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32 Comments on "Star Wars Battlefront II – Gamblefront (Jimpressions)"

ghost whistler
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ghost whistler
And now i will bloviate. This game represents everything that sucks about modern gaming. Ever since Modern Warfare introduced those shitty killstreak systems we now have a two tier experience in these sorts of games, and it fucking stinks. That is, unless you’re wiling to spend all day and all night every day of your life trying to compete with the twitch skills of kids, you will never get to access all the content yo upaid for. Instead you will be the means by which they will. This is fucked up. I like fps games. I like them even more… Read more »
Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin

The Washington Post contacted Sterling for a mainstream article on this whole debacle, as the a “prominent gaming journalist.” Out of all the people they could have contacted, they chose Sterling. Bravo! Reading the article, I could almost hear Jim restraining his language. Great read, anyway.

Cobra_IronFang
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Cobra_IronFang

Ah yet another IP that’s been fucked by it’s owners. Anyone else remember the South Park episode “The China Probrem” with Indiana Jones. Feels like the same shit all over again.

Which is really funny when you also remember that in another episode Disney having the rights to Star Wars was ment to save it and keep it’s quality high.

Yep that plan worked out great.

Cobra_IronFang
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Cobra_IronFang

Damm my mistake, just rewatched it, the Chinese were the ones who were ment to protect Star Wars not Disney. Looks like China should have gotten it after all, South Park was right to not trust Disney.

Doki
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Doki

#ITSATRAP.
1. This is a temporary measure. I compeltely trust EA to put all the microtransactions right back in the game after the holiday sales cash comes in.

2. I suspect the main point they will learn from this is to not have microtransactions at release, and pre-plan to add them in about 2 weeks after launch. Enough time for reviews and pre-orders to go through because why wouldn’t they at this point. All they have to do is say SORRY, and just keep on doing it.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

According to Twitter Feeds, Battlefront 2 went live in Europe a few hours ago, and all Microtransaction purchases have been disabled.
Can anyone Confirm or Deny?

Polishfury5000
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Yes, I can confirm in-game purchases have been disabled for now.

Source:
The Battlefront Sub-Reddit.

Hell of job they did with that AMA. All the backlash seems to have stemmed from that particular Sub-Reddit. It’s been a particularly fun rabbit hole to dive through the past few days.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Yep, it seems PCGAMER is now running with the story.

Chris
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They have a post up on the official dev blog confirming they are turning them off. But they make it clear they are going to turn them back on once they ‘listen and figure out how to balance them’ or something. Read: As soon as the heat dies down and the media moves on to the next shiny object so no one will be mad.

This changes nothing. Still don’t buy the game.

Uldihaa
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According to EA, they disabled in-game purchases. However, “The ability to purchase crystals in-game will become available at a later date, only after we’ve made changes to the game.” Source: “An Update on Star Wars Battlefront 2”; EA Star Wars Battlefront website

So it’s quite possible, even likely, that they will be turned back on post-launch and after any refund period has passed.

Aotrs Commander
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Aotrs Commander
[Aristocrat voice]Speeaking of developers with noe cue, today, Stardock proved that it will never succeeed in the games industry! I mean, really! I bought one of their games (Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation[1]) and one of the missions had a big difficulty spike to the point that a complete newbie scrub of my close acquintance (not ME, you understand, I am clearly a Hard Core Gamer!) couldn’t even play it on the lower difficulty levels. (What a little peasant!) So, I went to their forums[2] and made a polite rant about about it last night, and do you know what?… Read more »
Jiryn
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Jiryn

CNBC Spoke about how Wallstreet is weary and advising people against investing EA due to the Microtransaction backlash
The game is under investigation (Along with Activsion-Blizzard game Overwatch) for illegal Gambling in Belgium. (while the ESRB says it’s not gambling because you always win “something”.. )
Large review outlets are lambasting this game, with Game Informer giving is a 6.5..

This might be a massive wake up call people were waiting for in the industry.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

CNBC published an opinion piece about the backlash. Investors are wary, and EA can’t understand why their monetization method is bad now since they’ve been doing it in FIFA for years and were planning on escalating in the future.

Consumers don’t matter any more.

Chris
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It also won’t matter because backlash or no people will still buy it. You’ll have enough gamers declaring ‘I’m only buying it for the campaign’ or ‘the microtransactions don’t effect me’ and shelling out for it, and then enough gambling addicts actually buying into the loot boxes for EA to make enough money to satisfy the investors. Because ‘gamers’ as a group aren’t willing to miss out on a new toy even as they rant and rave about how terrible it is, and it’s why the industry isn’t getting any better after years of people feigning being upset about the… Read more »
Hugrid
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Hugrid

It’s a licensed IP, disney could step in and pull the license, and bear in mind one of the reasons why Star Wars Battlefront I was deemed to be a disappointment for only selling 10 million copies in the first month is because disney takes a cut of revenues from sales… which actually now makes me wonder if that’s one driving force behind the MT push, when a lot of these IP licenses were sold off MTs weren’t so common so the IP holder probably doesn’t get a cut, or a large cut, of the MTs.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

There were two articles about it on BBC News this week.

malcom young
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malcom young
And now, Jim Fucking Sterling Son, i can really say “Thank God For You”. The France and Netherland governments just announced the beginning of several procedures against EA, Activision but also all products promoting micrtransactions ! It can take time but regulations are coming. Activision was a sneaky bastard, sufficiently sneaky to be invisible to them but thanks to EA and its “elephant in a porcelain shop”, they are pushed to act. To finish, the PEGI instutition (the ESRB equivalent in Europe) have retreated, they said “we can’t said what is gambling or not, it’s not our duty”. Holy shit… Read more »
malcom young
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malcom young
News: In France it’s the ARJEL (Autorithy of regulation of online gambling games) which study the subject, The ARJEL ( aka Publishers Union, EA, Ubisoft, Warner Interactive and Activision are part of it) have been asked to join the discussion, they did not aswer for now. The leader of the ARJEL is in close relation with several big associations of consumers defense and gambling addicton, he know perfectly the subject and look closely since several months. It’s him who asked to be tasked of this regulation. His decision can lead to two things IF he decide to make lootboxes gambling:… Read more »
Jiryn
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Jiryn

Yet the ESRB says “it’s not gambling because you’re always guaranteed some reward/item for your purchase”
Ugh, I hope this finally thrusts these problems into the public at large’s eyes.

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin
The saddest part is, the ESRB was originally formed to impose an industry self regulation, to avoid government regulation. In order to stop attempts at making a federally enforced ratings system, based on increased hysteria over violence and sexual content, publishers and developers put together their own ratings system, and even gave it a small degree of independence. While developers typically tell the ESRB what rating they want, the Board has the final say. For good and bad, as we saw with the “Hot Coffee” incident with San Andreas getting a retroactive AO. Fast forward to 2017, and the ESRB… Read more »
Riuny
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Riuny

Well, that is how most of the government regulations work. If the industry cannot control itself, someone will eventually step in and force it.

Ford.Fairlane
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Ford.Fairlane

If I’m a casino owner, I’m having all of my slot machines spit out a nickel every time someone loses. Now it’s not gambling anymore. Go away, Gaming Commission!

Nitrium
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Nitrium

Since there is no way regulation regarding lootboxes would only apply to paid games, it will be interesting to see how it will affect the countless (especially on mobile) Free to Play games that rely on it as the core business model. Making ALL Free to Play games R18 in Europe will be devastating to many devs.

Nitrium
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Nitrium

The Metabombing is glorious. Pretty sure it’s a new record, 0.9/10 – yes less than 1/10 – (from over 3000 ratings) on PS4.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Would this have been accursed under the review ratings?

Hugrid
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Hugrid

It literally took me a second to realise what was happening after you got out of the TIE-fighter – you had a thing on your back so I thought “oh, they’ve got a really generous jetpack” and then you stayed in the air for longer and longer and I saw your feet and oh my.

Terry-Osaurusus Hex XI
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Hah! That’s impressively bad. Why did the Star Wars licence have to go to EA? ID Software, Bethesda and such could do far more justice to the brand. EA is going to fuck that shit into monetised eternity until they’re hit in the pocket. And even the , they’ll just blame and axe the developer while sitting on the IP indefinitely.

Chris
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Because EA was willing to pay Disney more for it, probably on the promise of all that sweet sweet gambling money.

Anton
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Anton

The most probable answer is that EA promised them the best return on investment. From Disney’s standpoint, that’s the only thing that matters.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

EA having the game licence was announced very quickly after Disney bought Star Wars. It wouldn’t entirely surprise me if Disney were also in negotiations with EA at the same time.

Gorantharon
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Gorantharon

That’s for sure, but Disney is also highly paranoid about the image of their licenses.

If they feel that EA is not only underperforming, but actively harming the license by associating it with gambling, even if only in the public perception, this could lose EA that.

Kirk Hammer
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Kirk Hammer

This video really got me in the mood to go ahead and play some Battlefront II for myself…

…so I reinstalled my GOG copy of the original Battlefront II from 2005. Hey, at least when a Bot kills me I know it’s not because he just bought a bunch of Loot Boxes!

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