Podquisition Episode 130: Two Minutes To Midnight

Gav joins Iron Maiden and a scary ghost haunts the Podquisition.

Elsewhere, we chat about Prey, Bethesda’s putting its trademark foot down again, and something something Vanquish.

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Addison
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Addison
Jim, I feel like your argument re:trademarks and ‘Prey to the Gods’ is focusing on the exact wrong angle of potential problems. Further, you chalk up the success of the trademark claim to the lawyers. Let’s be honest. The company has a fuckton of money and thus could force the indie devs to make their title “butts lol” if they wanted, because they have the money to go to court and settle if needed, whereas most people don’t. It’s just another way in which the people with money can bully the people without, and not focusing on that is to… Read more »
MuddyScarecrow
Member

With Prey it’s a bit trickier but the thing I hated about Bethesda going after Mojang over “Scrolls” is that they don’t own the individual word “scrolls.” They own the entire phrase “Elder Scrolls.” Same thing with King when they went after Banner Saga saying it infringed on Candy Crush Saga. You own the phrase. NOT the word.

Phoebe Ross
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Phoebe Ross

Life’s good, when you’re a SKELETON WARRIOR!

Allan Weallans
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I watched Jim’s video for ‘Test’ on Steam Greenlight. Since there was nothing to talk about there, he started playing Temper Tantrum, talking about games that are no longer available on the Steam store. Where that’s relevant is that a game I have on my Steam account that’s no longer available on the store is Prey (2006). I actually bought it at retail, but I put the CD key into Steam and it added it to my account (I think I actually did that after Bethesda acquired it, when it was already no longer available on the store). The question… Read more »
Asuterisuku
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Asuterisuku

The thing about Prey is that Bethesda isn’t going on any kind of brand value at all; they owned the name and thought it sounded cool.

troabarton69
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troabarton69

I’m kind of sad we didn’t get that opening on a Halloween episode.

C00REY
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C00REY

The first game I noticed that had levels that wrap around back to the starting area was Ratchet and Clank.

Concubinary Code
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In regards to Prey I can agree with gav on the TTK for some enemies like the floating techno massive one. Even the glue gun feels pointless to use on it because it breaks out of it so fast. Also the music was set pretty loud as a default and got very distracting especially when it would pick up when exploring for no reason. I’m loving pretty much everything else about it so far though. The typhoon abilities are pretty imaginative nd fun even if the Han abilities feel pretty standard and the level design and story are top notch… Read more »
Michael Prymula
Member

You can upgrade the Gloo Gun so that enemies stay trapped for longer.

Sperium3000
Member

I remember when Iron Maiden came to my dinky city of Belem here in Brazil as part of their Final Frontier tour. I had to splurge half a grand for a spot near the stage, but fuck it, it was *awesome*.

Barloq
Member

Gav and Laura have good taste in Maiden albums. I’d say top 5:
1. Seventh Son
2. Powerslave
3. Self-titled
4. The Number of the Beast
5. Brave New World or Somewhere In Time

Michael Prymula
Member

How about least favorite Maiden album? Mine would be “A Matter of Life and Death”, that album just left me completely cold, very few songs stood out to me.

Barloq
Member

Hmm… well that’s a good question. I’d consider A Matter of Life and Death a middling album personally. The X Factor might be their weakest, it’s just a total slog to get through.

However, I think my least favourite would be either Dance of Death (it’s not really that bad, but doesn’t grab me at all) or Fear of the Dark (by far their most disappointing album, especially considering how much promise the title track shows and how unlike it the rest of the album is).

YoDude
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YoDude

Least favorite fir me would probs be Number of the Beast. Just due to overlistening. No Maiden songs are really bad for me. Some just don’t interest me or I’ve heard them my whole life and they’re just there for me.

Doesn’t help that they’ve inspired that melodic Maiden sound set. They’re hugely impact full.

For example check out a Black’n’Punk band called Kvelertak. Their new album has a song called Beserkr. That song has classic Maiden Melodic Riffage.

Robert
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Robert
Hope you all enjoy Prey more the more you get through it. I haven’t been playing too many games yet this year, but it’s my person favorite of the last six months or so. As a huge Souls fan I do have a high tolerance for the obtuseness, but I also think you guys were a bit facetious with the difficulty. Granted Prey isn’t necessarily easy to just slip into and play it like an FPS or standard action game, but having played the whole game on “hard” without health or combat upgrades (without Typon powers – I mainly did… Read more »
Terry Osaurusies XI
Member

Why do none of my comments pass moderation now? I tried loads of inoffensive versions, why do you hate me?

BAH!
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BAH!

On the lack of a Prey demo for PC:

Let’s also not forget that refunded purchases don’t go back on your debit/credit card, the money goes into your Steam wallet. So even if you want to go through the effort, you’re still out $60 to spend anywhere else in the immediate future.

Goran
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Goran

Not sure about USA, but my EU purchases definitely get refunded to my credit card.

Ringwraith
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Ringwraith

They should do. Might be a region thing, or change if you spent wallet funds for part of the cost.
I’ve always gotten full refunds to my card when I have requested them, it even asks if I do want it in my Steam wallet.

BAH!
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BAH!

That’s certainly news to me.

Fred Davis
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Fred Davis

EU laws provide almost infinitely better consumer protection for shit like this than the US – we get automatic free warranties on goods purchased and the right to refunds guaranteed under law (part of the reason why Steam even added refunds iirc), rather than it being some special thing a shop has to explicitly provide extra or can charge for.

Some Guy In A Waistcoat
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It’s been that way for a long time. Though, I’ve never had the money show back up in my account in anything less than a week after the refund was approved.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS
About Prey and power: You can get a LOT of items in the first 2 hours that make the whole game easy-ish. Neuromod Division has the Neuromod recipe, a lot of scrap and raw materials, the Anti-Rad recipe, the Stun Gun, the GLOO Gun, and several copies of the Wrench as well as the recipe. All available with a minimum of Hacking 2 and a password acquired in the Lobby. The Lobby has the Medkit recipe, a Shotgun, even more materials, a lot of food items, the Silenced Pistol, the GLOO Canister recipe, several pre-crafted Neuromods, and more I can’t… Read more »
Michael Prymula
Member

Not to mention there’s a really easy way to get infinite neuromods(basically you put a resource into the recycler, split it up nine times, then activate the machine, which will double the resources you put into it) which i’ve taken advantage of to max out my skills in Hacking, Leverage and Repairs.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Using glitches hardly counts as playing the game at all.

Michael Prymula
Member

That’s some bizarre logic if i’ve ever heard it. I didn’t use it to fully max out all my skills, just a few so I could explore more efficiently.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

True or false: You have done things that wouldn’t otherwise have been possible without using the glitch.

You aren’t playing the game how it was intended to be played. You aren’t a cheater, I would never go that far for a linear single-player experience, but you can’t claim to be anything approaching informed when you have made it where you can ignore exploration obstacles while still boosting primary skills. You have handicapped your own experience.

locuas “Locuas”
Member

This is me giving a crap.

Michael Prymula
Member

No I have no “handicapped” anything, that’s absolute fucking nonsense. With the way the game is designed, i’m not sequence-breaking or anything like them, just getting access to some side-rooms earlier then I otherwise would’ve, which is not a big deal. Frankly I think i’m getting more enjoyment this way.

Why are you so offended by how i’m playing the game?

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I’m not offended, I just hate that you felt the need to spam the comments section (yet again) about all your Prey knowledge when in fact you have circumvented the rules.

This is the equivalent of playing Solitaire and keeping 2 extra decks of cards you sue explicitly for the purpose of getting around the shuffle. It isn’t explicitly against them so you aren’t cheating, but it kinda defeats the point.

Michael Prymula
Member

“circumventing the rules” LOL, you’re acting like i’m breaking the law by taking advantage of an exploit in a video game, dude take a fucking chill pill.

Your analogy makes no sense.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS
I’d like to point out that Jim having problems with “bad glitches” was enough for you to constantly remind us that Homefront and other games were great experiences in other comment threads barely or not at all related to them. Lest we forget, you trotted out TB like a show pony because some reviewer gave the game a 4 for, and this will blow my mind as you clearly have none, a series of glitches. The game couldn’t possibly deserve a 4 or lower for being unfun and unplayable for the reviewer and therefore TB, in his infinite wisdom, is… Read more »
FireroseNekowolf
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Alright you two, kiss and make up, or I will turn this comment section around.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Please do. I’m not interested in SeaWorld and he keeps poking me in the side while you look at the road.

Michael Prymula
Member

Sounds like you’re the one who has “no mind”.

YoDude
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YoDude

Wow. A down vote? But only on this comment? Tsh.

You all need to relax. All of you. It’s a fucking vidyagame

Michael Prymula
Member
Never said it was an “attack on my ability” at all, I mainly did it because I wanted to take Jim’s advice on going heavy on Repairs and that was the fastest way for me to do it. Are you really a Harvard Scholar? Just curious because nowadays I have a hard time telling when a comment is sarcasm or when it’s not. If you really are a scholar then you have my commendation. I generally don’t condemn games for bugs if they are actually beneficial to you(TvTropes calls them “Good Bad Bugs”, I remember being very greatful in Dead… Read more »
InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Because editing doesn’t exist, I’m not a Harvard Scholar. I made it up because it sounded legitimate, even though I’m mostly certain the term is “Rhodes Scholar”.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS
If you wanted to follow advice, you should have done what Jim did OR just make the mods naturally like you’re supposed to. Carefully balancing resource management isn’t possible if you have infinite resources. As to the IGN rant, I don’t care about how you managed to see certain words or tweets to create a confirmation bias. Unless otherwise revealed by a whistleblower or confession, all reviews are an honest opinion. Yes, even on IGN. This is one you had a problem with enough to accuse a reviewer of making up a bad score and then using TB as a… Read more »
vexer
Member

Since Dan changed his score to an 8, it’s clear he pulled the low score out of his ass, though i’m sure you’re far too stupid to realize that.

Not making the same arguments as Zelda fans at all(especially not since TB is on my side dumbass).

Bob
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Bob

Not exactly related to something in the podcast, but more something I think Jim needs to see if he hasn’t already, an Alien egg cookie jar http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/jpqs/?cpg=fb

Anton
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Anton

I would argue that Dark Souls is pretty obtuse in how it presents its mechanics. Yeah, it literally tells you which buttons to press to swing and block, but that’s about it. When it comes to things like magic, explaining exactly how stats work, explaining weapon upgrades/conversions. Sure, you’ll figure it out eventually if you experiment for hours and hours, but that’s not good game design. And I say that as a huge fan of the series.

Then there are the NPC questlines. Tell me how you’re supposed to do those to completion without a guide.

MechaSlinky
Member

I don’t know, there are a lot of games out there that don’t really explain how things work and sometimes that’s perfectly fine. I can’t speak for anything other than Dark Souls 1 since I haven’t played anything past that yet, but it at least has a way to pull up a quick explanation of what all of your stats are for, so while I may not know exactly how poise affects things, I at least have an idea of what poise is for.

YoDude
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YoDude

Demons Souls was even worse. Everything had a symbol instead of a text name in the stats section . I remember guessing which each symbol meant based on the shape of the weapons I seen the specialized in. Like strength for big ugly weeabo shit and dex for the small ugly weeabo shit.

Settled on the long sword which will forever be the best Souls Weapon ever.

RipTide
Member

Yea Souls games are defiantly not the poster child of good tutorial design. The only reason i understand how weapon scaling works is because I looked up a guide, and even though I’ve been playing since demons souls I rarely if ever bother with NPC quests because there is no way aside form pure luck you are going to figure them out without a guide.

Wolf
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Wolf

Comment test

Lloyd Arold
Member

At the start I wondered if I was doing something wrong because I was taking such a beating, but once I started getting some decent weapons and skills I more or less breezed through the rest of the game without even touching the alien powers. It wasn’t until the very end when the game turned into an enemy spamfest that my stockpile of med/armor packs was threatened, and even then I could run past most enemies before they could even react.

phantomrachie
Member
I’m enjoying Prey well enough, it’s full of cool ideas, but the execution is a bit poor a lot of the time. The jumping isn’t great, particularly when you are trying to jump along a Gloo bridge. The weapon design is kinda mediocre, part from the Gloo gun it’s just generic weapons. There have been several points that the game has made me feel like I’ve levelled wrong, which I hate. The stealth can be very annoying, but going in guns blazing is a way to waste your medipacks. I’m only a few hours in so I’m hoping it gets… Read more »
Atkana
Member

Gotta drop the obligatory link ’cause Trademark Bullies came up – https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/11/trademark-law-does-not-require-companies-tirelessly-censor-internet

Dave
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Dave

It is currently 2.5 minutes to midnight.
http://thebulletin.org/timeline

YoDude
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YoDude

m/

Terry Osaurusies XI
Member

Jim’s not saying *for certain* he’s Jesus, just that if he were to be crucified at any point during the podcast, it wouldn’t be long before a glorious resurrection’s performed. And then everybody celebrates for years after by eating chocolate imposter eggs with a golden ‘J’ boldly embedded in each.

I’m starting to think that when it’s Laura’s turn to do her outro description, she just clicks ‘play’ on a tape recorder with her saved message so she can put her feet up and sample some fresh grapes, because it doesn’t change word for word between each episode.

Remnence
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Remnence

I like: Hiding in the Bushes of Love for the title better.

Michael Prymula
Member

I don’t even like flying, so fuck the idea of going to space, that does not sound fun at all.

Michael Prymula
Member

You think Gallaway Girl is bad? “Shape of You” is even worse, I will never get the appeal of Ed Sheeran.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

It would be nice if he was restricted to music but he’s also started to appear in various TV shows such as Game of Thrones and Bastard Executioner. Also diamond you were right with the new comment section we do know you, including real name & facebook profile.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

That wasn’t intended as a criticism of you diamond but highlighting an issue with access through social media platforms as it exposes personal data.

Michael Prymula
Member

True, I tried to use Twitter for this site but that didn’t seem to work.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

It would help if they hadn’t spent several months posting as “Michael Prymula” while pretending not to be diamond, only to admit they were diamond and it was because they used multiple web browsers.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Did he believe it wasn’t obvious?

When diamond switched to DarkSteel6 it was rather obvious immediately.

1. The avatar was a very obvious indication.
2. The exact same taste in games
3. Posting in exactly the same way complete with references to internet people.
4. Referencing interactions that someone with a fresh account couldn’t have.

Really he may as well have just gone by domnaid and used an avatar with an obvious fake moustache.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Unlike darksteel6, Mike kept the behavior on the stealthy side. They went out of their way to keep up the illusion of 2 people at first, simultaneously posting on both and only referencing things that the alt could have feasibly seen or been part of.

One day they forgot, went on a huge diamond tirade, and then denied the connection for about a week until they casually dropped “I have 2 web browsers” bombshell as though that was a legitimate excuse.

Michael Prymula
Member

Also lots of people have multiple web browsers, not sure what’s so wrong about that.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

True. I have both Chrome and Firefox open currently as I prefer viewing TVtropes on Chrome and until recently used Chrome for discus on here. At work on one machine I have IE11, Firefox, Chrome & Slepneir installed mostly for testing purposes. There isn’t any issue with using multiple browsers. However one would logically think if you were visiting the same site and frequenting the same comment section on both browsers you would use the same ID. The use of multiple browsers wasn’t the point.

FireroseNekowolf
Member

Was thinking the same thing. Hell. I have access to multiple COMPUTERS and just log in on the same account. So, yeah, what a weird excuse.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

It’s amazing he either thinks we are too stupid to know this or is themselves so stupid as to believe you can only have 1 account per web browser.

vexer
Member

You’ve proven that you are very stupid indeed.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

There is the question of why bother? If your intention is to just post on regular discussions there isn’t any reason to use multiple accounts.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

So people don’t immediately have a negative opinion of you or dismiss you. It’s the only reason to use alts, and its a cheap tactic even done properly.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

I was rather politely skirting round sock puppet.

Michael Prymula
Member

Never denied anything, try again.

Chris Schwartz-Brown
Member

Yeah you did. When you first created darksteel06 you spent weeks pretending that you weren’t diamond and couldn’t understand why we kept calling you that and referring to your old comments. Until enough people piled on that it became impossible, at which point you denied the previous several weeks of lying.

If you’re going to be this bad at it you might want to stop sock puppeting.

vexer
Member

Wrong dumbfuck, get lost troll.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Apparently the most effective of way of hiding your identity is apparently to use an avatar of a game that person who is definitely not you has stated multiple times is utterly amazing and to start talking about how you really like the new open world Ubisoft game but for some reason your taste in games is somehow different to that person who just very recently stopped posting who also was a big fan of Ubisoft open world games.

About as effective as Mr Burns in that one episode of the Simpsons.

vexer
Member

idiot

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

They are sock-puppeting again apparently. We caught on too quick.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

To some extent you initially suggested that darksteel6 and diamond were actually not the same person.

FireroseNekowolf
Member

Agreed, I seem to remember that was the case, and my memory is fucking shit.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

it was and all of the points I made above were about the initial posts with that account.

Michael Prymula
Member

I have a feeling that it was Bethesda who put their foot down over Prey getting a PC demo, i’m sure they are desperate to maximize sales on Steam.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Wouldn’t that be contradictory? No demo and just encouraging people to buy it then refund it means you will actually be losing potential sales.

That Damn Rat
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That Damn Rat

Really? because to me that sounded like an excuse pulled from right out of their collective asses.

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