Podquisition Episode 152: That Would Be An Ecunemical Matter

We went far too long without a Father Ted reference.

Anyway, we chat more Shadow of War, discuss The Evil Within 2, and dump on WWE 2K18 a little.

Also, you damn right we chatted about Activision and Visceral.

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Grantaire
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Grantaire

I’m in Denmark and we haven’t had any of the storm really, but did have a moment of “Ooooh so *that’s* why the sun was red the other day :O !” while listening to this

TGSP
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TGSP

Well, it appears the UK Government has said that loot boxes aren’t gambling until such a time that the items gained from the loot boxes can be sold to another person.

OK, I can see the logic in that, it’s not gambling if you can’t transfer / exchange the “winnings” for something else. So what happens when someone sells their Overwatch account?

Chris
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The “AAA” industry deserves the crash that’s coming at this point. The fact that they are bringing in the kind of manipulation that the gambling industry has done for years but thanks to the law being slow to catch up they can do it to children? All of the big “AAA” publishers are guilty of this to some degree, and it’s to support the massive bloated marketing budgets that no one needs or wants. It’ll be painful, and it will suck for the people trapped working for companies who depend on publishers like that, but when someone steps in finally… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

It’s highly unlikely there will be another video game crash as things are now much different then they were in 1982.

Chris
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How does that, in any way, counter what I said? I didn’t say they were the same, I said the current business model of exorbitant marketing budgets, impossible sales goals and milking gambling addicts and children for loot box money isn’t sustainable and will collapse if any regulators step in.

Hugrid
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Hugrid
What’s actually funny is that while the “publishers don’t have to worry about overproducing physical copies of their game and then burying them in a landfill” element of the 83 crash can’t as easily happen, you have everything else – from the price war (why the $60 price point matters), to the sad over-milking of any game that is even slightly popular (why chunky soup matters), to the shovelware flood (why steam/PSN matters) to the creation of lots of little game consoles (why the Nintendo classics matter) to the mistreatment of developers (why fuckonami matters) even to the glut of… Read more »
Kirk Hammer
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Kirk Hammer

So can we finally add Monolith to the list of Liar Developers now as per the latest Jimquisition? Because that Eurogamer interview is proving to be flat-out untrue RE: not making the game a long slog where your orcs are super easy to lose so as to incentivise buying loot boxes. While companies getting shut down is of course sad, developers do ultimately have to be held accountable for the deals they sign with publishers and the things they agree to do, and do on their own, to further stuff like this.

Terry-Osaurusus Hex XI
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I would dearly love to see a Pennywise cover of 99 Red Balloons.

George
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Sad….it appears that video game publishers and devs are going the rout of the tobacco companies in the 70’s and 80’s selling products that are marketed to adults but can appeal to children and are potentially addictive.

And like was the case with Tobacco the only way to address it will probably be through legislation. Some areas this may be easier as not all countries define gambling and or games of chance strictly in terms of a cash rewards.

Dj_Ziio
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Dj_Ziio
I’m playing Shadow of War in offline mode, its definitely super grindy. I think the only bonus of doing online mode would be Gav’s technique of filling gaps of killed orcs with loot box ones after losing an orc in the fighting pits. I hadn’t realized that there were 5 fortresses to conquer, as I’m on the second and almost burnt out on the game as it is. Since many of the skills don’t fit my playstyle I feel my character is mostly upgraded and there is little more that the game can offer. The shadow wars seem like boredom… Read more »
Bowling Green
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Bowling Green

Overwatch’s events aren’t ONE-TIME events with items you will NEVER get if you miss out on them. They come around every year, and the initial items from the event of the previous year(s) get discounted to normal currency since there are newer items each time.

I’m not a big fan of the loot box system, but making the event items out to seem like LITERAL one-time only items that will forever disappear after the event is just unfairly misleading.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

Not entirely true, those Summer Olympic skins are never coming back, so not it’s actually not misleading at all. Even if some stuff technically is not one time, most people won’t want to wait for another year for a another chance at those items so it’s still psychologically manipulative.

Bowling Green
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Bowling Green

Have you even played the game? The Summer Games skins literally came back this summer, and they’ll be back next summer too. The Halloween items from last year are back this year, and they’ll be there next year too. Yes, it IS misleading to say you’ll never get these items again, because, guess what? You CAN get these items again. They’re seasonal items that come around when they’re relevant. So yes, it’s entirely true that it’s misleading.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

You really need to stop defending this garbage.

Bowling Green
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Bowling Green

I defend reality. You clearly had no idea about the circumstances of the event items, so I corrected you. Please be informed about a topic before you comment on it.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

Please stop being a shill for Blizzard, people like you are not hepling.

Bowling Green
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Bowling Green

It’s not being a shill for blizzard, it’s called being right. A lie was muttered, so I corrected it. People like you, who don’t even know what they’re talking about on a given topic, only hurt people who want to legitimately change the loot box system. Again, please be informed about a topic before you comment on it, because you clearly have no clue.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

No people like you who blindly defend this crap hurt people.

Bowling Green
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Bowling Green

Blindly? I’m the only reasonable one here. You’re the one blindly hating on Blizzard so much that you didn’t even take the smallest amount of time to research the fact that you can in fact get the event items again. You have yet to prove otherwise because you were dead wrong, and now all you have is: “Y-You’re a shill!” You’re embarrassing yourself.

Chris
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You might as well give it up. Being ‘wrong’ isn’t going to stop the replies and insults.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

You’re blindly defending them and you are the one embarrassing yourself by bending over backwards to support bad business practices. People like you are the reason why this crap keeps happening.

Bowling Green
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Bowling Green

I’m not blindly defending them, I’m defending them from blatant lies. Lies that get spewed by uninformed children like yourself. People like you are the reason why companies can just brush off criticism because they can point out comments like your own to make the opposition seem like fanatics that aren’t in tune with reality. I’m still waiting for that proof that the event items don’t return, by the way. You don’t have it? That’s because you’re wrong, kiddo.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

You are the only “uninformed child” here, i’m still waiting for proof that this business is a good thing, is that crickets I here.

No YOU are wrong “kiddo”

You are a fanatic that is not in tune with reality.

Bowling Green
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Bowling Green

Yet another useless response from the child.

Post the evidence that proves me wrong. Oh, that’s right, you can’t. Because I’m right, and you’re wrong. You are either too blind with your hatred of Blizzard that you can’t even think logically, or you are genuinely mentally stunted. Either way, I’d advise you to do research before you embarrass yourself again, kiddo.

Anton
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Anton

yeah, just like the Olympics skins will be back for next’s years…. oh shit, never mind

Bowling Green
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Bowling Green

They came back this year. Please do even the smallest amount of research before you make a comment.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula
I thought the first Evil Within was quite underrated and I think the sequel is also quite good, it’s open-world reminds me somewhat of Murdered-Soul Suspect. I hope it does well as I want to get more of these types of single-player focused games. Speaking of RE7, real excited for the two single-player DLCs coming next month. I can see how taking breaks from a game would be a good thing, maybe if you had been able to do that with games like Dying Light, Mad Max, Prey and Andromeda you would’ve been able to enjoy them more then you… Read more »
Anton
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Anton

Do we really care about the integrity of IGN’s reviews? That site is the posterboy for the “paid reviews” tinfoil theory as it is. They give games a 7.0 just for showing up. The written content produced there is some of the blandest and least interesting out there, even by big-site standards. The “discussions” in the review comments section there are already a cesspool of idiocy and toxicity. There’s really no way it’ll get worse just because IGN bought an indie outfit.

Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

Don’t forget their godawful reviews like their 3.0 rating of God Hand.

I still don’t think IGN should cover Humble published games at all regardless of what people think of them.

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