Single-Player Healthcare (The Jimquisition)

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After EA murdered Visceral and “pivoted” its Star Wars game, there has been much talk of the death of single-player games.

The Jimquisition explains just how long this debate has lasted, and why single-player is doing okay.

Bonus Content: Oh, Ubisoft!

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Natalie
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Natalie
You know, it just occurred to me yesterday… The whole “games as service” thing? It isn’t just decimating single player. It’s actually also poisoning multiplayer in the AAA space. It used to be when triple A brought out multiplayer games, they were made to be fun, simple experiences you could jump into and have some goofs. Now, it’s all about leveling up your profile, leveling up your loot, looting up your profile, leveling up your icon, looting loot, loot, loot, levels loots loot levels achievements icons loot loot It doesn’t really seem like they’re bothering to make games that are… Read more »
Mrmcdoll
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Mrmcdoll
Funny. Two gaming experiences that I “come back to and enjoy” for a long time, are mass effect 1 and dragon age 1. Both are EA games… I’d say you need look no further than cdprojekt to find a developer that is committed to providing great single player experiences and who have given away expansive content, and provided stuff that’s worth the extra price, with their phenomenal expansions. You’ve hit the nail on the head by identifying that the issue isn’t some crap about games costing more, but rather publishers considering a lack of additional revenue as actual revenue lost.… Read more »
Xion Eternum
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Xion Eternum
You would think that with all the “success” garnered trying to copycat CoD, WoW, and every other major market trend that someone somewhere would realize; this doesn’t work. Nope. These millionaires with their multi-billion dollar publishing companies are too stupid to realize that doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome is in fact; stupid. Nearly every game or franchise that has tried to copy CoD hasn’t had a collective success touching the highest selling single game in the CoD franchise. Why? Because why would someone buy a CoD-clone if they already have CoD? All but a… Read more »
streetkiller
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Chris
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Michael, you are not welcome here. Justin has told you repeatedly to stop.

Chris
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The key is that the heads of most of these companies don’t come from the game industry or from any kind of entertainment industry where this absolutely is true. They come from the toy industry or the packaged goods industry where following the leader and releasing a knock off that is virtually the same and has the same features absolutely can and does work. Even among electronics companies it works like that. None of them want to admit or are able to admit they’re in a creative industry, not just an industry about pumping out focus tested products to fill… Read more »
Greene Scott
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Greene Scott

If I recall right, Jim did an entire episode about this.

Chris
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Yeah, I can’t remember the name of it, or if it was multiple episodes I’m thinking of. I know it comes up in the episode about focus testing quite a bit, and in the only three games marketing executives ever talk about one.

Xion Eternum
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Xion Eternum
Aye, I’ve briefly interned with a development studio under a publisher during the early days of the XB360/PS3 generation. Won’t say who in either respect, but I caught enough of a glimpse of things to come to know I did not want to take that career path for these and many, many more reasons; some of which even Jim is unaware of, but I’m certain have been happening for a decade. Hell, some of his more recent discoveries have been happening for a decade now. The Co-Optional Podcast is also blissfully unaware of some of the absolute worst within the… Read more »
Ford.Fairlane
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Ford.Fairlane
It feels like “Customers want more graphical fidelity” is the publisher misreading the audience. I thought during last gen there was a pivot from Graphics to Art Design as a real selling point for a game. Bioshock, Borderlands, Bastion/Transistor, plenty of others… The quest for hyper-realism just ended up with everyone’s shooter looking like everyone else’s shooter. Then some people decided to stop making their games look real and just make them look cool. I know the CoDs of the world are still pushing pixels, but having a killer aesthetic can really sell your game while knocking a ton of… Read more »
Anton
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Anton

I’m not going to lie – as a “PCMR” graphics whore, I would buy one game a year that pushes the envelopes of graphical fidelity,

“One” being the most important word in that sentence. As much as I like the shiniest shinies, my favorite games tend to be ones that prioritize a distinct visual style or beautiful art, and you don’t need the latest version of CryEngine for that.

Ford.Fairlane
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Ford.Fairlane

Yes, there’s always going to be a place for the next “Graphical tour-de-force” game, just as there’s always an audience for the Spielberg or Cameron’s next CGI extravaganza. I think their belief that the only games that will sell require enormous budgets is limited thinking. Hopefully indies will continue to show there is another way,

AntarcticOasis
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AntarcticOasis

I’m really glad single player games aren’t going away any time soon. I think there’s something to be said for a focused gaming experience that a person can enjoy by themselves from time to time.

As a side note, I look forward to the forthcoming Jimquisition on Sonic Team and SEGA’s inability to get modern Sonic right, despite Generstions and Lost World being two solid directions to go in.

Coughee
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Coughee
Yeah, I actually really liked Lost World. Honestly, I found it the best entry in the Sonic series since Sonic 3 (and Knuckles) (haven’t played Mania). I mean, yeah, it certainly wasn’t perfect, as they could have improved on some dumb stuff like an absolute overuse of wisps (which while cool have still been way overused in Colours and even Lost World) but they nailed somehow almost 1:1 bringing a 2D game into 3D gameplay, which is kind of super impressive on its own. Also it had the best line of dialogue from a villain I’ve ever heard of in… Read more »
AntarcticOasis
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AntarcticOasis
I agree with you 100%, it’s how Sonic can work in a 3D space. The Wisps should’ve been removed completely IMO. I loved Colours but they didn’t need to bring them back, they don’t fit in Lost World and there’s already too much going on in the level design. The other thing they should’ve changed was the run button. Forget that, make Sonic accelerate to a run after a period of moving in a single direction, that’s it: the control problems of every Sonic game in the modern era more or less solved with some tweaking perhaps. They also needed… Read more »
Coughee
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Coughee
Actually the run button I feel is one of the things that gave the platforming a better level of control. But maybe instead of flat out increasing your speed on the dot (even though it is sorta his character) it raises the speedcap and allows you to get there through actual momentum. I still think the Wisps are the best idea Sonic has ever had, and I want to see more of them, but they would do better if used sparingly. The first level of Colours used them perfectly. The rest of the game should have followed suit, as well… Read more »
HelixShade
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HelixShade

That Jimquisition already exists – “Sonic Gloom”. It was the second Episode Jim made after leaving The Escapist and going independent.

AntarcticOasis
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AntarcticOasis

That’s true, actually it’s the first Jimquisition I ever saw and what made me a fan of Jim’s work. I’m looking forward to a follow-up given Sonic Forces releasing this week and the ways it interacts with Jim’s original thesis.

Konrad Victor
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Konrad Victor

Questions:
How many copies has Skyrim sold?
That thing is an ancient Single Player experience and it is still selling. Additionally it will probably get a VR Version at some point.

Oh and where is the Weird Yellow Hat Dude that wants to die from?

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin

Skyrim had sold nearly 23 million by 2015. That does not include the Sprcial Edition, where they sold untold millions more, mostly to the same customers. They also have the Switch Edition coming up soon, and yes, there is a horrible VR version in the works.

The yellow guy is from Mario Odyssey. The npcs are supposed to speak gibberish, but for some reason, it sounds like he wants to die.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

It fits in with the theme of the game as Odyssey is actually a crossover with the Cthulu Mythos as Cappy is really Nyarlathotep.

Dj_Ziio
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Dj_Ziio

I think the Switch is a perfect example of why single player games will never die. Nintendo’s best first party games are both single player. Its what they have always done best. The fact that you have to use your mobile device to chat with others when playing a multiplayer game on the device leads me to believe that multiplayer was never seen as integral to its success.

Iskander
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Iskander

Online multiplayer anyhow. The Switch is fantastic for couch multiplayer.

mth
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mth

While I agree that “linear” doesn’t have to be a bad thing, there are cases where it can be justified to use it as a criticism: when a game or its marketing suggests that player choices make a big difference when in fact they have very little impact on how the story unfolds.

Alex Brown
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I know that Kotaku is a dirty word around these parts, but Jim, you really should read Jason Schreier’s article on the closure of Visceral .The jist of it is that the reasons given for it’s closure (that they wanted to pivot the direction into a loot based multiplayer game) were to placate investors, but the reality of it was that the development was floundering. On top of that the studio was around 60% more expensive to run than the average studio of it’s size, simply for where it was located, and that the ambition of the game was too… Read more »
diehardfast
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Chris
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Micheal, you’ve been asked repeatedly to stop. You literally just got banned for doing this, then claimed you didn’t know it was against the rules. Just stop, there is no way you don’t realize it at this point.

Nitrium
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Nitrium

It’s just Whac-a-Mole (or more precisely, Whac-a-Sock Puppet) at this stage. He can’t stop, won’t stop (already 12 posts in today’s topic). Justin will need to nuke it from orbit (completely block his IP) – it’s the only way to be sure.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Problem with that, he can spoof, mimic, and fake other IPs or just use a VOIP.
Hell, unless he has a dedicated IP, all he has to do is let his routed reset and might get a no one that way.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

You barely even need to restart the router but let’s not post suggestions.

HelixShade
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HelixShade

If he can do that, then what’s to stop him impersonating any of us?

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

DUHN DUHN DUHN

Anton
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Anton

Oh god…. it’s like a lame, social-media version of The Thing.

Except instead of sprouting teeth and tendrils, the mimic monster will post “well, I thought Aliens Colonial Marines was a DAMN GOOD GAME” and “Totalbiscuit says….” 30 times over.

Chris
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Listen, I think you’re worrying too much. Why don’t you go and relax with a copy of Ghost Recons: Wildlands, a damn good game IMO that was very underrated, I should send Jim a copy to get him to review it….

Jiryn
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Jiryn

It’s sadly a common tactics trolls used to use to get around IP bans and K-lines during my IRC days.

Nitrium
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Nitrium

By VOIP (Voice Over Internet Protocol) you obviously mean VPN (Virtual Private Network)
– there are so many internet acronyms it’s very easy to get them mixed up! But you’re right – there may be no way to block him sans disabling Jimquisition comments completely.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Thank you for the correction, and understanding my point.
It’s just a sad fact that with enough time and effort, a person (troll) can get around anything, and just spend their time harassing others. Hopefully they get bored and move on however, though I’ve met a persistent few over the years.

No clue how I got the acronyms mixed up, which is even more embarrassing considering my background in networking. I was more worried I was using spoofing and mimic wrong since it’s been years since I’ve had to deal with people doing either.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I didn’t think anything about this 2 days ago, but I am overtly paranoid that he’s cottoned on to the fact we know his “quirks” and is intentionally chameleoning his way back into the community just long enough for us to let our guard down.

I am jumping at shadows over here, somebody get me a magic missile!

Terry-Osaurusus Hex XI
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3}~*”MASTER OF DISGUISES!!”*~{E

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin

You yourself are glossing over reports of EA meddling with the development. Like how they kept asking where all the lightsabers and force powers were, in a game not intended to be about Jedi. They greenlit a game about a smuggler-type character committing heists, then then started demanding other elements because they didn’t believe it would sell without Jedi.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

A point which is fairly amusing considering two of the most prominent characters from Star Wars canon are Han Solo & Boba Fett. I do wonder if this was also a reason that 1313 was cancelled, which was the most notable cancellation that occurred when Lucasfilm was sold to Disney and also a game about the underside of the Star Wars universe.

Rifleavenger Sashiro
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It’s entirely possible the studio was in such a bad shape because it was owned, leashed, and mismanaged by EA to begin with.

Contrary to the pictures used in the episode, EA isn’t a Jason Voorhes or an axe murderer, it’s a serial poisoner.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

As I said in a comment awaiting moderation, I’ve also heard and read rumors that EA (and Disney) were not happy that there were no marketable characters in the game either, no Jedi, etc etc, just a plucky rogue smuggler and his band of Thieves.. and of course both companies want to merchandise!

Benj
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Benj

… Jim’s podcast pal Laura Kate Dale writes for Kotaku, why would it be a dirty word.

Why don’t you just Kotaku off!

Chris
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I would imagine that the poster there is projecting. The kind of people who really hate Jim and want to prove him wrong or silence him (*cough* gaters *cough*) hold up Kotaku as this horrible example of everything wrong with games media corruption and collusion and ‘teh sjews’ and such. So his desire to tell him he’s wrong is competing with a very real desire to never acknowledge Kotaku might be right about something.

It’s kind of funny to see actually

Hugrid
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Hugrid

So just reading the Schreier peice and it’s interesting how company was having trouble keeping employees because no one was interested in making Hardline and it kept soaking up resources and man power due to employees leaving to do more rewarding things, and then the DLC EA mandated Hardline have further continued that vicious cycle even after visceral had finished hardline and started to improve employee morale with promises of working on a cool star wars game.

Like, EA murdered that company, that’s what Schreier says.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

There was a solid single-player experience last year as well No Man’s Sky.

HelixShade
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HelixShade

And the DOOM reboot. Let’s not forget the DOOM reboot. It got a Jimmy Award after all.

Rifleavenger Sashiro
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Persona 5, Etrian Odyssey 5, and Dragon Quest 11 also have been or will be released outside of Japan this year (and two of them were released in Japan last year).

Hugrid
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Hugrid

And don’t forget Battleborn!

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Why not everyone else has.

yaminsoul
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yaminsoul

As someone who primarily plays single player games, and CRPGs most often, I completely agree with this. Especially in the CRPG space, the last few years have seen an actual major increase in titles, both Western produced and games coming into the Western market from elsewhere (Legend of Heroes being brought over for PC made me so happy). I just finished playing Divinity Originals Sin 2, which, while having a very good multiplayer system (several actually), is at its heart a single player, narrative driven game, I would argue, and that has sold at quite well.

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin

Sigh. Is there anywhere I can check the commenting rules? Everything I post gets a “waiting for moderation” flag.

diehardfast
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diehardfast

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Gorantharon
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Gorantharon

It’s the commenting system acting up. I have the same problem with posts randomly being set to “awaiting moderation” without any rhime or reason.

Galactix100
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Galactix100

Sometimes you just need to wait a bit. Justin’s addressed it before and I’m not sure there’s much else can be done about it.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Same, I spoke of the rumors/reports behind the Visceral Star Wars games lacking “Marketability” and got an awaiting Moderation on every reply.

Justin McDaniel
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I promise you, you’re not doing anything wrong, it’s just the moderation system in use. It catches everything I want it to it seems, but also way more than it should. I’ve tried to make sense of it, but I don’t know why it selects the comments it does. All you can do is wait. I’ll come through at least once a day, if not more, and I approve all the regular comments.

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin

Thanks for the reply! I was actually starting to think it was flagging swearing or something. And don’t worry, I’m not impatient, I don’t mind if my posts come up late. I was just worried that if my posts didn’t show up at all, I’d stop trying.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Thank you for being on the ball and on top of this and the other situations that arise on the board!

Stormbringer
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Stormbringer

5 minute episodes was 500% better.

Денис Фролов
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Bottomline – AAA single-player games can fuck off. If they indeed die, I won’t be mourning them. Bethesda franchises will remain for a time anyway, and indie market is there forever.

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin
Bioware makes some of my favorite games, and the fact EA has them in their grips worries me. I think Dragon Age Inquisition was the best in that series, but even then, resources were diverted away from the singleplayer game to tack on a pointless multiplayer mode… with lootboxes (doing it before Overwatch made it cool). EA shuffled ME Andromeda, Bioware’s biggest franchise, to an untested branch studio and forced them to use Frostbite despite the engine not being good for that sort of game (and later canceled the singleplayer DLC because the game was only modestly profitable. Yes, they… Read more »
Jiryn
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Jiryn

The best part of Assassin’s Creed Origins DRM is the fact the game was cracked, and pirated within 30minutes to and hour of release..
Even worse the DRM is so obtrusive that it’s ruining performance for people actually playing the game, causing even beefy machines to crash, or have horrible frame rates.

Денис Фролов
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It’s almost like Ubisoft is encouraging piracy. You can either buy the game and take a dick up the ass, or torrent it and never have to deal with all of this shit.

Benj
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Benj

Plenty of Pirates loved a good dick up the arse as well.

I recommend reading “Sodomy and the pirate tradition” (genuinely a real book)

The Worst Elephant
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The Worst Elephant

It’s infuriating that people who buy are game legally are punished with a worse experience than people who pirate it.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

I remember when the industry said “Adventure Games” were dead in the 90s, and that’s only because they lost their prominence. They were still around, and many good ones were made, the problem was, the market was flooded for a while.
The same thing happened to RTS games, and is happening to FPS and Zombie games.

diehardfast
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Jiryn
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Jiryn

Freelance Police was released, were they working on a sequel?

diehardfast
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Jiryn
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Jiryn

Ah, that makes more sense if true.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Kind of. Telltale’s Sam & Max games were still mostly traditional point and click games but was an actually an original story and wasn’t based on the cancelled the LucasArts as far as I’m aware. It is worth pointing out that one episode of Telltale’s Sam & Max game was about the same length as Hit the Road.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

After playing through all 3 seasons and Hit The Road this year, I partially agree.
Hit The Road is larger, and takes about 2-3 hrs, while a the episodes were 1 to 2 hours max each. Now I am curious if there are any story threads left over from the original game in development.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

I generally found most of the episodes to take about three hours.

Gorantharon
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Gorantharon

JRPGs, for a while publishers decided no one wanted those, then some game, I believe Bravely Default, was released as a “risk”.

It had exactly the success all the clamoring fan base of these games promised, but Square’s comments read more or less as if that was a total surprise to them.

There hadn’t even been any big flop, they had just decided those games were unpopular.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Yep, Nintendo said no one wanted JRPGS and because of which they would not release any Project Rainfall titles (Last Store, Xenoblade Chronicles, Pandora’s Tower).
I was so pissed, I sold my Wii that day.. only for them to be announced weeks later for US release.

Honestly, I love JRPGs and burned myself out playing them in the 90s (every U.S. Released RPG on the SNES through PS1 and Saturn) to the point I can barely touch them now a days unless they really hook me.. but I really didn’t like Bravely Default.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

I would have burned myself out on SNES JRPG releases in the UK but as that was all of about five games, that would be quite tricky.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Not exactly with Bravely Default. Square-Enix still released single player RPG’s but kept changing the formula of how those games worked. Bravely Default was a lot closer to their old school games and then were surprised when it did well.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

But we got Tokyo RPG Factory, Bravely Second, and Project Octopath from that whole mess, so I consider their cluelessness a net positive.

I am intentionally ignoring how what they really meant was they planned on re-releasing all their old games on iOS (then porting the iOS versions to Steam and console), as well as exploiting the now marketable nostalgia for new F2P games and all that sweet sweet MTs money.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Well, all the old Square games and old Enix if they happen to be a Dragon Quest game.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

There are no other games. The Internet is lying to you.

HelixShade
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HelixShade

The same thing is still happening to RTS Games. Petroglyph has (somehow) survived all this time, releasing them 8-Bit Series Games as recently as last year. The same can be said for 4X and Turn Based Strategy games, with the Endless Series (partnership with Sega be damned) and Stellaris holding their own, plus there’s Phoenix Point on the way sometime next year (hopefully).

That said, outside of the Indie Circuit I don’t think we’ll see many of them. And that’s being optimistic, which is also kind of sad really.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Oh god, I played Alone In The Dark Inferno last week for Halloween, it was so bad that during the first 10 minutes I was in tears about how hilarious bad the production value was and had to turn on my streaming device to share it with people.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

As I asked last week, is there any validity to the reports that the real reason Visceral was closed down and the game was refocused was due to not have any marketable characters?
Apparently you play a plucky rogue/smuggler, and there isn’t a Jedi to be found, so EA (and probably Disney) were not happy with this since they can’t sell Merch.

Coughee
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Coughee
Regarding Phil Harrison, admittedly I had that sort of mentality myself regarding single player and multi player. Before things took a turn to a monetization scheme instead of a feature, anyway. Pretty much everybody I knew (and yes, this IS anecdotal and I’m not saying this was true for ACTUALLY everybody) kinda had the same mentality. “I could play this single player game, but hey, this game I could actually play with other people.” So I can see where he would have made that assumption: at the time it seemed especially realistic to me. Nowadays I’m actually super critical about… Read more »
Alex Brown
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At the time, robust online options were a new thing for the mainstream gaming audience. I think, naturally, it was the new hotness that everyone wanted to get in on, and when executives see the metrics rising for a particular segment, they want to jump in it and sell it while they can. Eventually everything swings back into a more natural state.

Terry-Osaurusus Hex XI
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As a wise and ancient Roman poet once said; The words of Ubisoft, Microsoft and EA representatives are written in wind and running water.

La Chica Incognita
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La Chica Incognita

Fun Fact: The only way to “stop” piracy is make a game people want to pay for. Funny, huh?

Chungus
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Chungus

Ain’t gonna happen, even if the game got 10s from every reviewer on the planet. People are cheap fucks.

diehardfast
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diehardfast

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Anton
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Anton

Dude, seriously?

Galactix100
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Galactix100

I’d say let’s see if lessons have been learned, maybe the mass clear out’s had an effect.

Anton
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Anton

If he can get another sock puppet every other day, will he really have to learn anything?

Galactix100
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Galactix100

True, but we haven’t really seen how he’s behaving now. He got one comment on the CoD video which was taken down. Like I say, I think we should wait and see. If nothing’s changed that’s a shame but I think we shouldn’t be too hasty to react.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

At this point though Justin has officially requested he not post anymore.

Galactix100
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Galactix100

Yeah true. I’m a big believer in second chances and rehabilitation though. And as Anton said, there’s nothing to stop him whipping up another account so we might as well see if there’s any change in attitude.

Anton
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Anton

Second chances are fine, but I think we’re past that. He’s been getting into scraps with other regulars as long as he’s been here.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

He’s already had one account deleted and after he was requested to not reply to Chris & myself he still continued to do so.. You would think if he was requested to stop responding to certain people because he was incapable of being civil that might serve as a general suggestion to not behave in that way but he still got into such an argument with someone in the comments section from Podquisition a few weeks ago.

Galactix100
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Galactix100

True but I think there has been improvement on that front. As diamond the go to response to just about everything was profanity and insults whereas now that seems to be a thing of the past.
As for the spamming I can understand the desire to engage, the issue is not crossing that line between engaging in debate and discussion and spamming.
Like I say though I’m very forgiving on certain issues.

Update: Looked through the comments again…

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InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I’m back specifically to address your misunderstanding. I forgot my password and decided I just didn’t care any more, but this…

You were banned for being toxic. For not adding to discussions. Spamming was part of that, but your attitude was also a big part of it. I can’t speak for Justin or Jim, but if I were you I’d walk away with dignity. Ignoring not one but four account bans may be grounds for something more serious, making you the bad apple which spoiled our bunch.

Galactix100
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Galactix100

Hey, good to see you around again. Hope you feel able to come back long term, always nice to have more voices.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Thanks. I wanted so much to tell Jim and Laura that the Pro Controller does motion just as well as the Joycons in Mario, but I wasn’t able to thanks to not wanting to password reset and risk getting angry again.

I haven’t really done anything to address my anger issues. I can’t guarantee I won’t just enable my scripts blocker and walk away again if something (or someone) sets me off again

Galactix100
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Galactix100

I’m sure it’ll be fine. It’s the internet, what’s the worst that can happen?

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Ludoscabib Discobiscuits. Flibbertigibbet. JASON!

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

A thread discussing the BBC’s treatment of Red Dwarf turning into a racist and homophobic criticism of the BBC in general, wishing for the days when Have I Got News For you had exclusively white panel guests.

Admittedly this was Youtube I probably shouldn’t have been surprised at someone posting that.

Chris
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Michael, Justin /specifically/ said you are no longer welcome here after the second or third of your alts he banned over the weekend. This is no longer up for debate or interpretation.

And you literally just spammed this thread in the way you claimed you no longer will. Are you honestly this dense?

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Don’t forget that he doesn’t actually read old comment threads unless he is actively arguing with someone.
I am willing to genuinely believe he didn’t know because he just doesn’t care enough to read the responses unless he has a bone to pick. New articles came up before that post was made, and not being able to log-in is probably a regular occurrence for someone whose default tactic is to sock-puppet.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

With that one, he immediately returned with one of his many alt accounts to the same article and resumed posting so it would be selective ignorance.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I missed that. Entirely. Egg on my face, apologies, et cetera.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

At best it would be a temporary one. For awhile he kept his head down after his King810 rules account got deleted and then that stopped after awhile.

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin

Thank you, for saying ME Andromeda was a good game. I sometimes feel alone in enjoying it. Oh, I absolutely admit that it was a mess, buggy as hell and needing a more focused vision in development. But at its core, the combat was fun, the exploration of new places intriguing, and the story kept me interested. It’s not on par with the original trilogy, but they managed to spit out a decent game despite the bullshit going on behind the scenes.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

The person you were replying to is very unlikely to admit it being a mess or there being anything wrong with it at all. As they are also now convinced that Jim would give Homefront Revolution a better score if he had played it longer and that isn’t an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.

Personally I really also liked Andromeda but it is far from perfect.

Chris
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What part of being banned isn’t sinking in Michael?

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

You’ve been requested by one of the people running the site to stop posting in the comment section, Michael.

Coughee
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Coughee

I’m… Kind of confused regarding the comments replying to the OP. Did he say something that shouldn’t be said in his post?

The Worst Elephant
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The Worst Elephant

He’s a previously banned troll.

Chris
Member

He has had four different accounts banned in the last week for spamming replies to every comment, so that in a thread of 70 he will be personally accounting for 35. The site admin has told him he’s not welcome here and yet he just keeps making new accounts and coming back and doing this exact thing.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

As I mentioned in my previous post one of the people running the site requested he stop using the comment section. In the comment section for Jim’s post about Detroit, there was at one point about 80 posts in the comment section close to 50% of them were from Michael

He has frequently used sock puppet accounts and has resumed posting even after being requested that he not do so. This follows on from having at least one other account banned.

All of this is the result of Michael being incapable of maintaining civility when commenting.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

All it takes is to read his apology just above to realize he isn’t going to stop until we don’t have a comments section at all for him to visit. “I can’t possibly be at fault” seems to be his modus operandi.

Also, I’m back now because reasons.

Rifleavenger Sashiro
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Welcome back. I actually appreciate having you around.

EDIT: My favorite 90’s philiac space alien made a post too! We’re putting the band back together!

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Woo!

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Welcome back dude.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I just wish it was under better circumstances than being utterly flabbergasted at diamond’s immense lack of awareness.

Also, we’ve made Justin’s job harder by having a real conversation under the post. So there’s that.

Galactix100
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Galactix100

There were blocked posts on other threads that didn’t cause the whole thing to be removed so Justin may have found a way around that.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Hrmmmmm. HMMMMMMMMMMM. Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

I have no idea where I’m going with this.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

True but he did also ask for us not to turn the discussion threads into something like this so I think leaving it at this is a better idea.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I want to respond with like, an anime cat that slowly gets a big grin and burning eyes. The subtitle near the end saying “I wasn’t here for that.”

But we can’t post GIFs, And also I’m not sure it exists. And also, also.

Justin McDaniel
Admin

Yeah, I’ve now created a system where I just erase the text and replace it with a generic message saying the account was deleted, that way the comments don’t get screwy. I will delete them if it’s just a single comment by itself though.

And yeah, I’m afraid links and images can’t work in the comments. That goes way back to stopping G2A from spamming the comments with endless ads. I delete roughly 30 spam accounts per day attempting to get in.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Probably the biggest loss from the Disqus days. Oh well, progress and such.

Greene Scott
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Greene Scott

Also on the Oh, Ubisoft, am I the only one who noticed that they used the same excuse the Air Control devs used?

Greene Scott
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Greene Scott
Fans being at fault is sadly true, too many times have I been crapped at or told I’m not a “real” fan by fighting game fans for liking the lore of fighting games and single player stuff like arcade modes, story modes and offline player vs player with my brother. I’ve often been told to accept that they are “dead”, “outdated” and bad even though games like Injustice 2 making great single player modes and selling millions while games who half arse it like MvCI and SFV selling poorly… But still making money due to the sheer amount of the… Read more »
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