• Jamesworkshop

    download for later listening

    • Anton

      Keep us posted, bro.

      • Jamesworkshop

        sometime later…..

        • InfamousDS

          So much later that the old Narrator quit and they had to hire a new one.

  • InfamousDS

    I started this when they said that Nintendo copied Sony:
    For the record, Nintendo has been doing “Handheld on TV” since the late 80’s/early 90’s. There was a GameBoy adapter for the NES, SNES, N64, and GCN (2 here, in fact). Wii had download play for the DS (which had limited main screen uses in certain games and apps, not system-wide like the other examples) and the Virtual Console had handheld games. WiiU carried this tradition from the Wii instead of the previous Gen where you could play your whole library on the TV.
    Switch is the first system with shared libraries, but the idea itself is not new, and was not created by Sony exclusively.

    • diamond

      They kinda did.

      • InfamousDS

        So Nintendo copied Sony’s VitaTV in 1994 with the Super Game Boy. Color me shocked that they were able to do that.

        Unrelated, but you managed to make me look up something and learn I was wrong about the NES having a GameBoy Player. You could have pointed that out instead of the factually inaccurate statement you did make, but hey: Making an argument is hard.

        • diamond

          Thought you stopped responding to me? So much for that.

          You’re not making an argument yourself at all.

          • InfamousDS

            I did stop. That comment chain was going nowhere and I left you alone when you responded to others. I even ignored you for several hours despite you responding directly to me twice on this page alone.

            But some things just need to be responded to, like Jim and the state of Steam. Stating that Nintendo copied Sony just because you wanted to say the opposite of what I said was one of those times.
            Saying I have no argument, when the sum total of my original argument was:
            “Don’t forget Nintendo made this stuff before Sony” and the sum total of yours was “That didn’t happen”. It deserved a response of “Uh, yes it did. Here is the proof”.

          • diamond

            Yes, the comment chain where you were too lazy to read one of my posts.

          • InfamousDS

            Laziness had nothing to do with it. You are the only one not willing to see that.

          • diamond

            You still didn’t read the post and assumed I wrote something I did not, which as far as i’m concerned makes anything you say on this page irrelevant.

            You seem to be the only one not willing to see that you actually were being lazy.

          • InfamousDS

            When I stop being interested about something, I stop dealing with it pretty unilaterally. Even now, I’m only reading your posts out of mild curiosity as to what nonsense you’ll fabricate to make me into the villain of your story. I don’t care about you. I used to, when it seemed like you might make interesting conversation at some point in the future. But that was naive, and frankly stupid of me.

            I’ve been blocking and unblocking you all day out of a combination of self-imposed guilt and curiosity making me unblock and exasperation making me block again. I don’t think I’ll be unblocking you again.

          • galactix100

            Been there, done that, morbid curiosity won.

          • diamond

            Good, you’re looking like a complete fool with swearing to never respond again and then responding the very next day.

            You are being naive and stupid by assuming you’re the one in the right here, when clearly you are not. Also you were the one who started this whole thing, you went after me for my comment about Nintendo fanboys for no real reason, so you kind of are the villain here, you’re just too thick-headed and focused on your own pride to actually admit it.

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            No one who calls you out on your ignorant trolling is ever the villain in these threads. It’s a far, distant hope to be sure, but the hope you might gain even an ounce of self awareness of how petulant and immature you look arguing like a snotty little kid with your ‘Am not!’ and ‘I know you are but what am I?’ levels of rhetorical skills is something worth striving for. Or just going away, that would be nice too.

          • InfamousDS

            I found out today Disqus has a major flaw where the text is loaded before the user interface, and you can break it to ignore any user settings. It shows deleted posts and posts made by blocked users.

            Just leaving this here, with no commentary related to the person you were responding to. I know what he said though, and I smiled.

          • drownedsummer

            Fairly sure you can do that with something like No Script on Firefox where it blocks all the scripts.

          • InfamousDS

            Maybe, but I can’t really play with add-ons at work. Too much red tape.

          • drownedsummer

            Being a system admin does have advantages.

          • diamond

            you wish fool

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            Oh we know you’re not going away. You just go by a new screen name now, Darksteel6. But please, keep up this pathetic attempt to pretend that you aren’t literally the only person still talking about Metroid Prime Federation Force and that this is two different people. It’s funny.

          • Andrzej Sugier

            I’m also pretty sure it’s an alter ego, but it seems to be a tad more reasonable. Maybe by a chain of alt accounts we might one day get to someone worthwhile.

          • drownedsummer

            It could be someone else but the avatar being an image of Alpha Protocol rather supports that idea.

          • diamond

            dumbfuck

        • RifleAvenger Sashiro

          Sony has secret access to time travel confirmed.

    • George

      I was thinking of the super gameboy as well. The whole switch idea reminded me of the super game boy actually.

      • InfamousDS

        Best part of my Gamecube was the GBA Player. Great way to double it’s usability and open up my library to a lot of cheap and great games for in-between the big releases.

    • MJC

      “There was a GameBoy adapter for the NES”

      Well, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Moving swiftly on…

      • InfamousDS

        Would have been better if the first person to respond to me had said that instead of “Nuh-uh, Sony did it first!”

        This was a matter of false memories. I looked it up when I was getting the year the Super Game Boy first came out to show that Nintendo had done it about 2 decades before Sony.

  • Rachel McVeigh

    I disagree with there being a disconnect between the narrative sense of urgency in Mass Effect 3 & the gather resources bit.

    Yes the Reapers had just attacked Earth, but the entire reason you weren’t on Earth fighting them was a gather resources and allies to fight them. Every bit of metal I discovered or special ops team I came across while planet scanning were extra resources for the Crucible or the Citadel Fleet. The more resources gathered the more help I had in taking back Earth.

    Even the parts of the game that where downtime, like the Citadel DLC made sense to me because people need to relax or they’ll make mistakes and a mistake here could mean the Reapers win.

    Whereas in Skyrim, most of what I was doing had literally nothing to do with stopping the Alwin, I didn’t need to gather allies or resources, I didn’t even really need to stop the Civil War, I was just dicking about, not saving the world from a Dragon.

    • Anton

      Agreed – the crappy fetch quests in ME3 felt inconsequential, but everything you did contributed to the final push – at least, according to the story.

      • InfamousDS

        Not only that, but Laura (rightfully) points out that several main characters in Zelda say “Hey, you goan die again. Chillax”.

        The first big story quest after the tutorial is 2 parts: Part 1 is explore the world to see how it has changed/who needs help and part 2 is make your Slate work again.

        Jim and Gav are overthinking this. It isn’t a Bioware/Bethesda open world where the apocalypse is literally gonna happen any second without the special snowflake PC. Link is important, but he isn’t a major player in this. You have to fix the world before you can save it.

        • diamond

          I don’t think they are “overthinking” anything.

          • RifleAvenger Sashiro

            It’s best to back up your opinion with an actual argument (like InfamousDS is doing versus Jim and Gavin’s), if you want it to come across as a sincere attempt to defend your point of view instead of being a lazy contrarian.

            “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.” – Douglas Adams

          • diamond

            It’s best for you to shut the hell up.

            Only one being lazy here is you.

          • RifleAvenger Sashiro

            Tsk tsk, falling back on insults again I see. That’s certainly not going to convince anyone your opinion is worth considering. Definitely not going to persuade me to “shut up” either.

            How am I being lazy? If I wanted to be lazy, I wouldn’t respond to you at all. I only do it because I hold out some hope that you can be convinced to actually debate rather than throw out one-line opinions with their only defense being that it’s your opinion, and the occasional angry tantrum.

            It’s not that I don’t wish to hear what you think, it’s that I want to hear the why behind it too. That you believe something because you believe it is uninteresting and unconvincing. If you believe people should share that opinion without explaining the reasoning too, well that’s simply arrogant.

          • diamond

            Never once said anything like what you said, so no nothing arrogant there.

            Sounds like you’re the only one throwing a “tantrum” here.

          • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

            Always the same asshole on this site you take your role seriously diamond

          • diamond

            moron

          • RifleAvenger Sashiro

            “Never once said anything like what you said.”

            So you don’t respond to posts just saying “I don’t think they are ‘overthinking’ anything” or “Well, I like X” without any further elaboration? Oh, wait, the former is right in this comment chain with no elaboration on why you think that.

            Or did you mean that you never believe people should share your opinions? Because if you don’t, why respond to posts with one liners whose only argument is that you feel otherwise for unexplained reasons? Surely that suggests you believe that your opinion being your opinion is sufficient argument to overturn their points, or else you would elaborate? Or is it just that you like shitposting your vapid opinions with no intention of ever engaging in real debate?

          • diamond

            or I don’t think shitheads like you are worth responding to.

          • RifleAvenger Sashiro

            Then don’t do it? Responding by calling me a shithead is still responding.

          • diamond

            fucking moron.

          • RifleAvenger Sashiro

            See, you’re still doing it! I can only conclude that deep down, you love and need your haters, you big ol’ tsundere you.

          • Anton

            See, this is why no one likes you.

          • diamond

            hardly nobody, that’s quite the arrogant statement to make.

          • Anton

            And yet, somehow I’m pretty comfortable with it. You’ve antagonized a great many regulars here.

          • diamond

            yet somehow i’m comfortable with calling you a dumbass.

          • InfamousDS

            1 line consisting of seven words and sarcasm at the terms I used.
            Versus:
            A full paragraph of measured criticism followed by a quote to back up the criticism.

            Clearly one of these has much less effort.

          • diamond

            whatever, BTW so much for you not wanting to respond to me anymore, can’t resist eh?

          • galactix100

            I’m pretty sure that was me and that was just on the topic of GRWL’s depiction of Bolivia.

          • diamond

            wasn’t talking about you

          • galactix100

            Ah, ok. Maybe there’s a lesson to be learned from the fact that someone’s decided they don’t want to interact with you.

          • diamond

            He said the same thing yesterday though and then came right back, so i’m doubting on how long he can actually keep up that vow.

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            How long are you going to keep up the claim that you only insult people who insult Jim? Oh wait, you’ve already broken that haven’t you? Whoops.

          • diamond

            whoops for you dumbfuck

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            Oh? Switching back to the old account? Trying to lend credence to your sock puppeting? Wonder what Disqus’ rules are on that?

            And what does that even mean? Once again, you insulted me, and I’ve never insulted or attacked JIm. So once again, you’ve proven me right and proven that you are a hypocrite or a liar.

          • diamond

            dumbfuck, you’ve proved nothing.

          • Brendan Christopher Marks

            I like you Diamond. To all the naysayers who deride this majestic master of well reasoned debate, you can go and………. wait……. oh sorry I was mistaken in the above statement. There was no reason. There was no debate. Just the usual antagonistic 1 line rhetoric. You do you Diamond, just remember that it’s anonymity that you hid behind rather than an argument that you stand by.

            *Condescending head pat*

            On your way, son.

          • diamond

            OK, wipe the cum off your keyboard creepo.

          • Brendan Christopher Marks

            But if I do that, how will I be able to wax lyrical about you with saccharin sweet platitudes lauding your successes on high? I want your love juices. All of them, Diamond. I’ve been watching you post and I have to say I’m impressed and want more of you. Please, Diamond, give me more!

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            Less than 24 hours ago I remember someone claiming they never insult anyone unless they’re insulting Jim first. Weird how that doesn’t actually hold true at all.

          • galactix100

            He never bothers, I had a big debate with him about the new Ghost Recon where he made one weak point then threw insults at me every time a countered his ‘arguments’.

        • darksteel6

          It depends on the game for me, I didn’t find it too bothersome in Fallout 4 or Mass Effect 3, but I found it very noticeable and distracting in Red Dead Redemption, Infamous 2 and Arkham City.

          I wouldn’t necessarily say they are overthinking it, it’s largely a personal thing. The way Jim describes Zelda makes it sound like something I would find very distracting.

          • InfamousDS

            That’s what I meant by overthinking though. He is looking at specific details instead of the whole picture.

            (Hyperbolic Example Alert) If I complained about the Mona Lisa because of her eye color and the kind of dress she wears, and not its merits as a painting or the kind of emotional affect it had on me, people would tell me I’m over-thinking it. My opinion is perfectly valid and acceptable regardless, but I’d get called out for it.

    • SilentPony

      I dunno, spending my time playing arcade games and combat simulators and eating Sushi took some of the edge away.
      I mean fuck, Citadel was a comedy! The Naked Gun of Mass Effect.

      • Rachel McVeigh

        That was the point though. To cut the tension and give Shep a chance to relax & connect with her friends before the end.

        • Anton

          Citadel was a better ending than the ending. It’s almost better to just stop immediately after and just think that Shep and company all perished in the final battle.

          • SilentPony

            Nah, they won. Citadel takes place after the ‘official’ ending. Its how they celebrate victory.

          • Anton

            Not sure if sarcastic.

          • SilentPony

            Dead. Serious.

          • galactix100

            Citadel was fucking great. One of my favourite ever DLCs. It also how every series should end, either that or make it the whole game like Saint’s Row 4.

      • More than that, though. Chronologically and thematically, Citadel is your goodbye to the series and the characters.

    • Za_Docta

      I felt like, as the person in charge of everything in Mass Effect, I should be able to delegate those kinds of menial gathering tasks.

      • InfamousDS

        If a 5-Star General came up to me and said “We need your help to win the war”, I might take it a little more seriously than an infantry soldier. Unless I was drafted, then all bets of my personal opinion go out the window.

      • drownedsummer

        A lot of this is due to player character syndrome where the player character has to do everything. I always find that the fourth episode of Walking Dead is a good example of this is in Crawford. The group have all split up to do different tasks but nothing occurs until Lee interacts with any of them.

  • Spurious K

    Is there anything in this week’s episode that isn’t about the Switch/Zelda?

    • Anton

      I would assume there’s an obligatory dicks&butts segment near the end.

      • Chris

        *near the middle or 2/3rds in

    • Geebun

      There’s some Horizon, Nier : Automata and Mass Effect but it’s mostly those 2 things.

      • Spurious K

        Thanks, I guess I’ll skip this one.
        Am just very burned out on hearing about Zelda. Or just console exclusives in general. There’s been discussion on a lot of apparently great ones lately and there’s no way I can play any of them, by way of explanation.

        Can’t wait for the times of no big releases to come about again to hear about all the random guff that Jim/Laura have scraped up from somewhere to play some more.

        • darksteel6

          Even as someone as who’s not really a Zelda fan, I think this episode is still worth listening to, if only because it’s nice to hear a Zelda conversation which isn’t nothing but circle-jerking over the game(Which last week’s episode of Co Optional pretty much was, thankfully TB came back this week so he brought everyone back down to earth and pointed out flaws with the game)

  • GhostUrsa

    I find that with monster attacks I can’t dodge, either blocking with the shield or performing a parry helps there. (If you push A when the shield is up, you will do a parry motion much like Dark Souls.) Much like Dark Souls, it doesn’t work with every attack but it’s another option that really helps.

  • Anton

    NCR Ranger Armor is uber-cool, second only to the T51B, and the Vault jumpsuit with leather armor over it.

    In general, though, I love any and all armors Fallout games tend to have.

    • Lies That Bind

      I always wore the enclave tesla armor in 3. On top of looking cool and having no negative effects it was common enough for repairs.

    • drownedsummer

      The feral power armor in The Pit was cool however getting it however required getting all of the ingots. All 100 of them.

    • Chris Schwartz-Brown

      NCR ranger armor was great, I liked the desert variant from honest hearts better though. Although I was generally torn between wearing the mask on any of those or for like my first recon beret.

      For power armor I never cared for the t-45 or t-51 much, although the winterized variant from Operation Anchorage and the army paint job from fallout 4 helped. Enclave always had the better armor over the brotherhood though.

      • drownedsummer

        The best element of the Winterized combat armor is that Bethesda fucked the stats up on it.

        • Chris Schwartz-Brown

          That was definitely a plus, the rare time Bethesda’s shitty coding helped rather than hurt the player.

          That and the shock sword were the only reasons that awful dlc was even worth playing through. One of the many things obsidian did better than Bethesda was that the New Vegas dlc was universally better than the fallout 3 ones. (With the addendum that I installed but never got around to mothership zeta, but I’ve never heard anything about it to make me change my mind on that).

          • drownedsummer

            You can get a Samurai outfit?

          • InfamousDS

            The alien tech is also very OP. All the guns use a new ammo pool and are generally just plain better than the vanilla ones, and you got repair kits which work regardless of your skill level.

          • drownedsummer

            Wasn’t it just the same ammo as the alien blaster just without Mothership Zeta it is very limited. The guns were overpowered though.

          • InfamousDS

            I think they renamed it and removed/replaced the original alien ammo. Otherwise, yes.

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            See I never liked gimmick outfits like that in fallout. That’s just a personal taste thing, but that’s one of those games I always really got into having armor and gear that looks good on the setting. Same reason I almost never liked the swords as much as a nice sledge or the fire axe from honest hearts.

      • Anton

        The ranger variants in Lonesome Road were pretty cool too. Overdesigned, but still pretty sweet-looking.

        Admittedly, a big part of the T51B’s appeal to me is its iconic (actual, not Ubisoft iconic) status as the grandpappy of Fallout power armors. It was on the cover of the very first game.

        • Chris Schwartz-Brown

          I actually think that’s what turned me off of it honestly, I didn’t want the iconic fallout armor, I wanted something different.

          But then in New Vegas I saw the NCR ranger armor on the cover and immediately wanted that, so there you go. I think I also just prefer non power armor in general.

          The desert armor from honest hearts also had the benefit of being tied into the survivalist stuff which are the strongest pieces of writing in the whole series I think. Same reason I stuck with the desert combat rifle for the rest of the game once I had it.

    • I imagineif there’s one thing most people can agreen on with Bethesda’s Fallout games is that the art direction was fantastic. In FO3, anyway.

  • FERN.H.W.

    Headcannon.

    Link has brain Damage from the regeneration, he can’t talk anymore.

  • SilentPony

    I’m hearing an echo on all of Jim’s dialogue. Not that I mind. Double dip Jim is best Jim.

    • Anton

      Read that as “Double DP Jim is best Jim”

      • SilentPony

        Its like having both my ears penetrated twice by Jim.

  • Dave

    I might be in the minority here but I actually appreciate the weapon degradation system in Breath of the Wild. The reason why is because it encourages me to do the following:
    1. Experiment with different weapons
    2. Be smart with how I approach combat, and look to see if there’s an alternative to a direct approach. For example in one case I was able to use the magnet ability to swing a metal box around a camp to take out the enemies in the area.

    • diamond

      It sounds really goddamn annoying to me, at least in games like Dead Island and Dying Light you can repair degraded weapons.

      • GhostUrsa

        In BotW’s case, the same weapon/shield can in almost every case be easily tracked down for another copy. There is even a gameplay feature that allows you to activate a sonar that shows you when one is near so you can stock up or replace one that was broken. The only time this isn’t the case is with specific items you’ll pick up during the story, which is pretty easy to identify “hey, this is a one time use. Be careful!”

        • InfamousDS

          And all “loose” pick-ups respawn every week or so at midnight in-game time. I think vegetables respawn faster than that and animals respawn indefinitely unless they are rare like Fairies and Blupees.

          I ended up seeing and getting the same torch several times while attempting the Lost Woods, because I would get frustrated, leave, and come back (once was during the actual reset time).

        • Xyra

          Some of the “one time use” weapons can be replenished by NPCs too. There’s a particular spear you can get from the Zoras and when it breaks, you can nab another.

          Personally I have some elemental greatswords from shrine treasure chests that I cherish and virtually only pull out to swing once before switching to a cheap weapon, though. I’ll be pretty damn sad when I break them.

        • J Resurrección

          Those story ones are repairable if you are talking about the champion weapons, you just go back and have the right material and can make a new one.

    • Za_Docta

      It’s good that you put the qualifier that you might be the minority.
      That’s a taste thing. Me, I like to experiment with weapons until I find one that I like and then stick with that one weapon and master its every aspect and keep it fine-tuned, a la Dark Souls.
      So having no repair function doesn’t work so well for me.

  • GhostUrsa

    I can relate to Gav’s issue with feeling rushed in a game that doesn’t actually have time, though in this case the story does a good job of giving good canon as to why Link isn’t quite in a rush. The game treats Link like a new player in a way where he also has to discover ‘why’ things didn’t work and Zelda is fighting solo. Ganon’s threat feels is more like a mild dread that something sinister is coming than a massive sense of urgency.

  • Neto

    We all know that Gav’s only waifu is the Dancer of the Boreal Valley. 😉

    • Anton

      Hot, but not cuddly 🙁

  • diamond

    Xbox One is not “dead” Gavin, far from it LOL

    • SilentPony

      That’s right! For something to be dead it had to have been alive in the first place!
      ZING!

      • diamond

        Judging by the sales it’s most definitely alive.

        You heard about the Xbox Games Pass? now there’s a good deal if I saw one, 100 games for 10 dollars, holy shit.

        • Chris Schwartz-Brown

          That’s not a move that stinks of desperation from a platform holder that knows they have no good exclusives coming and that they are losing on multiplatforms to the PS4 or anything.

          Microsoft is at this stage in the consoles cycle where Sony was last gen, they are behind and likely going to start resorting to gimmicks to try to catch up. Until they just buckle down and focus on their next system while Sony gets over confident the way Microsoft did with the 360 and the roles reverse again.

          • diamond

            you’re right it’s not, it’s a smart move which many people have praised.

            You’re forgetting that Sony eventually caught up last-gen aren’t you? So if they can, Microsoft can too.

            Sony already is getting overconfident as evidenced by their statement that they are trying to compete with PC(yeah that totally won’t backfire on them).

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            Sony didn’t catch up last gen. The PS3 consistently undersold the 360 in every market outside of Japan and multiplatform titles outside of Japan sold better on the 360. They didn’t catch up until the start of the new cycle, which is what I think will happen this time. Sony’s PS5 or whatever they do next will overreach and will be overly focsed on the features they are convinced people liked this gen (probably VR for them, like it was Kinect for Microsoft at the launch of the Xbone) and meanwhile Microsoft will have gone back to the drawing board and realized, like they did with the 360, that they need to focus on their core strengths of making games run as well as possible and not sacrifice that for a bunch of features no one wants. The fire will fade, then be relinked, and the cycle will go on and on and on.

            While Nintendo quietly make more money than either of them on portable games and probably going forward mobile game development.

          • diamond

            with the Switch obviously being badly rushed with how many defects it is, that seems unlikely.

      • MJC

        Ah, this logic must be why people always try to convince me that the PS Vita isn’t dead.

  • diamond

    It does seem like we’re getting an avalanche of open-world games, fortunately it’s not so bad for me since I have zero interest in Zelda or Persona(not too sure about Nier Automata, as I agreed with Jim’s not-so-positive review of the first game and i’m concerned this game will have the same problems)

    Wildlands is the game that’s really sucking up my free time lately.

    I personally like trophies and achievements.

    Autotune is a perfectly valid technology, it’s not inherently bad.

    There are widespread issues with the Switch as this video shows:
    https://www(DOT)youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=Cb-srOfRqNc

    • Za_Docta

      Is that CrowBCat’s breakdown?

      • InfamousDS

        Probably. diamond doesn’t have to have opinions, since YouTubers have them ready in advance of him needing t make an argument. If no YouTuber is readily available, you get insulted and talked down to.

        • diamond

          not really no.

          Who the fuck is Crow B Cat?

          • RifleAvenger Sashiro

            “Who the fuck is Crow B Cat?”

            The account that posted the video you’re using as a source.

      • diamond

        yes

  • diamond

    It does seem like we’re getting an avalanche of open-world games, fortunately it’s not so bad for me since I have zero interest in Zelda or Persona(not too sure about Nier Automata, as I agreed with Jim’s not-so-positive review of the first game and i’m concerned this game will have the same problems)

    Wildlands is the game that’s really sucking up my free time lately.

    I personally like trophies and achievements.

    Autotune is a perfectly valid technology, it’s not inherently bad.

    There are widespread issues with the Switch as this video shows:
    https://www(DOT)youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=Cb-srOfRqNc

    • drownedsummer

      Why not just edit the original post?

    • MJC

      Autotune is a perfectly valid technology when it’s not being used to try and make someone who can’t sing worth shit sound acceptable enough to sell albums and concert tickets.

      • diamond

        Right, that’s the case with artists like Future(though even with Auto-Tune he sounds like shit). But I think it works pretty well for people like Demi Lovato, Taylor Swift, Katy Petty, and Kesha, as they are both perfectly capable of singing well without auto-tune as you can see from their live performances

        • J Resurrección

          I mean Future and other rappers who have use/use autotune don’t do it to “pretend to sound better” anyway thats why it’s so heavily done, it’s just a vocal effect that they like, not pretending to be singer.

  • darksteel6

    The Joycon sounds like a real pain in the ass, I have big hands like Jim and I can see it being uncomfortable to hold, so looks like if I ever do get a Switch in a year or two i’ll also have to get a Pro Controller.

    • drownedsummer

      So far I’ve not tried using them seperatly apart from when forced to do so as part of the system setup.Using the dock which turns them into a standard controller they seem fine although it does feel slightly flimsy. I plan on getting a Pro controller but probably at the end of the month.

      • darksteel6

        I’ve never bought a single console around launch, I just don’t see the point, I say better to wait until there are more games available(i’m always up for another No More Heroes game).

        Plus in a year or so I won’t have to deal with console shortages.

        • drownedsummer

          I was going to hold off then I watched Laura playing Zelda. Basically if you aren’t interested in Zelda it really isn’t worth it at the moment.

          • darksteel6

            Do you have a Wii U? Yahtzee recommended that people get BOTW on Wii U instead of the Switch since it’s cheaper that way.

          • FlamingoJet

            It isn’t though. Retail price of a Wii U is just about the same cost as that of the Switch. Then you have to factor in all the accessory bullshit and game.

          • Andrzej Sugier

            It’s cheaper if you already have Wii U, that was the point of the above sentence.

          • FlamingoJet

            That’s the ONLY way it’s cheaper.

    • Michael Campbell

      According to Jed, they are only a pain in the ass at first, then they slip in 😛

      • FlamingoJet

        That’s what she says.

  • SilentPony

    Actually my favorite armor mod in Fallout 4 was the one that gives you a full suit of Powered Armor that looks like a Big Daddy(both variants) from Bioshock, complete with a new power fist that looks like a drill, and a rivet gun.

  • YoDude

    I’m so glad the narrative pacing in open world games taken up. It drives me crazy in games with tons if shit to do when the main story doesn’t have breaks in it. Morrow in had excellent pacing where you as a Blade plant needed to leverage a reputation whereas in sat Skyrim or Fallout 4 you had to DO THE MAIN THINGS. Especially in Fallout 4! I had to head canon that my character had pretty much given up hope on finding her son but kept trying anyways out if desperation which allowed me to enjoy quests and exploration without the nagging need to go find my son.

    • MJC

      I actually found Fallout 4 really easy to deal with: Once the game went “you need to deal with our incredibly shitty Sims knockoff mechanics to advance the main quest” I immediately stopped caring about finding the son.

      …Come to think about it, I immediately stopped caring about playing Fallout 4 at all.

      • darksteel6

        I liked the town-building mechanics a lot more then I thought I would.

        • YoDude

          Same. It was weirdly kinda fun.

      • YoDude

        That’s some hardcore edge there. I bet you smoked a heroin out if a light bulb in highschool.

  • Geebun

    I find it kind of unfair to dismiss Nier : Automata as an “anime butt” game while it is the second highest rated game this year after Zelda with superb gameplay that rivals Bayonetta as far as character action go, an amazing soundtrack worthy of the original and from what I’ve seen a pretty insane and interesting story.

    ….2B and A2 being in the game helps too…

    • David Sayers

      I think the point was less ‘Nier: Automata is bad because anime butts’ and more ‘If you want to sell me on Nier: Automata, don’t lead with anime butts.’

    • Dariush

      Man, they are just 3 guys that pretend to be clever, and try to sound as they really are, but in the end, they just are sex driven animals. Its all about butts for them.

    • darksteel6

      Well Gavin wasn’t big on FF 15 either, so I don’t really seem him liking it anyways, in general it seems like he’s not a huge fan of JRPG’s(i’m the same way, I find them much less interesting then western RPGs).

      • Geebun

        but if I remember right, he’s a fan of bayonetta so the over the top character action side of things might win over the open world-ish JRPG side. Plus, I never said he was “wrong” for thinking he won’t like it but just saying it’s because it’s a anime butt game after seeing one gif seems like a bad reasoning.

        • darksteel6

          Bayonetta was a beat-em-up though so I don’t really see the similarities between it and Nier.

          I think it’s more then just that gif, Gavin in general isn’t big on JRPGs and there’s a ton of open-world games coming out right now, so he simply does not have the time for it.

          • Geebun

            Nier : Automata is made by Platinum games and while it has more RPG elements then their other titles, it does share the same character action core.

          • Geebun

            Nier : Automata is made by Platinum games and while it has more RPG elements then their other titles, it does share the same character action core.

            I’m not sure about you but after playing the demo, the early game(haven’t put that much time into it yet) and watching trailers…I see a lot more Bayonetta than Final Fantasy in it.

    • MJC

      You spelled Horizon: Zero Dawn wrong.

      Seriously, Horizon Zero Dawn is the second highest rated game this year after Zelda. Not Nier.

      • Geebun

        Nier is at a 90 average on metacritic and Horizon is at 89. Sure Nier doesn’t have as many reviews so it might change in the long run but so far I made no mistakes.

        • FlamingoJet

          “Metacritic”

          • Geebun

            What’s wrong with that? Like its existence or not, it still shows a good average of what the industry think about a game(as long as there’s enough reviews for it to mean anything).

          • FlamingoJet

            Lol, no no it doesn’t and that’s why it’s mocked by everyone.

            If you pay attention to Metacritic seriously, you are a fool

          • Geebun

            My only point was that A LOT of reviews scored it highly and that it was much more then just an anime butt game. That’s all I meant to say. I know some people take the score way too seriously and some publisher do some scummy bullshit because of it but if you use it well, it’s really not that bad of a website. it’s still just an average of scores and a quick way to see a lot of people opinions on a game.

            It’s the rottentomatoes of games. I’m not not going to see a movie I’ve been interested in if it has a 40% positive reviews but if I had to choose between 2 movies I’ve been meh about and one got a 80 while the other got a 40, it would help me the choice.

          • FlamingoJet

            I do, fuck Metacritic and it’s astroturfing, lying, bullshit.

            It is a joke.

            To my knowledge Rottentomatoes, doesn’t allow that kind of bullshit.

    • Lord Pug

      Nier is great. It’s quirky and high brow sci fi. As I said above one reviewer really loves Linkin Park and My Chemical Romance. Like they are on the same playing field as Radiohead. The thing with critics in certain field, they don’t have proper training. I’m not saying all, but a lot of them play video games and that’s their full “training”. If you were a critic or journalist for New York Times or Post, etc, you have to have a degree and proper apprenticeship. I find that lacking in lots of video game journals. Again before I get killed, not all, but more than any fields of media critique

    • MrAptronym

      Its a shame, but that is definitely what’s gotten the most attention, and I am sure Gavin isn’t alone in getting put off by it.

      Automata has a lot going for it, it’s witty, fast paced and has both a phenomenal soundtrack and sound design. The plot and gameplay do some interesting things that I’ve never seen before. However, the attention has definitely been on 2B’s B-hind and buying trophies, which is sort of a shame, because there is so much to talk about with this game.

  • Chris

    Hey Jim you forgot about the one huge criticism of Breath of the Wild… FUCKING RAIN!? RAIN!? FUCK YOU RAIN!
    (Ps. I love Zelda to bits. been playing non stop. a solid 9/10 game, but i love it so much I would give it a 10 in my heart of hearts… but every time rain comes around and stops me climbing the thing I was climbing I mutter “fuck you” every time)

    • MJC

      When I was playing today, I had to do a bunch of climbing and right as I got to the top and didn’t need to climb any more, it started raining. All I could do was laugh thinking about Jim’s tweets and Video Game Show What He Done.

    • Huttj509

      halfway up a huge arse pillar. Rain, thunderstorm, more rain, I just found a ledge, unequipped my metal, and came back in 10 minutes.

  • Chris

    Hey Jim! Do you think you’ll do a metabombed of Zelda? Or is there no comedy gold to mine from the 0/10 from people who haven’t played it and the 10/10 defenders?

  • George

    Jim, the image of the water vapour rising off your asa was…delicious…mmmmmmm

    😉

    And I really laughed ludo narrative disco biscuits.

  • darksteel6

    Link to the Past is one of Gavin’s favorite games eh? Wonder what he thinks about Yahtzee’s video on that game?

    • Chris Schwartz-Brown

      I don’t know, unlike you though diamond not everyone feels like it matters what way past their prime YouTubers think of games they like. They’re capable of having their own opinions.

      • darksteel6

        No duh, I know that, i’m just curious is all.

      • darksteel6

        I don’t care what people think of games I like and frankly i’m not sure why you think that I do, i’m not sure where on earth you got that idea from.

  • Sequoiasaur

    Strangest combat story I have for Breath of the Wild: I woke up a moblin and bokoblin, and the moblin didn’t have a weapon, so it grabbed the bokoblin and threw it at me! I was thinking “what the hell just happened?” as i stabbed the bokoblin in midair with my spear.

    • drownedsummer

      I took on the three Bokoblin’s next to the temple of time on fairly low health using the bow. While grabbing the meat they were cooking I set my arrow on fire and the noticed a mushroom next to a tree and promptly set the grass on fire and killed myself.

  • Remus

    I learned this urgency lesson DM’ing aswell. Don’t tell your players the world is about to explode if you want them to focus on anything else. Otherwise you loose all options for character development and side questing.

  • Cristian Popa

    This really shows what big babbis Jim, Laura & Gav are since they don’t even complain about the Fallout 2 GECK time pressure.

  • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

    Lets make bets about the zelda score my guess would be 8,5 with annotation as good as uncharted 4

    • drownedsummer

      A seven the review went up a few days ago.

      Edit: This isn’t the page for the latest episode is it.

      • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

        Yeah i know its kinda low but hey he still give great points even if i disagree wit some of it

        • drownedsummer

          A seven isn’t low.

          • Dany Rivest Gaudreault

            For botw it is imo ive would probably rate it around 8 or 9

  • EtosiGiR

    I would gladly pay a $10 fee every month to take away $1 from Laura Kate’s Patreon. Provided of course that the $10 bucks didn’t support something worse. Most things are worse than Laura Kate so I don’t really know how this all hashes out but yeah. As in the last “Yeah” from Dredd 2012.

  • Vaughan MacDonald

    Anyone else notice that Jim is becoming more and more and more disruptive in all the podcasts he’s in?

  • Lord Pug

    It’s cool to disagree, I think it’s great to hear different opinions. However it’s hard for me to respect the opinion of someone who thinks linkin park and my chemical romance are great. Its like saying Applebee’s and the French Laundry are similar

  • Infernofire

    I think the weapon durability system is in Breath of the Wild is an alternative to

    1. weapons and enemies leveling with you or enemies (like in oblivion for example)
    2. The game rarely throwing stronger enemies at you but the weaker enemies stay pitifully weak, since enemies do not level with you.

    The problem with system 1 is that it’s quite annoying to die to a measly rat when you’re equipped with the best armor and weapons in the game.
    The problem with system 2 is that the game becomes way to easy, since most of the you’ll be fighting enemies that are way below your level.
    The problem with breath of the wild system is that you can’t really use your favorite weapon for long. It mostly solves the problem with the difficulty scaling though, since you’re using weapons that are designed to be just strong enough to fight the enemies in that area. Increasing the durability on all the weapons would completely null the advantages that the system brings.

    My only gripe with the system is that you start with way too little weapon slots. If you started with three more slots or the slot upgrade system was available earlier and not missable, I would have no problems with it. As it is now, I can definitely see why some people hate it.

    In short, Weapon durabilty basically prevents you from becoming overpowered and breaking the game early on by strolling into an area with really powerful weapons. In my opinion Breath of the Wild is one of the very few games where weapon durability has any right to exist, since it’s actually there for a reason that isn’t realism. Which is why I like the system in this game and dislike it in almost every other game.

    On a side note:
    towers actually have a purpose in this game, since you have to map the game out yourself, unlike in every Ubisoft game where the towers could have been a terminal on the ground instead, since the height has no added benefit to these games.

  • Jay Ray

    Hmm, a half hour wait at a busy restaurant isn’t that unheard of. Well, if they cook your food fresh and not just pull it from a bain-marie.