Podquisition Episode 157: Fuck The FCC

It’s Thanksgiving, which means very little is happening. However, since EA messed up loot boxes so royally, we have much to discuss there.

Also, the FCC is rubbish, Skyrim’s alright on Switch, and Gav likes the new Thor film.

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29 Comments on "Podquisition Episode 157: Fuck The FCC"

Pilkington
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Pilkington

0:17 – No one calls you that, Jim.

Kirk Hammer
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Kirk Hammer

Unfortunately, given how a lot of gamers love defending the companies that screw them over and shouting at the people trying to warn them, I think if a state like Hawaii did ban lootboxes then we’d see that crowd whinging that they’re “having their rights violated” or some shit because it means they’re “at a disadvantage in game compared to players in states that still allow them”.

Chris
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You’re already seeing it. People are comparing this to attempts to legislate game violence in the 90s and calling it a ‘moral panic’ in order to take the industry’s side against the big, bad government who just doesn’t understand their hobby again. Because that’s easier than dealing with the fact that the companies who make toys you like don’t care about you and aren’t the good guys.

Kirk Hammer
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Kirk Hammer

So I wracked my brain to come up with the dumbest argument I could think of that they’d use, and the real one’s even dumber? I guess if there’s one thing they love more than shilling, it’s hyperbole.

Chris
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There’s already YouTubers and…. ugh, “influencers” who have always been anti consumer and pro industry coming out to make this comparison. The “don’t talk about industry problems it’s boring and never accomplishes anything” contingent will fall all over themselves to pretend they weren’t wrong and that consumer backlash actually did something this time.

That ‘moral panic’ line was from TotalBiscuit btw, already out there equating consumer protection with censorship.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

We can openly criticise TotalBiscuit without fear of reprisal?

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Yeah, he made a SoundCloud account.

Edit: Do you see all the icons with light grey backgrounds under the audio timer? Those are him.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Does anyone actually read SoundCloud comments? As far as I’m aware they are just posts in a vacuum, entirely isolated without any actual community.

To answer your question. No, as who looks at SoundCloud comments.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I have a really boring job.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

I see the restraint was dropped the moment he was no longer under any scrutiny.

Allan Weallans
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One of my favourite things I noticed, that I think is really illustrative of how gaming has changed in the political landscape, is that in 2007 right-wingers were complaining that Mass Effect 1 had naughty sex content in it, and in 2017 right-wingers were complaining that Mass Effect Andromeda didn’t give them a hard enough boner (because feminism, apparently).

Yeah, in the 90s (and beyond!) the industry to some extent did need to be protected from the wild flailings of clueless legislators and commentators, but it’s really hard to imagine anyone not noticing that things have changed since then.

Galactix100
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Galactix100

The discussion about how loot boxes reminds me of EA’s E3 conference from a couple of years ago where they had Jose Mourinho on to promote FIFA and Peter Moore jokingly asked if Mourinho’s kid had gotten a hold of his credit card to buy whatever the microtransactions in ultimate team are called.

Kind of insidious when you think about it. Turn a serious issue into a joke in an attempt to obfuscate the fact that this colossal international corporation is preying on children.

Aotrs Commander
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Aotrs Commander
Looking into the whole Net Neutrality mess from the outside (of the US), I can only hope you guys can manage to get through it; being in the UK means there’s not much I can do to help. Well, short of attaining omnipotance and taking over the world or something. (I mean, I’m working on that, but even if I succeed, I don’t think it would make many people *happy*. Though the games industry would be a lot cleaner, I’ll grant you…) We might yet have the issues over here – currently the UK subscribes to the EU law on… Read more »
Asuterisuku
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Asuterisuku

Gavin, it’s funny that you mention Dave Grohl and Trent Reznor in particular; back in 2010, Grohl did have a supergroup named “Them Crooked Vultures” with himself, Josh Homme, and John Paul Jones. There was only one album from them, but Grohl and Homme are fast friencs and still work together often.
In 2015, Grohl opened Studio 606 and filmed a documentary about its creation, and the recording of the first album there. One of the tracks on that album, called Mantra, was done by Grohl, Homme, and Reznor.

Asuterisuku
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Asuterisuku

I must make a quick correction; it was in 2013, not 2015.

dylanthelion
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dylanthelion

Also, The New Pornographers, Monsters of Folk, just off the top of my head. Supergroups are still a thing. What have changed are the genre and label landscapes.. I wonder whether Gavin Isn’t just getting old, if I can say so respectfully. I know I am. I’m pretty sure none of these bands are less than 5 years old. 🙂

rikeus
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rikeus

A Perfect Circle is prog rock supergroup formed by the Tool vocalist and Billy Howerdel. Soen is a prog metal supergroup formed by the drummer from Opeth, some swedish pop singer (who has an amazing voice) and Steve Di Giorgio from the bands Testament, Death and Sadus. They don’t really have the name power of the bands gavin was talking about but supergroups are still certainly a thing.

Octopus Grift
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I have this vision of the future where Jim’s game journalism career is just a footnote in his life as a professional wrestler.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

I’m curious to see this happen and also concerned for Jim’s health considering his back issues.

GloatingSwine
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GloatingSwine

Any time you meet one of those locked doors in Odyssey they want you to be wearing the costume from the world you’re in. For the ones I’ve found (up to Bowser’s Kingdom) it’s always the cheaper one.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Every time I had to warp back to the Odyssey change out of the wedding dress put on the required outfit get the moon and then go back to the Odyssey to put the dress back on.

GloatingSwine
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GloatingSwine

Though you can usually change at the costume shops in each level which is often closer to the locked door than the Odyssey.

Natalie
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Natalie
So what with all the confusion about what’s actually going on withe Belgium I’ve been doing some research into the situation, being a native dutch speaker. Here’s what I’ve found: The information that the Belgian Gaming Commission is investigating the loot boxes primarily stems from the Belgian news channel VTM. According to their article, the secretary of the Gaming Commission talked directly to them, saying that they are running an investigation into Battlefront 2 and Overwatch, and whether or not it falls under their current jurisdiction to enforce Belgian gambling laws. Nearly all other news sources seem to point back… Read more »
Hugrid
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Hugrid

“Such a license would also include new stipulations for what games qualify as harmless and are exempt.”

This is the interesting bit, because depending on exactly how pointlessly greedy and blinded by their own success the AAA industry has been it’ll decide whether A) the ESRB implements their own gambling mechanics rating system fast enough to preempt EU regulation and B) whether the loopholes in the rating system are so egregious that it only delays the inevitable second round of all this shit when EA or Warner bros take the piss with it.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Unless I’ve got things wrong it has now been 50 episodes since they had a guest on.

Hugrid
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Hugrid
I second Jim’s glorious “HAH!” at battlefield’s poor sales news. A thing in the literature/genre publishing industry, the genuine loss of “mid list” authors, those writers who produce good books and stories but don’t sell bad or tremendously, was a major symptom of the publishing industries’ weird contraction in the 90s and 00s – it was literally a disease symptom and the disease was a contraction in sales across the board outside of a few JK Rowlings who sell ridiculously. In healthy industries there should be big name things that sell tremendously and tower above everything else through luck and… Read more »
Chris
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Battlefront not selling well it’s the best news about it this whole week. That’s going to do more than even the threat of regulation in the short term to put publishers on edge about trying this again.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

I do wonder if in Odyssey that comment from one of the traders ‘Spend Money’ is Nintendo satirising things.

GloatingSwine
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GloatingSwine

I dunno. Odyssey’s main vibe despite the whole name thing is, well, tourism. You go collecting luggage stickers and filling your ship with tat from places around the world. So I don’t think they’re really satirising anything other than the general tourist’s love of souvenir tat.

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