So About That Time I Gave Hellblade A 1/10…

Sometimes you don’t quite consider every facet of something until the thing is done. Unfortunately this was the case with a previously published review for Hellblade.

The review will be back, but given the personally unprecedented situation, I need to think about it more than I initially did.

Savlian Matius
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Savlian Matius

Just want to say Jim, and you’ve mentioned it before, I really respect commentators that can consider their own correctness and behavior. We need more of this in future. Big fan, SVM

Muzammil
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Muzammil

i agree with your 1/10 score. and your torch glitch is not the only one game breaking bug in this game there are more.

Muzammil
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Muzammil

i also encounter game breaking bug at Valravn door it is not showing that yellow focus ring which start the puzzle.

Ben
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Ben

I still remember playing one of the Terminator games on the PS2 or the PS3 a while back. Forget which one. Anyway, within 5 minutes of the game starting, I ran into a glitch where every time it tried to load the autosave, the game crashed.
Haven’t played the game since.
I wouldn’t blame anyone for giving a game a low score over a game breaking glitch.

Omkar
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Omkar

you just have to walk through that door there is no puzzle

C00REY
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C00REY
You should probably stick to your initial 1/10 score. The game left you in a state of rage and extreme disappointment. That sounds like a 1/10 game to me. Sometimes it’s okay to admit that a singular moment ruined an entire experience for you because clearly it did. Even if your experience is wildly different from most players, it was still your experience and you can only base a review off of that. It sounds like your letting the criticism of your review eat away at the confidence of your position. You’ve cooled off now but consider the fact that… Read more »
Lucas
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Lucas

By that logic, many games he has given higher review scores to should be 1/10.

Mandrake42
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Mandrake42

While missing the torch was user error a game should never be able to autosave in a state that renders the game unwinnable, especially when said autosave is the only way the game saves. That is beyond simple player error and down to flawed game design. Hopefully that patch it.

Chris Topher
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Jim loves video game criticism…we love Jim!

Chris Topher
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Game breaking bug…game broken…nuff sed. 0/10. Review later or points for time played.

Chris Topher
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Review the game you have !!!! Support this and not anything else always.

Jim’s the man!

Chris Topher
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Don’t dish the black tiger dude !!!

Chris Topher
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Game broken…even for 1 copy isn’t ok. You should.not be able to break it. That’s the games fault 100%.
1 /10 is fair but….speak to devs and when they patch it rereview it.
That’s all you can do.
Or give it a.score for what you played.

Jim’s the man.

illsublominal
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illsublominal
Well, this is the challenge of the medium. It doesn’t matter how powerful a narrative in a video game is, the game has to work, right? The interactivity is the experience, but if the interactivity is busted somehow, what’s left? A YouTube video where I can watch someone else interact? If I’m reading a powerful book about mental illness, and the final chapter is missing in my copy because of a publisher’s error, or I dropped it in the toilet, getting it all nice and soggy, I can just run out and buy another copy, or go to the library… Read more »
keyfab
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keyfab

Combat is fun but puzzles and running around is not, i like the game but i just got really bored after 2 hours of game play trying to find the puzzle. I am not saying its a bad game the graphics are amazing, but its just not for everyone.

Enigma_2099
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Enigma_2099

I disagree with the 1/10. That’s it. Everything else… you’re on point, sir.

againelation
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againelation

I’m curious if Jim considered restarting the game? It’s not that long unless the idea of replaying the game is a negative. Which then I would say doesn’t garner a coveted 8 or 9.

Chris Topher
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He should have contacted the devs first to make sure it was broken. We all get lost in games but ….having to restart.. .because of a potential bug…thats not fair. It’s there issue and they should have considered all aspects but as a smaller company we can look kindly on their mistakes…if they acknowledge them and apologise and fix it asap.

Anon
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Anon

Perhaps a “refused classification” would be in order? I mean, I’d expect anything placed on a ten point scale to be physically beatable, just that anything in the lower half to be less pleasant than an actual physical beating.

Kj Boyce
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Save files are just a feature of the medium.

I’ve encountered similar issues with ffviii and dragon age: origins. DA:O being my favorite video game of all time.

Everyone does stupid stuff when they get mad at 2am. If you don’t feel comfortable revising the score just obstain.

P.S. the footage from this video alone has convinced me to purchase a copy. So there is that.

Chris Topher
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It does look epic and Jim really sells it on the rereview.

Stephen Legerton
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So really you’ve released an unfinished review that you plan to patch 😉

Christoph Brinkmann
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Christoph Brinkmann

To anybody defending this game and/or the developer: The developer should’ve caught the bug just from ordinary playtesting. They should’ve asked, “What if the player misses this torch?” You ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS assume the player is going to do something different than what you expect. How often? ALWAYS, because the player has full control over what the character is doing, which means they might not do what you expect.

Chris Topher
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People won’t like this but after many years if people watching though I love my fellow man…theyre mostly dumb as hammers and will get it wrong given the chance. Gamers are no better and often worse if only due to age so yes a dev. Needs to play test expecting failure and for idiot players to mess about and break a game if that’s possible. Their challenge is to ensure like a toy for a small child it is safe and won’t break.

Lloyd Arold
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Yeah that seems like a real oversight on the part of the developers, especially if there is no manual saving option to fall back on. His initial reaction was a bit much though I cannot blame his anger if it meant starting over from scratch. Reminds me of the time Doom (PS4) not only crashed during a boss fight but corrupted my whole save file, luckily I had an earlier save backed up but it still cost me hours of progress.

Christopher Allen
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Christopher Allen

I’m reminded of Half-Life 1 in the “On a rail” section. An autosave captured a situation where a soldier had thrown a grenade, set to explode in my face, in half a second. So, a permanent cycle of restoring and getting killed immediately. Funny, yes, but also enraging.

Jack Bonar
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Jack Bonar

Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain broke at the end of the game for me. I couldn’t go back and couldn’t go forward. I never beat it. I still look back fondly on the game though and think of it as one of my favorite PS1 games and probably in my top 100 of all time. Still sucked though.

Mitch_Pinkerton
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Considering no other review I’ve seen thus far mentions this bug or has given the game lower than a 6, I’d say your credibility as a legitimate reviewer is definitely in question by giving the game a 1 out of 10.

Mitch_Pinkerton
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I just watched you redaction/explanation video and would now like to amend my initial post. I think you did a very good job explaining why you did what you did and why you also feel it necessary to redact it. I agree with your points on that (1) Ninja Theory did not deserve the thrashing they received and (2) that the new mentality to rush a game out the door and patch it later is one of, if not the most, annoying developments within the video game industry since the launch of the PS3 and XBox 360. For me, your… Read more »
George
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George
Just for my 2 cents. Given what you just described…I think a 3/10 would be appropriate. A 1 is too extreme and I’m glad you reconsidered. But your policy of “review the game you have” is spot on. This kind of bug should never have been in the game at all period. And… Now for a controversial thing to say…I realize what this game is trying to do regarding its themes around mental illness, gender, it’s play on the AAA paradigm and it’s “special mechanic,” ….but because of this I honestly question how forgiving and praising the “reviewer community” is… Read more »
machine_dirty
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I don’t think people will be as forgiving now that we know Ninja Theory are outright liars when it comes to this game.

tristen levine
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tristen levine

how have they lied exactly?

machine_dirty
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Let’s just say that permadeath thing is BS.

Jayrad
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Jayrad

Pssst… the game’s about mental illness, including hallucinations. The fact that you may or may not think you might perma-die is, you know, possibly a point of the story.

Making the player feel crazy/lost/unsure due to the hallucinations in the game & telling your character the truth AND lying to you is fairly brilliant.

Michael Wolfe
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Michael Wolfe
Reviewing a broken product is a golden opportunity. For physical goods like what I’ve reviewed on Newegg/Amazon; I go through the whole user experience process before posting my review. I contact the manufacturer; troubleshoot/RMA as needed; and once I have a working-as-intended product I continue my testing and validation for review. I’ll then take the score I would give it, and deduct based on my customer service experience. Long hold times, department looping, requiring the customer to pay shipping, lengthy recovery times, and many other factors chip away heavily at my score and I make note of every detail along… Read more »
TemplarGR
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TemplarGR
Well, i believe a 1/10 score for a good game that has a game breaking bug is unjustified, because unless the developer went bankrupt or has a total lack of ethics, the bug will most likely get fixed at some point. Still, a review should take into consideration the broken state of the game at release, there is no justification for releasing broken code to customers, and this SHOULD remove points from the overall score, in my opinion. If i were you, i would figure out what the game deserves regardless of game stability, then substract 2 or 3 points… Read more »
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