Podquisition Episode 130: Two Minutes To Midnight

Gav joins Iron Maiden and a scary ghost haunts the Podquisition.

Elsewhere, we chat about Prey, Bethesda’s putting its trademark foot down again, and something something Vanquish.

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Lloyd Arold
Member

At the start I wondered if I was doing something wrong because I was taking such a beating, but once I started getting some decent weapons and skills I more or less breezed through the rest of the game without even touching the alien powers. It wasn’t until the very end when the game turned into an enemy spamfest that my stockpile of med/armor packs was threatened, and even then I could run past most enemies before they could even react.

phantomrachie
Member
I’m enjoying Prey well enough, it’s full of cool ideas, but the execution is a bit poor a lot of the time. The jumping isn’t great, particularly when you are trying to jump along a Gloo bridge. The weapon design is kinda mediocre, part from the Gloo gun it’s just generic weapons. There have been several points that the game has made me feel like I’ve levelled wrong, which I hate. The stealth can be very annoying, but going in guns blazing is a way to waste your medipacks. I’m only a few hours in so I’m hoping it gets… Read more »
Atkana
Member

Gotta drop the obligatory link ’cause Trademark Bullies came up – https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/11/trademark-law-does-not-require-companies-tirelessly-censor-internet

Dave
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Dave

It is currently 2.5 minutes to midnight.
http://thebulletin.org/timeline

YoDude
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YoDude

m/

Terry-Osaurusus Hex XI
Member

Jim’s not saying *for certain* he’s Jesus, just that if he were to be crucified at any point during the podcast, it wouldn’t be long before a glorious resurrection’s performed. And then everybody celebrates for years after by eating chocolate imposter eggs with a golden ‘J’ boldly embedded in each.

I’m starting to think that when it’s Laura’s turn to do her outro description, she just clicks ‘play’ on a tape recorder with her saved message so she can put her feet up and sample some fresh grapes, because it doesn’t change word for word between each episode.

Remnence
Guest
Remnence

I like: Hiding in the Bushes of Love for the title better.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

I don’t even like flying, so fuck the idea of going to space, that does not sound fun at all.

Michael Prymula
Guest
Michael Prymula

You think Gallaway Girl is bad? “Shape of You” is even worse, I will never get the appeal of Ed Sheeran.

drownedsummer
Guest
drownedsummer

It would be nice if he was restricted to music but he’s also started to appear in various TV shows such as Game of Thrones and Bastard Executioner. Also diamond you were right with the new comment section we do know you, including real name & facebook profile.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

It would help if they hadn’t spent several months posting as “Michael Prymula” while pretending not to be diamond, only to admit they were diamond and it was because they used multiple web browsers.

drownedsummer
Guest
drownedsummer

Did he believe it wasn’t obvious?

When diamond switched to DarkSteel6 it was rather obvious immediately.

1. The avatar was a very obvious indication.
2. The exact same taste in games
3. Posting in exactly the same way complete with references to internet people.
4. Referencing interactions that someone with a fresh account couldn’t have.

Really he may as well have just gone by domnaid and used an avatar with an obvious fake moustache.

InfamousDS
Guest
InfamousDS

Unlike darksteel6, Mike kept the behavior on the stealthy side. They went out of their way to keep up the illusion of 2 people at first, simultaneously posting on both and only referencing things that the alt could have feasibly seen or been part of.

One day they forgot, went on a huge diamond tirade, and then denied the connection for about a week until they casually dropped “I have 2 web browsers” bombshell as though that was a legitimate excuse.

Michael Prymula
Guest
Michael Prymula

Never denied anything, try again.

drownedsummer
Guest
drownedsummer

To some extent you initially suggested that darksteel6 and diamond were actually not the same person.

FireroseNekowolf
Member

Agreed, I seem to remember that was the case, and my memory is fucking shit.

drownedsummer
Guest
drownedsummer

it was and all of the points I made above were about the initial posts with that account.

Chris
Member

Yeah you did. When you first created darksteel06 you spent weeks pretending that you weren’t diamond and couldn’t understand why we kept calling you that and referring to your old comments. Until enough people piled on that it became impossible, at which point you denied the previous several weeks of lying.

If you’re going to be this bad at it you might want to stop sock puppeting.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

They are sock-puppeting again apparently. We caught on too quick.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Apparently the most effective of way of hiding your identity is apparently to use an avatar of a game that person who is definitely not you has stated multiple times is utterly amazing and to start talking about how you really like the new open world Ubisoft game but for some reason your taste in games is somehow different to that person who just very recently stopped posting who also was a big fan of Ubisoft open world games.

About as effective as Mr Burns in that one episode of the Simpsons.

vexer
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vexer

idiot

vexer
Guest
vexer

Wrong dumbfuck, get lost troll.

Michael Prymula
Guest
Michael Prymula

Also lots of people have multiple web browsers, not sure what’s so wrong about that.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

True. I have both Chrome and Firefox open currently as I prefer viewing TVtropes on Chrome and until recently used Chrome for discus on here. At work on one machine I have IE11, Firefox, Chrome & Slepneir installed mostly for testing purposes. There isn’t any issue with using multiple browsers. However one would logically think if you were visiting the same site and frequenting the same comment section on both browsers you would use the same ID. The use of multiple browsers wasn’t the point.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

It’s amazing he either thinks we are too stupid to know this or is themselves so stupid as to believe you can only have 1 account per web browser.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

There is the question of why bother? If your intention is to just post on regular discussions there isn’t any reason to use multiple accounts.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

So people don’t immediately have a negative opinion of you or dismiss you. It’s the only reason to use alts, and its a cheap tactic even done properly.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

I was rather politely skirting round sock puppet.

vexer
Guest
vexer

You’ve proven that you are very stupid indeed.

FireroseNekowolf
Member

Was thinking the same thing. Hell. I have access to multiple COMPUTERS and just log in on the same account. So, yeah, what a weird excuse.

drownedsummer
Guest
drownedsummer

That wasn’t intended as a criticism of you diamond but highlighting an issue with access through social media platforms as it exposes personal data.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

True, I tried to use Twitter for this site but that didn’t seem to work.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

I have a feeling that it was Bethesda who put their foot down over Prey getting a PC demo, i’m sure they are desperate to maximize sales on Steam.

That Damn Rat
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That Damn Rat

Really? because to me that sounded like an excuse pulled from right out of their collective asses.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Wouldn’t that be contradictory? No demo and just encouraging people to buy it then refund it means you will actually be losing potential sales.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

I never play demos anymore, though I played some for the Dreamcast.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

There’s a really easy way to get infinite Neuromods in this game, make use of it quick before it gets patched!

https://www(DOT)youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=vfaZ1jfw9Oc

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

It doesn’t look like you need to modify links currently.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

When I tried making posts with links I got the message “your comment is waiting for moderation”

Michael Prymula
Guest
Michael Prymula

I don’t mind bullet sponges in say games like the Borderlands series, but in Prey it does admittedly get a bit out of hand.

Some Guy In A Waistcoat
Member

I dunno, even in Borderlands the bullet sponge crossed a threshold after the second playthrough. I remember the first time I fired up UVHM, picked up a gun that was ten times the damage of my most powerful weapon from the last playthrough, and then realise it was less effective than harsh words on the first few enemies because of how goddamn spongey they were.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

UVH was a skill check, they were the only scalable damage. If you were solo without damage upgrades to your active skill or %Damage passives you needed to upgrade guns every level-up, sometimes multiple times in the same level range.

It isn’t fun, it’s just annoying.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

I’m guessing the Dark-Souls esque game Laura and Jim are talking about is “The Surge”, which i’m actually looking forward to playing, never been a Souls fan but i’m intrigued at the idea of a Sci-fi version of it.

Michael Prymula
Guest
Michael Prymula

To me Talos I feels even better then Rapture, to me it’s the game that Bioshock Infinite should’ve been.

Never was a big Dishonored fan, I agree with Errant Signal on that game.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Plus there isn’t someone loudly proselytising about Bioshock in Whiterun.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

I’m with TotalBiscuit, this game is a strong Top 10 of the year contender.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

I would highly recommend playing Pray on easy mode, it’s still a good challenge.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

Did you hear about the controversy over IGN’s review of Prey? TotalBiscuit tore Dan Stapleton a new asshole over it, and rightfully so

Helmic
Member
Helmic
Honestly, I don’t think Totalbiscuit has ground to stand on. IGN cannot give a review for anything but what they experienced, and what they experienced was a gamebreaking bug. I highly doubt Jim would be backing TB on this one either, given how often people give Jim shit for basing non-standard scores on his own personal experience of a game rather than trying to fit an average score. Prey deserved that 4/10, and the only reason it didn’t get more was because the bug was rare. Maybe this should convince developers to take catastrophic bugs more seriously even if they’re… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

I think he absolutely does have ground to stand on, IGN are massive hypocrites considering they were more then happy to ignore all the bugs in Fallout 4.

I think Jim would be backing TB on it considering he’s been openly critical of IGN in the past.

Prey absolutely did NOT deserve the 4/10, Dan should never have even called his piece a review, should’ve just called it a first impressions and left it at that. Arkane does not deserve to get screwed because of that asshat.

TB did a really good Twitlonger on it:
http://www(DOT)twitlonger(DOT)com/show/n_1sps46i

Galactix100
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Galactix100

Mate one of the first things he says is that the review is fine. It’s a rant about review scores not the review. In the second paragraph he says he’s defending the review not attacking it. Did you actually read that post?

Galactix100
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Galactix100
Mate, the post says that total biscuit has no problem with the review and that he defended it. Did you actually read it? It’s railing against the score going up on metacritic even though there was a fix being worked on and the issue is a rare one in any case (a shite argument btw no other games don’t get points for fixing an issue post launch so why should Prey?). Anyway there’s nothing wrong with the review, he can only comment on his experience with the game. It’s not his job to worry about how his review will impact… Read more »
Michael Prymula
Guest
Michael Prymula

It’s not a shite argument when you consider that IGN was more then happy to ignore problems in Fallout 4.

Uldihaa
Member

And yet Fallout 4 was still playable all the way to the end, right? Why yes, it was. He didn’t need a save file from the publisher (that also ended up getting corrupted) just to keep playing for a while.

I’ll also note this: “[Note: Please take notice that this review applies exclusively to the PC version of Prey. An opt-in beta patch is now available that appears to address the issue. We’re currently playing the console versions to see if we encounter similar issues, and if not we will score them separately at a later date.]” From the review itself.

Michael Prymula
Guest
Michael Prymula

Not for everyone it wasn’t, the problem with that note on the end is that Metacritic does not take that nuance into account, studies show that people rarely click on websites through MC, they just look at the score and leave.

Uldihaa
Member

And that’s a reviewer’s fault… how? Again, blaming the wrong thing for the problem. If people are so fucking lazy that they don’t read the review, that’s on them. You can’t fix stupid OR lazy.

vexer
Guest
vexer

Quit sucking IGN’s cock, it makes you look fucking pathetic.

Nitrium
Member

Was Prey and Fallout 4 reviewed by the same person? If not, your point is moot, since IGN is NOT Brash Games.

Uldihaa
Member
Sorry, but he doesn’t have a leg to stand on. TB is going off on his personal pet-peeve again (review scores) and trying to pass it off as objective; he practically gushed over Prey on the last Co-Op podcast. His blaming scores for devs not getting bonuses or a game not performing as well as he expects is like someone blaming a brewery or distillery for when a drunk person chooses to drive and then crashes. The problem is the audience not taking the time to understand scores and assuming that it’s all equal across the board, and publishers using… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

He most definitely does have a leg to stand on, your analogy is complete and utter bullshit, fact is IGN is responsible for Metacritic culture getting as bad as it is, so they are not at all blameless.

Scores do much more harm then good in the long run.

Uldihaa
Member
Bullcrap. Publishers using Metacritic for bonuses is to blame. The audience being too damn lazy to read is to blame. And no, my analogy is pretty good, in my opinion. When someone abuses a thing, you blame the abuser not the thing or the maker of the thing abused. Publishers abuse Metacritic, the audience abuses scores. That’s on them, not Metacritic or scores in general. I’ll explain this again. Scores are a fucking numerical summary, nothing more. Doctors use it all the fucking time, “On a scale of 1-10, with one being no pain and 10 being the worst pain… Read more »
Michael Prymula
Guest
Michael Prymula

No you’re analogy is fucking garbage, publishers are to blame yes, but games media is NOT exempt in the least, they’ve perpetuated score culture for so long that’s it’s become absolutely toxic.

Let me explain this to you again-Dan royally fucked up and is too stupid to admit it.

Scores are fucking useless and should go away forever.

Goran
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Goran

To clear one thing up. TB’s point is ONLY that scores are bad.

He doesn’t disagree with the review at all, jsut with giving scores, as distilling the game into 4/10 takes any nuance out of it.

In that regard TB vey much ahs a point. If you have to read the review and read “good game, possible game breaking bugs” you can judge it much better than just “4/10” = bad game.

Uldihaa
Member
No, there is a beta patch that seems to fix the issue. A patch that was not available when the game launched. A reviewer can only review a game as it is, not what it could be after a patch. The game BROKE, and was unplayable. That is, by definition, a bad game. It doesn’t matter is it was a rare bug, it still happened; and if you want to quote odds, consider the likelihood of such a bug happening to reviewer. For all we know, it could be more common, but is masked by how many have simply not… Read more »
Goran
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Goran

You didn’t read my post, did you?

mjc0961
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mjc0961
Nah, TotalBiscuit is completely in the right. A review calling a game unplayable for a rare bug that the author already knew the developer was working on patching (and is now patched and no longer exists) is useless for consumers. He’s scaring people off from buying a game for an issue that no longer exists. Reviews are supposed to be an informative tool for consumers to base purchase decisions on, and Dan’s review utterly fails at that. And if you look at Dan’s Twitter account, he has repeatedly tweeted over and over and over that the game is (truthfully it… Read more »
Uldihaa
Member

Read the damn review instead of repeating what others have said, and you’ll see why he scored it that way. Hint: It took roughly 34 hours until he hit the bug.

Oh, and IGN doesn’t use Jim’s scoring system, they use a school grading system. So a 4 out of 10 for them is well below Failing.

Michael Prymula
Guest
Michael Prymula

I did “read the damn review” and it’s a fucking bullshit review, if he was liking the game until then, the rating makes no fucking sense at all, just confirms to me that IGN is shit(though I knew that already from their awful God Hand review).

Uldihaa
Member

If the game is fucking broken at the time you review it, you review it as a fucking broken game. If Bethesda was so fucking concerned about low scores due to a game breaking bug, they should given out review copy with enough time to fix any rare bugs discovered by the reviewers before launch. They didn’t. Now they can live with the consequences.

vexer
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vexer

It was not “broken” at the time you fucking moron.

drownedsummer
Guest
drownedsummer

Jim either has or has considered giving such scores before. He considered giving Black Ops III two different scores due to the performance of the PC version.

I can see why a review would be scored in such a way but at the same time it would need to also need to advise that said issue may not exist within a day or a week’s time.

Michael Prymula
Guest
Michael Prymula

The pre-order DLC for Prey isn’t that bad actually, because you can actually find a shotgun in the game fairly early on that’s just as powerful as the pre-order one(the Hargrave and regular shotgun the same stats).

Dillonjack
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Dillonjack

In Prey, the pre-order shotgun has the same stats as the normal one, just had to comment on that

Lies That Bind
Guest
Lies That Bind

Isn’t the only difference you get it in the first hour compared to like 15 hours in?

Michael Prymula
Guest
Michael Prymula

You can actually get a normal shotgun not too long after you get the pre-order one, you just have to know where to look.

phantomrachie
Member

I actually got a regular shotgun before the DLC one because of the areas I explored before heading to Morgan’s office.

George
Guest
George

Great intro. 🙂

And thanks again for the all of you guys’ great work!

Mewshuji
Member

Alright I’ll follow the instructions. Won’t listen until it’s exactly two minutes to midnight. 😉

James Haynes
Member

How sad, Jim didn’t even get to die with his boots on.

Chlor
Guest
Chlor

Oh Gav.

Priest or nothing, big man.

Ian Hunt
Guest
Ian Hunt

Something something notification squad

Fred Davis
Guest
Fred Davis

Fun fact: this episode actually went up 45 minutes to midnight in the UK.

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