. I’ve played The Witcher series. I don’t know I’m suppose to get into Witcher 3 without having to know a shit-load of the lore. I did try to read about it an Kotaku article and know only a bit about the Law of Surprise.

Sai
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Sai

I went into Witcher 3 after only playing Witcher 2. I found the series is pretty good about getting the audience up to speed. Even when it isn’t, the game is more about the way you confront your past, not being controlled by it.

Zanda
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Zanda

Yeah, it seems this series was plagued by all the problems that come with episodic releases.

jimfk
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jimfk

I think I am done with Telltale, thanks for the warning Jim, at least I know what is coming.

Nioji
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Nioji

You should probably try out Tales From the Borderlands if you haven’t, because after playing both it is really, reaaaaly clear where the talent went.

Lucy
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Lucy

All of the talent, and the least amount of funding and support, it seems. It’s disappointing and weird.

jimfk
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jimfk

I played TFTB and liked it, but it should not have taken 11 months and have a new game released in the meantime

Lucy
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Lucy
It’s not even that, in my opinion. I followed TFTBL from ep 2 onward, and when you compare the hype around it versus the hype around GoT and Minecraft, the division is very stark. From the fact that TFTBL barely got any trailers (and often merely days or HOURS before episode releases) to how quickly the other franchises pumped out episodes, got trailers and cast interviews and hype hype hype… I very much got the impression that TFTBL was not TTG’s priority. Which is a damn shame because even with its minor flaws (which could be again attributed to the… Read more »
dam4rus
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dam4rus

This, so much. TFTBL is easily a GOTY contender for me, that actually no one played. It’s strange, since Borderlands 2 sold a lot, so it’s not a niché franchise, yet TFTBL got no marketing at all. I wonder why’s that…

Lucy
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Lucy

Rhys’ big climactic scene in Ep5 cinched TFTBL as my GOTY (and honestly one of the top five games I’ve played in the last few years, jesus). I assume the lack of focus/support for TFTBL is just a… really unwise management decision. I daydream of how much better the still-pretty-fucking-great ep 5 would have been with the sort of support that, for instance, the Minecraft TTG series is getting. /dreamy sigh

dam4rus
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dam4rus

For me, pretty much the whole Ep5 did it. It was such an emotional rollercaster. The first few minutes or so, where pretty boring to me. Then it suddenly became very dark (that scene with Rhys, pretty much killing a bunch of innocent people to stop an AI) and mysterious (finally revealing who is the faceless wanderer). And then, that epic fight with the Traveler… I laughed, i cried, i rooted for the heroes. It was like all emotion in the world is put into an half hour or so. It was a brilliant ending to a brilliant series.

Logan Graham
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Logan Graham

Game of Thrones is much better known than Borderlands.

dam4rus
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dam4rus
Yes, i know that, but GoT is not a video game franchise and Borderlands is. Yet, Borderlands 2 sold more, than 13 million copies and that’s a lot for such a fresh IP. My best suggestion as to why TFTBL was mostly ignored is pretty much this game. They knew this would sell better, so other TellTale games moved down in priority. It’s such a shame. My biggest “wtf” moment was, when i realized a FREAKING Minecraft game has bigger priority. I mean seriously: Borderlands already had a world, so they just had to build upon it, yet Minecraft is… Read more »
Logan Graham
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Logan Graham

I did notice a few ads for Borderlands, and it’s not as if people didn’t buy it. Oh, and now that it’s serious GOTY material, people know about it.

Nioji
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Nioji

Still better than GoT even with less funding IMO

Sai
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Sai

I’ve noticed this over the past two cycles. The previous cycle had Walking Dead 2 and Wolf Among Us come out at the same time. When TellTale is working multiple releases, the flagship series (WD2 and GoT in my opinion) will typically adhere to the estimated release schedule but be a bit disappointing. I don’t know if they’re rushing a bit and the story is suffering for that reason, or if TellTale is just weak under pressure.

Nioji
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Nioji

Maybe they just don’t have the manpower to handle both projects at the same time ?

Gareth
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Gareth

Except the previous cycle excluding the delay of TWAU’s second episode. The episodes for both games were released side by side.

galactix100
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galactix100

I’d recommend Life is Strange if you’re still looking for a good episodic series. It absolutely has it’s flaws but it’s really worth playing. One of the few games that’s handled real topics and issues with any sort of taste.

jimfk
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jimfk

Just waiting for nthe retail copy

Iouri Kornienko
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Iouri Kornienko

Don’t get life is strange. It’s really not all that much better than this.

Namfrey Fullson
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Namfrey Fullson
do you know The Longest Journey (TLJ) and its sequal Dreamfall: TLJ by Funcom? the trilogy is comming to an end with Dreamfall Chapters by RedThreadGames (RTG) (lead by Ragnar Tornquist former writer and developer of TLJ and The Secret World) being released episodically since October 2014. there are almost 4 out of 5 Books (Episode) released already. I say “almost”, because RTG had to delay the 4th one because they’re in the process of porting first 3 Books to new Unity version, but I hear it’s just around the corner. and Tornquist promised the game will finish this year.… Read more »
Nitrium Oxide
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Nitrium Oxide

I’m a backer of Dreamfall Chapters and am waiting for the entire game to be released before playing. I’m not a fan of episodic games, and felt a little betrayed when they decided to go down that route (and, along with many others, said so). Loved TLJ and Dreamfall though, which is why I backed DC in the first place.

jimfk
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jimfk

Yany idea how long until that is?

Namfrey Fullson
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Namfrey Fullson
hi. I can totally undertand that. but I also have no reason to disagree with Tornquist’s decision to change the format back to episodic. I say “back” because IIRC this game originally (like in the first time it ever even became a thing) was supposed to be in parts. tl;dr as for the other things. I don’t know. both TLJ and DF was almost devoid of any gameplay mechanics, and if there was something it usually was either servicable or unnecessary (combat in DF). there really wasn’t anything that great about the gameplay in the past if you think about… Read more »
James White
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James White

I couldn’t bring myself to finish the fifth one. I really lost interest around halfway through and, to be honest, I don’t care all that much what happens to the characters, especially now that I can see it doesn’t seem particularly worthwhile. It feels like a lot more of Telltale’s effort and enthusiasm went into Tales from the Borderlands, which is my favourite Telltale game ever. This just started feeling like an obligatory series tie-in game after a while.

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