Podquisition Episode 118: Skeleton Warnings

https://soundcloud.com/jimquisition/podquisition-episode-118-skeleton-warnings

(Yep, Soundcloud embeds are proper fucked on the site now. Just click the link)

The nature of skeletons, rabbit sex antics, and the highness of the woman in the song about a woman being high. What more could you want?

Videogame talk? We got that as well. Thoughts on For Honor, reactions to the Breath of the Wild season pass, and more Nioh bollocks.

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Marcus Cohen
Guest
Marcus Cohen

“Story content”? What the hell? It’s called a story. Nice and simple.

suaviant
Guest
suaviant

Anyone else reckon “Welcome to the Family” should be the new podquisition theme? 😉

Alexander Douglas Miller
Guest
Alexander Douglas Miller

Now you’ll have to produce a pin or t-shirt with the logo ‘Warning: Skeleton Inside’

Clenchmask
Guest
Clenchmask

I thought it was Skellingtons…

Awful
Guest
Awful

Hm, your guys’ critique of For Honor is interesting. You guys seem to not like the fact that the game is a….game. Jim brings up Overwatch as an example of a game with “love” poured into it but as someone who plays games for GAMEPLAY, having “interesting” characters and “deep” lore is just filler (omg one of the characters is gay!! but how does that improve the game?). Give me a game that’s a video game and everything else is just gravy.

That being said, I’m not buying the game because of the cash shop shit.

George
Member

hmmm…The age old question of mechanics vs narrative.

I actually agree with you. I think that gameplay/mechanics are more important than narrative or lore. Without good mechanics the lore/narrative is meaningless since the player can not interact with game properly or sometimes at all if the mechanics are shit.

…The only exception is in visual novels or some point and click adventures but in those cases, how the player chooses to explore the narrative becomes a mechanic in and of itself.

twigcollins
Guest
twigcollins
For me, personally, it’s pretty much the opposite. Not to say I have a problem with players who purely enjoy games for the gameplay, but unless I have a compelling reason to be pushing the buttons – fascinating characters, an interesting world, a moral conundrum – I don’t really care about pushing the buttons in a slightly new way. So I can overlook mechanical flaws in a game that has a good story, whereas a mechanics player can overlook a bad story if the gameplay is satisfying. I think it’s just a matter of preference – and that it’s not… Read more »
Alexander Douglas Miller
Guest
Alexander Douglas Miller
Yep, while I can play a game like Overwatch without feeling any need for a single player campaign or an ongoing story, though it has some okay backstory which I don’t mind, I do like it when there’s an overarching narrative that I’m exploring – like in Dark Souls or Bloodborne, Nioh or Planescape Torment, at least for solo play. In the latter’s case I can overlook the flaws in the mechanics, but a really dull or convoluted story just turns me off e.g. Kingdoms of Amalur and Metal Gear Solid. I did enjoy Legacy of Kain though, I must… Read more »
Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

What about games like PES 17 where there is no narrative at all but as you play the game, a narrative which is unique to that save game unfolds and by the of the season you have many different stories to tell.

In short what do you think about games that let you create the narrative.

twigcollins
Guest
twigcollins
I haven’t played PES 17, so I can’t comment on it specifically, but I’m more of a Witcher 3 than Skyrim player generally, so procedurally generated events on their own aren’t usually enough to keep me interested. (Of course, this all depends on the genre as well – I wouldn’t expect the next Forza Motorsport game to involve a multilayered narrative and loyalty missions (although it would go on the top of my ‘to buy’ list if they did.) Emergent gameplay has a lot of potential, though, and I imagine it’s only going to become more complex and nuanced from… Read more »
George
Member

If a game can successfully balance both that is the best case scenario. Doom was a good example and so was Tell Tail’s The Walking Dead (Which I think is more a survival horror rather than a point and click adventure).

Oh yeah, and it comes down to personal taste for sure. I would never shit on a person who likes narrative over mechanics. Different people want different experiences.

YoDude
Guest
YoDude

I personally need the narrative in a game.

For Honor is a game I absolutely love mostly for the aesthetic of tearing people apart as a burly viking. The fact my gamer friends all play it with me helps.

Narrative I found it caustic. I’m hardly an aficionado my idea of the pinnacle of gaming storyline is Legacy of Kain, which looking back isn’t close to perfect but it was the game that Kickstart dd my love of dark things.

I think it was my first start into my emo phase tbh. Way back when I was just a kid.

Cinebeast
Guest

Laura’s on the Super Best Friendcast? Is she the new Liam?!

And a Steven Universe podcast! It’s a good thing the weekend just started. I’ve got some listening to do.

Darren
Guest
Darren

it’s too bad that the friendcast was overwhelmed with false rumors and transphobes tho 🙁 made it really hard to focus on jus the podcast

Chürz
Guest
Chürz

Good thing you warned us about skeletons, otherwise someone might have gotten triggered. OH NOES! WOE IS ME!

Silver Dragon
Member

The many locations of the worlds whose name bring vivid memories of glorious conflict-deciding battles:

Juno Beach. Imo Jiwa. Vimy Ridge. Baden Hill. THE PUDDLE.

Luke Cassar
Member

I’m guessing you mean Iwo Jima

Silver Dragon
Member

Yes. I will blame the fake news media and claim that name as an alternative fact.

Luke Cassar
Member

Damn media… we should also take a minute in remembrance to the Bowling Green Massacre.

Sperium3000
Member

And now people are realizing what For Honor really is: A Fighting Game. And it’s too bad they didn’t make that clear in the promotion, because people who aren’t into fighting games are slamming against this game hard like baby seals against a wall of tempered concrete.

And Laura has to understand that sentiment because she was in the Super Best Friendcast this week and just listened for 20 or so minutes straight as Pat and Woolie gushed over this game and discussed the tiniest of mechanics with startling detail. How many people here know what “Tech-ing the throw” is?

Luke Cassar
Member

I’m a fan of Mount & Blade and War of the Roses, and I find this to be an arcadey version of that. I’m not a fan of fighters, but in this context I really enjoyed For Honor.

Sperium3000
Member

That too, but there *is* a lot of fighting games stuff here. If you can look past it (if you’re not into fighters), good.

BAH!
Member
BAH!

As a brother to someone who is pretty deep in the Smash Brothers community, I think I know…

florian
Guest
florian

Clearly the nes classic was not intended for couch gaming, just go sit on the floor to play.

stands back to watch the new rage

BAH!
Member
BAH!

It’s funny you should say that, because that was exactly my reaction. It’s not a good idea, obviously, but I wouldn’t doubt if that was the intention.

ENAY
Guest
ENAY

First JonTron, then Boogie2988. I can’t wait for Jim Sterling to get red pilled. I’m hoping sooner rather than later.

George
Member

GET OFF THE WEED! GET OFF THE INTERNET! GO OUTSIDE FOR A WALK!!!!!

Terry-Osaurusus Hex XI
Member

Spoken like the truly indoctrinated. Astounding.

Nitrium
Member

Red Pill is “the painful truth of reality” (as opposed to Blue Pill which is “blissful ignorance of illusion”). So I guess ENAY is saying Jim is living in a fantasy world or something. Maybe he’ll clear it up.

qorl123
Guest
qorl123

Wha…what do you mean?

ENAY
Guest
ENAY

Jim has actually become a borderline SJW at this point, something which until recently he has been very proud of not being.
He’s a funny and intelligent guy though so I have a lot of faith that he is going to wake up soon and come to his senses and stop virtue signalling.

Chris
Member

I sincerely hope this is an attempt at being ironic, or else you have never, ever read or listened to or watched anything Jim has ever created before. This kind of shit is just depressing, and why I think the internet has pretty much doomed us as a society. See also: the modern Republican party.

ENAY
Guest
ENAY

Naturally I’ve seen almost all of JIm’s content, which is why it pains me to see him fast becoming a virtue signaller on twitter. He should just stick to what he’s good at, videogame jurnaliszm.

Chris
Member

Ahh, okay that makes sense. You’re an idiot. That explains it. Thanks for clearing that up.

ENAY
Guest
ENAY

Insults are your only defense? Well that’s this end of this discussion then. Come back when you’ve discovered rational thinking.

Octopus Grift
Member

This is what I don’t get about this whole virtue signaling thing, you just made a big show of being offended by a person insulting you and how rational you are isn’t that basically what virtue signaling is?

Chris
Member

It wasn’t an insult, just a realization that I was talking to someone who uses “virtue signaling” unironically and therefore is, objectively, an idiot. Come back when you grow out of this internet tough guy, misogynist troll phase.

Benj
Member
Benj

It’s a shame that “smug cynical cliches masquerading as enlightened aloofness signalling” doesn’t have the same snappiness.

qorl123
Guest
qorl123

Oh I see, you’re one of THOSE guys.

Anton
Member
Anton

Shouldn’t you be at the Daily Stormer?

Luke Cassar
Member

got any more alt right cliche’s you wanna spout?

Rachel McVeigh
Guest
Rachel McVeigh

the concept of ‘virtue signalling’ relies on the fact that you don’t think people have empathy for others and are only saying nice things to be liked rather than because they actually believe that people shouldn’t be racist, homophobic pricks .

Not all people lack empathy. Jim definitely doesn’t lack empathy

Jack Philipson
Member

Empathy is overrated. You don’t need to feel somebody’s pain to alleviate it.

Rachel McVeigh
Guest
Rachel McVeigh

Empathy doesn’t necessarily mean you can feel someone’s pain, it means you can the understand and share the feelings of another.

You need to understand a person’s emotions to help alleviate the issue, because if you don’t then you don’t see the pain someone is feeling you see them as an inconvenience or complaining for no reason.

the ability to have empathy for each other and other animals is one of the defining aspects of humanity

qorl123
Guest
qorl123

People like enay sure have a grim view of human society, don’t they.

ENAY
Guest
ENAY

Actually I have a positive view on the matter, you just made up that fact just there by yourself. “People like” ? The human society grimness isn’t coming from me.

BAH!
Member
BAH!

As a whole, we *are* kinda shit…

Nitrium
Member

The Red Pill is “the painful truth of reality” (as opposed to Blue Pill which is “blissful ignorance of illusion”). So I guess ENAY is saying Jim is living in a fantasy world or something. Maybe he’ll clear it up.

Alexander Douglas Miller
Guest
Alexander Douglas Miller

Of course the term red pill normally means “what we believe” vs the blue pill meaning “what you believe”, like a cult member telling a member of another cult that they’re deluded. Pot, Kettle, black.

Oliver Mendes
Member

This podcast got real furry real fast

Cinebeast
Guest

and yet not fast enough

twigcollins
Guest
twigcollins

“If you get into it in a way that you shouldn’t, it’s quite fun.” – Jim Sterling

This may be my favorite thing you’ve said yet.

JackieGoOutside
Guest

I didn’t mind Laura’s cat…

Jennifer
Guest
Jennifer

I have no idea what you’re talking about regarding Dark Souls and blocking. I blocked my way through the whole of the first game. It’s better than trying to use the broken dodge button. It gives a very different experience, certainly – Ornstein and Smough are trivial if you take down Ornstein first that way, and Gwyn is basically impossible (I ended up cheesing him with Iron Body and a face-race with my Black Knight Greataxe) – but I find it odd you’d think it was a bad strategy.

Anton
Member
Anton

I agree. Dark Souls has always had perfectly viable blocking. The comment here seem to be based on Bloodborne.

Jennifer
Guest
Jennifer

I haven’t played Bloodborne, just seen a let’s play of it. As far as I can tell the shield option there is the plank shield, an obvious joke item, so it seemed odd when Jim mentioned not blocking bosses, specifically. “Don’t use joke items against bosses” seems so obvious it wouldn’t need to be said. But yes, fair enough, I probably just didn’t keep up with the context being discussed.

George
Member

The cat puns were so torturous…and it was awesome…the pain was wonderful. hahaha

Also, This news of a season pass in Breath Of The Wild is a big turn off and just adds more reasons for my coming retirement from consoles …although I will still get Breath Of The Wild (minus the season pass) as my last hoorah, it still looks cool after all.

The Chairman
Guest
The Chairman

24:27 “And it is *very* moddable.” Well, at least it’s got that going for it. The Mini is kind of a hard sell with the games pre-installed; sure, it’s got the Marios (except for Lost Levels; Japan’s SMB2), and Zeldas, and even a few 3rd party hits from Konami & Capcom, but there are some odd omissions. For example, the US version has Final Fantasy as an exclusive, the Japanese version gets Final Fantasy III as an exclusive, but no region gets Final Fantasy II.

Nitrium
Member

Yeah but if you’re going to hack it and load it full of illegal pirated warez, then you might as well save yourself a lot of money and just build a Raspberry Pi based Nintendo compatible console with ALL of the games for $35. Oh and it emulates Amiga, Apple II, Atari, 3D0, Gamecube, Dreamcast, Megadrive, Playstation 1 and 2, Wii etc too.
http://lifehacker(DOT)com/how-to-turn-your-raspberry-pi-into-a-retro-game-console-498561192

Michael Prymula
Member
I for one am very excited for Sniper:Ghost Warrior 3 and Ghost Recon Wildlands. Other games coming out in April and May:ATV Renegades, Flatout 4, Stardew Valley collectors edition, Micro Machines World Series, Syberia 3, Valhalla Halls Definitive edition, Little Nightmares, LEGO City Undercover, The Silver Case, ArmaGallant: Decks of Destiny, the new Prey game, Injustice 2, Portal Knights, Birthdays the Beginning, RiME, MXGP3: Motocross, Redout and Sonic Mania. Metro Last Light sectioned off Ranger mode(which was apparently due to an agreement with THQ) I enjoyed that photo of Jim and the NES Classic, partially because two of the games… Read more »
Gary Hall
Member

Shes so high isn’t that by tal bachman, Nintendo always made unusal decision. Surprised the y have survived the console wars

Concubinary Code
Member

Four Year Strong are an actual band. They play pop punk and are quite good.

Also the crash trilogy comes out in June too! Whooo!

Also remember when Metro:LL had a hard mode as a pre-order incentive? Ha ha

Michael Prymula
Member

Not a pop-punk fan, I personally despise bands like Good Charlotte, Fallout Boy and Simple Plan.

Polishfury5000
Member

I would hesitate calling those bands pop-punk. They’re closer to alt-rock, or a mainstream emo.

Proper pop-punk is just punk rock without all the angst, and none of those bands really have a punk rock sound.

Nitrium
Member

Is Greenday pop-punk? The Prodigy?

Polishfury5000
Member

I’d say Greenday’s early stuff was, like pre-Dookie

Concubinary Code
Member

Semantics. Regardless of how you classify the bands he’s describing they don’t make good music in general. And pop punk is probably the most angsty genre in music. (besides maybe deathcore)

Polishfury5000
Member

Yeah, I agree those bands don’t do anything for me. Don’t agree on the angst though.

Pop-punk is just harmless punk rock. It’s more refined and not as raw. There can certainly be traces of anarchy in pop-punk bands, but it’s usually not a running theme.

What would you consider an angsty pop-punk band?

Concubinary Code
Member

Early blink comes to mind as well as their contemporaries from around that time. Green day, yellow card, new found glory. Then you have the new wave of bands like aforementioned four year strong, menzingers, and the wonder years which all capture that youthful sound.

Polishfury5000
Member

I agree with all those, and good pick on the menzingers, enjoyed last year’s album.

I still toss those into the ol mix from time to time. Just some harmless fun to listen to.

Concubinary Code
Member

I concur. It’s not my favorite genre by any margin but it’s fun to spin once a blue moon and listen to the new and upcoming bands on the scene. Menzingers just released a new album dealing with the pains of turning 30 that I thought made a different take on their sound in case you were interested. Unless that’s the album you meant that came out last year and I’m waaay behind on release dates.

Polishfury5000
Member

I’m really behind too. I looked out of curiosity, and the album I liked was 2014.

Going to have to check out that new one, though sounds like it’ll hit weirdly close to home.

An album about turning 30 that came out the week I turned 30 is a type of omen that I don’t know if I can deal with lol.

Concubinary Code
Member

Fair enough dude lol

Concubinary Code
Member

Well as everyone knows all pop punk sounds like that.

Landy Alexander
Guest
Landy Alexander

Damn it jim! I have by browser to block things tagged ‘contains skeletons’ and then I get basically assaulted with this bullshit without even a warning.

craze
Guest
craze

an hour twelve!? is that allowed anymore???!!!

thank god for podquisition

Anton
Member
Anton

I never got the sentiment that Overwatch provides any significant depth to its universe. Yeah, there are some pretty cool character designs, but they serve no purpose other than provide a blank canvas for thousands of tomes of erotic fan fiction.

Yeah, generic manly viking men are lazier, but ultimately it all seems to amount to the same thing.

Jack Philipson
Member

I think devs often underestimate the capacity of their audience to keep up with their world building. Only RPG writers seem happy to go light on the explanations and let players gain their own understanding of the world through dialogue and observation.

Sperium3000
Member

I wouldn’t call it lazy. I mean, it’s supposed to be historic accurate to what those warriors were back in ye old times. And as someone who is a bit of a history buff, I legit love the designs in For Honor. Though I say that having my favorite being the female Raider, who is this big beefy viking lady. She can pillage MY village, if you know what I’m sayin’.

InfamousDS
Member
InfamousDS

I played Overwatch for about a month and a half. I know nothing about any of the characters except that Soldier 76 and Reaper used to be normal-ish thanks to my Origins Edition forced buy-in on PS4.

If a game can’t take the time to tell me about the people I’m playing, i can’t take the time to go look it up on my own. There’s no initial investment to pique my interest.

Anton
Member
Anton

Sounds like you’ve never experienced Destiny’s Grimoire cards, AKA the greatest plot delivery method ever conceived by man.

InfamousDS
Member
InfamousDS

I lived vicariously through my brother, who didn’t even bother to make a Bungie account to read his cards.

Sperium3000
Member

I could argue with you, but instead I’ll ask you to visit this site where you’ll find my argument instead.

Jerry
Guest
Jerry

Fucking soundcloud makes you log in to download now. So annoying.

astra
Guest
astra

For gav

Oni ki works as super armor instead of stamina
When they’re out theyll still attack but your hits stagger them and interrupt their moves

Gorantharon
Member

Unless when they don’t.

There’s some bosses, for instance, who can still use moves that grant them hyper armor even during no ki and the only thing you can do is learn by experience.

There might be an internal deign logic to it, but several of Nioh’s systems are like that, where they have exceptions that aren’t necessarily obvious.

Parry are also a bit of a “can I not parry taht or does my timing suck?” thing.

astra
Guest
astra

The only moves like that are ones that create yokai realms
Not just for bosses. All Oni will eventually use that and interrupting that would just be broken lol

And i never parry so i can’t comment there lol

Gorantharon
Member

I’m not talking about the ki recharge moves. Those make perfect sense.

Several of the bosses have very short wind up moves and if they get to start them you can’t interrupt them although their ki is gone.

Hino-Enma charge and grab for instance, which she can definitely initiate between swings of some of the slower stances / weapons.

The mechanics are just inconsistent.

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