Horizon: Zero Dawn Review – Heavy Metal

Rise of the machines.

Developer: Guerrilla Games
Publisher: Sony
Format: PS4
Released: February 28, 2017
Copy provided by publisher

Horizon: Zero Dawn‘s variety of inspirations is one of its most astounding features. Bringing together elements from Far CryMonster HunterThe WitcherMass Effect and more, Guerrilla’s first major original work outside of Killzone could easily be written off as derivative, but it’s the way in which these disparate ideas are brought together as a cohesive, lovingly crafted whole that makes it truly special.

In truth, Zero Dawn does nothing you haven’t seen before in so many open world games. It has side quests, it has big monsters, it has simplified crafting systems, it has stealth and combat and skill trees. It even has its own version of Ubisoft’s weary “radio tower” mapping system that has become something of an industry joke.

Despite its seeming unoriginality, and despite containing so many open world trappings I’d ordinarily hate, Horizon is something special.

A huge part of the game’s creative success comes from the world in which it’s set. Taking place on Earth hundreds of years into the future, humanity is split into separate tribes after a great calamity wiped out any modern concept of civilization. These tribes eke out primitive existences while avoiding the wrath of the machines – constructs that behave like peculiar animals and show little more than hostility toward organic life.

With incredible robot designs and diverse environments that incorporate snowy mountaintops, rich jungles, and arid deserts, Horizon‘s world is remarkable. As the map opens itself to the player, they find themselves in a similar situation to protagonist Aloy – an outcast from her own isolated tribe, coming to realize just how large and varied the world is.

Aloy’s tribe, the Nora, forbid exploration and interaction with old world remnants, and at first the player may feel the game has only forests and pre-medieval settlements to offer. Over the course of many densely packed hours, however, a detailed land full of different cultures in their own unique stages of development is revealed.

While many open worlds pick a single theme and stick to it, Horizon feels so much more real thanks to its believable heterogeneity.

This is one of the first open world games I’ve played in years that actually caught me in the trap of pursuing sidequests, hunting for collectibles, and scouring ruins for loot because it’s a world I simply love being in. Not only is it gorgeous to look at, it’s packed full of interesting locations and the machine threat is as fascinating as it is intimidating.

Simply watching robotic horses graze is a curious sight, and hunting them is even more enthralling.

Using simple stealth mechanics and a whole host of unique weaponry, players will doubtless spend much time tracking and taking down increasingly deadly creatures and harvesting their shiny bodies for precious materials. Environments are full of places to set traps, tall grass to hide in, and vantage points from which to snipe.

Aloy’s skills expand as she levels up to include critical sneak attacks, enhance aiming mechanics, and more. It’s worth checking out all the trees before investing though, as despite being split into three general themes – sneaking, fighting, and gathering – the actual skills in each tree share very little in common and you might miss out on something good if you simply try to complete a path.

Vital to survival is the Focus, a piece of mysterious technology Aloy recovered as a child. Using the Focus, players can highlight machines, get a visual read on their movement patterns, and detect weak spots. It’s also a big part of the many tracking quests that reminds me so much of The Witcher 3.

At first, the Focus and forgiving stealth make for an easy time, as Aloy has a huge visual advantage and the ability to quickly hide after striking. However, machines get larger, more aggressive, and harder to hide from, requiring players to use more tools and invariably resolve confrontations with increasingly direct action.

Key to taking down some of Zero Dawn‘s biggest mechanical threats is in shooting distinct parts of their bodies. The Focus highlights areas that can be torn from an opponent’s frame with enough damage. These include various power cells as well as weapons, some of which can even be used by Aloy if they’re removed. Additionally, the heavy armor that protects most machines can be destroyed with sustained attacks, exposing more of their bodies.

As better weapons are purchased with scrap metal and materials, they’ll make the systematic stripping of machines easier, with some arrowheads designed specifically to tear into vulnerable components more than deal direct damage. There are also elemental effects that can be conferred upon the opposition via traps or specialist arrows – fire deals continuous damage, ice weakens a robot’s overall defense, lightning can temporarily shut them down, and corruption turns machines against other machines.

It’s viable to play the whole game using the many bows on offer, but other weaponry can be purchased. The Tripcaster lays down traps that activate via proximity, Slings can provide explosive or elemental damage, and the Ropecaster is a fantastic little tool that entangles machines and keeps them out of the fight for a significant length of time – a valuable trick when going up against large groups.

As if that wasn’t enough, the crafting system allows for more simple traps to be built, as well as potions that increase health or raise Aloy’s endurance to specific elemental attacks.

Combat is often hectic, the machines trending toward relentless aggression once sufficiently riled. Battles against larger foes like the Sawtooth or Thunderjaw are often nervewracking affairs with metal monsters that can take Aloy down in only a short amount of time. Preparing ahead of time by laying traps and learning the surroundings definitely helps, but once it all kicks off it’ll be chaos – the fun, frantic kind of chaos as opposed to the messy, uncoordinated kind.

Enemy AI isn’t always reliable, which might be my one real gripe about the game. Laying down traps is one thing, but sometimes robots just magically know where they are even if you’re undetected, and you’ll spend some frustrating time trying to convince them to walk near the bloody things. They also sometimes forget about combat even when in the middle of it, running off and randomly returning.

Outside of these hiccups, battles are mostly thrilling encounters. It’s just that sometimes, sadly, the mask slips and the machines get a little bit too goofy to take seriously.

Loot is a big part of the experience, with Aloy gathering all sorts of crafting components, weapon/outfit mods, and rare valuables on the corpses of her cybernetic prey. Mods can make weapons more powerful, accurate, and elementally aligned, or be slotted into outfits to improve stealth and resistance to damage types.

In lieu of traditional loot (armor and weapons are specific items bought from merchants), modifications become the items of true worth, as well as specific machine parts that merchants require in order to sell their best gear. It’s not enough to just have the scrap metal currency – you’ll need to hunt down Sawtooths and hope one of them gives up a rarely recovered heart if you want that really good Sharpshot Bow.

When not out hunting machines there’s a ton of other stuff to do, and while some of the distractions veer into cheap collect-a-thon territory, there are enough well-written and interesting side quests, enough weird distractions to get into, that the occasional bit of padding is so much less egregious than it is in, say, Far Cry 4.

Optional missions are as detailed and lengthy as any you’d find in a more traditional roleplaying game, while those aforementioned “radio tower” stand-ins are actually fun – huge, giraffe-like constructs that patrol areas surrounded by enemies or unique environmental challenges that must be navigated before the creatures themselves can be climbed and hacked for map information.

Hacking! I haven’t even mentioned hacking, which is something else Aloy can do in order to take control of unaware machines. Most hacked bots will attack others for a temporary length of time, but some can be used as mounts, giving Aloy a big metal horse, cow, or ram to gallop about on. What I love about the hacking is how indicative it is of this game’s whole philosophy – it’s a neat toy with several applications, but it’s not something you’re railroaded into using.

This game is just bursting with options that you’re not pressured into utilizing but can prove wonderful in the right situation. You can’t even wield all the weapons available at once, so it really pays to experiment. Three of my four slots are given over entirely to bow types with my Ropecaster bringing up the rear, but that’s just one way to approach combat – everything’s useful, it’s simply a case of finding the right uses for you.

If I were to compare Horizon: Zero Dawn to any one game, it would be one it actually has nothing in common with – a Raven Software shooter by the name of Singularity. It never got the credit it deserved, but it drew together the best parts of successful shooters – including Half-Life 2 and BioShock – to create a “greatest hits” version of the modern first-person shooter.

It didn’t do anything new, but it did everything incredibly well, and that’s what counted.

This is what Horizon has done with open world games. It’s liberally borrowed from the best and most successful, mixing them together in just the right portions to create an impressive marriage of features that could have mixed disastrously in less skilled hands.

It’s done this while also providing us a fantastic protagonist. Aloy is a determined hunter with a sarcastic streak, at once naive about the world around her and just embittered enough to deliver a splash of cynicism on the side. She’s joined by several affable recurring characters, most notably the bounty hunter Nil – his sociopathic outlook on life plays so well against Aloy, and I would play a game that further details his exploits in a heartbeat.

Facial expressions can find themselves stuck in the uncanny valley, but Horizon is beautiful outside of that. Animations are smooth and full of extra little flourishes that make Aloy and her metal enemies are delight to watch in action, and they’re backed up by terrific sound direction – solid voice acting, terrifying machine cries, and a subtle soundtrack that never gets in the way.

Artistically, Zero Dawn is simply impressive. Every creature looks thematically similar to its brethren but visually distinct, and each one is some unnatural take on a beast seemingly extinct in the universe. I’ve always been a fan of Guerrilla’s visual style, and they’ve really hit it out the park on this one.

One word of advice, though – as soon as possible, go into the HUD customization menu and have everything set to “dynamic.” Without it, the otherwise gorgeous game is ruined by an aggressive overlay of text, icons, and pointers.

Horizon: Zero Dawn is just brilliant. I speak as a critic who has played more “open sandbox” games than any one human should and has grown so very weary of them. I should have gotten sick of this thing in an hour, but I’ve been glued to it for days and days and I don’t want it to end. I love existing in this world – a world of desperate survival but of growing culture and a sense of hope. A world of giant metal animals that promise some breathtaking fights.

A world that’s basically Disney’s Brave meets The Last of Us, Enslaved: Journey to the West, Far Cry, Mass Effect, The Witcher, Monster Hunter, Toukiden, and loads of other really, really cool shit.

That’s basically Horizon in a nutshell – loads of really, really cool shit.

9.5/10
Superb 

  • SirAngry

    OK, I was kinda hoping for good reviews because the game has looked so friggin’ awesome for so long now, but I was trying to keep the hype down. Starting to read reviews and… my hype is through the roof.

  • Cameron Ward

    Well then, I’ll definitely put this on the rental/purchase list.

  • Xoxarle

    How is the performance? No traditional stuttering on regular PS4?

  • Confever

    No multiplayer ??

    • ipitydafool

      Yes, you can choose higher res or smoother framerate.

  • Robby

    I’m sad not to see the ‘Contains Skeletons’ tag. But I’m happy to see the positive review. I’ve been looking forward to this for a while. Thanks, Jim!

  • Hu Deegan

    Hey Jim, how big is the size of the game, like when it comes to installing it?

  • titaniumforest

    It’s open-world? And it does the “radio towers” shit? Not another one! Meh, I’ll give it a pass.

    • Max Smith

      Not buying Zelda too then?

      • Nikita Kress

        Not buying zelda, because Switch.

      • titaniumforest

        Dunno. Wait and see, after the last console Zelda sucked so hard (and to see if the WiiU version is fucked). 🙁 BTW meant open-world in the sense of sandbox fuckabout games like Ass Creed and Watch Dogs. Maybe if its like ALBW or Wind Waker then it could be good, I mean having an open world to explore can be great if there’s some structured, meaningful content (see also: The Witcher 3).

    • marcelostockle

      I’m a simple guy

    • Adam Robert Sherman

      Considering Jim said it works this time (and since he himself seems to loathe them), maybe you should give the game a shot.

    • Jessy Exum

      There are only like 5 ‘radio towers’ and each one of them is pretty entertaining and different from the environment you have to do it in, and the fact that the ‘towers’, called tallnecks, move.You have to fight off robots in the area (often new and difficult monsters) just to find possible ways to get onto the tallneck, and then hold your ground from monsters until you get the opportunity to leap onto the tallneck. I found it intense and refreshing.

  • Stephen

    Well hot damn, Jim. You liking an open world game? That’s significant high praise.
    I originally pre-ordered the game and cancelled, due to Zelda being on the horizon (heh heh, pun), but now I’ve gone ahead and ordered again, because it does sound like a game that I’ll most definitely need to make time for.

  • Drakeonian

    Hell fucking yeah! Almost finished Nioh, and now this perfectly fills in the void until Mass Effect Andromeda. Can’t wait!

    I’m also glad that Aloy has a sense of humour. The demos I’ve seen show her being quite stoic and po faced which, IMO, would’ve been a waste of Ashly Burch as an actress, she’s hilarious.

    • Adam Robert Sherman

      If she acts nothing like she does in HAWP, there will be blood.

  • Rachel McVeigh

    I thought this game looked great from the trailers but I’ve been trying to keep the hype down as I’m trying to finish FF15 & a replay of the ME:Trilogy before Mass Effect Andromeda comes out. This review makes me super tempted to scrap that plan and buy it at launch. Robot dinosaurs & being able to ride a sabertooth tiger are hard to resist.

  • Mark Patten

    My butthole has never been in a tighter pucker, glad to know that it’s a worthy purchase. Feel justified in pre-ordering for the artbook.

  • Pete

    Wow, that is a high praise. I hope that will release on PC once day but I guess it’s just a pipe dream.

    • Aiwass

      Yeah that’s not happening.

    • Raziel Kõbe

      Yeah.. wait Zelda and God of War for PC too lol

    • Jeffrey B

      you can play the game at various Youtube walkthroughs

  • Llyander

    Phew. I actually bought a PS4 because I wanted to play this game (Well, that and FFXV, The Last of Us and FINALLY to play Uncharted but this was a huge draw for me as well) so it’s good to know it’s worth it!

  • Nikita Kress

    Looks like 2017 shapes up to be better for ps users. Glad for you guys, hope any of these game will visit PC or will be available on PS Now.

  • Nemrex

    A world that’s basically Disney’s Brave meets The Last of Us, Enslaved: Journey to the West, Far Cry, Mass Effect, The Witcher, Monster Hunter, Toukiden, and loads of other really, really cool shit.

    With all due respect Jim, we all the the main inspiration the developers were enlightened by.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/48cd0e1b3d51e42b0fbb14bdb2cd85e89f34e7fb7bb46d3e17907f9da403652e.jpg

  • Maroš Goč

    Eurogamer – enjoyable but generic and forgettable

    • Jeffrey B

      the most honest review

      • Combo John

        Nope

      • MJC

        So many things wrong with this…

        1. How do you even know which review is “the most honest”, AKA the one you agree with most, when the game doesn’t come out for another week which means you certainly haven’t played it?

        2. Two disagreeing reviews can still be “the most honest”. Reviews are nothing more than the author’s opinion. If one author hates a game and says so in his review, and another author likes a game and says so in his review, both reviews are honest. You need to learn to separate facts from opinions.

        • Jeffrey B

          chill..lmao
          comment book report

        • Jeffrey B

          read the review again with you’ve finished the game..

  • Edvin

    Well, I guess i’m getting this horizon zero dawn game now.

  • ChaoticPesme

    I’m a little bit reassured now, from the looks of the trailers I got a feeling that it would turn out like No Man’s Sky. I’m a little jelly that you were able to play it this early now.

  • Stephen Mc Devitt

    Cool. There’s only two problems I personally have.

    1. Too many good games out in the same season with this, NieR: Automata, Yakuza 0, Gravity Rush 2, etc.

    2. I hate how my PS4 fills up quickly. So many of these games take up more than 50GB of space.

    • Uldi

      My wallet has given me a restraining order. No games until after I get Persona 5.

    • Gauzecage

      Luckily the PS4 has finally gotten an update allowing for external HDs so space isn’t as much of a problem. You can get a good 1TB HD for less than $60, or a 4TB for about $120 if you don’t want to ever have to worry about space for a long time

      • MJC

        *Will finally get.

        The latest non-beta PS4 software is 4.07 which does not include external hard drive support. Gotta keep waiting, but it’s coming at some point at least.

        • Gauzecage

          Thanks for the clarification. I thought the external HD update had finally launched

    • Scottface

      I’m having similar problems – although I feel I can hardly complain about “too many good games out” right now, my hard drive space is certainly suffering – Roll-on update 4.5!

  • Uldi

    This has been on my list of games I’m interested in since it first appeared at E3. I’m glad that it seems to be every bit as good as I hoped.

    This might be an oddly specific question, but you didn’t really talk much about the music. Does the game have that theme that played in the first E3 trailer, the one that is violins and drums when they first show Aloy hunting? That theme gave me goosebumps and instantly put them game on my list.

    • Scottface

      Was that the same E3 where sony had the live orchestra playing to their videos? All the music sounded amazing that year, lol.

  • Jiryn

    So, does anyone know why IGN is calling this game an RPG?
    Does it have experience and levels?
    From all the info presented and the previews, I was sure it was an action adventure affair akin to Zelda, Dishonored, or Shadows of Mordor.. none of which were RPGs. (Though Zelda 2 is an Action RPG)

    • William Jones

      “Aloy’s skills expand as she levels up to include critical sneak attacks,
      enhance aiming mechanics, and more. It’s worth checking out all the
      trees”

      • Jiryn

        Yep, I was noticing that after I posted.
        I was skimming through the various reviews as I lay here in bed.

        • William Jones

          Still doesn’t exactly answer your question but possibly a stream or video review will cast more light!

      • Jeffrey B

        it seems aloy’s skills can all be unlocked.
        so where’s the Role playing?

        • William Jones

          Roleplaying isn’t locked to specific game mechanics, no-one would dispute that a roll 20 game is a role playing game, nor would they dispute that Apocalypse World or Burning Wheel are either, yet these three approaches to games are wildly different, and still lead to what nearly everyone would agree is Roleplay.

          So it is with computer games. Just because a certain set of mechanics holds a virtual monopoly on what is described as a Roleplay experience, why shouldn’t a different, even if similar set lead to Roleplay as well? There is nothing preventing a fixed character, with no player input as to development from being a PC in a roleplaying game, except your inflexibility to give a different kind of roleplaying experience a try.

          • Jeffrey B

            lame

          • William Jones

            That says far more about you than me.

        • Ivan Sorensen

          That’s a fairly odd criteria for being a role playing game.

    • There is a case for it as an action RPG. Beyond just leveling, the quest lines and narrative elements follow a lot of action RPGs like The Elder Scrolls and The Witcher.

      Mechanically you’re looking at an action game with stealth bolted on, but there are a lot of fundamental elements taken from RPGs as well.

      • Jiryn

        Narrative Elements and Quests Lines don’t make an RPG.
        There are many point and click adventure and cinematic adventure games that feature both and are not RPGs.

        Usually the definitive trait that qualifies a game as an RPG is an experience and character level progression system. Without that it’s just an action adventure game.

        That is literally game genres down to their purest, most distilled form and in all honest most games now a days are hybrids and amalgamations.

        But yes, this game looks to actually have a level system, if you look in the upper right corner. Experience gained from killing monsters, allowing access to bigger, more powerful weaponry.

  • William Jones

    Does anyone know the performance on a PS pro vs the PS normal?

    • Baltech

      Apparently, they are both locked to 30FPS with Ps pro giving you 4K resolution. (according to IGN)

      • William Jones

        Cool, cheers! Though I think that’s a wasted opportunity for pro owners, I can go ahead and buy it knowing that my experience is a good as it would be – I will end up with a pro at some point, but I’m waiting for there to be enough games to make it worth it, and I can’t afford it for a few months, so for me personally this is good news, even though on an industry scale, it’s bad

        • MJC

          PS4 Pro sadly seems to be a wasted opportunity all around. Pretty much all games are the same or slightly worse framerates as developers and Sony continue to try and make more visually impressive eye candy for trailers and screenshots.

          • William Jones

            I agree, the only game on my “buy a pro for” list is Nioh, with it’s 60fps mode. I set myself a target of 5 games, but ideally it would be 10 before dropping the £350 for the console, even if I can claw back £100 or so for my old one.

        • Scottface

          PS4 pro is getting a “Boost mode” with the next update to make all PS4 games (even the ones without developer-made pro-patches) run smoother and in better resolution – assuming it works like they say, that’ll be a good time to “go pro…”

  • Spindrift Prime

    So is Horizon the name of the franchise, and this particular chapter in its story is called Zero Dawn? ‘Cause without any other context, the game’s title sure sounds like video gamey word salad.

  • Bebi

    Game looks interesting but compared to everything else that came it out this month, it seems quite stale and repetitive.

    Not to mention the fog this game has to offer, i’ve seen some streams and the bullshot level of these promotional screenshots is quite high.

  • Stormagedon Dark Lord Of All

    And no microtransactions do i see a Jimquisition Game of the Year award on the HORIZON

    • What you did there. I see it 🙂

    • Scott John Harrison

      It will be disappointing if micro-transactions are added at or after launch.

      • Stormagedon Dark Lord Of All

        Post launch microtransactions are usually placed into games with multiplayer

        • MJC

          Usually. Not always. Take a look at Deus Ex Mankind Divided. Microtransactions added at least post review-copies because Square Enix is a bag of dicks. Which is effectively the same thing as post launch because it meant none of the reviews mentioned microtransactions so consumers went in unaware only to get a nasty surprise.

          • BAH!

            Did the multiplayer portion of the game already have MT’s at launch?

          • Stormagedon Dark Lord Of All

            Yeah thats true but they have already said that the game will not have microtransactions

        • Scott John Harrison

          like that will stop anyone.

          • Stormagedon Dark Lord Of All

            The companies that have done it they never said that they wouldn’t put them in

    • Red-Tail
    • Benj

      The greatness of you comment only just DAWNed on me.

  • Sold!

  • BREATH OF THE WILD IS GETTING A SEASON PASS!!! GO SHIT ON ‘EM JIM!!!!

    • Stormagedon Dark Lord Of All

      AND ALL THE DLC IS LOCKED BEHIND IT!!! Jim should tie Shigeru Miyamoto to a chair and dance to Chains of Love before cutting off his ear

    • is there anything wrong with a certain game having a season pass??… other games do but companies dont change anything… is nintendo not allowed to have expansion passes???

      • Stormagedon Dark Lord Of All

        Of course they are allowed but Nintendo wont let you by the Zelda DLC individually if you want the dlc then you have no choice but to buy the season pass

        • Well its not a $50 season pass
          Its only 20 I’m pretty sure…
          So it’s not completely awful but that is an interesting thing that they are only allowing it to be through the pass

          • Stormagedon Dark Lord Of All

            It is but not a very good move considering your only getting 1 story chapter a dungeon a few chests and a switch t shirt for Link

          • NeptuniasBeard

            You say only like those aren’t several things that you don’t even know the length of.

          • Stormagedon Dark Lord Of All

            Your absolutely right about that also i forgot to mention that higher difficulty will be included but given Nintendos history i can see this disappointing a lot of people

        • BAH!

          Do we know the packs won’t be available separately? They were for Mario Kart 8 and Hyrule Warriors.

          • Stormagedon Dark Lord Of All

            Nintendo have confirmed it themselves

      • MJC

        If gamers in general complain about other games’ season passes, why should Nintendo get a free pass because they’re Nintendo? Especially when their season pass contains such dubious content as clothing items and a difficulty mode (unless this is a Master Quest where they’ve redone all the game’s dungeons, I simply can’t abide by paying for difficulty modes).

        “well you don’t have to buy it!!!” shout Nintendo fanboys

        Yeah no shit? Still gonna complain about it though in the hopes that Nintendo listens and doesn’t do it again.

        • NeptuniasBeard

          What exactly are you even complaining about anyway? Because Nintendo wants to extend the life of their game? Oh NO! How horrible…

          Nintendo has done season passes before and each one has given plenty of content at what was generally agreed to be a good price. The world doesn’t operate in black and white. There are good and bad ways to do a season pass

    • NeptuniasBeard

      Why would he? Nintendo has released season passes for several games already, and Jim didn’t say anything, hell he even praised them for the Hyrule Warriors DLC if I recall correctly.

      • Stormagedon Dark Lord Of All

        The season pass isn’t the problem i personally dont have a problem with them i bought the them for Batman and Star Wars but if i wanted i could have just bought the DLC i wanted holding all DLC to ransom behind a season pass is not something we want other companies to pick up on and start to do themselves we’re not picking on Nintendo if any other company did this our reaction would be the same you saw what happened with COD MW remastered

  • BaleonRosen

    Looking forward to this one, but I probably won’t get it until later in the year seeing as the Switch launch and BotW are very close to it. Shame too, because I was looking forward to getting this on release, but, well, Zelda is coming out and I’m a fan boy.

  • Jeffrey B

    can i turn off that godawful Quest Marker?

  • George

    Good morning Jim!!

    Nice bit of reading while I had my morning tea before work.

    <3

  • Willard Gilchrist

    I wish it was out on PC

    • MJC

      Me too. Console sales are a one and done deal. Publishers make more money on the sale of games, so it makes sense for Sony to put the game on PC too. It opens up the game to a larger market of potential buyers which means they sell more copies and make more money. And for people unwilling to game on PC, it’s still only on PS4 in the console space so they still have their precious “exclusive” to lord over Switch and Xbox One.

      Microsoft has been doing it for their games now and even though I haven’t turned on my Xbox in a while, it’s been fantastic playing games like Gears of War 4 at the performance I want instead of the performance the developer dictated because they wanted nice graphics for the trailers.

      • Coxy

        it’s obvious why they make it console only though mate – if you want to play it – you have to buy the console too and buy into their eco system. It doesn’t make sense for sony to release it on PC at all

        • MJC

          I literally just explained why it makes perfect sense. Replying by saying the exact thing I already addressed doesn’t help you out at all. You buy the “console too” and that’s one static purchase. Then they rely on game sales to make the rest of their money. And they would likely make more on game sales by selling on PC too and getting money from people who are NEVER going to buy the console than they would from the few people who cave and buy a console (assuming they buy a new one and don’t save money by getting a cheap used one).

          Sony even recently made their PS Now service on PC, so they know as well as Microsoft and as well as I do that offering their products and services to PC only opens them up to making more money. They get sales from PC gamers too while still holding an “exclusive” in the console space.

          • Coxy

            No I still don’t agree. It doesn’t make sense at all. Yes they might get extra game sales on PC – but they would rather force you to buy into their eco system and thus get more money that way. I see what you’re saying – but I just don’t agree. Releasing their games on PC does not make sense to me.

          • molamolacolacake

            I generally agree. However, it makes some sense for Sony to bring games to PC is well after the initial launch of the game. Once it’s sold some consoles and sales are down on the console, then from their perspective they could get some extra cash from PC gamers–but only if they think the extra development costs for a PC version are worth
            the return.

            Of course, once they do that predictably they might lose playstation sales from the more patient PC owners.

          • William Jones

            I think the other factor is in how long they can wield the position they have in the market – making games is risky, backing that business model up with a leading position in the market makes that very much less risky, and leads to vastly increased profits.

            Sony is two terrible decisions away from becoming Microsoft, 4 from becoming Nintendo, and say, 8 from becoming Sega. Not having any pure exclusives may well just turn out to be one of those bad decisions so, why rock the boat.

            I am of course playing devils advocate, and wish that exclusives were timed at best, but I can understand the decisions made.

          • Alex James

            I don’t think you understand. Exclusives like this tempt people to buy a PS4. Sony then make money on 3rd party games like COD, FIFA, Destiny etc. If they released game on PC, everyone would have a PC, so Sony wouldn’t make as much money overall.

        • GamingSage

          its the same as nintendo they would make more money if come to pc but they sure as hell wont cause it will make their system pointless

      • Scottface

        Because PS4 exclusives are usually just that – PS4 exclusives – they now have their ” their precious “exclusive” to lord over Switch and Xbox One…” and they can “Lord it over” you PC dicks as well – stop whining because it’s not being made for your precious system and buy the system it’s on.

        You just said it – you haven’t turned on your Xbox one in a while – why would sony invalidate their own system like MS have – why even keep ya xbone if all the games are on your super-PC anyway? Xbox got no exclusives any more – trade it in for a PS4 or a pro, problem solved…

    • Leah

      I hate exclusivity, but I can’t deny it works. The combination of Uncharted 4, FFXV, Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, Last of Us 2, Red Dead 2, and Ratchet and Clank are the reason I bought a PS4, despite being a PC gamer through and through.

    • MiKKKro$oft Bu$hitller

      It doesn’t belong on PC. Keep that casual AAA Hollywood slop the fuck off my platform where games with depth and integrity belong.

  • MJC

    Wow. Sounds like the only problem with this game is that it comes out 3 days before the Nintendo Switch and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. So I’m going to have to pass on Horizon for the time being.

    I just hope Nintendo doesn’t make me regret that decision.

  • MrFreemantle

    Fuck sake Jim, I was already excited for this game, now I’m sat here eating breakfast with my wife and fantasising about fucking up giant robot dinosaurs in all the ways you’ve just described. With 9 days to wait……. =/

  • Syndrake

    I’m really happy! I’ve been keeping an eye on this game.

    I just wish I could play it. Sigh.

  • igrozor

    Well, I want to trust this review.
    Preordered, Jim.

  • Jason B. Gebhart

    WHY CAN’T THIS BE ON PC?!

    • 09philj

      Because Sony needs to give people a reason to buy their box.

    • lomsha

      Looool

    • G4MR

      probably because the engine is new and tailored towards the ps4 would be my guess. That and $ony. I’d assume newer games coming off this engine may support pc in the future though.

    • MiKKKro$oft Bu$hitller

      Because it’s boneheaded casual AAA mediocrity that doesn’t belong on a platform that strives for something better.

  • Jason

    First Nioh (and Bloodborne), now this… I got a gaming PC instead of delving into current consoles and the PS4 seems determined to make me regret it. The more really interesting games that catch my attention are all exclusives.

    I hate exclusives.

    • guitboxgeek

      I hope this comes out on PC, honestly. Same with Nioh. I love Nioh to death, and I’m super psyched for this game, too; but, both games (all games, really) will rock on a good PC.

      • lomsha

        It never will, stop hoping.

      • Papacheeks

        NI-OH will most def be on PC and I think within this year or early next year. But to me with all teh different resolutions and frame rates to choose from on PS4/PS4 PRO feels like a PC version is on the ….Horizon.

        No way on Horizon being though as studio is owned by Sony.

    • G4MR

      I bought a PS4 last year just for this game and 2017 is looking bright.

      • Jason

        I’m still paying off the computer parts on my credit card. For me it really is one single thing to play games on- and mods won me over to PC.
        This is a big part of why I hate exclusives. If you have disposable money you’re fine- the people cut off from interesting games are those like myself, who simply can’t reasonably afford more than one machine. Hooray! One more shit thing about being poor!

        Ahem. Done ranting.

        • Kev’ Bryant

          The other thing is having nothing but dirt and worms for lunch.

  • Francesco Kasta

    Damn, that would definitely look fatntastic on a PC in ultra wide resolution!
    But then again, if it weren’t a PS4 exclusive, it would probably be an half assed port anyway.

    • MeriwetherMalodor

      Even a half assed port on PC is far better than a console exclusive 🙂

      • Francesco Kasta

        Software and hardware exclusives fragment the market and hurt the consumers but so do bad ports.

        • MeriwetherMalodor

          I kinda disagree with the latter, because even bad PC ports are usually better than the original console version. Take Dark Souls for example, look at what modding has added to it that console players will never have access to.

          • Francesco Kasta

            Yeah, you have got a valid point there.

  • Alan John Griffith

    Jim, could you expand on what aspect of the game is like Mass Effect? You mention it in both lists of influences but I don’t see anything specific in the review. Thanks.

    • The way NPCs are spoken to, dialog options, and some quest structures echo BioWare games.

      • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

        Can you fuck them like in mass effect? Or even men on robot action if not you should take away at least 7 points

        • BAH!

          I’m not sure where robo-bestiality falls on the scale of popular demand.

          • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

            Look at the fleshlight sales

          • BAH!

            I’m going to hazard a guess that human-to-animal replica ratio is pretty high in favor of human.

            Could be wrong, though.

      • Alan John Griffith

        Thanks!

  • StonerMk2

    Pre-ordered the collectors edition back in August or September. Saw a few videos and whatnot and just had a gut feeling that this was/is going to be a fantastic game. Ive never really been a big fan of Killzone but i respect the developers behind the games and i know the Killzone games did a lot of good for the people who played them. Glad to see my gut was right…now just gotta wait for next Tuesday when i get the game, and my awesome Aloy statue.

    • JDIncinerator

      Do you get many collector’s editions? Is there any real worth to them?

      • StonerMk2

        This would be the first one ive ever bought. As far as worth i guess it just depends on if you value the little trinkets they tend to give you. Ive always wanted some of the cool little things most provide, like the dragon statue that came with the Skyrim one.

  • chozohybrid

    Hi Jim, did you play it on a regular PS4? Was there any noticeable performance issues?

    • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

      I dont think he did because he bought a 4k tv especially for hes ps4 pro

  • guitboxgeek

    Great review, as always, Jim. Game sounds like it’s gonna be dynamite!

  • RotwangRevived

    Preordered on Amazon you glorious bastard. I hope you are proud of yourself for convincing me to get this.

  • MeriwetherMalodor

    This needs to be on PC.

    • Alex James

      No it doesn’t. Sony has paid for this game to be made.

      If anything, you need to get a PS4…

      • MeriwetherMalodor

        Nope. Exclusives are anti-consumer bullshit. They need to port it to PC.

        • wendel

          but they don’t need to be pro-consumers,unfortunately… capitalism bro

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            It’s their loss, bro.

          • Siema

            So far, it seems it’s YOUR loss. Enjoy your salt while we enjoy the game, bruh.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            It’s Sony’s loss, though. Millions of customers on PC that they could’ve had.

          • dddd1212

            You make it sound like Sony needs your money, guess what, they don’t. They are doing fine not porting their exclusives to other platforms.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            Actually, they do need my money. They can’t survive if they keep doing their little exclusives. It’s not sustainable. PC is where the money is at.

          • BAH!

            Except it’s really not. For any given multiplat title, PC is usually less than 20% of the sales.

            That said, I do understand your point. Sony would be very smart to port this to PC eventually. It’s not a shit-load of money they’re missing out on, but it is likely a worthwhile amount.

          • Uldi

            Then the question becomes: Do those sales outweigh the cost of the port? It would be several million dollars at least. Then there is the one issue PC-exclusive gamers tend to gloss over: reliability. How many times have we seen PC games work fine on one rig, but fail on another? Come to think of it, when was the last time a PC game was released that didn’t have a noticeable number of players talking about running into major issues of performance? I can’t recall off-hand.

            The one advantage that consoles have over PC is that all PS4s (for example) use the same hardware, from the same manufacturer, as every other PS4. PCs are all over the place, and it’s damn hard to cover even most hardware configurations. In fact, they don’t. From what I understand, they simulate hardware using a handful of high-end computers. That isn’t necessary with a console.

          • BAH!

            I genuinely doubt it would cost “several million dollars”. Also, that’s why they have the “recommended specs”, so that customers know if their rigs are up to snuff.

            Also, there are not major disparities between, say, two different nVidia cards, or two different AMD processors- within a reasonable time or release. So there are actually fewer variables to contend with than it seems. And since the tech tends to be fully compatible in *most* ways, the optimization problem is not nearly as great as it should be. The Steam Wizard Durante has proven this.

            Though he might also be a literal genius savant.

            Point being, the cost and effort required for making a good PC port is almost definitely worth it. At the very worst, they might break even.

          • Uldi

            But what about the variances in RAM and CPU? Or RAM, CPU, Motherboard, and g-card? There are issues there, and they do play a big part in whether a game runs as it should. It’s not just GPU that determines if a game runs well or not.

            I’ll also point out that plenty of people more than met the recommended specs for Arkham Knight, and it still ran like shit on their rig even while others had few problems at all.

            And I’m sticking with several million for a AAA game unless someone can provide proof that it isn’t. PS4 is quite a bit different than a PC. PCs use DirectX, but what does the PS4 use for example. Just that difference alone affects a game’s engine; to the point that it might have to be completely rebuilt to run with DirectX. On a game that probably cost $50-$75 million to make, I think several million to create a quality port is reasonable.

          • BAH!

            Keep in mind the number of rigs Arkham Knight ran well on were very small in comparison to the ones it didn’t. That was a matter of a shitty optimization job being done by a company that was not familiar with PC as a development platform. Literally. And I can promise that WB did not put millions into the porting of Shadow of Mordor or Mad Max.

            Fair point in that it might be optimized for the PS4, but the differences between the consoles and PC are not nearly so great as they used to be, either. What’s more, the goal is not mo make it run well on “every conceivable permutation”, but, rather, to make it run well on the most common and realistic ones.

            For example, people are likely not going to be mixing AMD and nVidia parts. If you go nVidia, you’re probably going to have an Intel CPU. If you go Radeon, you’re probably going to have an AMD CPU. Etc, etc.

          • Uldi

            Performance-wise, the differences aren’t that big, but my understanding is that consoles do not use the same type of hardware that PCs do. You can’t take out PS4 RAM and use it in your computer, or vise versa.

            My point is that there are far more permutations of possible problems with PCs than with consoles, and trying to solve even the most common would cost Sony more money than solving that same issue on console.

            I mean, most publishers ask for a DXDIAG.txt so that they can help with a technical issue on PC. Something like that isn’t needed for a console.

          • Uldi

            “Sony PlayStation 4 sales rise to 53.4 million after holiday boost”

            Yup, they’re really suffering now. Just another decade, and they’ll certainly be thinking about PC sales. /s

            I’m tired of the ‘Bring it to PC’ complaints. You want it on PC? Then create a company that will do so, and offer to pay the millions of dollars that it will cost to port it. Assuming Sony is willing to forego potential console sales, of course.

          • greyXstar

            No one needs to create a company a company that will put games on console as well as PC. One already exists. And the longer Microsoft does it, the worse Sony will look.

          • Uldi

            Have you seen the MS Store and the numerous issues it has? Not to mention the frequent performance problems that PC editions have that the Xbox versions don’t (see: Quantum Break).

            And let’s not ignore that even MS PC ported games are still designed primarily for console, such as the recently released Halo Wars 2. Radial interfaces, a god-awful key binding menu (is there even a key that ISN’T already bound by default?), and other issues due to the demand that the game be playable with a controller.

            So no, MS isn’t making Sony look bad. It’s only making itself look bad.

          • greyXstar

            I didn’t claim they were doing it perfectly, but they’re giving an option. Options are good. I do editing work that can’t be done on a console, so it’s nice to have everything I do on one machine.

          • lomsha

            They’ve always done exclusive, that’s what differentiates every platform. What would be the point if every game is on every platform. And millions of sale on pc? Please.

          • Fireking Axilotl

            “They can’t survive”

            Matey, they have been surviving for decades with this model.

            Last I checked you weren’t decrying PC having exclusives.

            Please come down from your little PC Master Race pedestal. No one is impressed and anti-console crying is so petulant and sad anymore.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            They used to survive, not anymore. Haven’t you heard? PS4 and Xbone sales have been terrible. These “next gen” systems have already reached the end of their life cycle. Sony is working on the PS5. In a couple of years they’ll make you buy the next one, and then the next one. The time of consoles is over. The console exclusive business model isn’t sustainable.

          • Soul Less

            PS4 sales terrible? ROFL, delusional.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            “SONY ADDS $200M IN EXPECTED LOSSES DESPITE PS4 SUCCESS”

            “Sale of PC business and shrinking demand for physical media responsible.”

            The PS4 is dead. This game is one of the last if not the last PS4 exclusives you’re gonna get. Get out your wallet for the “new and improved” PS5.

          • Jeff Masser

            Sorry guy. I’ve owned PCs and every console since the 2600.

            Consoles are where it’s at.

          • Mark Felser

            except most multiplatform releases sell about 2 thirds of their units on consoles.

          • Siema

            Sorry to burst your bubble, but it doesn’t work that way. If anything, it will be more PS4 and PS4pro console sales on top of the game itself when people get finally tilted by this game. Believe it or not, this is how the world looks like.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            Nobody will get “finally tilted” by this game. Sony is missing out on millions of potential sales. That’s people who want this game, but only play on PC and will never get a console.

          • Grim Fees

            Pretty sure Sony doesn’t make money off of console sales, just game sales, so…

          • Mark Felser

            except most multiplatform releases sell about 2 thirds on consoles.

    • lomsha

      Never lol, get a ps4.

      • MeriwetherMalodor

        Never gonna happen. The PS4 is a garbage system.

        • TristanPR77

          And yet here you are begging for its games.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            What games? I can count the PS4’s good exclusive titles on one hand. It’s a wasteland. It has almost no games that aren’t already on PC.

          • Soul Less

            lol whatever makes you sleep at night. I have both, being an idiot sucks man.

        • Soul Less

          You’re an idiot, it’s ok, you are not alone.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            Yes, luckily there are people like you, showing what total idiots are like.

          • BAH!

            You’re not doing much better.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            Thanks. You’re not too far behind!

        • Federico Astica

          Being a PC gamer since 1993, I have both a gaming PC (i7, 16GB RAM, GTX1080) and a PS4. Thankfully I’m no a “PC master race” elitist and aside from my PC games I can also enjoy PS4 games like this one, the Uncharted series, Final Fantasy XV, Bloodborne, Disgaea 5, Ratchet & Clank, The Last Guardian, The Last of Us, etc.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            I would also like to enjoy those games! Except some console master race elitists at Sony arbitrarily decided that I should not be able to because I have a PC. This makes me sad.

          • Federico Astica

            Sony is the game’s publisher. You know, they put money to make the game, so that wasn’t an arbitrary choice.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            Choosing not to port a game to the number one gaming platform when you easily could is always a bizarrely arbitrary choice. And it’s anti-consumer.

          • Federico Astica

            God, it’s not an “bizarrely arbitrary choice” and is not “anti-consumer”. It’s Sony giving money to Guerilla (a developer that always worked with Sony) to develop a game for their console. It’s like saying that Blizzard is anti-consumer because they didn’t released WoW on consoles.

            Also, games are not easily ported to PC. Just think that you have to adapt the game to run well on thousands of different hardware configurations. Also, adapting the game to run on mouse and keyboard is not easy task. When you port a game the easy way you end up with a port like Batman Arkham Knight.

    • Jeffrey B

      you can wait for PS Now,

      • Federico Astica

        No thanks. Playing a shitty streamed version at 1080p doesn’t compare to playing native at higher resolutions.

  • BILL STACK

    Sounds like exactly the kind of game I like to get lost in.

  • vonSanneck

    Another game to compare H:ZD to is Darksiders, a sum of its parts giving a unique entety.

  • MrSmithdaman

    yeah, that’s it, next paycheck i am buying a PS4

  • jayjay

    Yakuza 0
    Nioh
    Horizon-zero-dawn
    Can’t wait to see jim’s game of the year.

    • Alex Olinkiewicz

      Don’t forget soon will have PERSONA FUCKING FIVE!!

    • JDIncinerator

      As long as they don’t contain microtransactions the game’s will be fine. I’m also allergic to nuts.

  • Alex Olinkiewicz

    GOD DAMN what a year this is already turning out be for video games (especially PlayStation). January has given me 4 great games, and February gave me NIOH and soon HORIZON…. So far it’s safe to say that 2017 is most likely this gens 2007.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/15388a59cb58c33d2e8619a134375cdd07de4b9cee07f06082fc8701b15a6b83.jpg

    • Morgoth

      I’m tempted to buy RE7, but knowing Capcom…Surely they’ll drop a “GOTY edition” or whatever later. I’m torn.

      • Fireking Axilotl

        It was a bloody great game, and probably the best in the entire franchise

        • Papacheeks

          All we need now is a new Dino Crisis!

          COME ON CAPCOM!!!!

    • JDIncinerator

      2017 will have to maintain quality if it wants to come close to matching 2015 let alone beat it.

      • Alex Olinkiewicz

        2015 was good, but I don’t think it was amazing compared to the first 2 mouths of 2017, but thats my opinion.

        • JDIncinerator

          Fair enough but if Yakuza 0, Tales of Berseria, Gravity Rush 2, Nioh, Horizon: Zero Dawn and Resident Evil 7 can trump Bloodborne, The Witcher 3, MGS V: The Phantom Pain, Fallout 4, Rocket League and Until Dawn- then maybe this year is going to be special.

          • Alex Olinkiewicz

            Yeah, fucking love Bloodborne and Until Dawn, but that was pretty much it for me that is.

          • Papacheeks

            Your forgetting Gran turismo sport, Persona 5 , Zelda, Mario, CRACK DOWN 3, Sea of thieves, Mass effect and Destiny 2 are all this year.

            Oh yea and if it holds it’s date, you’ll see Red dead 2 this fall.

          • JDIncinerator

            I’m talking about the first two months of this year and comparing it to the entirety of 2015, if you read the comments above you would know that.

          • Papacheeks

            Yea I read your response wrong. The person before you was saying first 2 months in 2017 are better than the entire year of 2015, which is just not true.

            But I would say if the pace of quality releases holds 2017 will easily beat 2015, and 2016. And that’s coming from an Uncharted and Witcher fan.

    • Cheesy12

      Hey come on man, you need to update with a new picture :^)

      • Alex Olinkiewicz

        Lol. yeah I should

    • Travis Touchdown

      The year that brings gaming to a new low?

      Maybe!

    • SirAngry

      Early 2017 the PS4 appears to be hitting it out the park so to speak. We’ve got Nier and Persona 5 to come too. You’re right 2017 could turn out to be a real classic.

  • greyXstar

    Sony needs to figure out how to put their stuff on PC.

    • Fireking Axilotl

      Lawl, no.

    • MeriwetherMalodor

      Yeah. Sad to see games with potential, dead on arrival on inferior systems like the PS4.

      • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

        Its not inferior if it got the best games 😉

        • MeriwetherMalodor

          Uh-uh. Have fun with your three games.

          • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

            Have fun with greenlight million games

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            You…you do realize that Steam has other games besides those that come from Greenlight? Just checking to make sure you’re not totally stupid.

          • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

            I know but those are the exclusive you get on pc 😉

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            Bzzzzt. Wrong. The top sellers list is always full of PC exclusives, most of which aren’t greenlight titles.

          • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

            Pffff like what?

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            Don’t play dumb. Look at it.

          • Michael Blub

            PC fanboys D: Just stay quiet, you’re embarrassing yourself!

          • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

            I did look at it you’ve got no ground to stand on lol check mate i guess

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            Get your eyes checked, mate 🙂

          • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

            You’re really bad at arguing dude i ask you a question and then follow with nah you’re just blind lol come on

          • Uldi

            Nope. According to Fortune, their Top Ten for 2016 were ALL multiplatform. PC exclusives didn’t even break Metro’s Top 50 for 2016. Several console exclusives did, though. You should get out of that PC bubble. No matter what certain PC-loving YTers say, consoles are still the dominant gaming platform.

            I’d post links, but I’m pretty sure Jim has post containing those auto-filtered.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            One look at the Steam top sellers list proves you wrong, though, so you’re wasting your time.

          • BAH!

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b3f95864bbbc89101b07c85708820d0f5fce4aeda06a20bd6a304674a627cd97.png It’s at this point I’m no longer sure whether you’re a genuine PC fanboy or a troll…

          • Uldi

            The first PC-exclusive on that list isn’t until Total War: Warhammer at #12.

          • BAH!

            I’m not really sure what the criteria is, though. The places change up between “global” and “more top sellers”. Is the latter just for North America, maybe?

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            What is this screenshot supposed to prove? Dany was mistakenly claiming that the exclusives you get on Steam are greenlight games. That’s false.

          • BAH!

            “Bzzzzt. Wrong. The top sellers list is always full of PC exclusives, most of which aren’t greenlight titles.”

            You were certainly half right, in that they’re not Greenlight titles. But the top-seller list is “full” of multiplat titles, not PC exclusives. At least, not until you start moving well down the list; and I imagine that model is going to be true for all platforms.

            Stop saying stupid things.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            You’ve taken one screenshot on a single day of just the first 10 games and you think it represents Steam in general. Who’s the one saying stupid things? 🙂

          • Uldi
          • MeriwetherMalodor

            You’re totally confused. Read the top of the thread to see what we’re discussing. None of these are greenlight games.

          • Uldi

            You can’t even keep up with your own bullshit now.

            I quote: “The top sellers list is always full of PC exclusives, most of which aren’t greenlight titles.”

            BAH! and myself are taking exception to that first part, “The top sellers list [of Steam] is always full of PC exclusives…” This is demonstrably untrue. Steam’s Top Sellers list is usually full of multiplatform titles.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            You’re great at cherry picking quotes, but this is not what we’re talking about. Dany mistakenly thought PC exclusives are all Greenlight titles: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/10b1f642ae0c93e353f9bea1c346e5ee42549fb46cde8c53a6074b2b554083c3.jpg

          • Uldi

            But you then take it further by claiming (erroneously) that Steam’s best sellers are non-Greenlight PC exclusives. They aren’t. I didn’t cherry pick anything.

            If you wanted to counter the Greenlight claim, it should be, “The top selling PC-exclusive titles on Steam aren’t from Greenlight.”

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            You cherry picked just the first page on a single day. This doesn’t help your case. There are thousands of great PC exclusives on Steam that you’ll never get to play on console (don’t get me wrong, I wish everyone could play all games on as many systems as possible). And Steam’s best sellers are indeed mostly non-Greenlight exclusives, this is true.

          • Uldi

            Again, I didn’t cheery pick a single day, I posted a pick for the entire damn year of 2016. Thanks for playing.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            Nope. You missed the point and lied. Better luck next time.

          • BAH!

            They’re top sellers, and they’re all multiplat. Somehow I doubt the scene will change much next year.

          • Uldi

            Of course it is. Steam is a PC exclusive store. That’s like arguing that the top selling games are PS4 games based on Playstation Store sales.

            But the fact is, those PC exclusives don’t even get into a Top 50 in sales outside of Steam.

          • Jonathan Snyder

            Actually its 8.

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            Oh wow lol that’s totally worth it then! 8 games, amazing! Never before has a game system had 8 good games on it.

          • Jonathan Snyder

            Wow, pc players really are dumb little boys. lol

          • MeriwetherMalodor

            At least we’ve got more than 8 games, unlike you stupid PSfail fanboys 🙂

    • Soul Less

      You can get a ps4 for $200, if you are too cheap too bad stop whining.

      • greyXstar

        Let me know when I can edit photos and video with a ps4

        • Terriosaurus Hex

          Funnily enough you can, actually, though on a basic level. Still wouldn’t recommend it over dedicated software.

    • Kevin Wilson

      I get the argument for wanting all titles on your particular platform, but why would you expect a company to shoot itself in the foot and give you a free game they have invested loads of money in.

      Guerrilla games were backed by Sony from the start. Invested heavily in, because they seen the talent and backed them with hard cash to make games for their system, in a similar way to Naughty Dog. This has resulted in them having the backing to make good games. It would be incredibly dumb to hand over your investment to a rival platform

  • Fireking Axilotl

    -Reads the comments
    -Most are: “I wish it were on PC” / “Hope it comes to PC”

    PC ‘Master Race’

    • SWJS

      -Spends $700 on a ‘PS4 killer’ build
      -Cries salty tears when they can’t afford a PS4 for a really good exclusive

      Can anyone say ‘Hoist By Their Own Petard?’

  • Shaiapouf

    HER NAME IS ALOY. LIKE A METAL ALLOY. ITS A PUN! BECAUSE OF ALL THE MACHINES!

    I was wary about the game though, since at first glance it really does just look like…another open world game really. But it sounds like it could be interesting actually. But hot damn are there too many games coming out I’m actually interested in, or sitting in my backlog.

  • Dragons Advocate

    It’s Enslaved: Odyssey to the West.

    • Jeff Masser

      Thank You, I’ve been waiting for something comparable (or way better than) to that game for years!!

      To know I’m getting it, finally, with a slew of other “cool shit” makes me very happy that we will all be playing this in a week (at midnight if you pre-load).

      • sunbro72

        I also enjoyed Enslaved a lot, this looks like a spiritual sucessor of sorts.

    • sunbro72

      If I’m not mistaken, Enslaved’s environment artist worked on this game.

  • jonowee

    The last E3 did deflate some of the keenest I had from the years before, I worried that the Ubisoft open world checklist would bite. What a score, well done Guerilla, enjoy yourselves PS4 users. I guess I can make do with Witcher 3 without the robot animals on PC.

  • MyBodyIsReady

    PS4 is actually kicking ass these days

    • Wellsy487

      I know. I’m so glad I picked it over Xbone.

      • Chris Jones

        Ps4 has so many more options than xbox though. Xbox doesn’t come out with many new titles…they lean heavily on Halo and Gears of War. Don’t see how you can like xbox better…but that’s your opinion.

        • Chris Jones

          Sorry I read your comment wrong lol

    • JDIncinerator

      These days? Since when has it not kicked ass? Maybe the launch perhaps.

  • Ian McGreal

    I never had any doubts that this game would be dull. Gonna Hunt me a tyrannobot

  • Holotoast

    Gotta love console players in the comment shitting on anyone wishing this game would be on PC
    Nobody insulted your system kids, they just wish that futuristic Shadow Of Mordor was on theirs

    • BAH!

      It is humorously cringey just how aggressive some people are being.

    • Soul Less

      Then buy a PS4? If yuo choose not to buy a $200 system thats on you. Stop whining.

      • Holotoast

        Thank you for proving my point

        • NerdAndANoob

          It’s like they get pissed of it isn’t only theirs. Look I have both ps4 and pc. I’d prefer it on pc but id not sneer at playing it on ps4. I mean it’s awesome when pc exclusives get ported to consoles more games for everyone. The it’s mine and no one else should have it shot is getting old on every side

      • MeriwetherMalodor

        Why the hell woud someone pay 200$ to play one good game? That’s a waste of money better spent on the system they already have. Also it costs a lot more than 200$ in most countries. Costs 400 euros where I’m from. That much for access to a handful of exclusives? Nah, I’ll pass. It’s Sony’s loss.

    • Soul Less

      This game is not much like mordor..at all. Jims review should tell you that much.

    • I certainly won’t insult consoles, but I WOULD love and prefer if this were on PC. I have a gaming PC and haven’t owned a console in years. That’s just my preference and don’t hold anything against console players because there are many really solid console-only games.

      I wouldn’t buy a new console for just one game, but there are a few others on the way that I’m interested in. When those ones release, I may finally break down and get a PS4.

  • Jochem Sev

    Wow, there are still publishers that are willing to give Jim a copy?

    • sagelobu

      i think so. Some might even use his scores in ads the way bloodborne did.

  • Soul Less

    If I had an xbox I would sell it at this point, the PS4 lineup is embarrassing MS.

    • JDIncinerator

      It’s a no contest because Microsoft’s shredding up money and snorting it while SONY does what great, dedicated console makers do-give us a litany of top-drawer titles.

      • TaraMayB

        Completely agree. In just the past two months we’ve had Yakuza 0, Nioh, Tales of Berseria, and Horizon coming out next week, plus (hopefully) Persona 5 in April. It’s been a good start this year for PS4 owners. That’s also not counting the multiplat releases like RE7 and Mass Effect Andromeda next month. Hope to see that trend towards damn fine games continue (though not just for the PS4, everybody needs some good games).

        • Uldi

          I’m looking forward to that Spiderman game, and the Final Fantasy VII remake.

        • SirAngry

          Don’t forget Gravity Rush 2, not everyone’s cup of tea, but still a very good and unique game. There’s also Nier on the way. The PS4 and Sony are playing a blinder in early 2017, with the chance that there God of War 4, and maybe even Days Gone to come towards the end of the year.

    • I think it’s starting to get there. I wouldn’t buy a console for just one game, but there are a few PS4 exclusives in the pipeline that interest me. Three in particular for me: Horizon, God of War, and the new Spider-Man.

  • JDIncinerator

    Describing Horizon: Zero Dawn as “cool shit” basically means it’s a decent kind of excrement whatever that’s supposed to mean. I guess it means Jim can’t find a more appropriate way to describe the experience, so saying simple words everyone can relate to is his only way of saying buy this game when it’s released because it has robot dinosaurs in it.

    • Soul Less

      Take a pill and go to sleep for fuck sakes.

      • JDIncinerator

        Oh you Americans are asleep at this hour-nice to know.

    • Terriosaurus Hex

      It would be for somebody who didn’t read the rest of the review, yes.

    • ConnorWasHere

      “I guess it means Jim can’t find a more appropriate way to describe the experience”
      Oh i’m sorry, did you miss the entire essay above that last line that details exactly why Jim gave this game that particular score?

  • UnbeatableSG

    Any plans for a jimpressions video soon? Or is video content embargoed?

  • BAH!

    Welp, you gone and inadvertently started a moronic war between console and PC players, Jim.

    Are you happy? Hare you happy, Jim?

    • Jonathan Snyder

      The war has been going on for ages.

      • BAH!

        Yeah, but you don’t see it very often on this particular site.

  • Terriosaurus Hex

    Am glad this has turned out well. Loved the themes involved instantly. I must get around to actually completing Killstone: shadow fall, uhmm eventually.
    Are you allowed to upload Jimpressions of this one yet?
    Also am curious how the normal PS4 handles the game, but don’t want to disappoint myself with a side by side comparison either. :/

    Wait, this was an exclusive?? I didn’t even know that! Holy shit, Sony…Slow down, bruv!

  • I haven’t bought a PS4 yet, largely because there were few – if any – exclusives that interested me. (Before you mention it, Bloodborne holds no interest for me because I’m not a fan of Dark Souls or similar games)

    But this was one of the make-or-break games for me. It was an exclusive that immediately appealed to me. I can’t afford it right now because I’m on a limited income, but Horizon definitely has my wanting to buy a PS4. But I don’t want to buy a whole new console just for one game.

    I’m still waiting for three other games that interest me particularly: the new God of War, the new Spider-Man, and Red Dead Redemption 2. RDR2 for obvious reasons. God of War because I’ve enjoyed the previous GoW games and the new one looks promising. And Spider-Man because it’s about damn time we get a new, good, open-world Spidey game.

    • ipitydafool

      It’s worth it just for Uncharted 4.

      • GUN®

        I’d add Until Dawn, Ratchet and Clank and I know it’s cool to hate on but I enjoyed The Order too (and it’s definitely worth it for the cheap price it often is on PSN).

      • That’s one I might get eventually, if I can get it on a good discount (or if it’s in a bundle). I like the Uncharted games, I’m not a big enough fan of the series to pay full price for it.

    • galactix100

      I’m in the same camp. Now the price has dropped I’m gonna pick up a PS4 since it now has some games that actually interest me.

      • Same. Once I get some income going (that’s a long story), I’ll probably get a Slim myself. I don’t have a 4K TV, so have no need for that.

        • galactix100

          I’m going with a basic PS4, don’t care about 4K and it won’t hammer my budget in the same way as a slim or pro.

  • Canneddirt

    I assume Jim played this on a PS4 Pro. I wonder how that experience will compare to the one we poor schlubs will have on a vanilla PS4?

  • Shaamaan

    Just to point out… this got a better final score than the original Witcher 3 review.

    This has me scratching my head for so many reasons…

    • Jason M

      You’re aware that they are not the same game, right? Different developer, story, setting, systems and everything else but a similarity in genre.

      • Shaamaan

        Again, I’m not one to fixate on review scores, but both games ARE open-world sandbox games where you get to play as a predefined protagonist, so a quick score comparison jumps at me almost instantly.

        I’m not expecting all games from the same genre to have identical scores, of course. Perhaps a better question would have been “is this really better than the Witcher 3?”…

        • Uldi

          Well, in one way it could be argued to be better than Witcher 3: it’s a brand new IP.

          • Shaamaan

            Very true. I’m not trying to say that The Witcher 3 is some holy grail of perfection that can never be surpassed. It’s just that, reading the review, it… didn’t seem that way. When reading the review I sort of expected a 7, or strong 8. Then a 9.5 score jumps at me, and I begin to wonder.

            Damn, here’s me “not fixating on review scores”… >_<

          • rllintrllin

            The story is actually really good. Guerilla Games hired the writing team from Fallout New Vegas and hired the quest designers from CDProjectRed. You’e making a lot of assumptions just because it’s an “open world game”

          • Shaamaan

            I sure am, true. I feel Jim could write a lot more about the story in his review. I’m sort of pre-programmed with the notion that open-world sandbox games, generally, suck. That the quests are repetitive, the story is bland. I guess it’s primarily thanks to all the Ubisoft games…. Obviously there are exceptions (this? Witcher 3?), that’s why I’m primarily surprised when one shows up.

          • Terriosaurus Hex

            In a sense, this world has a lot more mystery and beautiful sci-fi merged with nature imagery. I think revealing any story so ahead of release would be doing the consumers a disservice in their initial experience.
            Plus Geralt is boring as fuck. And adult medievil fantasy land is fairly stale by now. As good as the Witcher 3 is, it certainly doesn’t feel as fresh as this title for exploration, and allegedly the combat too.

          • GUN®

            I love Witcher 3 but it’s not without its issues. For a long time it was quite buggy, I found the story really dragged once I hit Novigrad (but picked up again later) and combat is a bit meh. Also I haven’t play Horizon because it’s not out for another week or so.

            Therefore I am not too shocked to see it outscore it. I mean, robot dinosaurs bro.

          • Uldi

            If I recall correctly, Witcher 3 did have some serious issues at launch, particularly on consoles. I seem to remember screen shots of heads and bodies getting separated and other graphical glitches. Even the PC version had a few. They were corrected, but it was at least a week later, and subsequent problems surfaced with some of the free DLC too.

          • galactix100

            How does this being a new IP make it better than Witcher 3? Recore was a new IP but wasn’t better than Metroid. The Order 1886 was a new IP but was crap compared to a myriad of other third person shooters.

          • Uldi

            Sequel fatigue. Some people are a bit tired of nothing bu sequels. And it’s not just because it’s a new IP, but in conjunction with everything else. It’s a great open world game AND it’s a new IP. That little bit extra might help bump up it’s score.

          • galactix100

            Jim’s review listed off all the ways in which this game is exactly like loads of others out there already. Other than the game having a different name and setting it’s no different to those games. Therefor it’s as good as a sequel because it’s just another one. Sequel fatigue doesn’t occur because the same names keep getting new releases, it happens because they do little to change the formula or innovate e.g. Assassin’s Creed, CoD, FIFA.

        • rllintrllin

          “both games ARE open-world sandbox games where you get to play as a predefined protagonist, so a quick score comparison jumps at me almost instantly.” —- why? that’s such a broad requisite to begin with

          Gameplay wise, yes, And it’s not even close.

          • rllintrllin

            And Witcher 3 isn’t a “sandbox” Skyrim or Bethesda games are considered sandboxes

          • Shaamaan

            It isn’t? 😮

            What is it then?

          • BAH!

            Well, it’s definitely “san xbox”, being a PS4 exclusive.

          • Shaamaan

            😀

          • Shaamaan

            Wait… this is PS4 exclusive? Well, I’m out. Here I was hoping I’d get to check it out on the PC. 😐

            Fuck exclusives! >:-(

          • BAH!

            I’ve been thinking about what defines “sandbox”, and I haven’t been able to come up with a solid answer- especially since it shares characteristics with what one would consider “open world”.

          • Toby Rawal

            I define “Sandbox” as being a game where you can kind of do whatever you want with very ambiguous gameplay mechanics – for example, you can play around with all the vehicles and physics in GTA wherever you want in the world, and make them do whatever you want. Basically a playground.
            HZD for me is “Open world”, whereby there is no linear pathway and you can freely explore the area in any order you want, however you can only do what the game needs you to do. Basically limitless freedom vs limited freedom. Either way, from what I’ve seen all over the place and from Jim, HZD’s predefined gameplay is amazing and diverse enough to not feel restricted and can keep you coming back for hours. Can’t wait for it to finally release!!

        • Amer1ka

          Do you like playing as a mostly scorned at human with magic/potion enhanced abilities where virtually everything is super gritty and seedy with melee heavy combat? Or do you like more ranged combat fighting giant ass robots where you can approach each fight completely differently that has a more straight forward story that doesn’t swing towards being an RPG?

          On the surface they are similar. But, also, most sporting games that were played on foot were called “football” (which is why so many different sports use that name). That doesn’t make them very comparable other than the basics.

          For Jim this game was better than The Witcher 3. For me I think it might be too as it’s more focused and I think I’ll enjoy the combat more. That doesn’t mean I dislike The Witcher 3 at all..it just means I might like playing this game more. But, we’ll see when I actually get to play it haha.

          Anyway, I hope you get the point I was trying to make. Comparing games can only go so far unless they are mechanically and narratively almost virtually identical. Which The Witcher 3 and HZD are most definitely not.

    • Blake

      The Witcher “3”, that sounds like an awfully original title.

    • Brandon Mack

      Reviewer tastes are different and those scores show. Think about how much Jim loves The DW games and gives them high praise. Others feel very different. Also that review is only to THAT game it is not mean to compare it as better than or worse than. The talk about this on the podcast.

    • Hoxton

      In my opinion The Witcher is shit. Lovely looking game, interesting story, titties, but combat not seen since 2005. That’s my opinion. It will be different from yours and different from Jim’s. Don’t be ‘baffled’, people have different opinions on all sorts of things, not just videogames. I hope that helps.

    • Soul Less

      Whats so hard to undersatand? TW3 is already grossly overrated, it’s not a sacred cow, Horizons gameplay will be leagues better, so depending on whats more important to a gamer, gameplay or story, many will prefer Horizon.

  • JeronimoPW

    Jim is the best reviewer. He knows games like no one else.

  • Casepb

    So it’s the same old game you’ve played before. But it’s very well done and a joy to play. Definitely could be worse.

  • Thomas Neo Anderson

    Glad it lived up to your expectations. Lets face it it could have easily gone the wrong way, this dev’s last game wasnt exactly a classic, and being such a huge departure from what they’re used to it could have been a mess of bad mechanics and half baked ideas. Glad it isnt. Will be buying it once its released, as i refuse to pre-order anything anymore. That culture can go fuck itself.

  • Kang_81

    Fuck yeah, Singularity was amazing!

    I’m so pissed Raven’s talent is being wasted on helping with CoD. I want them to work other stuff again. Two of my favorite shooters of last gen were by Raven, Wolfenstein and Singularity.

    I’m super excited to get some hands on time with Horizon.

  • Polishfury5000

    Man, it’s been one hell of a polarizing month for PlayStation. We’ve seen the flood gates burst open with a slew of shitty greenlight games hitting the ps4, while getting bad ass exclusives at the same time.

    Very excited to play through Horizon once my backlog clears a bit, which may be a while. Hoping to get Nioh finished before the Berserk game (another solid exclusive) drops next week.

    On a side note, I’m so happy people remember Singularity. It’s on my personal list of one of the better games of last gen. So much fun, and brilliantly paced. For anyone who missed it the first time, drop $5 and grab a used copy, such a lovely underrated gem of a fps.

  • Chumunga64

    “Man what a positive review, let me hop into the comments section to see what other people think about the review or the game”

    *sees a ton of comments about PC portbegging, PS4 vs. PC debates, and people not understanding that the point of exclusives is to buy a specific console*

    • GUN®

      If people are port begging for this or complaining about exclusivity, they don’t understand that this game wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t an exclusive. Sony/MS/Nintendo, they all put their own money into these games, it’s perfectly reasonable for them to only release these game on their own platforms. Don’t act so entitled.

      • Chumunga64

        Dude, I’m agreeing with you

        • Kevin Wilson

          You’re the kind of level-headed PC-only player that I wish this game was made available to just for being that, A level-headed, realist.

          Speaking about being a kid. I remember having a Sega when I was little, and having to go to my friends house to play MarioKart because my parents would never buy me 2 consoles. I remember having a PS1 and arguing with my friends about how it was better than the N64, secretly wishing I could play Goldeneye and Zelda but NEVER moaning about it, I just swapped consoles for a week. I worked all summer with my granda when I was 14 to save up for my first PC in 1999, the whole time realising I needed to buy it if I wanted to play PC games. I could go on and on but the point is this: Not everything in life is always available to everyone, sometimes you have to work for it. There’s no point wishing you had something that will NEVER be made available to your specific platform and crying about it.

          • Dennis Estebal

            Yes, I think gamers are less moany back then. Honestly, I don’t get begging for ports either. I mean, back in the day, Sega fans wouldn’t have whined about Mario or Metroid not being on the Megadrive and vice versa because that’s just how things are, even for PC. Some games get ported to PC and some don’t. Surely console folks back then didn’t whine about Fallout 2 or Planescape Torment not being on their systems. Maybe PC gamers back then were a little less obnoxious(?) or were less entitled than they are now? Back then PC gaming was somehow smaller and the people less zealous(?), We respected other peoples’ tastes in gaming platforms, surely I didn’t hear about a “PC Master race, Console peasant” labeling back then or heard someone comment “You suck cuz you game on the N64 or ps1, PC is way better etc”, we didn’t label others based on the platform they gamed on, we were less whiny about games, and basically we just enjoyed playing our Command and Conquers and our Neverwinter NIghts.

      • Kevin Wilson

        Don’t forget the people who actively supported Sony and Guerrilla Studios by buying the console and Killzone games, like me. My comment was partly fuelled by being ridiculed for liking those games and slagged off by other PC players.

        It’s the entitled nature of the comments that annoy me. of course I would like all gamers the chance to play a game. Just not the one’s who ridicule the very people who made this game possible in the first place.

        It’s like saying this “AW Sony is shit with their exclusive games, what a shit under powered console, PC is way better!, Killzone games are shit, get a PC……Waaagggghhhh, why is this not on PC”

        Boggles my mind people could be so dumb to not realise it’s because of Sony that this even exists

    • Benj

      I understand exactly why games are made as exclusives… but that has absolutely no impact on the fact that I wish I could play this game without buying a new system.

      As it happens, the list of PS4 exclusives that I want to play is so large now that I’m probably just going to have to suck it up and get one.

      • Mandrake42

        Yeah, I’ve about reached this point. I’ll probably invest when Read Dead 2 drops later this year.

  • Kevin Wilson

    As a PC and console player, it’s great to see PC fanboy’s crying over not getting to play a few PS4 exclusives.

    I have never owned Nintendo or Xbox but I don’t spend my time crying about not getting to play their exclusives. Entitled bunch of baby’s.

    • Reclusiarch Reclu

      Why wanting a game to be available to a broader audience qualifies the same as “entitled”?

      • gigantor21

        Because in this case it makes absolutely no sense. Sony has no incentive to put it’s first party games on PC, any more than Nintendo would.

        Now if we were talking about Microsoft, then I could understand.

        • Reclusiarch Reclu

          Microsoft should be nuked (not literally) for not completely releasing the Halo franchise on PC, damn, I still play Combat Evolved once per year more or less and wanted to finish the story arc (which means 3)…

          Back to discussion: yeah, I get that they founded the game, but looking at it from an artistic perspective, it’s rubbish; any artist wants to show their piece to as many people as possible, and by limiting it’s reach with exclusivity, that’s denied (by artists in this case I refer to the devs).

          I hate exclusivity when it’s not logical because of, say, technological capabilities that a system has that the others don’t: the original Wii had a very unique controller system, and games NEEDED to be developed for that system. Looking at Xbox/PS (from last and current gen) they aren’t doing anything that pc’s can’t.

          Anyway, that’s me and my reasons, hope to have been clear in my explanation.

          • GUN®

            ” but looking at it from an artistic perspective, it’s rubbish; any artist wants to show their piece to as many people as possible”

            If this was true, the artists/devs at Guerilla Games would have quit, went independent and made Horizon by themselves (which likely wouldn’t have been nearly as well made, would have gotten a low score, and you wouldn’t want it on PC).

            They knew when they made this game it was only going to be on Playstations platforms, and I’d be surprised if they weren’t happy with the idea of Aloy being a new mascot for PlayStation, joining Kratos and Drake.

          • Reclusiarch Reclu

            The thing with the gaming industry is that to have the resources to make a game of yours, to give your vision life, you need resources, like, lots of them if your scope is very broad (technologically). Sony gives them that, at the cost that I already stated.

            Besides, I never saw or heard of an artist saying “I want actively to limit who can have access to my works”, but the contrary? yeap, heard it a lot of times.

          • GUN®

            I agree with your first paragraph and as a gamer this is something I understood when I made my choice to pick PS4 as my platform this gen. I had to accept that I wouldn’t get Dead Rising 3/4 or Halo 5 and I did, and I was fine with it. Of course there is nothing stopping me from buying an Xbox or PC rig to play those if I want to badly enough, I made that choice, nobody else’s fault.

            “Besides, I never saw or heard of an artist saying “I want actively to limit who can have access to my works””

            I dunno man, I hear a lot of independent and 3rd party devs, as well as movie makes and musical artists don’t take kindly to piracy.

          • Reclusiarch Reclu

            Sorry, but exposing your art piece (I’m not talking exclusively of games or movies) to as many people as possible, doesn’t mean “to gift it” (or “yeah, pirate it lads n’ gals”): painters, illustrators, writers… those want their works to be appreciated, to be shown to the public. Sure, there are artists that live of the art they make, but I’m pretty sure that no writer will limit his book to a specific eBook store, they’ll try to publish it in as many places as possible.

          • GUN®

            Your words were:

            “Besides, I never saw or heard of an artist saying “I want actively to limit who can have access to my works”

            Charging for your art, like it or not, does limit who can have access to it.

            “I’m pretty sure that no writer will limit his book to a specific eBook store”

            Apples to Oranges again. Comparing games to other media is not the best idea. Look at you eBook for example, the author only needs his laptop and his imagination to write that book. He does not need millions of dollars from the eBook manufactures just as eBook manufacturers do not need to employee certain authors in order to sell exclusive books. These are different industries and they work differently.

          • Reclusiarch Reclu

            Yeah, I should have worded my argument better. Sure they’ll charge for their work, I’m not against that at all in fact. And charging for your art limits who will have access to it, totally, but I meant to say “don’t limit it even further”.
            I get your position though, maybe I’m just an idealist, an art lover that wants everyone to enjoy it whenever it’s possible (not promoting piracy, let’s be clear on that).

          • GUN®

            No worries dude. Nice having a reasonable debate on the internet.

          • ATBro

            There are a ton of books that are exclusive to a single eReader. It’s all up to the publisher and who they have deals with.

          • Papacheeks

            There is no way if GG was indie they could afford to make this game let alone have the giant PR campaign Sony put up with this.

            If there was a way you would see more AAA style games from indie developers on pc.

          • ATBro

            Never mind that if Sony wasn’t footing the bill, then they wouldn’t be making the game. Sony gets the final “OK” on what those guys end up making.

          • galactix100

            I wouldn’t be shocked if Halo ended up on PC. Basically every other MS exclusive is now, even Gears and Forza which are up there with Halo as xbox system sellers.

          • ATBro

            That’s your mistake. You’re looking at games as they are art. They aren’t art. They are entertainment products. They do have artistic merit, but they aren’t artistic products. This isn’t like selling prints of a painting.

          • Papacheeks

            Geurilla Games is owned by Sony, and Sony saw so much potential in this they PUT shit load of money behind it. Something that wouldn’t have happened if GG was indie. This got as much if not more campaign power from SONY as UNCHARTED 4. That’s how confident in this game Sony was.

      • Kevin Wilson

        But it’s not is it. I never see these people asking for Zelda to be available on PS4 or Xbox. It’s always THEIR platform that all games should be available on…

        It’s like wanting HBO shows (that they payed for) to be made available on all networks. Just stupid

        • ATBro

          I want Zelda to be on Playstation, but that’s because I don’t want to buy a Wii U or a Switch (I’m also not delusional or narcissistic to think that they should put it there just because I want it). I’ve also been saying for years that Nintendo would benefit from going 3rd party.

          • Kevin Wilson

            I wanted Zelda on the PS1 back in the day. But I only liked Goldeneye, Mariokart and Zelda and didn’t think it was worth it to get an N64, so I borrowed an N64 and played them any way lol

            I don’t think you’re wrong. I believe Nintendo would be just fine doing their DS handheld games and making their IP’s available to everyone. You would be talking about at least 4 guaranteed sellers on the level of GTA. A billion turnover for every release

          • Ax Crazy

            That’s… questionable.

      • GUN®

        This game is available for anybody to buy because PS4s are available for anybody to buy.

        This is where ‘entitled’ comes in, you just want it on your platform of choice. Never mind the argument that if exclusives are made multiplatform that their quality could suffer as a result.

    • gigantor21

      I wanted to play PS4 exclusives, too…so I bought a PS4 Pro.

      They need to put up or shut up.

    • Nada Namae

      No, you spend your time virtue signaling about how spiteful you are, wasting everyone’s time with console war garbage and fellating the hardware manufacturers for a practice that’s only useful for them.

      Instead you should really look up how contractions work.

      • Kevin Wilson

        hahaha yeah, I’m so spiteful.

        Console war garbage? I never spoke anything relating to console wars.

        I just understand how business’ work, and how you don’t invest in something to then give it for free to your competitors. I also understand that in life, you don’t always get everything you want without having to pay for it.

      • GUN®

        I think the guy you were replying to was being needlessly petty about it but I just wanted to point out this:

        “and fellating the hardware manufacturers for a practice that’s only useful for them.”

        Keep in mind that, in this case, Sony are not just hardware manufacturers, they own Guerilla Games, so Horizon is their game, they made it. So putting it that way your comment comes across as something like

        ‘how dare they benefit from they games that they themselves created’.

        • TaraMayB

          Right…my way of viewing that though has always been that Sony also owns a film production company, but they don’t restrict bluray or digital viewings of films they made to just Sony TVs or Bluray players. They want as wide of an audience as possible to be able to purchase and use their products. Why are games this weird exception to that standard when it comes to entertainment?

          • GUN®

            You’re talking about apples to oranges there. You have to take into account that the console industry and the dvd/blu ray player industry are very different beasts, not to mention the fact that it’s much more costly (and not just in terms of money) to make a game multiplatform than it is to make a movie play on every dvd player, if it runs on one dvd player it’ll run on them all, it’s not like that with games.

            Simply put it would hurt Sony to make their movies exclusive to their own players/TVs it’d fail, consumers just wouldn’t put up with it because there’s no precedent, there’s too many players involved and it’d just be a huge mess. But it works for gaming.

          • ATBro

            There are a few reasons. Movies are a significantly more universal medium. Limiting their sales (which is beginning to be less and less of an issue and physical media is less and less viable) to specific devices wouldn’t make any sense financially.

            More importantly than that, is the way in which console holders (traditionally) make the majority of their money. The most lucrative aspect of a console holder’s business is in licensing. The fees that companies like EA and Activision pay to Sony or MS to have their games on the consoles. The more consoles that are in homes means more money from these companies. First Party exclusives are what the console makers provide to differentiate themselves to hopefully gain a larger audience, resulting in more money coming in from third parties as well.

            Sony understands this and has used it as a core tenet to their business, more so than MS or Nintendo. This is why you see them making games that have a more limited appeal, than say MS. Games like The Last Guardian and Gravity Rush 2, aren’t going to set the world on fire, and they may take a loss on them, but they will draw in a different segment of the audience, who are then there to buy more games resulting in more money from 3rd parties.

            And that is the economics of 1st party exclusives.

    • Orphansmith

      Someone sounds bitter that they aren’t able to afford a decent gaming PC and so are stuck with a single console. And smug that they made the obvious and safe choice by getting a PS4.

      Pardon me as I go back to playing my PC games. I suppose I’ll pull the old PS4 out for this like I did with FFXV, unless the Switch turns up anything really cool as well. Man it’s fun when I can be an ass to everyone, instead of being a troll who can only be a prick once every few months.

      • Kevin Wilson

        UH….”AS A PC AND CONSOLE PLAYER”

        I’ve built 4 gaming rigs in the last 15 years. I got my first PC in 1999 and have always owned both a PS and PC since then

        • Bird Religion

          So you are just an asshole for not wanting other gamer’s to be able to play a game?

          • GUN®

            But anyone can get this game. Nobody will stop you from walking into Gamestop and picking up a copy. Anybody can also buy a PS4 the same way.

          • Kevin Wilson

            A voice of reason… I feel like these people live in a fantasy world where everything is available to everyone for free

          • ATBro

            I think you hit on it. He’s not able to pirate it, so he’s super pissed.

          • Kevin Wilson

            No. I’m just a realist that has gamed for 25 years and never been able to play any game he wanted without buying the correct system and the game itself. But keep on your pointless crusade to moan about exclusive games and wanting everything on one platform.

          • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

            Wow, you are kind of a psychopath aren’t you? I’m loving these PlayStation exclusives. Perhaps you should grow up and just buy a PlayStation to play them.

      • ATBro

        And he’s the bitter one?

        Seeing as how you have it so fucking great, it begs the question: “Why are you here, on a page for a PS4 exclusive review?” I would think you have better things to do, like fiddle with graphics settings or deleting .ini files.

    • Maxx Kilbride

      I’m abit confused, why would you want to keep any games from any gamer?

      • Jokerman89

        Always my position… i never celebrated this exclusive shit, even though i am primarily a PS4 player… id love PC/xbox gamers to get to play games like this, Bloodborne, Uncharted

        • galactix100

          Same here. Always thought it’s bullshit that picking one means missing out on a bunch of great stuff no matter what.

          • Kevin Wilson

            Such is life. You don’t get Netflix when you buy Amazon either. You don’t get a muffin with your coffee and you don’t get to watch 2 films when you buy 1 ticket at the cinema

          • Austin_sj

            I always get a muffin with my coffee as part of the deal.

      • Kevin Wilson

        Oh I don’t want to keep them from any gamer. Just the fanboy’s that ridicule other gamers platforms, and then cry about not getting a game on their platform.

        Fair enough if you believe ALL games should be made available to everyone. It’s a futile, hypothetical, pointless desire but hey-ho. From what I have seen online, I don’t see PC gamers wanting Xbox on PS4, vice-versa, Nintendo on Xbox etc etc It’s only everything should be on theirs. It’s a selfish and entitled attitude in my opinion.

        I believe if you want something you should pay for it. There’s enough games on all platforms to keep people happy. I’m just sick of the comments being filled with crying, man children about not getting an exclusive game. Grow up I say, I’ve lived my entire life not being able to afford and hyave everything I want, PC & PS4 is plenty for me any way. This game wouldn’t even exist if it wasn’t for people like me supporting Sony and buying all the Killzone games. These people contributed nothing

    • Brandon Mack

      And with all the excellent PC only, multplatiform titles and better deals PC gamers have nothing to complain about. PC is good

      • Kevin Wilson

        exactly. They already boast that PC is better in every way. You’d think they would be happy the console peasants would at least have a few good exclusive titles, nope, they want them as well

      • ATBro

        PC is great, but damn, Sony has a lot of great games that I would not be happy about missing out on.

        • Brandon Mack

          I planned ahead because I KNEW there would be a title that smacks me in the face ans says “FOOL NOW IS THE TIME TO BUY A CONSOLE” This generation that game is Bloodborne/Nioh” Last generation that game was “Demons Souls”

          • Lindsey Stewart

            Im still suspect of this game but its basically a zelda clone,

            heres my proof
            There is dungeons in horizon called “cauldrons” i found this out thanks to a gameranx video on YouTube, cauldrons are where the mechanical sauropods are built,

            link moderator is not helping

            But its 10 things you need to know about horizon zero dawn

          • Brandon Mack

            If that’s true then I’m sold thanks for the info

          • Devon

            Why are you constantly whining about this game being a “Zelda clone” in every thread when the only evidence you have is that it has dungeons with puzzle solving in it? A lot of fucking games have that, it doesn’t make them “Zelda clones!” Is God of War a Zelda clone, is Prince of Persia a Zelda clone, is fucking Ninja Gaiden a Zelda clone? No? Then this isn’t either and if does play like Zelda then I’ll probably enjoy it because I love Zelda and Zelda type games!

    • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

      I too love it. That’s why IMO the true “Master Race” is PC/PS4 combo. You can play every single game there is outside of Nintendo exclusives (as all Xbox exclusives are now also on PC, not just most of them).

      But it’s funny when there are excellent games like this and they are like ? WTF, I can’t play this!?

      Then it’s….oh it’s not that good.

      • Kevin Wilson

        I’ve had a PC/PS combo since 1999 and have never felt like I’ve missed out on anything.

        I have actively supported Sony/Guerrilla studios by buying the console and the Killzone games. So I’m happy my support has resulted in this great game being made.

        I have also taken a lot of flak from PC-only players for liking Sony and the Killzone games specifically. It’s funny to me now to see those very same type of people moaning because they can’t play a game that reviewed well.

        So yeah. Call me an asshole or anti-consumer. I just don’t want the people who have ridiculed me, consoles, Sony etc to get to play this game. Because if they had their way, it wouldn’t exist

        • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

          I 100% agree. The PC only snobs really don’t make any sense to me. They are only limiting themselves.

          I’m also 100% like you except that I have also had all the Nintendo consoles. I’ve never needed Xbox and as a PC gamer I only miss out on a couple of titles and do not feel that I’m really missing anything.

          Well, I’ll tell you my friend. After all the 180’s Xbox did 3 years ago which included actually trying to make xbox live valuable and got rid of that paywall to the internet browser and basic apps like Netflix I decided that I would give them a chance and got an Xbox one this last Christmas.

          I’ve got to say….it wasn’t worth it. At least not yet. Halo, the pride and joy of the Xbox exclusive collection has really disappointed me. The story is weak and very predictable and the gameplay is linear has hell. There’s some fun to be had on it, I’m not trying to just dis the xbox but as a PC/PS gamer like myself I just wanted to say that adding the xbone to my collection hasn’t been that amazing.

          Have a great one dude. What a great gaming website I stumbled upon.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            As a halo fan who uses xbox as well as steam but owns a ps4pro and owns Nintendo, i have to agree that the current state of halo is pretty dire and its trajectory makes me worried about the ip’s future.

            Classic halo needs to be reattempted but i want halo 6 to conclude this saga. So i want classic halo as a spinoff minimal risk to the brand and is encumbent on the classic halo fans to support 343 just need to make a game that feels like halo 3 ultimately be it the anniversary of halo 3 or whatever, this will be the best bet to revive halo.

        • Papacheeks

          The PC people will shut up once Death Stranding has a PC release, and looks fucking GOD LIKE with Decinima engine cranked in 4k.

          Which btw is GG’s engine from Horizon, Until Dawn.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            Im not even caring about engines hell the breath of the wild engine is very natural.

        • Lindsey Stewart

          Nah, your just brave much like how i dont subscribe to a reigning group think.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        Imo its pc/Nintendo most of PS4 IS ON steam and xbox is mostly pc.

        • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

          I guess you are entitled to your opinion.

          I couldn’t live without the major exclusives PlayStation has and their free exclusive content in AAA multiplats.

          Nintendo has had a drought of games the last couple of years. The only thing they even had at E3 this year was Zelda. While if you own a PC/PS4 you can literally play every single game shown at E3.

          I love my WiiU but I play it more as a family platform than a personal one. Nintendo land, New Super Mario Bros, Mario 3D World, Mario Kart and such. With the exception of my classics of course, I play a lot of NES, SNES, Genesis & arcade games on my WiiU.

          But you are missing out on so much if you are saying Nintendo/PC.

          Horizon Zero Dawn
          Bloodborne
          Uncharted
          The Order
          Ratchet & Clank
          Until Dawn
          Little Big Planet
          MLB The Show
          Killzone
          Infamous
          Driveclub
          Drawn to Death
          Detroit
          Dreams
          Hellblade
          The Last Guardian
          Days Gone
          Spiderman
          Nioh
          Nier Automata
          The Last of Us
          Gran Turismo
          God of War

          Just to name a few.

          Oh also you miss out on games like Destiny with only having PC/Nintendo. In addition PC always gets GTA about a year late and didn’t even get Red Dead Redemption. Here’s to hoping Red Dead 2 comes to PC this time!

  • SilentPony

    Huzzah! A game that may actually be worthy full price! Its a Jimmas miracle!

  • Maxx Kilbride

    Jim, by comparing it to Singularity, you may have sold me on this game. I too, love that game, and am shocked it’s not a classic title loved by all.

  • Benj

    So after the last month of two it looks like I’m just gonna have to suck it and buy a PS4.

  • Brandon Mack

    And after seeing the releases this year I am glad I waiting and didn’t get hyped for that PS4 when it came it years ago. Now is the time to buy. Following the formula of PC and one console for exclusive titles.

    • GUN®

      Wise choice. 3 years into a console’s life seems to be the golden period to buy one, only rarely is there a reason to buy a console at launch. I can only think of N64 for Mario 64. I’d consider adding Switch for Zelda, but I don’t know if that counts as it’s on Wii U too, plus we don’t even know how good it is yet.

      • Brandon Mack

        Exactly and all the multiplatform and PC only game (like CRPGs) I go straight to pc. People had years to save for a console.

        • GUN®

          True, although now that you mention it, I’d be slightly worried if I was a PC only gamer and wanted RDR2, hope it’s like GTA V and it comes out later and not like RDR1 where it doesn’t come out at all.

          • Brandon Mack

            They still won’t give a good reason for not releasing RDR1 on PC.

          • GUN®

            Yeah, it was a strange one. Maybe the guys in San Diego just don’t like PC.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            Never played red dead redemption.

          • GUN®

            One of my favourites of all time.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        Switch versions of Zelda has sold out on amazon, take that what you will.

        • GUN®

          I’m not worried about it selling.

        • drownedsummer

          Well there is only one reason Nintendo hasn’t supplied enough units to meet demand which has already been reported in places.

  • Thomas J Bithell

    Solid review. Jim is about the only critic that I actually trust as he seems very honest, genuine, and intelligent. When I entered into video game development one of the rules that I applied to the process was “make a game that you would be confident enough to have Jim Sterling review it”

    • Kevin Wilson

      Make games trying to appeal to one persons particular tastes….sounds like a bad way to apply yourself to your work.

      Try making a game that will push your limits as a developer, that YOU would want to play, and get this idea of appealing to Jim Sterling out of your head

      • Brotown

        Thomas’ motivations are his own. If he holds Jim’s standards as high and intends to meet them in whatever way he does, then what’s it matter to you? Case in point, if I ever found out Roy Khan likes my singing then I’d be thrilled.

        In summary: youre not part of the “Game Development Police Task Force” and dont be a jabroni

        • Kevin Wilson

          “Case in point, if I ever found out Roy Khan likes my singing then I’d be thrilled”

          That’s good that you would want to reach another singers high standards, and trying to create music and appeal to your favourite singer makes sense. However, a more applicable example in this case would be; “if I ever found out Simon Cowell likes my singing then I’d be thrilled”, why? because Simon Cowell is nothing more than a critic/judge with no talent for singing. The only people that want to meet his standards are sellouts and people wanting to appease him to make it in the shitty pop industry, people with no real passion for their art. Instead of trying to appease critics you should put your own passion into it and do it for yourself first.

          Maybe you think I’m being harsh. I thought I was giving good advice to not care what a single critic thinks, and do it because you like it and you have confidence in your own work.

        • Lindsey Stewart

          Actually i work for ONI.

    • Lindsey Stewart

      Not entirely good review it missed out the fact that there is puzzle game solving elements in dungeons, called “cauldrons”

      This mysteriously was not mentioned, only Gameranx did.

  • Shui Gor

    I didn’t think anyone remembers Singularity, but I love how you used that as a comparison with what Horizon is doing, Jim. Will pick it up at launch (fortunately, just platinum’d Nioh last night, so I can leave that be until the DLC in April).

    • Lindsey Stewart

      When i hear singularity i think Vanquished

  • Corey

    Sony….. wow

    I really hoped this would be amazing because of the delays. Looks like they were totally justified. I really cant wait for this because i have completed nioh

    • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

      Well, wasn’t it just one delay by like 4 months?

  • Imp Emissary

    This is some great news. I was worried they would stumble a bit with this game, but based on what Jim has said, Horizon: Zero Dawn sounds better than I hoped.

    Just 8 more days. <_:D

    • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

      I think this is a great direction for the studio. I’m really glad they gave this new title a chance.

    • ATBro

      Same here. I was worried it would be, like their other games, a great concept in an OK game.

    • Lindsey Stewart

      Spoilers, it has dungeons its not your typical action game, its more a lone of Zelda.

      • Imp Emissary

        Never played a Zelda game. They seem fun though.
        Dungeons are fun too, so long as they are well crafted.

  • I fell in love with this game from the first trailer.

    Now all I have to do is wait for them to inevitably decide to not keep it as a console exclusive, and release it on PC.

    • GUN®

      ” inevitably decide to not keep it as a console exclusive, and release it on PC.”

      I-is this a funny?

    • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

      ROFLMFAO, dude this is made by Guerrilla Games who is wholly owned by Sony. This is a PLAYSTATION EXCLUSIVE, not the “console exclusives” xbox has that are also on PC or the timed exclusives xbox has like Rise of the Tomb Raider that also comes to all platforms.

    • Kevin Wilson

      You’ll be waiting a long time….for a PS4 emulator and a PC capable of running said emulator

    • ATBro

      Do you know what “inevitable” means?

    • Alice

      Good luck with that. The developer is owned by Sony and Sony uses its developers to make games to sell their consoles. Not sure there has been a game made by a Sony developer that they put on PC. The reason you see MS do it is cause they own Windows and it works out for them either way.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        Besides it would devalue the worth of the Playstation 4.

  • HaveSomeOatmeal

    I. Cannot. Wait. To Play. This.

  • Hoxton

    Sony are killing it with exclusives right now. I just wish that Microsoft would take a chance and invest in something other than another Gears, Halo, Dead Rising or Forza. I know they tried with Quantum Break and Recore with mixed results, but that just doesn’t cut it. They’d better have something up their sleeves because who’s going to buy a Scorpio with nothing to play on it? I can’t even remember the last time I switched my Xbox One on.

    • BAH!

      Thing is, they have taken chances. ReCore, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Project Spark, and (sort of) Halo Wars 2, to name a few. The problem is not the lack of variety, the problem is the games aren’t doing well.

      • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

        They really have next to nothing when compared to PlayStation. I’m just talking about all the different exclusives in all the different genre’s. So many freaking games on PS4.

        • BAH!

          Sony is definitely doing quite well on that front, no denying it.

        • Lindsey Stewart

          Realistically only Nintendo has the platnium franchises to make sony cry, Microsoft comes no where close.

      • Hoxton

        So you think it’s more to do with the ‘fanbase’? Choosing to play safe games rather than maybe something niche?

        • BAH!

          They’re still making some effort (eg. Phantom Dust remaster), but I think at this point they’re spooked enough to focus on safer bets for a while.

          • Deathdeliverer

            Phantom dust isn’t a remaster at all. It’s a rerelease apparently.

          • BAH!

            Are they not doing anything to it? I figured at least a texture up-rez or something.

          • Deathdeliverer

            Nope. Not a damn thing. I think the most it’s getting is upscaling cause the XB1 does it natively

        • Papacheeks

          The issue is over the generations MS has changed their library and curated their audience to only be pumped for Forza, gears,halo, Fable.

          If they had diversified more in the early days they would have an audience that would be less programmed to certain games they produce.

          Same goes for Nintendo fans, which is something with SPlatoon, ARMS, W101 and the likes they have slowly been trying to change.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            Splatoon satisfied a niche that was not fully present on Nintendo systems since the Nintendo 64, mario kart crushes racing sims alike and Nintendo has made a 3d style fighting game with a twist, Nintendo has already don what sony is doing, not competing with itself, thats why paper mario rpg is no more in favor of mario Luigi RPG.

            Sony started this with closing evolution studios.
            Nintendo also owns part of square soft “monolith soft” known for Xeno series, baiten kaitos and a few other rpg under bandai. Sony could buy Square enix but that would be difficult just like Nintendo cannot buy capcom or Hudson soft either.

            Yes, sony has horizon but Nintendo has 30 years of the legend of Zelda.

            Admittedly sega has Valkyria Chronicles that tried to beat Fire emblem but that rest is history, as for Pokémon?

            (Maniacal laughing) only mario can beat pokemon, pokemon is mega huge!

          • Papacheeks

            Nice fanboy rant.

      • SirAngry

        @metroidkillah:disqus I happen to think you’re sort of right, I loved Sunset Overdrive and it just didn’t catch Xbox fans imagination, and while I don’t think Quantum Break wasn’t amazing, it was an OK game, but just didn’t catch Xbox fans ‘imaginations’. I think Microsoft have tried, but it just hasn’t paid off.

        • ATBro

          They have tried, and now it seems like they’ve given that up. Something tells me that they would drop Cuphead and Below if they thought the could get away with it.

          • SirAngry

            You know what @atbro:disqus, I think you might be right sadly. Seems to me that Microsoft’s fingers might have been burned once to often with trying for something new.

          • Papacheeks

            Issue is they are paying for exclusive games they dont own, and they don’t have any long lasting relationship with any of these developers they contracted make games with As seen with Ensemble studios in the past. If they had made these relationships early on in xbox 360 days they wouldn’t be in the position they are in.

            Look at how many reoccurring games Japanese exclusives there are for Sony. And most of them they don’t own the IP.

            Why?

            Because the developer knows that their game won’t get shoved somewhere on their store where no one can find it. They know Sony consoles sell in regions where their game will sell, and know that Sony’s history with Single player games is really good.

            MS had a weird relationship with Remedy, ALan wake took like 5 years to make, and QB had tons of shit changed the last year or production, and also the production house for the TV show as well.

            Remedy is a bad studio who can’t ship a game on time, MS should parted with them a long time ago or buy them so they could manage them properly.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            They either have no cards in their hand or to use a yugioh reference they are waiting for a gamechanger with Scorpio and while halo has sunk Microsoft needs a flagship product or the Nintendo switch will out sell xbox one.

        • Lindsey Stewart

          Quantum break was a niche audience,

          • SirAngry

            @lindsey_stewart:disqus maybe, I just get the feeling had it been on PS4 it would have reached a higher proportion of its installed user base. PS fans seem more willing to try out these so called ‘niche’ games. Although I’m not quite sure a third person cobver based shooter with fancy bullet time and a story is all that niche truth be told.

      • Jack Trevor

        You forget about the Windows Store and how they refuse to admit that it’s worth anything other than the bottom of a dustbin.

        • BAH!

          Fair point.

        • Lindsey Stewart

          Needs more mobile games,

      • Lies That Bind

        Sunset Overdrive was such great fun and it sold for shit all. I could understand if Insomniac wanted to not work with Xbox again.

        • Papacheeks

          But they did? Issue was sunset didn’t sell well because it was overshadowed by Titanfall’s PR campaign for one, and second insomniac’s contract was to own Sunset IP.

          MS want’ to own it. Why have them make the game, when after the game releases they can announce it for Steam or PS4? That’s a majority of the issue currently with a potential sequel.

          • Lies That Bind

            I thought Insomniac said that beside Microsoft being the only company that would let them own the IP, the Xbox was the only console that would run it?

          • Papacheeks

            You mean power wise? Because that’s a laugh. PS4 is 35-40% more powerful in it’s GPU, and Memory bandwidth compared the xbox currently even with the Xbox one S bump. Insomniac didn’t bring it to other platforms because MS paid them a decent amount for that title. And Insomniac still doesn’t have a lot of experience with PC development outside of that VR title, and the Deep Sea side scroller.

            I am unsure of the deal, if MS payed for development and within that contract Insomniac can’t bring it to other platforms unless they paid for it’s other release themselves.

          • Lies That Bind

            I didn’t really buy that either but I can’t find the article mentioning it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Microsoft made them agree to console exclusivity with the title though which is a shame considering I think the game would do well on other platforms

      • Uldi

        They’ve had interesting ideas, but the execution has been a bit lacking for some of them. I wonder why they just didn’t seem to grab anyone the way the recent PS4 exclusive titles have.

      • ATBro

        Even if all those games turned out stellar, they still wouldn’t really be enough. Personally, I think it’s a tonal problem. Everything is so one note and there is very little of the gaming spectrum that is covered by their games. There is nothing that caters to anything other than the “cool” or “grim-dark” demographic. There no whimsy, wonder, light-hearted humor, poignancy.

        • BAH!

          Sort of? Maybe? Ori and the Blind Forest strikes me as similar to what tou’re talking about. And then there’s the Rare Replay collection, which, while not new, does at least harken back to those times.

          There’s things. And stuff.

          • ATBro

            I’m just not sure how well those actually worked out for them because, they don’t seem to be looking to do any more of that. For whatever reason, those games didn’t set the world on fire, even when there are products of similarity, by other companies that seem to get all the praise (people fall all over themselves for a NES classic and I already forgot that Rare Replay was a thing, and what they are offering is incredibly similar). Also Ori had the aesthetic, but that game was hard core as fuck. It’s difficulty may have been it’s limiting factor.

          • BAH!

            I think you’re right about Ori. It suffered the same problem as Knack where it looked inviting, but promptly told you to fuck off.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            Nintendo fans dont own xbox one they own ps4.

          • BAH!

            Yeah, that is provably wrong. Like, the wrongest you can be.

            And it’s pretty obvious at this point you’re a Nintendo fanboy. Please top commenting. At all. You have no idea what you’re talking about- especially about Horizon being “BotW inspired”, and a “Zelda Clone”. Only an absolute idiot believes that.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            Thats because the rare replay was aimed at Nintendo fans on a non Nintendo console.

          • BAH!

            That… is a really interesting idea.

      • Papacheeks

        And outside of Sunset and Halo wars the rest were somewhat mediocre at best. But there was potential especially in Sunset Overdrive to become a series but MS has not contacted Insomniac in making another one because they want to own the IP and Insomniac doesn’t want them to. Those games are one and done, same went with Ryse MS actually wanted a sequel but somehow somebody wouldn’t play ball.

        There’s a reason Japanese studios are not lining up to work with them. They have made it clear they are a straight up american/western box. ANd if that is how they are viewed there’s only so much you can do. I always thought MS should have struck some kind of deal with Blizzard studios in having starcraft series, among other contracted games exclusive to xbox. Imagine xbox becoming the stright up PC console where you can play RTS games like Halo wars, starcraft. Also MS should have bought splintercell from Ubisoft.

        They just don’t care about making xbox be a stand out system with unique experiences you can’t get anywhere else. The PC anywhere initiative is a big joke. Gears 4, and Halo wars 2 are the only games that seem to not have as many issues as other releases.

        They need another studio to make western pc style RPG’S FOR THEM. Like Bioware use to before they got huge.

        • BAH!

          I really thought ReCore was great when it wasn’t shitting the bed, but you’re right. MS needs to put out way more effort- if not for them, then for the customer.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            What happened to recore?

          • BAH!

            Severe technical issues. I encountered a few in my own post-patch playthough (so I imagine it was even worse before), and one of them required four full exit/restart cycles before it fully fixed itself. I literally cannot describe what went wrong without writing an essay.

            Also, the loading times are strangely long- even for small environments.

          • Kev’ Bryant

            I passed due to it being on Games-for-Windows, or whatever it was. Looks right up my alley. Still salty. ;op

          • BAH!

            I absolutely do not blame you.

        • Kevin Wilson

          “MS should have struck some kind of deal with Blizzard studios in having starcraft series, among other contracted games exclusive to xbox. Imagine xbox becoming the stright up PC console where you can play RTS games like Halo wars, starcraft. Also MS should have bought splintercell from Ubisoft”

          There is just no way you could ever play Starcraft on an Xbox using a controller. Too much multi-management, 300 actions per minute. Halo Wars and Halo Wars 2 are casual RTS games, auto -attack, imprecise movement, basic grouping, basic base building etc etc RTS fans will always play on PC so I don’t think it would be a system seller or turn around the Xbox. The whole reason I bought a PC back in the day was for strategy games. I don’t think there will ever be a really good RTS game on a console….If you think Halo Wars is good then that’s another argument.

          • Papacheeks

            Then how did something like Halo wars get made by Ensemble studios? Who use to make the Age of Empires games. It can be done, and they could have sold a mouse keyboard branded xbox peripheral for those who prefer playing that way. Well hate to break this but Lost vikings, Diablo then Diablo 3 came onto console. They could have contracted blizzard to make a console version or struck some kind of deal and held engineer the xbox to support mouse and keyboard for certain games. It can be done, and Halo wars among other RTS games are played competitively on xbox.

            Your thinking only with a PC mind. Ensemble studios made a RTS game that was functional and playable with a controller in multiplayer. Blizzard would be able to slim some controls and stream line it if they wanted to for console. Not everyone bought Starcraft series to play online. I didn’t. They bought it to see where Jim’s story with Kerrigan went.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            One the game was released the ground work was set, halo wars is the most intuitive interface for console level rts like halo wars 2, i want more rts on console.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            I thought they could get ea to do a propper Cand C game like red alert or generals.

        • Christian Pohl

          A new MechWarrior would be nice too. The license gathers dust in MS’s vault, yet they don’t allow anyone to buy it.

          • Papacheeks

            Totally forgot about Mech warrior, and Grabbed by the Ghoolies sequel, another Fusion Frenzy, another Crimson Skies there’s lots they could revisit and do some cool things with. But they wont 🙁

        • Lindsey Stewart

          Sony is also shutting down studios plus XBOX is using scorpio to relaunch Halo again.

          • Papacheeks

            I know and it sucks. Especially GG Cambridge who have a lot of history same with Liverpool.

            Difference being even though SOny is at fault for pushing Liverpool to be this F1/Wipeout machine they gave them a choice and all the studio created in the later days was racing games.
            Cambridge is 100% the fault of Sony and it’s complete bullshit what happened. Those guys do more for other studios than so many.

      • wilMaster04

        their fanbase is dude bros..so..

      • Lindsey Stewart

        Halo wars was a surprise i also like that halo wars got remastered, damn the cutscenes are almost live action which works as a sci fi war drama.

    • Jack Trevor

      MS is trying as pointed out by others.

      I’d say their biggest problem is the Windows Store. AKA The best way to ensure your game is “dead on arrival”. For PC anyway.

    • Terriosaurus Hex

      Microsoft also has State of Decay and its’ sequel in the works. It’s probably just me, but that’s one of the few I actually still miss, as there remains no known imitation available so far. Le sigh.

      • Alice

        State of Decay 2 is the only game I’m really sad at not getting since I don’t have an Xbox one. Part of me hopes maybe one day the developer will get attracted by the large group of potential buyers ps4 has but I won’t count on it (I know they actually aren’t owned by Microsoft but have stated they prefer working with them and are fine doing exclusives for them). Unfortunately one game is not enough to get me to buy an Xbox.

        • Lindsey Stewart

          Never played the first one so im indifferent. Must be my status as a halo fan not an Xbox fan.

    • midknightblu

      They almost had something with Platinum I was actually looking forward to, perhaps even going to buy a bOne but… well that shit the bed and they have nothing else games wise… too bad.

      • Christian Pohl

        It’s even more baffling when you consider how far the game had come already. To axe it at the last moment? Just another weird move. To me, this gen’s Xbox will always be the OneEighty.

    • ATBro

      I remember when I turned my X1 on. It was last week. To watch the CW app.

    • Papacheeks

      The issue is Sony has a stable of relationships and studios with 2 to 3 teams each within each studio that they give creative freedom and have over the generations, Microsoft does not. They turned Blacktusk studios into a gears machine, same with Forza studios, and 343. Instead of giving them legs to grow outside of the franchises. It’s the soul reason Bungie ended their relationship after Halo reach, they wanted to make destiny, and they knew MS would just either not let them make it because of cost or try to own the IP like they did Halo.

      Xbox use to be about cool, expiermental games especially in the beginning of xbox and xb360. But the division was under different management then and they saw teh gaming division as only a way to sell services not be about gaming in general.

      That’s why Sony has such a huge history even before they made playstatoin in games and in making chips for people like Nintendo for the SNES.

      They made the audio chip for super nintendo if I remember right. MS is a husk of a division/brand that use to be about cool games that you could play on teh couch, or online with a friend. Now I look at them as the other box that makes games as a service type experiences.

      While Sony has always stayed true to what they are which is a game console for people to play great single player experiences or optional online games. The fact they greenlite Knack and Knack 2 along with another Ratchet and clank shows you how much the still instill their roots into their library. The fact we are getting revamped Loco Roco, Patapon, Parappa, and a Crash trilogy shows they are still making platormers for single player experiences, along with more adult themed games like HORIZON, UNCHARTED, Last of us, Days Gone.

      Xbox needs a reboot and I’m uncertain if Scorpio will be the answer, we’ll see I guess.

      • ATBro

        You bring up some strong points.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        But nintendo’s exclusives are coming back to settle the score starting with its big ticket ip The legend of Zelda at launch

        Just watch the next months it’ll be quite the show and sony will have problems, especially with a more powerful Nintendo brand than ever, nevertheless i wish Sony and horizon zero dawn good luck.

        • Ax Crazy

          There’s Zelda and… what else worth noting coming out in the next few months, again?

        • drownedsummer

          Yeah I think you might be vastly overestimating things regarding the Switch there.

        • keironsmith123

          and 14 days later and Horizon is No.1 at the UK charts with Zelda No.2. I hope and want Nintendo to do well but i have little faith in them because its Nintendo, sales are good now for Switch but at the moment hype is around and that does impact things (didn’t the Wii U do well at launch?), the question is will Switch continue to well in the months/years ahead?

  • All the stuff Jim lists as “really cool shit” is all more of the “not cool at all shit” for me. That’s all I needed. I think I’ll stick to indie games for the rest of 2017 and beyond.

    • theeheadache

      I am in this group also. Most of the things that Jim is impressed by are not things I am interested in right now. Maybe someday I’ll give it a go. Good review regardless of game.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        Its acceptable i guess, im sorta pissed that it was not talking about its Zelda traits.

    • Lindsey Stewart

      At least buy the original, The legend of Zelda breath of the wild, if you want a zelda experience always go with the real deal.

      • Rioplats

        Whilst BotW looks amazing, could you please stop touting it (and Zelda in general) as the main inspiration for all Open World games? You’re embarrassing the seminal franchise; not everything revolves around LoZ, and not every feature in gaming is a direct result of it.

        • Lindsey Stewart

          My issue is that reviews dont even acknowledge horizons inspiration especially zelda that redefined 3d adventure gaming and the nes zelda creating a 2d equivalent to a open world.
          Thats not to say there were the first games but well recognised

  • JoxerTM

    So Jim… This game is better than TW3 (you put 8.5/10 there)?
    Ah yeah, mechs are definetly a technical achievement compared with TW3 hairworks mobs. Death to anyone who dares to make furry hostiles!

  • Geraint Jones

    Made a new account just so I could post on this thread. Any game that has Singularity mentioned in it’s review is a must buy from me.

    I adored Singularity (one of the only 360 games I got all the trophies on) and it’s a real shame it didn’t do as well as it should of. A classic.

    I’ll be picking this up asap and all I’ll be thinking while I’m playing is ‘Thank God for Jim f***ing Sterling’.

    • Lindsey Stewart

      You are playing a zelda clone. You know that right?

      • Geraint Jones

        Yes I know that!

        I’ll also be playing Zelda whenever my Switch arrives on launch day.

        2 great games, what’s not to like? Life’s great!

      • drownedsummer

        And?

        • Lindsey Stewart

          Just thought you’d know.

      • thatdamnrat

        Iterative design is pretty common in gaming, and open worlds are the big thing at the moment. From what I know of Zelda (which I’ll grant you is not that much) the relationship between the two is less of clone and more that between an Australopithecus and a Homo Erectus (Zelda being the Australopithecus in this analogy). Just as you can trace a line from the original Doom, through to something like Halo, doesn’t mean that the more modern shooter doesn’t deserve to be played or reviewed on it’s own merits. The opening paragraph of Jim’s review spells it out, this game does nothing particularly new, but it does them well (in his estimation) and with an interesting backdrop. Please don’t be a blind fanboy, that attitude is what allows Nintendo to get away with the shit they pull to which Jim referred in the last Jimquisition.

        • Lindsey Stewart

          Your anology makes no sense, and while you claim zelda to be a primitive artform, you also ignore that until skyward sword, most developers were using the book that was rewritten by ocarina of time. Untill skyrim became the base for most rpgs, dark souls used the book established back in 1986 and merged it with the skyrim edition.

          Do you see how your analogy does not make sense or that it misses what is most likely happened.

          By an evolution standpoint yours makes sense but works of art follow a base, that base was established by zelda in 1998

          But what happened was that dark souls attempted to reimagine the homo australopithecus that is Zelda of the Nintendo entertainment system and made it popular.

          Simply put, zelda does not stay the same, it evolves.

          • thatdamnrat

            Just an aside, australopithecus is a genus, so Homo australopithecus, is technically incorrect, a species is homo or australopithecus not both.
            Like I say, I’m not super familiar with Zelda series, but if you’re claiming open world games of today are clones of ocarina of time, you’re the one who’s not making sense. This game is clearly much more aping Ubisoft’s template games than it. OF course Zelda games have evolved, but if you think it hasn’t been a two way street of other games influencing it again, you’re kidding yourself. Your initial comment seemed to be sour that someone might dare enjoy a game other than a Zelda

      • Nathan Aldana

        I mean. That didnt stop Darksiders from being fun games either, y’now?

  • Batmatt

    This game really got my interest a while back, but since I bought a PC and left my PS4 to dust the interest wore off. This review may have reignited it, though. I might just buy it and get my PS4 off the drawer and check it out, together with Nioh (wich I intended to give a pass, but since I’ll turn the console on anyways…). Goddamn console exclusives. This would be perfect on PC. :/

    • SirAngry

      I understand your feelings, but sadly without the backing of the console manufacturers many of these console exclusives simply wouldn’t get made, and I’d rather they get made than not.

      • Batmatt

        Yeah I know, this is true but at the same time sad. Both because such amazing games wouldn’t be made without manufacturers funding and because they remain exclusive sometimes forever.

        • SirAngry

          Thing is we often need console manufacturers to be the one’s taking these risks. They can do these sorts of thing. Third parties can’t take quite as many risks.

  • Brotown

    Metal is for everyone
    Stronger than the law…

    • Lindsey Stewart

      My guardians could wipe you out, (both Halo and Zelda)

  • Leah

    My internal problem right now: I know that reviews scores are not enough to base a purchase on, but when I do purchase games, I love going into them without any prior knowledge. So I can’t allow myself to read the review.

    • Brotown

      I’ll help ya Leah. Minus any give-aways but still hitting on Jim’s key points:

      This game took a lot of the better ideas of previous big name games released and made them even better.

      Open world game that feels worth while.

      Immersive.

      Graphics are impressive.

      Protagonist is very likeable.

      Lots of metal. New take on a world as opposed to your typical beasts.

      Hope this helps!

      • Leah

        It did help. I was on the fence after seeing the 9.5, but your comment has set my mind.

        • Brotown

          😉

          • YoDude

            Them some real standards. Money is expensive. I want this game too but I can’t buy a new game for two months due to my imposed budget lol.

        • ATBro

          On the fence at a 9.5!?! Thems some high assed standards.

          • Anton

            The number is meaningless without context.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            So far, Sonys Zelda is getting praise by reviewers who im suspicious of and the fact that they all dont mention The legend of Zelda at all is highly suspect.

            Especially when the first zelda game is the inspiration for many games (Dark souls) Horizon zero dawn also is inspired by Zelda, especially in the narrative and the exploration. But! Jims review doesn’t talk about Horizons dungeons, “Cauldrons”

            cannot be a Zelda clone without dungeons…

          • drownedsummer

            It isn’t suspect at all. They are actually allowed to review games without mentioning Zelda.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            Even though zelda wrote the same book horizon clearly is using
            plus the whole dungeons “cauldrons” is ommited.

          • Leah

            While I respect Jim’s verdicts (they’re one of the main reasons I preordered HZD), I know I have different opinions from him on some games. Sometimes he rates a game a 10 when I can’t stand it, and sometimes he rates a game a 3 or 4 when I would consider it a 10. So I can’t assume that I will always feel the same way about a game be gives a high score.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        No mention of the dungeons the cauldrons, this is supposed to be Sonys The legend of Zelda but the meat of Zelda is its dungeons jim just goes on about farcry bullshit and how (ubisoft) map towers are roaming brachiocoms meandering on a set path.

        Sorta disappointed that cauldrons were not given greater details.

  • Jack Trevor

    Here’s a question I have, as I don’t have a PS4 but is considering what with Nioh and Horizon catching my interest:

    Could I get games on a physical disk? And if so, is it really a disk or a code pretending to be one? Because fuck downloading anything via PSN.

    • Chicken008

      They are on discs (not disks), though there is usually a patch that you need to download.

    • Kevin Wilson

      If downloading is something of an issue with the PS. You can set it to stay connected to the internet even in rest mode. It’s effectively a standby mode. I’ve stayed up until 12:00 on release of games and started the D/L so it is installed and ready the next morning.

      I’d only imagine this being a problem for reviewers rushing to get their review out or impatient people. I downloaded 4.5gb in 45 mins the other day. Just put it in rest mode, had my tea and when I turned it on after the game was ready

    • SirAngry

      PSN download speeds to PS4 are quicker for me than Xbox Live downloads to Xbox One, and pretty much on a par with Steam. If you buy physical copies of games then there is usually an accompanying install to the HDD from the disk, but you can normally start playing the game before the full install happens. Honestly, I’ve been impressed with the PS4 ‘experience’. Just so much better in every way than the PS3. So I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

  • Jon Fishsticks

    So far every PS4 game I’ve been looking forward to has gotten great reviews, here’s to hoping more competent reviewers handle Nier than last time.

    • YoDude

      I mean this with no offemse against you. But. Who in the fuck cares what a gamr scores or what random critics say? You sound like you already decided to like the game.

      • Thomas

        Nier is a game with a cult following that most people didn’t play. Mediocre reviews are probably part of that.

        I feel the same way about Alpha Protocol. The bad reviews made it sound like shovelware, they didn’t recognise/explain that Alpha Protocol is one of the best games around _that plays and runs like shovelware_. Because of that it took me years to play it, and then when I did I immediately replayed it three times and put it towards the top of my favourite all-time games list.

      • Jon Fishsticks

        Unfortunately a shit load of people care about game reviews and largely mediocre to bad reviews can greatly impact sales, hence the studio that made Nier went under. Thankfully Taro has friends in high places.

  • Sperium3000

    I’m surprised you liked it that much. That one gameplay video with her climbing the huge giraffe-dinosaur-bot-thing and then it turns out it’s just a tower that expands the map killed whatever enthusiasm I had for this game.

    • diamond

      That seems like a silly reason.

      • Jean Grey

        no it isnt games w that feature all have terrible bland and repetitive “open” worlds.

        • Bill

          So Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild will have a terrible bland and repetitive “open” world

          • Feigndall

            Well, it could. The game isn’t out and what they’ve shown so far doesn’t look awfully impressive. People are just hyped because it’s the first truly open world Zelda game since Zelda 1. (If you don’t count Link Between World, I guess)

          • Jean Grey

            zelda has towers?

          • Bill

            Yep.

          • Bill

            Yes all the shit people are giving Horizon you do the same in Zelda.

        • diamond

          Grammar, learn it please.

          • Jean Grey

            seems right to me twat

          • diamond

            not really dumbfuck. Do you know what periods and commas are?

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            Says the person who doesn’t understand how capitalization works and has two separate screen names, diamond and darksteel6 and couldn’t even be bothered to capitalize either of them.

          • diamond

            idiot

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            Seriously? Are you so desperate for me to contact you that you are back to spamming comments as Diamond and hoping I’ll notice you? Dude, let it go.

          • diamond

            who’s pathetic now moron?

          • diamond

            you’re the desperate one here dumb cocksucker

          • Jean Grey

            god it’s a fucking comment. prepare to be absorbed by cell twat

          • Jean Grey

            those are called mechanics twat

          • diamond

            dumb motherfucker, you’re the twat

    • Lindsey Stewart

      Just like shiekah towers at least they match the setting but the resurrection towers are more spawn points and fast travel spots i also like the brachiocoms relay, should be a satellite dish.

      No info on the dungeons (cauldrons) much like breath of the wild.

    • Lloyd

      It wasn’t a deal breaker for me, but it did make me laugh a bit.

  • diamond

    I did not find Far Cry 4 “egregious” at all.

    • craze

      cool

  • Hunter Mearo

    First Nioh and now Zero Dawn. It’s almost as if Jim is becoming a Sony fanboy 😉

    • HisDivineOrder

      He also refused to give Halo 5 it’s due. He’s definitely sucking on the Knack Teet.

      NO DOUBT HE’S ALSO EAGERLY AWAITING KNACK 2: ReKnackered!

      D’ya know why? Because he’s Jim Frickin’ Sterling, son.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        To be fair, halo 5 guardians is a disjointed mess and i played that in one setting, very little of substance too and im a diehard halo fan, i preordered the halo wars 2 ultimate atriox edition (good value too as i got the first game remastered for Xbox one)

        • SirAngry

          Those were my thoughts on Halo 5 as well. I could just about live with Halo 4, but Halo 5? Wasn’t a bad game, just didn’t ‘feel’ like Halo to me, or maybe I’m just bored of it. In the same way I couldn’t take an Uncharted 5, Uncharted 4 is it for me.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            Halo 5 isnt boring but its quite repetitive, repetition has been with halo since combat evolved.

            Pillar of autumn Halo truth and reconciliation the silent cartographer assault on the control room, floodgates the library

            Two betrayals (reverse assault on the control room)
            keyes (truth and reconciliation)

            The maw

          • SirAngry

            Well to me personally repetition and boredom often go hand in hand. As I said, perhaps I’m just bored of Halo now. I acknowledged Halo 5 in my opinion wasn’t a bad game, it’s just I’m not down for anymore Halo. Feel the same way about Forza and Gears tbh too.

          • Lindsey Stewart

            Your not the only one that is bored of halo currently…

      • Hunter Mearo

        I like the meme but Halo 5 got its due. I enjoyed 4 and the original trilogy but goddamn; 5 should have run much better for saying it was given better tech and omg the micro-transactions :’-(

      • Michael Kane

        Shall we ignore that he hated Knack then?

    • Lindsey Stewart

      That may be an issue down the line, if thats the case i wont be resubscribing to his youtube channel.

      • drownedsummer

        Because he likes certain games?

        • Lindsey Stewart

          No, he can like certain games, hes just neglecting his sony quota.

      • Hunter Mearo

        I hope you’re kidding aha. It’s not his fault that Sony actually made 2 decent games in a row for once. We all know he’ll stick with us PC mustard race to death haha

        • Lindsey Stewart

          I look forward to it, meanwhile ark survival evolved has been greenlit on psn but on steam its early access

          Early access is a joke and needs a purge

          • Hunter Mearo

            Ark is a bit of a joke atm, I wish they’d do more with optimisation because I experience too many bugs for how crap my game has to look on a mid range PC.
            But yeah, early access currently is just 20% great stuff (I just picked up Northgard) and 80% unfinished work and work that YOLOArmy helped greenlight :-/

  • Chet-The-Threat

    Game of the year so far!! Open world games are getting better and I just can’t wait for DeathStranding and the best game ever made CyberPUNK 2077 just wait and see!!

  • Sam

    Does anyone think this game is a perfect example of how important it is to name your property carefully?
    Every time I or a friend has mentioned “Horizon Zero Dawn” the rest of us – no matter how familiar we were the marketing – had to take a second to think “…is that some new military shooter…?” before remembering “Ooooh! It’s that really cool looking game that doesn’t at all match it’s title!”

    • HandsomePeasant

      Amazingly, I mentioned that “Horizon: Zero Dawn looks awesome” to a friend, and he thought I meant Deepwater Horizon, with Marky Mark.

    • Lloyd

      That’s been my sentiment ever since it was revealed, that the title is horribly generic and effectively meaningless.

      • Ax Crazy

        According to a couple of reviewers, there actually *is* an explanation for the title within the game. Can’t confirm, haven’t yet played it myself.

        • Lloyd

          Which is fair enough, though still doesn’t change my opinion on the name being a terrible choice, especially for a brand new IP.

          • Ax Crazy

            Watch it turn out to make complete, brilliant sense in hindsight.

            …what? I can hope.

          • Lloyd

            It very well could in context with the deeper narrative, but without that context it’s meaningless to the audience. And that’s a problem especially when coming into a brand new IP.

            In Halo the games take place or are centered around the Halos (though that has diminished overtime), Tomb Raider you (more or less) are raiding tombs, Dead Space you are fighting undead monsters in space. Horizon: Zero Dawn….what does that even mean or have to do with a tribal girl hunting robot animals with a bow? I don’t get it and it sounds like I’m about to play a generic military shooter.

            Maybe there is some evil AI called Horizon and it enacted Operation ZERO DAWN wiping out humanity…whatever the reasoning it just doesn’t work well as a title IMO. Sorry I went on a bit of tangent there but you get my point right?

          • Sam

            Indeed. It’s all well and good to claim the name will be very meaningful once you’ve played the game/watched the movie/read the book/etc. but such sentiment is meaningless to somebody who’s foregone what would have been an amazing experience for them because they thought upon hearing the name “Isn’t that that movie about hunting down Osama Bin Ladan? Yeah, not interested…”
            And it doesn’t matter how significant the piece of in-game lore is for which the game is named, the question still needs to be asked “…but does that make for a good title?” In this case, the titular Dawn of Zero Horizons or whatever it turns out to be could be the sickest thing I’ve ever encountered in a game. That still wouldn’t make “Horizon Zero Dawn” any less generic and nondescript.

  • TJ Barke

    I came really close to ordering a PS4 this morning for this game…

    • Martina Veselá

      Do it, you know you want to. 🙂
      Even if this and Bloodborne are the only games you ever play on it, it’ll still be worth it.

    • Bart Hartjes

      I preordered the ps4 slim horizon edition, and in addition they gave me uncharted 4 for free with it so pretty good deal (€330).
      And know preorders are bad but after reading jims review where can i go wrong with 300 hours into the witcher.

  • Nice to hear it’s alright. I was hoping this game would be good. Hopefully Vampyr will be too when it releases. Horizon and Vampyr are pretty much gonna be the reasons I finally get a PS4 tbh.

  • HisDivineOrder

    Recently had the chance to buy a PS4 for $150-ish dollars post-credits and what not. The main reasons were Nioh, Horizon, and God of War. Finally playing the updated versions of Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted 4 didn’t hurt since I postponed playing them once I heard the “real” versions were on PS4 Pro.

    I’ve got a gaming PC and games that are being released on it will be played on PC (i.e., Nier). For games NOT coming to PC, PS4 Pro is where it’s at.

    Note: No 4KTV, but do have 4K monitor.

    I am glad then that my purchase of a PS4 on a lark is NOT wasted and that the games I anticipated wound up being worth it.

    ESPECIALLY WITH THE BEAST MODE OPTION FOR OLDER GAMES.

    • Lindsey Stewart

      Beast mode is only for ps4pro which i have in my possession.

  • awesome. I had high hopes for this game and its wonderful green apocalypse setting. good to hear while not game changing it’s still a fully enjoyable game.

  • Lindsey Stewart

    In that review there was no mention of the legend of Zelda or Breath of the wild, which Horizon was clearly inspired by (and half the industry as well)

    • rllintrllin

      Mind elaborating?

    • Lindsey Stewart

      There is dungeons in horizon called “cauldrons” i found this out thanks to a gameranx video on YouTube, cauldrons are where the mechanical sauropods are built,

      link moderator is not helping and post was deleted.

      But its 10 things you need to know about horizon zero dawn

    • sillyskeleton

      I don’t see a whole lot of parallels to Zelda, and BotW isn’t even out yet. Not sure if even a trailer for that game would have been available before Horizon was already deep into development.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        Horizon has similarities but they may be hard to distinguish untill pointed out.

    • Uldi

      How can something be inspired by a game that isn’t even out yet? Horizon has been in development for roughly three years, as has BotW. As for being inspired by Zelda in general? Only in the most general sense.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        That was my mistake, but it narratively takes cues for ocarina.

        • Sebastian Knauer

          No it doesn’t. Not even close.

    • Martina Veselá

      Zelda games are inspired by other franchises as well and borrow stuff from them. This may be a surprise to you, but games don’t exist in a vaccuum and they inevitably influence one another.
      Being a Nintendo fanboy is one thing, being delusional another.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        No, i know that, i ain’t blind or stupid, for example, ever heard of hydelide?

        • Martina Veselá

          This just makes the original comment even dumber… If you understand the influence games have, why even whine about Zelda in the first place?

    • Slipknot [RU-Veteran]

      Shut Up Zelda sucker, this Game is in developement since 2010, and Breath of ugly looking is the first openworld Zelda too, and it will never be as good as Witcher 3 or Horizon, fucking blind Nintendo idiots

      • Patrick Murphy

        Are you a child? I mean, overuse of swear words, irrational hatred for Zelda and Nintendo, saying Breath of the Wild can never be as good as Witcher 3 or Horizon two very very recent games…

    • Feigndall

      I hate to break it you but the original Zelda was not the first game to have an open world and dungeons for you to explore. Role Playing Games had already existed before Zelda and all Zelda actually did is be an RPG without the actual RPG mechanics.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        Correct, but most are pretty much dead, hydelide being one such case.
        Legend of Zelda: A Hyrule fantasy was developed in 1994 on the Famicom disk system… the nes version mas 1996…

        Never hear about ultima must be dead…

    • drownedsummer

      Would you like to detail these games which make up half the output of the gaming industry which has been clearly inspired by Breath of the Wild?

      • Lindsey Stewart

        Maybe not breath of the wild but the legend of Zelda, there are a few.

    • Soul Less

      Horizon has been in development for 6 years, Zelda was not an inspiration..at all.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        Cauldrons? Yep not dungeons….
        i call bullshit

        • Sebastian Knauer

          So dungeons are Zelda staples now? What?

    • Fyou

      Early impressions seem to indicate the inverse being true. Not to suggest that is a bad thing.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        Yeah, i know they don’t talk about zelda as an inspiration.

  • Aaron Walton

    This is really good to hear. I really liked the look of it since I saw the first trailers, but always had the nagging feeling that it’d just end up being yet another mediocre overhyped open world sandbox. So glad I was wrong.

    • Lindsey Stewart

      There is dungeons in horizon called “cauldrons” i found this out thanks to a gameranx video on YouTube, cauldrons are where the mechanical sauropods are built,

      link moderator is not helping

      But its 10 things you need to know about horizon zero dawn

  • Lloyd

    Definitely good to see all the positive reviews, but I’m still going to hold off buying just yet.

    • Toby Rawal

      Hi Lloyd – How come you’re going to hold off? Nothing against your decision, i’m just genuinely wondering why?:)

      • Lloyd

        Basically it’s because I try to refrain from pre-orders and day-one purchases unless I’m 100% absolutely certain I need to have it immediately without a shred of doubt. And while I don’t believe it will be a bad game, I’d rather wait and see what the general public think or try it for myself first. My disposable income is far from limitless and taking a “wait and see” approach can only help me.

        Sure I’ll “miss out” on deluxe edition bonuses and won’t be playing it the moment it comes out…but *shrugs* I can live with that. Not like the game will be going anywhere anytime soon, I’ve got time. 🙂

    • Tron

      wait for reviews from reviewers who werent sent early/ paid to review the game.
      dont give in to the hype!

      • drownedsummer

        So Jim then. Unless you’re actually seriously suggesting that. If you aren’t then i salute for your excellent satirical post.

      • Lloyd

        I don’t doubt that Jim sincerely enjoyed the game, and that he enjoyed it is a good sign. That being said I’m still going to hold off buying it.

      • MiamiBeachMedMan

        Uhhh…the game is reviewing well everywhere. For your butthurt, I’ve heard there is a cream for that. Apply liberally on your aching a.n.u.s.

  • Kev’ Bryant

    Port it to PC and I’ll be super happy!

    • Bagas Sularsono Adi

      Unbelievably delusional.

    • Martina Veselá

      Get a PS4, PC peasant.

    • Aaron Walton

      Would love a PC port as well, but it’ll never happen. But now that PS4 Pro is out, it’s not too hard to find a decent deal on an original PS4; finally just picked one up yesterday from a pawn shop for 165, including controller. Mainly picked it up for Bloodborne, but I’ll get this eventually as well. You might give it a shot if there’s enough PS4 games you’re interested in.

    • nikolas orava

      It will never be ported to pc.
      Just do what other PC gamers do when there’s a good game that isn’t out for pc.
      play shit load of old games and indie games PS4 can’t play while waiting for the emulator to come out.

      • Kev’ Bryant

        I’m spoiled for PC games, so I’m good. <3

        I'm never sure how far to trust the "Only on Playstation" thing, though. I have several games that have the "Only on Playstation" logo on the top of the box, but soon enough, they were on PC. And since I don't have a PS4, a PC port is the only way I'm going to get to hunt robo-dinosaurs any time soon.

        • drownedsummer

          As Killzone has never been released on PC I would trust the suggestion this will remain Sony exclusive as it’s made by developers owned by Sony.

    • boxfetish

      You don’t need to apologize. The walled garden of console gaming needs to die so that gamers can be united under the (far) superior PC platform. Of course, as long as the cognitively impaired keep shelling out $500+ for the hardware every few years and the full $60 price for all their games (for far inferior graphics and controls, no less), it likely won’t ever end.

      • Ax Crazy

        Never going to happen, so…

      • 3rdworldgamer

        idiots like you needs to die first

        • Grim Fees

          LOL. Wishing death upon someone…The mentality of a console gamer, ladies and gentleman…

        • zarathustra2k1

          How did this comment get approved when my innocuous one says “awaiting moderation”? wtfsterlingson?

      • Dennis Estebal

        Honestly, this PC master race thing is getting ludicrously trite and annoying at this point. Given that I’m a huge pc gamer myself and the last console I had was a ps3 and that the high end pcs would always be superior to consoles, still, I enjoyed the hell out of that console despite it’s “inferior” graphics. And IMO it’s kind of elitist to call people “peasants” or “cognitively impaired” just because they prefer gaming on a different system other than your prefered one. And it’s just my two cents really.

      • MiamiBeachMedMan

        Yikes. Some people are really hurt they’re continually missing out on excellence. Sucks to be you.

      • Mandrake42

        I’m a PC gamer myself, but wishing that someone’s platform of choice die because it isn’t a platform you yourself own is kind of douchebaggy. Not to mention that consoles aren’t going to go away, no matter how hard you might wish for it. Wishing them to die is just as ludicrous and petty as the console gamers who want PC gaming to die.

    • Grim Fees

      There is no good reason not to port to PC after the game has been out for a year or so. Everybody wins. The console companies/gamers still get the exclusives they need to feel good about their platform, but the vast majority of gamers (on PC) still get to, eventually, play these games and the companies get the PC revenue stream. PC gamers are somehow the elitists, though…

      • Kev’ Bryant

        If you saw my “rig” you’d see I have nothing to be elitist about! Some of us are PC gamers because we can use a PC for more than games and can’t afford a new console. Game on!

        • Martina Veselá

          I know how it feels to be stuck with one platform only and having no choice. I refused to buy consoles and played on PC exclusively for over 2 decades. Only about 12 years ago did I finally give in and started buying consoles for their exclusives.
          In an ideal world, every game should be available on every platform and we wouldn’t have these ridiculous console wars. Sadly, consoles would be completely obsolete without exclusive games, so it’s never gonna happen.

          (Sorry if I was rude in my previous comment. I’m used to dealing with PC elitists who would rather cut off their own arms than ever touch a console. Lack of finances is a legit reason for not owning one and no one should be mocked/insulted for it.)

          • Kev’ Bryant

            No worries. We’re all friends here.

            I think that anyone who is too elitist is doing nothing but harming themselves. There are great games on every system and being too locked into one means you’ll never play some real gems.

            I probably could have afforded a new Playstation. But I went for a child instead. ;op

      • Fyou

        Exclusives wouldn’t have the draw that they do if you knew for a fact that they would eventually get a port to the PC. Obviously that is less of an issue for Microsoft with them having their fingers in both pies. Your win/win scenario for Sony is expressed from a biased perspective though.

    • MiKKKro$oft Bu$hitller

      Sorry but actual PC gamers who want actual PC games don’t want anything to do with this casualized, mass-market garbage for lowest-common-denominator console plebs.

  • Martina Veselá

    I’m very relieved to hear that it’s this good. After several recent disappointments where games I was looking forward to turned out to be mediocre, I’m glad this is not the case of Horizon. I’ll be getting it as soon as it comes out in Australia.

  • ManuOtaku

    Having liked a lot Enslaved: Journey to the West, Far Cry, Monster Hunter games, then I must love this game.

    Happy for the developer, I enjoyed the Killzone series, although I did prefer Resistance over it. They were a graphical powerhouse, but gameplay wise were not that great, they lack something. Nice to see with this game they achieved both in great equal quality meassure.

  • Andrew Butt

    Just heard about the lawsuit FINALLY being dropped. Just wanted to say Jim, I’m glad it’s over and I hope you feel vindicated and can finally relieve the stress of all this ongoing legal bullshit ^^

    Also, great review. I’m going to have to buy this to play on my brother’s PS4, because you very much described a game that has all the elements I like from many other great games xD

  • An Average Aspie

    cool that the gameplay is nice. Just wish you talked a bit more on the voice acting besides just 2 words. Unless the full game has some above average performances or all the stuff I heard in the trailers and gameplay footage showed some stilted performances that were aligned with the “uncanny facial animations”. Ashley Burch can do better even though she’s just a one trick pony ala borderlands. But I guess the director made everyone talk like “future” people. Since everyone is from a broken down regressed future, it somehow means people forget how to express emotion. Even though tribalism is a thing, meaning EVERYONE would be emotional over the dumbest of things. English is still a thing and the script writer or cut-scene director’s could’ve pulled an excuse for the stilted acting without having to make the audience infer 1 of many points that pulls people into this awesome world.

    Overall, the voice acting and cast choice almost pulled me away from the game. But with this review I still wanna try it out. Just wish Amanda Winn Lee got popular enough to play as Aloy to make my potential enjoyment a 10/10

    • ATBro

      Ashley Burch has done a shit load of voice acting beyond Borderlands. Take a minute and look at all the definitive judgments you’ve made about a game you haven’t played yet.

      • drownedsummer

        She has Life Is Strange is easily her biggest role before Horizon Zero Dawn in terms of games at least as she’s also one of the writers on the Adventure Time Islands mini-series.

        Plus Jim potentially also knows Ashley. I’m kind of surprised that they haven’t tried to get her on Podquisition.

      • An Average Aspie

        I took roughly a goddamn hour looking at said judgments before posting my comment that could sway me in the opposite direction if the game exceeds my expectations. Hell, I’m even stating that she can do better then this performance. Her only decent forte imo is overactive teens/kids ala Tina. But again, it can exceed my exceptions that I have every right to compose since these reviews, trailers and gameplay footage warrant judgement. At least I’m willing to give the game a chance

  • Tron

    paid to praise?

    • Tracy

      If sony tried to pay off Jim, he would have denied it, and then made a Jimquisition episode about it.

    • La Chica Incognita

      If you knew the first thing about the reviewer in question you’d realize how ridiculous even the accusation of that would be.

      He’s essentially blacklisted or greylisted by most game companies at this point.

    • LookingGlass

      Only by Patreon, but i’m guessing your just trolling anyway.

    • MiamiBeachMedMan

      When you can’t handle that a game you have no ability to play gets praise and great reviews, and because you have no ability to play it when others enjoy it you can’t handle it, you desperately need a life. Get a life…and some therapy.

    • Mandrake42

      Wow, you really aren’t familiar with Jim’s work are you?

    • Soul Less

      you’re an idiot.

  • SuuLoliBoob

    >bad voice acting
    >bad action, with frame-drops and dumb AIs
    >bad animation during cut-scenes
    >Shitty story
    >Character is as bland as a tooth-pick

    Yeah, surly a 9.5…. When you’re paid to do it. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5cbac35c8f39e796d29284f140fd42ed4d6f41f381707289405e0e15ac805cb8.jpg

    • ATBro

      Get you kiddie porn out, dirt bag.

    • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

      Wow you are dumb. None of what you said is even remotely true and you obviously haven’t seen Digital Foundry’s glowing praise for how well the game runs on both orig. PS4 and the PS4 Pro.

      Now run off and stroke your xbox buddy’s off with your lies.

      Xbox is the best…stroke stroke.

      • SuuLoliBoob

        Wow, when did i say xbox was good? nice projection buddy.

        But have you actually noticed they actually never went to an area with a huge amount of enemies/area with huge canyons? Well, that’s because if they did, it would make the game lag around 5-7 frames, which is not good. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0a53e3fa7445e79a98e04e5b96f51a983e16595e7c6917d900334e73cf8dfdb2.jpg

        • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

          lol first off only a butt hurt fanboy would say such outlandish off the wall things and second off you are absolutely wrong about the frames. Digital Foundry is known for their analyzing prowess and unbiased view.

          it’s okay, I know you need to live in denial. Your lies and delusions won’t change the fact that this game is one of the biggest games of this year and definitely GOTY contender.

          • SuuLoliBoob

            ah huh, i understand that you fanboys hate seeing your shitty games being called out, it’s all right. too bad it doesn’t stop making games shitty. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/34b88d104c373ad3212d02005f2c21c2f3c3ff95b8e5342007986cf3420b00b8.png

          • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

            Yeah…been a real shitty year so far for Sony huh? lol! See I told you that you were full of it. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/82654276102895e6d99d2ff996560fba9e3149b14cc0cf34d64d68083cfac7df.jpg

          • SuuLoliBoob

            Congrats, the PS4 got some decent/good games. Doesn’t mean Horizon is one of them. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a3255c441b5eeff57b3079301091d39fec32a1f14188c472f3c0740c1e181448.png

          • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

            Oh wow…thanks for that insightful comment! Gee, IDK why Horizon Zero Dawn was shaping up to be an amazing looking game….could it be the truck loads of glowing reviews? The beautiful gameplay? The superb performance on PS4 and PS4 Pro?

            I just have one question for you. Where are you going to hide when user reviews get posted? I have saved this comment and will circle back next week after they get posted. I wonder what lies you will hide behind next week!? I’m sure all the users are paid shills too lol.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/18c5b0f35f3493610d4985cfa7995ec47cd12dac7fdb2db135384a5a777e4a08.png

          • SuuLoliBoob
          • Retsuprae

            Calm down fraud, stop having a meltdown because you were exposed

          • XionEternum

            Nice tangent. You make an excellent stalker/creeper. This addresses the original point how though?

          • Retsuprae

            I’m sorry for insulting your lover.

          • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

            Retsuprae is just a bad wanna be troll. Ignore him, he’s butt hurt bad.

            *Edit – Oops, accidently replied to the bad troll!

          • Retsuprae

            Allen, your meltdown over being exposed as a fraud was funny at first, now it’s just sad. You gotta stop damage controlling bud

          • XionEternum

            I actually do not know the person, could’ve said the same to you for your blind defense of the hentai poster, didn’t, and let you prove yourself the asshole. Well done. Try again?

          • Allen – PSN iPITYtheFOOL_T

            Not reading your junk. It’s not like anyone is reading this anyways or that it really matters that xbox wasn’t entertaining enough to keep me from picking my PS4 back up the same day I installed the xbone.

            Thanks for the disappointing Christmas Microsoft.

          • Retsuprae

            “not reading your junk”
            “proceeds to read anyway”

            Allen is still having a meltdown over being exposed as a massive fraud, things are not looking good for him 🙁

          • Fyou

            These exclusives reviews are fantastic for weeding out the children.

          • OtakuDom

            Dude you are in full on denial. Sony is smashing the competition Halo Wars is the only thing out for Xbox and Nintendo’s stuff isn’t out so they can get a pass for a year because new console and all

          • Allen
      • Retsuprae

        At least he’s played Xbox, unlike you fraud

        • Fyou

          Holy shit that’s really what this is about? Children are the worst.

      • zarathustra2k1

        “Wow you are dumb.”
        Foolish, stupid, idiotic; any of these soubriquets would suffice. ‘Dumb’ indicates an inability to talk, not a synonym for silly. One would think Jim ‘Fucking’ Sterlingson’s followers would be aware of this.

    • MiamiBeachMedMan

      When you can’t handle that a game you have no ability to play gets praise and great reviews, and because you have no ability to play it when others enjoy it you can’t handle it, you desperately need a life. Get a life. And some therapy.

      • SuuLoliBoob

        Trust me, i’ve seen it being played and heard the horrendous voice acting.

        It’s shit. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef870589537dda37770323639b6141f9bc96ba242259b17139d65439722e1a51.jpg

        • MiamiBeachMedMan

          Why would anyone trust you? You’ve proven yourself to be a dumb ass. Not even your own mother trusts you…that’s a pretty safe bet. She probably watches you like a hawk when you’re around, afraid to turn her back for fear you’ll either steal from her, or strangle her. Yeah, you’re that creep.

        • Neko Majin

          Personally, as a pas4 owner, I’ betting the game really isn’t very good.
          However, the fact you’re posting weird anime crap immediately destroys your credibility.

      • Fyou

        I hate Zelda because I don’t really want a switch but it kinda makes me want a switch. Seriously might have to trawl some pawnshops for a used WiiU for it, looking fantastic.

    • zarathustra2k1

      “Yeah, surly a 9.5”
      Op is surely surly…

  • I may be a bit out of the loop… Why are people saying all the reviewers were bought to praise this game? Is there any proof to it, or is it just a case of angry kids who can’t play an exclusive?

    • Ax Crazy

      Because some people get mad when people like things that they don’t or think they won’t.

    • SuuLoliBoob

      Have you seen gameplay of the monstrosity of a game?

      • yes… it made me really want to play the game, since I saw the first trailer.
        Though i do think the draw animation for the bow looks weird at times

        • Ax Crazy

          Psst… don’t waste your time with that one… they’re a blatant troll…

    • thatdamnrat

      Just the ever continuing console wars. Xboneheads seem to be a little butthurt because Jim is on record as saying the Xbox one is a bit toss, and he has seemed to favour the PS4 for console gaming at the moment. Now it would never occur to them that maybe the PS4 might be the better of the two from any subjective or objective measure so naturally anything that says so of course must be a result of underhanded collusion.

      • Fyou

        It’s gotta be the Nintendo kids on this one I think. Extreme proximity to a similarly playing game coming out right before their second coming. Admitted Zelda looks fantastic, but so does this.

        • thatdamnrat

          Which is particularly insane as Breath of the Wild isn’t out yet, how can they be butthurt about a score that doesn’t even exist yet, and could be their desired 10/10

    • MiKKKro$oft Bu$hitller

      Because it’s not very good? Because it appeals solely to casuals that have very little experience with video games who are less likely to see its lack of depth and its commercial aping of mass-market trends towards the homogenization that is killing the artistic aspect of video games dead?

      • you are at least a little wrong, I have some experience with video games, and, though i set it aside to play nier automata, I found the game to be pretty good, it’s not nearly as generic and uninspired as you claim, and it’s obvious it had work put into it. I also don’t understand why this game is catching so much fire for using open world games trends, while Zelda is being so highly praised for doing a lot of that

  • Milo Gotje

    Danm. Another really good PS4 exclusive. I’m getting increasingly more tempted to finally buy one. Even if i know it’s not a very smart idea, since i can’t really afford one.

  • SuuLoliBoob
  • zarathustra2k1

    This posting got me to reinstall Singularity…

  • paxtofettel

    I find it hilarious how there are people accusing Jim of being paid off.

    Really? Jim of all people is gonna allow himself to be bribed? Get real

    • Soul Less

      It’s just xbot trolls who are jealous, they should direct there anger at Microsoft and their awful software lineup. Horizon is getting rave reviews everywhere.

      • Note5

        Throw them Nintendrone man children too

      • zarathustra2k1

        “there anger”
        “their awful”
        How?

  • Jemolk

    Looks and sounds good, glad PS4 people are getting some good games now. Too bad I won’t be able to throw money at it unless they port it to PC though. Personally I’d say that when there’s a generation switch, after a bit of time for the new console gen to get settled in, all the exclusives for the last gen should be ported to PC so everyone wins. Unfortunately publishers and such won’t allow it because the moment it stops needing patches it’s not their problem anymore.

  • Peter O’Hanraha-hanrahan

    The over saturation of open world games in recent years had me so burnt out on the concept that its been at least 2 years since I’ve played one. Had my eye on Horizon though and was cautiously optimistic that it might turn out good, so perhaps its time to jump back into that sort of game again.

  • Ax Crazy

    Why did this comment section turn into a shitshow of “Posting various images of things that may or may not qualify as hentai”?

    Someone, please explain this to me… I beg of you…

  • Naiko

    A world that’s basically Disney’s Brave meets The Last of Us, Enslaved: Journey to the West, Far Cry, Mass Effect, The Witcher, Monster Hunter, Toukiden, and loads of other really, really cool shit.

    Now definitely it is a big NOPE for this game.

    • Fyou

      I didn’t see that comment going that direction.

  • Matthew

    Extremely helpful Jim, you do the job very few can do without letting bias get the better of you. So many reviewers jump on hype trains or attack anything that is remotely similar to something they hate. Not you. You let analysis and logic prevail. 10/10 would recommend your review.

  • FlamingoJet

    PC release please

    • Soul Less

      It’s made and owned by Sony, not happening.

      • zarathustra2k1

        £400 to play a game – not happening either.
        I’ll wait for the emulator – no rush…

        • Sebastian Knauer

          Yeah, because there’s only a single game on PS4 that hasn’t seen a PC release.

  • Chris Hales

    Gamefaqs are losing their collective shit over this game and some kind of ‘SJW conspiracy’. Heaven forbid that a video game has a female protagonist or that said female protagonist doesn’t have big plastic tits. That website really is poison.

    • XenoAlbedo

      Yep. I avoid that website like the plague.

    • Neko Majin

      Idk, if some of the stuff they said is true it definitely seems very heavy handed.
      The complaints I heard focused more around things like alloy not wanting a male child or the game demonizing men.
      Obviously the game isn’t out yet, so I’ll need to wait to see if any of that is true, but if it is I can’t really say I find that appealing.

      • Uldi

        Ask yourself this: If the game isn’t out, and the only ones that have actually played it are those sent a copy by the publisher, how did ANY of them know one way or the other? Answer: They don’t. It’s bullshit, meant to stir the easily led into a frenzy.

        • Neko Majin

          Supposedly a reviewer who shares their dislike of feminism, Personally I’m not saying it is there.
          I’m just saying if it is I can’t say I’m up for it.

          • Uldi

            And let me guess, there was no link to the review in question, just an anonymous statement.

            And what has happened to you is called priming. You are literally setting yourself up to see the game “demonizing men”, even when it isn’t. The same if Aloy states she wants a daughter, you are now primed to see it as her NOT wanting a son; by the way, a lot of men want sons, does that mean they don’t want daughters? Of course not.

            The fact is, you are almost certainly going to see those patterns now, even if most other people don’t. You read that thread, then repeated it’s claims rather than just dismissing them out-of-hand. That repetition has strengthened a pattern recognition, and it would take conscious effort to get rid of it; mainly by recognizing the imposed pattern when it gets triggered and consciously dismissing it.

            Just as a warning though, it’s likely you ruined a great game for yourself over bullshit pulled out of someone’s ass.

          • Neko Majin

            I actually wrote out a rather long response that explained the issues with your remarks point by point, but I decided that wasn’t appropriate given the fact your response comes off as emotionally charged.
            Instead I’ll say this, discussing outcomes that have yet to be confirmed as accurate or inaccurate isn’t a bad idea, Unless you have an inability to see things objectively after hearing a claim.
            An issue I don’t have, but perhaps you do, I can’t honestly say.
            I’m neither frenzied nor defensive, I’m simply saying if that claim turns out to be accurate I don’t want the game, you can attempt adding what isn’t there to what I’m saying, such as assuming I, possibly like you, can be easily tricked into seeing patterns that aren’t there.

          • Fyou

            But, your seem to have confirmed everything he just said. I’m sure you can’t see it, and you’ll disagree again, but you did.

          • Neko Majin

            Please, elaborate.

          • Uldi

            And you just proved my point. You posted several times about this supposed “reviewer” that said that Aloy doesn’t want a boy-child, and the game demonizes men. But no proof, just a hearsay account of a thread on a notoriously biased forum.

            At this point I’m starting to wonder if you yourself are the “mysterious reviewer” you talk about. You certainly seem rather defensive whenever his claims are questioned.

          • Neko Majin

            I can see you’ve managed to confuse yourself.
            Starting with:
            “Ask yourself this: If the game isn’t out, and the only ones that have
            actually played it are those sent a copy by the publisher, how did ANY
            of them know one way or the other? Answer: They don’t. It’s bullshit,
            meant to stir the easily led into a frenzy.”

            I didn’t say this wasn’t the case, I did however say there are claims that a reviewer who doesn’t support a feminist perspective found the game problematic.
            I additionally said if those claims turn out to be true I’ll definitely be skipping the game, what I didn’t say is I’m skipping it based on unsubstantiated claims.
            Something you seem to assume based on this:

            “And let me guess, there was no link to the review in question, just an anonymous statement.

            And
            what has happened to you is called priming. You are literally setting
            yourself up to see the game “demonizing men”, even when it isn’t. The
            same if Aloy states she wants a daughter, you are now primed to see it
            as her NOT wanting a son; by the way, a lot of men want sons, does that
            mean they don’t want daughters? Of course not.

            The fact is, you
            are almost certainly going to see those patterns now, even if most other
            people don’t. You read that thread, then repeated it’s claims rather
            than just dismissing them out-of-hand. That repetition has strengthened
            pattern recognition, and it would take conscious effort to get rid of
            it; mainly by recognizing the imposed pattern when it gets triggered and
            consciously dismissing it.

            Just as a warning though, it’s likely you ruined a great game for yourself over bullshit pulled out of someone’s ass.”

            Before I address the whole thing, let me address this little bit here:

            “The same if Aloy states she wants a daughter, you are now primed to see it as her NOT wanting a son; by the way, a lot of men want sons, does that mean they don’t want daughters? Of course not.”

            See, the correct way of looking at this would be “anyone who says they want X when presented with the option of choosing X or Y prefers X over Y”, which basically means if I say I want a son I’m implying I’d prefer a son to a daughter at the moment.

            The only way you could confirm I actually don’t want a daughter period is if I were to say so, or my actions forced you to come to that conclusion.

            So, an intelligent individual would come to the conclusion, assuming alloy does say she wants a daughter, that she simply prefers the idea of having a daughter over the idea of having a son. so, unless she finds herself pregnant with a boy and immediately aborts it, or directly states the fact she does not want to raise any sons, I can only assume she prefers the idea of having a daughter over a son at that moment.

            But onto the rest of that.

            I’m not one for following crowds, I like to hear a lot of different opinions and come to a conclusion of my own, so what most people see in something holds no value unless their views are actually reflected in the reality of the object in question.Just like the claims of misandry hold no weight until confirmed neither do the claims that there is no misandry, why would I blindly believe either side until I’ve seen it?
            I, like many others, do talk about the claims made by others in conversation but I don’t consider them fact until confirmed.
            If there is nothing of a misandrist nature in the game it’s not like I’m going to start making things up, if it’s just a fun game with a female lead I’ve got no issue, heck, my favorite game thus far in 2017 is gravity rush 2, it’s not like I’m prone to seeing misandry where it isn’t.
            Simply talking about the possibility of this game being very feminist doesn’t mean I believe it is, I’m just saying it’s possible, and with people making claims I’d like to know for sure before sinking sixty bucks into it.
            Which leads me to this:

            “And you just proved my point. You posted several times about this
            supposed “reviewer” that said that Aloy doesn’t want a boy-child, and
            the game demonizes men. But no proof, just a hearsay account of a thread
            on a notoriously biased forum.

            At this point I’m starting to
            wonder if you yourself are the “mysterious reviewer” you talk about. You
            certainly seem rather defensive whenever his claims are questioned.”

            No, I’m not defensive when these claims are questioned, but you do seem to be defensive when these claims are mentioned, you haven’t once even considered the fact it’s possible they’re accurate. In fact you claim I should dismiss them entirely instead of confirming their authenticity or inaccuracy.

            While I’ve consistently said they’re just as likely false as they are true, I just find the topic worth discussing.
            what if they’re correct?
            That’s my thought, not they must be correct.
            If I’ve proven your point, meaning I’ve proven that I believe those claims are true or I’m suffering from confirmation bias, please point to where I’ve confirmed your assumptions.

          • Uldi

            Who is the reviewer? Do you even know? No? Then your entire argument is based on nothing more than unsubstantiated rumors. Not ONCE have you made a single reference to who this person is.

            And I’ll point out that a woman wanting a daughter is no more nefarious than a man wanting a son. It’s because they’ll be able to understand a child of the same gender.

            Until you supply this reviewer, the topic ISN’T worth discussing because it’s literally nothing but hearsay.

      • AlexAndThunder

        “The complaints I heard focused more around things like alloy not wanting a male child”

        Well that was nonsense (by the guy you’re quoting, not you).

        • Neko Majin

          Yeah, it looks like it was.
          But you know how it goes.

    • Alantor29

      Agreed. And the moderators there are absolutely filled with tyranny. They take the trolls’ side and wrongfully moderate the trolls’ victims.

  • Colonel_Campbell

    Very much looking forward to the afformented title and am hoping it lives up to the good word its recieving. Why people are crapping on it without even having touched it yet? Should be obvious, ignore em

    • Fyou

      Exclusives bring out weird opinions, and. I’m guessing it’s very close proximity to another high profile exclusive brings them out even more so. Weird no one cares about the close embargo on Zelda though. How Nintendo could have less confidence in the most amazing game ever created than Guerilla has in this is beyond me. But then again, they seem to have a self imposed embargo on the console itself so I guess it’s just in keeping with their trends.

      • Ibi Salmon

        If you looks at a few Nintendo-dedicated sites, you’ll find quite a few people scratching their heads at the close embargo, myself included.

        • Fyou

          Yeah, from what I’ve seen it genuinely looks fantastic. First and only time I’ve found myself contemplating a switch. I don’t get the embargo at all.

  • Dave Dogge

    I thought it would be like Red Sonja but with a bow and arrow and Zoids.

    • Note5

      LoL Horizon: Zoids Dawn.
      Sold!

  • Steve Walsh

    got this game early. i really like aloy as a protag, hes pretty awesome

  • Mitchell Osborn

    “who has played more “open sandbox” games than any one human should and has grown so very weary of them” I know the feeling I have like 10 of them on my computer and I just open my folder and just stop and stare and sigh. Close it and go watch youtube 🙂

    • makiHyunda

      I’m becoming so sick of sandbox games.

  • XionEternum

    I liked FC 3, Blood Dragon, and 4. Liked Blood Dragon a great deal more than the other two in spite of how short it was. Horizon: Zero Dawn sounds so very much the perfect game for me, but… Not on PC.
    Shame that…

  • AmitD

    You mentioning Singularity is just spot on….that game was a collection of the best bits from all previous hits.
    The story was kind of kooky but it did the time travel shit just to my taste.
    Shame that it didn’t get the attention it deserved.
    Horizon looks to be a time sink in the best possible way.
    I am totally against the pre-order culture but the very high praises this is getting EVERYWHERE made me succumb for the 1st time in my gaming life.

  • Demondayzzz

    You should do a bit about how the special edition preorder for this game is ten quid more for like an extra bow, or how ME Andromeda’s is 20 or so for some armor and multiplayer points – not even any real content.
    Though I’m sure you’ve done plenty such bits!

    • makiHyunda

      Agree.
      The for honor review by Kate barely mentioned day 1 dlc and Jim’s own review here fails to mention the pre order scams.

      And yes 10 to 20 extra for a few digital outfits is a scam.

      At least the 150 version has a robot dinosaur! Lol

      • Fyou

        The regular preorder is the same price as buying day 1, and adds what I’m guessing is a bit of resources and a theme. Why exactly are you defining that as a scam? If you want to wait for reviews, they’re already out. I don’t get at all what you’re on about here? The deluxe doesn’t seem to be a great deal, soooo, don’t get that then?

  • makiHyunda

    I’m pleased that it’s good.

    I’d like to have seen some specific mention of the pre order bonus costs.

    After the pimped out for honor review which barely mentioned the £180 of day one microtransactions or pre order I’m worried that this site is loosing it’s edge.

    I know being sued is no fun but this is Jim sterling’s site.

    I come hear not to troll or moan but to hear the truth other sites hide.

    I want to hear about all the pay schemes and shady business practices which are consuming gaming.

    Even if the game is great on jimquisition I’d hope for detailed critique on any additional pay systems from dorritos and mountain dew to a shop added after the review release. What ever is in it I want to know and I’d like to hear your opinion on if it compromises the integrity of the game or game play please Jim.

    If not then why are we all here and not on ign ?

    • Uldi

      It’s an in-game pack. And Gamestop got a special skin. That’s it. There’s the typical digital deluxe with some in-game items and an artbook. There appears to be no plans for an in-game store.

      As for coming here as opposed to IGN? We come here because Jim uses his entire scale, rather than grade a game like it was a pop-quiz or an exam. If you’d rather use IGN. feel free. This site is funded through Patreon, not ads.

      • Lindsey Stewart

        Im worried that it may not be actually bought, especially when the zelda fans will no doubt buy zelda they have bought zelda for 30 years, the sony fanboys claim that this game is goty but to surprise everyone else, im buying horizon about a month later. But are there enough people to buy horizon? For reference, usa numbers for gravity rush 2 are not looking good. I want horizon to sell well but also to gain a following…. Playstation needs strong ips and uncharted has finished.

        • Uldi

          The problem with Zelda is that there is a review embargo for it, while Horizon had reviews out for over a week before the game was launched. That gives a lot of time for people to choose to pre-order. While I don’t typically pre-order anymore, I will if the reviews are out in time to do so.

          • InfamousDS

            Let’s be honest though: Zelda will continue to sell based on name alone until Nintendo either bastardizes the series (like with Other M) or they just give up on it (like Star Fox, Pikmin, and so much more for many many years).

            Breath of the Wild will be a good litmus test for the future of the series. It’s the first Zelda to almost completely abandon the “Zelda Formula” in favor of being an open-world crafting survival adventure-puzzle game. I’m apprehensive, to say the least, but I still bought a copy early because I have no dignity and I am a corporate shill for both Final Fantasy and Zelda.

          • Uldi

            Oh no doubt. But you have to consider this: A player either needs a Wii U or a Switch in order to play it. What are their sold-console numbers compared to the PS4?

          • InfamousDS

            Switch is almost completely sold out in pre-order (console and online physical Zelda game copies), I had heard 2 million units produced of just the console for GameStop and I don’t know numbers for other stores but lets add 2 million for argument’s sake.
            WiiU I had heard at most 14 million units lifetime. Many bought with the promise of this Zelda in mind so let’s assume a 20% turnover (aka just shy of 3 million units) as I vastly underestimate the size of the Zelda fanbase.

            Combined we are looking at around 7 million units Day 1 on Zelda, if my extrapolation isn’t bullshit.
            FFXV, by far the biggest title SE released last year, sold 6 million physical units worldwide in launch week and was deemed a “success” by the company based on combined total sales. I bring them up because it’s the only number I know off-hand and they famously called the Tomb Raider reboot a failure.

            So Zelda will do fine, and perhaps as good or better than a similarly long-developed Japanese made game in a similarly long-running franchise despite being on a console which has sold a quarter of the units of the PS4 (compared to FFXV’s multi-platform release).

          • Uldi

            The selling out of preorders is not at all a reliable number. Jirard the Completionist pre-ordered 5 Switches from 5 different outlets and only three look be fulfilled; one for certain, but I believe he’s still waiting for the other 2. So again, Nintendo is REALLY FOND of shorting retailers on hardware, then going ‘Oops’. So I’ll take a rather large helping of salt for those numbers.

            And I’m not saying that Zelda will do badly, only that it probably won’t have any affect on Horizon’s sales.

          • InfamousDS

            I wasn’t arguing that it would affect Horizon. That was someone else. I was just saying that Zelda will be just fine.

          • Imp Emissary

            Oh man. Is Jirard going to have to get the Golden Turd in Breath of the Wild? xD

            I would think not since I don’t think he’ll be able to show ANYTHING of the game in an episode if he did since Nintendo are so anal about taking down any video about their games on youtube.

          • Uldi

            He’s partnered with Nintendo I believe, so he should be able to show it.

          • Imp Emissary

            Whelp. Good luck to him with getting all 900 constables to get that P.O.P.
            ;p

    • Mandrake42

      I’m pretty sure if there were onerous pre-order conditions, cut content and fee to pay elements, Jim would have mentioned it. Is there some sort of doritos/mountain dew store that he missed?

    • AlexAndThunder

      I believe Jim doesn’t mention transactions in a Ubisoft game anymore because its expected. Not as an act of normalization but more of a matter of “ooh, ubisoft”. I do remember him talking about it when it was revealed on twitter.

  • makiHyunda

    I heard the side missions weren’t witcher like and were generic fetch quests with little to no story or effort and a ton of batman like filler all over the sandbox ?

    • Neko Majin

      Same here.

    • Uldi

      And you heard this where, exactly? Considering the only ones that have the game are reviewers, I imagine it was one of them. It certainly couldn’t be some random chap on reddit or Gamefaqs.

    • Lewis

      And why does everyone praise W3 side-quests so much? I can see how some can see the main story as epic and well-written (well, some who don’t mind a retelling of the books poorly done). But side-quests? They were okay at best.

  • Dave21

    Great review for a great game. Can’t wait to experience this in a few days.

  • Roc

    This is the only review that matters to me, thank you Jim

    • Note5

      Me too

    • zarathustra2k1

      Echo chambers are awesome!

      • Fyou

        The echo rings far and wide across the intertubes. Curious, are you upset because you think it’s possible he will score Zelda lower, or because you don’t have a PS4?

        • Lindsey Stewart

          Id like to see jim try, he won’t do it, not that it matters anyway.

          • crow

            lol

          • RudeOnion

            Ha ha ha

          • Kylr Avery

            Ha, you were wrong.

      • Paul Barnes

        Echo chambers are awesome!

  • Gregory Heyes

    Okay, I need to get myself a PS4 now. Been putting it off for too long…

    • Nintengoth

      For good reason there’s nothing on it lol

      • Sebastian Knauer

        Says the guy who’s new system literally has one game that’s just a Wii U port. lol

  • Chris JT

    I could have sworn he gave this game a 10/10…did he just change his score? LOL. That like NEVER happens.

    • Lindsey Stewart

      Nah, it was not a 10

      • Chris JT

        Hmm, I see. On Metacritic it was a perfect score, but now isn’t. One of them has changed the score lol. Oh well.

        • StarTsurugi

          Metacritic rounds up?

        • Mrflappywilly

          One reviewer gave it a 5/10… I assume for clickbait.

  • Jamesworkshop

    Does the title ‘Horizon: Zero Dawn’ ever make sense? or does it always sound like the kind of title that’s given to an uninspired sci-fi FPS that is destined to never be that popular.

    Congrats on Ashly Burch getting the leading role for voice acting in this game, most reviews are very positive so far.

    • Asad Rathore

      Its the Dawn of the Zeroth day is the idea. As in, everythings reset.

      • Chris JT

        Ughh, you shouldn’t have even told him. Should have figured it out on his own lol.

    • RudeOnion

      I was thinking the same thing when I started the game, lol. Yes, the title does make sense, down the road.

  • zarathustra2k1

    Horizon Creed: Primal – better than GTA: Wildlands?

  • Sterling

    Wow Jim giving a all-around positive review ending with a remarkably high score

  • Alex Murphy

    It’s not an RPG.

  • Samuel

    Why does it have to be console exclusive? I want to play it, but I’m not buying a PS4 just for one game.

    • Uldi

      Because Guerrilla Games is owned by Sony, and Sony really wants people to buy their console?

    • HypothermicBacklash .

      Hey, don’t worry, you wouldn’t be buying a ps4 for just Zero Dawn. You’d also be buying it for Bloodborne, which is easily one of the best games this decade.

    • Mrflappywilly

      Same reason as Zelda… they are owned by the console makers that made them.
      Exclusives are what sell consoles.

    • Martina Veselá

      Dude, why do you think exclusives exist? If your answer is “to make people buy consoles”, you are right. No one would give a fuck about consoles if everything was ported to PC, we’d all just stick with a PC.

      PS4 has much more to offer than just Horizon. The Uncharted series, The Last of Us Remastered, Bloodborne, inFamous Second Son, Until Dawn… I love my PS4 and so will you if you get one. You know you want to. 🙂

      • Samuel

        I’ve only played on console a few times in my whole life, the first game system I ever had was the first PC I built for myself from scrabbled together parts. I’m literally incapable of using a controller, I’ve been keyboard and mouse for too long, painfully trying to learn controller while playing a game just ruins the game for me.

        • Martina Veselá

          I only got into console gaming about 10 years ago. Prior to that I also played exclusively on PC and only knew a mouse/keyboard/joystick. It took me a week or so to get comfortable with a controller, but now that I’m used to it I can’t imagine playing third person action games without it ever again. Don’t get discouraged if the controller feels like shit the first few times you play, it quickly becomes second nature.

      • RudeOnion

        I wouldn’t play PC eve n if there were no console exclusives.. Not everyone has a juiced up PC. I have a PS4, but it’s just for PS exclusives. I mostly play on XB1.

        • Martina Veselá

          Personally I need a PC for first person shooters (and WoW). Maybe I just really suck, but I’m unable to play FPS’s efficiently with a controller. Without a mouse, they’re just unplayable for me. :-/

          • RudeOnion

            That’s fair! 🙂 Everyone has their preferences.

  • Sperium3000

    Hey Jim, I just finished translating this whole review to Brazillian Portuguese. I have some groups and friends on forums and social media that are really stoked for this game and I really think they would like to read your opinions on the game, but most of them don’t speak English. Are you ok with this? Of course, I put a disclaimer there saying I didn’t write it and that all rights go to Jim Sterling and whatnot.

    Please give me a sign? I really would prefer to have your permission so people don’t accuse me of stealing your material later.

  • thunderox

    ok i love you Jim and this review is greatly detailed and thought out… but what happened to platforming in games? In this game you just hold forward and Aloy auto climbs and jumps practically everything. And then if you do have to jump its just tap x and a guaranteed perfect jump… its just not fun to traverse things in this game. Reminds me of tomb raider and uncharted, just easy platforming that requires no skill. I mean I do enjoy those games, but they would be more fun if everything wasn’t 100% safe like its just like a walking simulator but climbing simulator lol… idk, what y’all think?

    • Grimner

      I personally don’t mind that traversing the environment is easy in these types of games. I haven’t played this one, but I do remember that Witcher 3 at launch had some downright absurd platforming that would punish me with a failure state whenever its loose controls failed me. So it all depends on how the world map is laid out and if the ease in traversal is there to allow for some map exploration. As long as the game still give you a sense of challenge in other areas, devs get a free pass for saying “here, explore at will, it’s the enemies that will eventually do you in”.

      But I’m admittedly not a big fan of platforming sections in games. Souls games tend to force environmental hazards on certain sections, and they’re emphatically the one bit i don’t like in those fames.I do however think that some games integrate said traversal in a less obvious fashion (Dragon’s Dogma should be praised for how many darn places it lets you climb to without once nudging you via a specially coloured stone, and is perhaps the best approach of all, and do believe the point you make is far more pertinent in games like tomb raider and Uncharted, where the hand holding is closely tied to set pieces and the gameplay becomes less organic because of it. But Tomb Raider has a tradition of navigational puzzles that is sorely lacking in new games.

      I guess what I’m saying is, I don’t mind it in games where it’s not the focus, and can appreciate it making the exploration more fluid.

    • AlexAndThunder

      I feel the same to an extent about the laid out platforming but that’s balanced by how easy it is to make your own way in many places.

    • Unspeakable Axe

      Horizon’s climbing shouldn’t be thought of as platforming. It’s more about finding paths to get to high places that look otherwise impossible to reach. The finding is the challenge, not nailing a jump that if missed will kill you. The climbing mechanics themselves are treated EXACTLY like Uncharted: find the path and then the game does the work for you, so you can just sit back and enjoy the spectacle of your character doing crazy things for a little bit.

      Games that do this kind of climbing – and also Assassin’s Creed-style parkour, which is also in Horizon a little bit – are not trying to challenge you in that way. The major challenges are in combat, because they’re action games, not really platformers at all.

  • Tord Laudal

    perhaps for once i will agree with the rating of a review by jim sterling at least lately… but then again i havent watched or read to many of his review. Still tbh nioh that he also reviewed seems to be must have game almost. Undertale was a review i agreed with… tlou was a review i didnt agree with

  • Manen

    Nice

  • Antigonius

    This has to be literally the most heavy, hitting-you-over-the-top-of-the-head agenda-ridden game ever made
    > they literally call your tribes’ leaders the Matriarchy
    > the cave they live in is called The Embrace
    >when you get halfway through the game you find out that in ancient times a
    white general sent BILLIONS to die against a robot apocalypse while the
    minorities got together and created GAIA – a black AI that reseeded the
    earth
    >but plot twist – the minority scientists that did so were GASSED! – By a White Male!
    > He corrupted a subfunction named HADES to eliminate inferior life – aka the minorities

    • Grimner

      So sad that your poor, fragile, insecure ego was shattered by a videogame, you delicate, precious little flower. Kiss Kiss.

    • Uldi

      Uh huh, sure. So these ‘minorities’ were American minorities then, or British, maybe? Because, much to your probable shock, white people make up less than a third of the world’s population. An Indian would not be a minority in India, a black Namibian would not be a minority in Namibia etc.

      As for a white general sending billions to die in a war… Which countries have the largest and most well equipped militaries again? Oh yeah, those countries where white generals are common.

      How can an AI be of any ethnicity?

      Yeah, a white guy gassing a bunch of non-whites, that’s totally not believable. /s

      You don’t think much, do you?

    • Hunter Mearo

      Maybe you’re reading too hard into it. I tend to only start bitching about agendas when its praised for a story like that. Did you cry when you stopped playing as Joel in Last of Us or something?

      • AlexAndThunder

        You only start bitching when someone praises a game for a story they liked? Do you hear yourself?

        • Hunter Mearo

          Yeah, I’m talking about when specific people give overly stellar reviews though, not just anyone, for example when many renown SJW types gave Get Out (the film) a 10 with “social commentary” as a positive point to the film. I gave the film a 6 and called it a mediocre horror film with some good comic relief and I made a bitchy facebook post asking why so many people gave it 10s almost purely based on a racial commentary. That would be an example of what I mean or can you not read and infer that from my comment? haha

          • AlexAndThunder

            I can read and your comment (and what you’re posting now) is literally you talking about how you get upset when other people like something *for certain aspects* of it. It’s immature brattiness to start bitching because some enjoys something that you don’t. (Not to be confused with bitching because you didn’t like the content itself, which is of course just criticism).

          • Lee

            It’s increasingly common for artistic works to be judged by influential and mainstream outlets based on an adherence to certain moral ideologies instead of artistic quality.

            The practical impact right now may be mild, but it could easily get worse.

            We have to rely to some degree on critics to curate artistic works for our society; no one can reasonably be expected to seek out and try everything without any guidance. It’s an important role. They influence visibility and popularity; and so, on aggregate– especially in the case of games and movies where funding can be crucial–they influence what gets made.

            If the video game equivalent of Mein Kamf is a better game, artistically, than the equivalent of Gandhi’s memoires, then Polygon’s review scores should reflect that. That’s moral; beneficial to art and by extension, society; progressive; and honest.

          • Hunter Mearo

            Not other people, influential reviewers who ruin a critical vibe by focusing on a single point and only that. I’d be just as peeved if someone gave Destiny a 10 because of its amazing sound design or great gun-play. I tend to critique criticism when it comes to that so I don’t think it’s immature brattiness, it’s personal preference when it comes to reviewers. I just made a comment about it. I didn’t realise that I’d be taken this seriously aha

          • RudeOnion

            So…..if I like Horizon because you fight enormous robo-animals, that’s all fine and dandy. But if I like the game because I think Aloy is a refreshing protagonist, a woman with a non-sexualized design, that gets you all riled up?

            What if I like it for both reasons? And the vast inclusion of minorities?

          • Hunter Mearo

            Nope, that’s a great thing and that’s actually one of the reasons why I enjoy her. I don’t know if I haven’t gotten my point across well enough but I’m talking about specific people or masses of people taking something to a ridiculous extreme. If you said to me that the whole game deserves a ten because of Aloy being a refreshing etc. and nothing else I’d be quite ticked off but you haven’t said that and that’s chill 🙂 I don’t think a product should be judged on one aspect

    • TheMagicLemur

      I can’t even tell if this is trolling anymore.

    • Uldi

      Having now started to play the game, I can see even more how wrong you are. You should really be careful about repeating the agenda of someone else, about a subject you have little to no first-hand experience with.

      It’s NOT called the Matriarchy, just the High Matriarchs. They are the tribe’s shaman/priests, and like most such positions they are also the keepers of the tribe’s laws and history (usually passed down through an oral tradition).

      Plot twist: Women as shaman were common in tribal-level civilization, as was the worship of a Mother Goddess; where the hell did you think the term ‘Mother Earth’ came from, anyway. The why is obvious to all but those at the bottom of the intellectual barrel when you consider how precarious a tribe’s survival situation usually was.

      The above is why you have references to a Womb and Embrace. And get this, all that bit about why real tribes worshiped an earth goddess? Irrelevant to THIS particular tribe. Why? Because ~See Spoiler Section~

      For those not interested in the spoiler, I’ll just end with this: This game’s lore, from what I’ve seen, is well constructed. It’s obvious why certain believes came into existence for the Nora, even to the extent of the tribes name (if my speculations are correct). I’m loving this game every bit as much as I loved The Witcher 3, and I can’t think of a higher praise for an open world game.

      *THERE BE SPOILERS HERE, CAP’N*

      The thing they worship as a goddess? It’s a machine with the voice of a woman.

    • Weasel Biggs

      You’ve missed the point by a few light-years, at the very least. @uldi:disqus has done a great job at telling you what needs to be inferred by the game’s themes. Matriarchal societies have solid historical precedents, and admitting that doesn’t make me or anyone else a rabid third-wave feminist.

      • Freesoul

        wut ? Feminism: zero dawn ?
        There were no historical matriarchy (may be you include fairy tales in history ?)

        • Weasel Biggs

          Some Celtic clans would like a word with you…

          • Freesoul

            Well unless you refer to fantasy ala mist of Avalon they wouldn’t say much. While it is true that the ancient Celts treated their women fairly – women often had a choice in marriage, owned land… – they were not a matriarchal society.

          • Uldi

            Then the ancient Vietnamese and the Iroquois Confederacy would have a few words to say. Hell, Crete is believed to have been one. There is some evidence that many pre-history tribes where matriarchal.

          • Jackson

            Matrilineal, perhaps, but truly matriarchal societies are pretty mythical, afaik.

    • your mom

      how insecure can someone be to care about that

    • Martina Veselá

      Why did you write an essay when everything you’re trying to say can be said in a single sentence: “waah white male oppression!”.

      • Antigonius

        Because unlike you I like to voice my irks in a detailed fashion. But you twitterite wouldn’t understand – to many words to process.

        • ben Sedgwick

          *too many

    • RudeOnion

      Oh nuuuu, women and minorities are depicted as powerful, capable beings?? Say it ain’t so! Oh the HUMANITY! Won’t someone PLEASE THINK OF THE WHITE DUDES??

      • Lee

        I haven’t played this game, so I don’t know how accurate his summation/analysis is–for all i know it could be totally incorrect, but you’re misrepresenting his argument. He’s not implying that there’s something wrong with women and minorities being depicted as powerful; he’s saying that the game is intentionally designed to depict white men as inherently evil while other races and women are good by virtue of their race and gender; a racist and sexist aim that, ironically, many people who ostensibly are against sexism and racism would applaud, because the target is white males.

        Why don’t you respond to his actual argument instead of the fictional one you created to make him appear insecure and deluded?

        • RudeOnion

          Oh, he is doing a fine job of making himself look deluded. I had nothing to do with it.

          Men aren’t ‘weak’ in the game. He’s just hung up because they aren’t all knights in armor while women are begging to be saved every second. I’m actually a huge fan of Nil, Avad, Teb and Erand, all of which are dudes, and all of which are very different from each other.

          But honestly, even IF all men were drpicted as weak or helpless, who the fuck cares? I suppose it’s easy for you (and him) to forget that, most of the time, it’s women being depicted as universally weak or sexy (often both). Get over yourself.

          • Lee

            Like I said before, I haven’t played this game, but even if what he’s saying were true, it would of course be fine. It’s unbelievably stupid to expect any creative work, that you had no hand in making, to suit the way you want gender or race to be portrayed.

            My point was that you were attributing meaning and intention to his argument that you can’t know is there, and instead of responding to what he was saying, you responded to a cynical fictionalization. Maybe he does hate that “women and minorities are depicted as powerful, capable beings”, but that’s not what he said. And you did the same thing in replying to me.

            His premise was: “This has to be literally the most heavy, hitting-you-over-the-top-of-the-head agenda-ridden game ever made”

            Your response was: “Oh nuuuu, women and minorities are depicted as powerful, capable beings?? Say it ain’t so! Oh the HUMANITY! Won’t someone PLEASE THINK OF THE WHITE DUDES??”

            My premise was: “Why don’t you respond to his actual argument instead of the fictional one you created to make him appear insecure and deluded?”

            Your reponse was: “I suppose it’s easy for you (and him) to forget that, most of the time, it’s women being depicted as universally weak or sexy (often both). Get over yourself.”

          • RudeOnion

            Not sure why you’re recapping everything that was said. Scrolling up isn’t terribly hard. I know what was said.

          • Lee

            You don’t post like you know what was said.

          • Lee

            You post like you imagine what was said and then react to that.

          • RudeOnion

            And you’re arguing pointless semantics. I don’t even recall this conversation concerning you, to begin with.

          • Lee

            Sorry for disturbing your private chat with Antigonius the woman hater.

        • J Mareeswaran

          Why don’t you watch the 6 hour video of this &makeup your own mind instead of relying on someone else’s prejudiced argument?

          • Lee

            What 6 hour video are you talking about? I have no interest in this game; everything I’ve seen of it looks like generic modern made-for-everybody shit.

            I’m not relying on anyone’s argument. Maybe you misread what I typed?

          • LawfulNetural Chaotic

            Dude I beat the entire game and got every weapon, data point, vista and collectible. You still seem like a moron to me.

    • Imp Emissary

      *Spoilers for what actually happened in the Horizon Zero Dawn.*

      1. The leaders of the Nora are mostly A-holes, and the only one who’s nice to Aloy from the start is Teersa (who is white). Also, the other tribes shown are more male dominated (Carja, Shadow Carja, Oseram). Yeah, the Nora are a Matriarchy, and the one of the least advanced tribes, and are jackasses to our hero for bullshit reasons.

      2. General Herres isn’t white and he felt real bad about what he had to do to save ALL of humanity (declaring himself a war criminal in the history archive before he died).

      3. The scientists had white people leading them too, including the projects creator/leader, Dr. Sobeck.

      4.Ted only killed the Alpha scientist, and deleted Apollo (because he didn’t want future people to know ANYTHING about the past, cause he’s a dumb fuck). He didn’t do anything to HADES, and HADES wants to kill ALL life, not just non-white people.

      5. The hero of the game who saves all life is the a clone of the white gal who did it last time.

      In short, you’re full of crap and don’t know what you’re talking about.

      • J Mareeswaran

        5th & last point, the heroine is peerless white complexion despite no shampoos, soaps and fighting enemies continuously.

        • Imp Emissary

          Maybe Gaia put something in the water to keep all her little people clean?
          Or maybe it’s nano-machines. Lots of games like to use those to explain ANYTHING. >:D

    • David Jams

      So you’re saying that you’re an insecure dude? Cool story.

  • Mark

    Yer dumb f*ck
    Most ancient tribes worshiped matriarch figures. Most of their sacred centres were called navel or refer to wombs.

    • your mom

      how insecure can someone be to care about that lol.

    • Zyphon

      What are you even trying to say here

      • Mark

        What I was trying to say to Antioginus Zyphon is that theres….you know what? Not wasting my effort explaining. Go read a book on pre-history.

      • Bo Yang Tang

        I think he meant to reply to the comment below by Antigonius

  • Zul

    I love you Jim but god damn do we have different tastes in games.

  • Louisindywine

    Jim, you hit the nail on the head. This game does nothing new… by good lord it does almost every single thing insanely well. My sentiments completely align with you. I should hate this game. I mean, I beat it, I have the shield weave armor and best weapon… but I can’t…. stop…. playing. Extraordinary world. Ubishit should take notes.

  • makiHyunda

    Maybe not 9.5 but a strong 8.5 though the pacing and issues with not being able to make a dinosaur robot follow are annoying.
    Not too much dlc so very happy.

    • J Mareeswaran

      I don’t own any console, but just watched the 5 and a half hour long video of Horizon ZD available on youtube. What the hell? Such a boring,cliched story worse than any B-movie I have ever seen. I want my 6 hours back.

  • Shane O’Shaughnessy

    Horizon is the first game in which a lack of DLC or season pass has made me sad. I want MORE of this world!

    • Zeriel

      So you think DLC gives you more and it’s not just ripped from the game during production and then sold to you later? Must be nice being so innocent…

      Back in my day a game was released COMPLETE and we would get an expansion pack several months or even years later. Now DLC is planned even before the game is made, like Destiny.

      • Sebastian Knauer

        You obviously never even lived “back in the day”. Game addons have been done as far back as Mario 2, which, in itself, was just goddamn fucking DLC.

        • David Jams

          No, no it wasn’t. It was a completely new game that was modified to turn into Mario after the fact.

          • Sebastian Knauer

            The fact that you believe that I’m talking about doki doki panic means that you’re not qualified to have a discussion with me.

          • David Jams

            Well now I’m really curious to know what you mean, smart guy. Let’s hear it?

          • Sebastian Knauer

            Don’t be so cocky when you know you’re wrong. Super Mario Bros. 2 in Japan was simply SMB with new levels.

          • David Jams

            That game was not DLC so… don’t be so cocky when you know you’re wrong?

          • Sebastian Knauer

            Jesus fuck are you dim. SMB2 was *exactly* what is being sold as dlc nowadays. You’d know that if you weren’t a mid 20 year old trying to riot against DLC online.

          • David Jams

            …although I’m inclined to believe that you’re referring to the Japanese Mario 2 that we got in the Mario All-Stars cart for SNES a few years later. Which… DLC? Okay.

      • Shane O’Shaughnessy

        That wasn’t my meaning. I meant that I never wanted the game to end, because I enjoyed being in Horizon’s world so much. Thanks for the history lesson though.

  • Casepb

    So if it had a stamina wheel you would have gave it a 7? I kid, I kid. Seriously though, you are one of the few people who rated this game higher than Zelda. I wish you good luck sir.

  • Nintengoth

    9.5? Serious? Zelda is worth the 10/10 as it’s something new for Nintendo and it does it brilliantly… This is just enslaved with a new character trying to be mass effect, 7.5 tops

    • caBooOm

      do u feel better now

    • Alex Proxy

      Zelda is 0/10 piece of dinosaur shit for autistic mariokids

    • Karabanera

      Games shouldn’t be rated on the history of the company. They should be rated as they are. Games. This isn’t a 1010 material and Jim treated it as such.

    • Oh really? Zelda is a brand new IP with a great new female protagonist? Oh wait no that’s Horizon!

      • Jackson

        Valuation of the gender of a protagonist is about as lowest common denominator as art criticism gets.

        • Wow can’t believe this is getting replies 17 days later 😉

          I wasn’t criticizing Zelda for not having a female protagonist, I was praising Horizon: Zero dawn for having one when even now the industry still frowns on that.

          • Jackson

            I know. My point is that a protagonist being female is not a positive quality, it’s a quality, and in 2017, the industry, as a whole, does not “frown on that”, even if pockets of the more mass market components of it labor under the delusion that female protagonists “don’t sell” or whatever.

    • Strangelove

      Story: +Horizon
      Exploration: +BOTW
      Combat: +Horizon
      Gameplay/exploration: +BOTW
      Graphics: +Horizon (It’s smooth and has no technical issues)
      Characters: +Horizon (Link and most of the support cast is dull/bland)
      World Quality: +Horizon (more organic, lively)
      World Quantity: +BOTW (more vast)

      The point is, that Horizon is AT LEAST equally good, but imo it’s better than Horizon from an objective view. BUT, I do must say that both games puts emphasis on different elements: action vs exploring. When you compare shared aspects then Horizon is the winner.

  • Rogerio de Andrade

    9,5 for this and 7 for Zelda? LOL
    Talk about someone who is in desperate need of clicks.

    • SVRich

      A site that doesn’t make money off adds doesn’t need clicks but regardless of that you decided this was clickbait and then happily clicked on through anyway essentially giving he what you believed he wanted….

    • Karabanera

      He doesn’t get ANY money from his website, as well as from his youtube. Research before you judge. Don’t be like social media

      • Rogerio de Andrade

        “don´t be like social media”… that advice would go way better for the reviewer. In this case, it´s so damn obvious that there´s no excuse

      • Sona

        False, Sony pays them.

        • Slizarus

          Evidence?

          • Sona

            Not like those are a lot needed.

            Zelda is way more dense, complete than Horizon.

            We all know Sony and others company (Ubisoft, Square, EA), pays reviewers for good scores.

            In case of this guy, looks like the personal hate against Nintendo due to the DCMA that doesn’t let him get free money from views makes him rage that much to judge bad a master piece of game.

          • BOLT

            >We all know Sony and others company (Ubisoft, Square, EA), pays reviewers for good scores.

            I like how you just omited Nintendo. Like everyone’s bad except for those dudes you really like for no reason. Keep it up.

          • Slizarus

            *yawn* I mean links, articles, etc. You know, real evidence. Otherwise you’re just making more unfounded claims on the internet

          • The Bandsaw Vigilante

            …Wow, you actually typed that.

          • LawfulNetural Chaotic

            The only dense thing here is you sunshine.

        • Sony pays off Jimquisition………………..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • Onyara O

        Really? Then how come my AdBlocker blocked requests on this wesite from these popular digital advertising systems:
        – EmailRetargeting
        – AdsNative
        – Exelate
        – Lotame
        – Tedemis
        – and a bunch of others

        That’s a lot of adverstising, tracking and data mining for someone who claims to not make money from his website.

  • Bumbel B

    The comments from all the upset little Zelda fanboys are hilarious. Guarantee 99% of them have not even played Horizon. Ignorant morons blinded by being fan boys. Get a life nerds.

    • BattleMcStruggle

      I played Horizon, think it’s a great game, still like Zelda more and are absolutely not a fanboy (even hated some of the last games, especially Skyward Sword). Also i don’t feel offended by Jims opinion nor by the opinions of any other person on here.

      You should grow up and accept other peoples opinions. I hope you’ll realise soon enough that you are acting in exactly the same way as these “fanboys”.

    • M. Daniel Mills

      Have YOU played Zelda?

      • David Jams

        This question is relevant, how?

  • Slizarus

    After finishing it with 44.5 hours played.. I can say this is a solid 9.8, on a technical level it’s only embarrassing moments are sometimes the poor lip synching.. but I never fell through the world, never experienced a glitch, and I enjoyed the world. Jim, like you there are things I could have hated, but somehow I was compelled by the protagonist and even the sidequest characters, maybe it was just the world, but I believed it, I wanted to help everyone.

    This game in it’s current form is something I never imagined existing, and the fact that it was pulled off, just makes me so happy. The combat is really something great, as a fan of playing Bow in Monster Hunter, this game.. god, it was just made for me 🙂

    I am eagerly awaiting Horizon 2, the post credits scene is burned into my brain, I need to know what happens next!

  • Cerebralbore101

    I’ve been absolutely loving this game to death for all the reasons Jim stated. The game borrows just as much from the Uncharted series as it does from Skyrim, and the Witcher. Stealth attacks, Climbing, and Heavy weapons all work exactly like they do in Uncharted.

  • Mr Jemandem

    First time i ever write her i think and im quite a fan of your work Jim but this is probably the first time i cant follow why horizen got such a good score. For me, i playd Zelda bevor i startet playing Horizen and i just cant over look the dull meele and laking of control in close combat. I always find my self dying to stuff i did not see coming, Camera Position is bad or the controlles for my personal feelings are responcive. Meanwile in Zelda i never had the feeling i dont have the control quite the opposid i always had the same felling like in a Dark Souls game, im always in control but did not use the tools correctly and ther was always a improvment in the next attemet to do the fight.
    In horizen i skipd moste of the side quests because the characters are not interessting for me. Thy feel for the most part like in Farcry i just forget them the next day on the other hand i still can remember guys from the witcher 3 and i havent playd that game for over a year now. That might have to do with the thing that the games weels frome the loot and quest system like a singelplayer mmo.
    Dont get me wrong her the world is amazing the setup and the main character are amazing but therest is just teasing potential and not quite delivering it. It is a good game but just that The witcher 3 did what horizen did now a lot better, for my tast.

    • Strangelove

      Clearly, Horizon is not for you. I don’t like football so I don’t like fifa games. Simple.

      • Mr Jemandem

        Well i dont like the mechanics in it but that dosent mean dislike the game. Its just every thing we had today in Unchartet Farcry and so on.. Horizon goes the save route unlike Zelda. That game will change how the next gen open world games will be like (Exploration and interacting with the World).

        • Strangelove

          The mechanics shouldn’t come as a surprise since it was on display during numerous gameplays and infosites prior to release. Also, Horizon is a vessel with numerous elements of other games within – done exceptionally well. It makes for a cohesive game where no element seems out of place, without being intrusive and not being the meat of the game.

          Botw also borrows from other games like portal and assassins creed. You also do not understand that Zelda’s interpretation of an open world game is different than Horizon. One is geared towards combat, the other towards exploration.

          I’m not sure if climbing a rock, tree or gravity counts as revolutinary. The game has a weak story and weak characters with generic bosses, so it will never be a perfect game for me. I can understand how fans and fanboys will ignore that since they’re emotionally invested and just very glad to be playing a zelda game after so long, but from an objective view, it’s not the goat by a long shot.

  • hate for plebs

    This review seems to be politically motivated. I’m not surprise by it Jim is leftist extremist a complete shill for the establishment

    • Kaili Burns

      I hate current liberals and the establishment as much as anyone else but to call the review politically motivated when there’s no mention of anything political in the review just makes it seem like you’re desperate to delegitimize it.

      Show me the proof that this is politically motivated. It’s your burden since it’s your claim.

    • When did “The establishment” start referring to women and minorities wanting representation in the world. I thought “The establishment” was more about how both corrupt politicians and CEOs of companies and high investment bankers were all friends and colluded frequently with one another to better themselves, while the common person suffers from this shameless profiteering off the government and the common person’s suffering.
      But apparently now having a woman as the main character in a game which also has both black and asian people is “the establishment”, oh christ.

  • Perky Pug

    I am very glad TheJimQuisition gave 9,5 to Horizon: Zero Dawn, because it deserves it 100%.

    Excellent game on all fronts except some minor issues with side missions.

    But still I can’t get over how TheJimQuisition gave Breath of the Wild, only 7 of 10. I am still baffled.

    Played both games and they both are masterpieces. But feels like TheJimQuisition is not so treating both fairly and objectively. It emphasizes more on the good points of Horizon and more on the bad points of Zelda. Kinda disappointing.

    • Gregg

      Who cares? It’s one fat guy who liked this and didn’t like that as much. Big deal.

    • Afroduck

      Maybe, just maybe, HZD doesn’t have the things in it that annoyed Jim in Zelda.

      • Strangelove

        Botw: Not so good story, not so memorable characters, bland Link, generic bosses, disappointing endgame boss, low durability of weapons, technical issues while playing on the tv, a big but not so lively world, etc.

        Therefor botw is a good game, but not as good as Horizon that features a very good story, good combat, interesting characters, side missions that aren’t repetitive (big one), takes the best tropes of other games and implements them in a gorgeous world that runs smooth as butter.

        What is even more impressive is that Horizon is a new IP with new characters and protagonist you care about. Within the first 2 hours I fell in love with Aloy. On top of that, all the characters are very believable and often I say one thing and Aloy responds exactly the same when choosing an option in the dialogue.

        • Welks

          Horizon is generic and pretentious dross, Zelda is timeless

          • Strangelove

            Spoken like a true ignorant fanboy. Can’t take you serious, hence what you say means less than nothing. The world needs less people like you.

          • patwag

            Being timeless doesn’t make every iteration of a series 10/10

  • Jelloinhair

    Wish I could love this game as much but after putting so many hours in I just can’t. As an avid monster Hunter fan I can’t help but compare the two in some ways.

    And when it comes down to it all this game does is make me go back to Mhgen every time I play zero dawn

  • Roc

    I wasn’t sure about this one after reading a few unfavorable reviews. Decided to rent it at a redbox, and I am pleasantly surprised at how fun the game is. My first impression of the game was not good, because it just drove me crazy how the theme was kind of a mixup between viking and native american cultures( longhouses, and dreamcatchers) it just didn’t make any sense. But after a few hours, the combat started to get a little more advanced and I was hooked.

  • Redscallion

    whoa this ones a doozy huh…. i guess this is what you get for releasing a game the same month as the new zelda…

    bought horizon after hearing miracle of sound say it was his favorite game since witcher 3, and i wasnt disappointed at all. The story towards the end had me genuinely enraptured and invested in the world, and aloy’s personal journey is a pretty wild ride.

  • Lyon Eng

    You gave a shitty game with no story and being a copy of SHPT like Biohazard 7 an 8, for honor have a 7, this game a 9.5, and Zelda BOTW with more difficulty, better gameplay, new mechanics, and a lot of things that maybe disturbed you on a logical evolution of a game you gave it a 7.5, so… how much did Sony paid you attention whore? To be honest you are not the worse, if you truly have studies on journalism, then you are very pathetic dude, or maybe your step father was a Zelda fan and told you, you would never be like Link. Really it bothers me that people so dumb like you are taken seriously in this media.

    • Daniel

      I totally agree with you. R.I.P. Jim 2015 or whenever the Sony payload (emphasis on the pay) happened. I do believe the Zelda was even lower though; it was just a seven, wasn’t it? I honestly haven’t played either, but Zelda looks awesome. horizon Zero Dawn looks okay. I am not gonna bother because of this sponsored crap everywhere until it’s in the bargain bin (like with Uncharted 4, which I ended up enjoying but not enough for GOTY, that probably goes to Watch Dogs 2).

      • patwag

        How can you judge his reviews if you haven’t played either -.- he has played them, he has more of a right to an opinion on them than you do

    • hiyah there bud

      I would say Horizon’s combat is better than BOTW & so is Horizon’s story. Aloy is a great character too. Only thing BOTW has on Horizon without a doubt is exploration & the amount of freedom to do it. So it really comes down to what you prefer. Do you like combat and story or exploration & sense of freedom more? That’s how I would pitch both games to someone as quick as possible if they had to choose between one or the other.

      All of you mad af sound sound like you’re being paid by Nintendo lol.

  • Deplorable Mr Cat

    I love this game, easily a GOTY contender. I really hated the name “Aloy” when I first heard it and thought it was trying to be cute, but she is a bad-ass and hope to see more of her and this awesome world soon.

  • Daniel

    I’m calling it. Sony sponsors are everywhere. How can this peasantry (sorry, I’m triggered and you might get triggered to) get a 9.5 when Zelda:BOTW gets a SEVEN!?

  • Plautze

    There was this story where one person was sent out to discover the world and then would be beaten to death by his fellow cavemen for telling the truth about it. I am not saying that Jim tells only the truth as he tells his opinion (which is his right to do). I’m just saying this whole scene reminds me of that story…

    Interestingly enough, after he gave BotW a 7/10, all you BotW-fanboys come here at once to make sure he dared not give Horizon a better score. Which he did, so you bitch around. Perfectly understandable. Still, everybody is entitled to his opinion. I too think that BotW is never 10/10 for some of those reasons Jim mentioned. On the other hand, I don’t think Horizon is a 9.5/10 either. More like a 8.5. At any rate, I think it is, all the differences aside, the better game that players can enjoy more because it does not try to frustrate the player all the time. But everybody to their liking.

  • Adam Southcott

    All thes people bitching and whining, saying the game’s bland and has no story ect, obviously have not played the game.

    It has ample story and great combat with side quests that aren’t repetetive like most open world games these days.

    You Nintendo fan boys need to grow the fuck up (he didn’t even give Zelda a bad review for fuck sake) you’re shitting on a good game cause you didn’t like someone elses opinion on a different fucking game. You’re a bunch of fucking mongaloids