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18 Comments on "Hand Of Fate 2 – Card Rock Cafe (Jimpressions)"

Terry-Osaurusus Hex XI
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Reminds me a lot of Fable, that combat, but with less Stephen Fry. The game master sounds a fair bit more resigned this time around though. Still a great choice of voice actor. While on the subject of roleplaying Indies, I have been torn for a long time over whether to get Darkest Dungeon and its’ DLC, but it sounds like it could be merely an exercise in growing frustration, but it also has considerably great reviews and lovecraftian aesthetic/themes. The thing is, if a game feels like it’s actively wasting my time, it just reminds me more that I’m… Read more »
Polishfury5000
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I really enjoy Darkest Dungeon, but it’s got a somewhat punishing curve. You will have characters (sometimes whole parties) die because of a poor decision you made. It’s all about risk management, but it’s worth a shot if you want a rogue-like rpg with a healthy bit X-com injected.

Terry-Osaurusus Hex XI
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Hmm, I think it’s probably the thought of having to restart my whole game with no progress saved whatsoever that worries me. It’s like throwing away precious hours to the wind of the only life I get to have, with nothing to show for it. Am not sure if that’s the case, but it sounds like it so far. :/

Polishfury5000
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Oh a party wipe isn’t the end of the game. There are always more recruits showing up in town. You will have more than enough units available, especially if you’re diligent with upgrading your Hamlet (read: base). If you lose you’re favorite unit, there’s a good chance you’ll have another of the same class in the wings to take their place. And if you’re smart, you’ll be swapping units in and out to give yourself a beefy sideline. The trick is to never have a party full of veterans go out at once on a quest. If things get hairy… Read more »
Terry-Osaurusus Hex XI
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Welp, I went ahead and got it on sale, so time to brace for some punishment then! That narrator is intense.

Polishfury5000
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The narrator is one of my favorite parts of the game. Best of luck with your campaign!

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

For a similar game with a less punishing curve, there is Plague Road.

Terry-Osaurusus Hex XI
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Have seen that, but the art style (mainly its’ use of colour I think) and alleged lack of polish is a bit of a turn-off personally at moment. I am aware of where and whom it originates from, so don’t want to be needlessly dismissive or down about it. But it doesn’t appeal as much as the description of it alone does, and I love Steampunk a lot. I may check out a let’s play to see it in action though, as a trial isn’t available.

Ayon Windsor
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Ayon Windsor
I can’t really agree on the idea of moving the combat to the card game. I’d hate it. I don’t find the combat appealing either but that’s because it’s so generic, so my takeaway is that they should just work to make the combat better so that it’s more enjoyable. For me the mix of card game and standard combat when there are encounters is what basically makes Hand of Fate so unique and such a standout experience. Other than that I too feel like there’s not much to say. It’s a good idea for a game more refined in… Read more »
Benj
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Benj

The combat’s not really bad (although it’s not good either) but the problem I find with it is that it feels like it teleports to into a less well made and more generic action RPG game.

It could work much better if it literally took place on the tabletop with your little gold figure doing the fighting, even if the mechanics weren’t improved.

The dealer could place little enemy figures down that start moving and attacking and he could lay down cards which then have environment objects rising out of them like a kid’s pop-up book.

Coughee
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Coughee

That actually sounds amazing. In addition to that I feel that, given that it’s a tabletop game, it would have probably benefited from a turn based combat system. I haven’t played HoF, but given it uses cards and appears somewhat DnD-esque (I only recently started tabletop RPGs, sorry if it’s the wrong comparison), it seems fitting to me. And it’s much easier to do good turn based combat than good action ones.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS
There has been a big pushback against turn-based combat in recent years which might have had them not be willing to try it. I have seen several forum posts decrying it as “a waste of time”, “press X to win”, and “objectively boring”. One of the most egregious examples I remember was in the FFXV official forums, where one guy said he was not going to buy World of Final Fantasy or any more Square games with that mechanic just to spite the people that didn’t want FF7Remake or FFXV to be an action game. Jim himself made a video… Read more »
Coughee
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Coughee

True, but on the other hand, this is in essence a card game. At that point it’d be illogical to actively expect it going in to not be turn based (even though this is an action game in combat segments, which is fine and all). I mean, if people actually boycotted the game (not “not buy,” but actually get up in arms) for being a turn based game due to being a card game well that… that’d just be crazy, frankly.

Spurious K
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I don’t know if I’m in a minority or not but I am not anywhere near as troubled by the combat as a lot of people. It could definitely stand improvement but I’d genuinely hate a more random chance based approach. Making it work like the cards and other minigames would make the game far less accessible. My reaction speed ain’t what it was 10 years ago, I’ve had to stop playing after about 8 hours because I’m just having too much trouble with the timing puzzles, and am waiting to see if they patch in some difficulty options. Having… Read more »
Nitrium
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Nitrium

I enjoyed the 1st game well enough… but fuck fighting that end boss which relies entirely on the super janky combat mechanic to defeat. After a dozen or so tries, I just installed an “unlimited health” trainer (a bonus of playing on PC). It soured me so much on an otherwise solid game, I’m not sure I would put myself through that again (assuming it’s the same of course, but I suspect it will be).

Polishfury5000
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I quite enjoyed the first one, so being as good is enough to get my purchase.

Would love to see a table top version come out some day

Jason_Rayes
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There is actually a table top version. I actually posted a link to the site where you could buy a copy but the comment was “Awaiting moderation” and then it disappeared. I’m guessing that don’t want me linking to the board game version so I won’t provide the link again. Just google “Hand of Fate Ordeals”.

Polishfury5000
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Neat, I’ll have to check that out. And yeah, there’s a blanket no linking policy. It keeps a lot of spam accounts/bots away.

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