The Deadly Spiral Of Live Services (The Jimquisition)

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Once again the “AAA” industry thinks it has a golden goose, and once again it’s primed to bang that goose until the eggs come out filled with nothing but decaying spunk.

saynotogamblingingames
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Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin

I’m honestly shocked WoW is still not only going strong, but is still king of the MMO hill. It was a good game, and they kept improving it. But when I hear people talk about it anymore, it sounds like they see it as an obligation rather than something they enjoy to the point of a decade’s worth of loyalty. The things that keep people in an MMO is the investment and progress, and the community. And yet, a lot of people just log in for the next expansion for a few weeks, then go do something else until the… Read more »

R.M.Renfield
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R.M.Renfield

Great analysis, Jim. The return of the MMORPG is the new era. It really is amazing the way games are evolving into perfect little Skinner boxes. As I see it these games as services things mainly offer two types of ways of substituting real world achievememts for virtual ones. First you have the multiplayer combat things like League of Legends, Overwatch, DOTA, etc, that allow you to feel better than other humans you just beat (much better than beating bots). Alternatively you have the RPG/building a “second you” type thing where you get to make a super powered avatar that… Read more »

IntronEx
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IntronEx

This kind of stuff makes me a special kind of angry. I despised the man, but at times like this a ranting Ian Paisley is in the back of my mind, howling about apostasy. The sheer greed and incompetence on display in games today is as infuriating as it is pitiful

Benj
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Benj

As a fellow Brit, I really hope you’re playing up your Englishness as part of your villain wrestling persona.

The “sinister Englishmen” character is the one Hollywood cliche with British people that I actually enjoy.

MuddyScarecrow
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Essentially this is the exact same problem TRIPLE AAAAY publishers keep getting themselves into. Live Services would be fine as a thing publishers made on top of every other game. Open world games would be fine as an occasional thing made with every other game. First person shooters would be fine you get the idea. But every single time they think they’ve found that magic winning formula they want EVERY game they make to be an FPS or open world or a live service. If they were smart and weren’t greedy they’d probably make some money from this and not… Read more »

Terry-Osaurusus Hex XI
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Damn, all that supressed inner excitement I had at the thought of another Beyond Good and Evil game is quickly fading and dissipating away to reveal a more worried vision of it being an experiment to test this exact type of “games as service” model. Which, by the way, abbreviates to “GAS” and I for one can smell this stinker approaching only too soon.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I miss when games were games. Like we can get some of it from Indies, but I appreciate a big budget title for the sheer “law of averages” affect that several employees working together can make a superior experience to a single writer and programmer working in their free time. I was excited when I saw the newest KH3 trailer, because in my hearts of hearts I’m a Square Enix shill even despite Record Keeper, Brave Exvius, All the Bravest, and Dissidia NT. Monsters Inc, y’all, a match made in dreams. Then I read the transcript of Nomura’s speech that… Read more »

notTheWurst
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notTheWurst

bloody hell, charging for save slots? whats next? buying continues? imagine a Dark souls game with microtransactions, where you get like 10 bonfire retry’s, and it takes a whole day for one to “regenerate” that is unless you pay for like one dollar aka something like a credit on a arcade machine, BTW, have you seen the hidden message in MGSurvive? in one of the early cutscenes, a clipboard with names of several missing, awol soldiers is shown, and if you take the last name of several code names it spells out “KJP Forever”, and the last two code names… Read more »

Galactix100
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Galactix100

I can see the era of ‘live services’ having a lot of releases that go one of 2 ways. Games with lots of time and money invested in them that initially disappoint at which point the publisher is presented with a choice. Either go the Rainbow 6 Siege route and invest even more in the hopes of a long term turn around or go the Mass Effect Andromeda route of saying fuck it and cutting their losses. The risk with the Rainbow Siege route is that there’s no guarantee of success. So, i think we’ll see a lot more Andromedas… Read more »

Greene Scott
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Greene Scott

Good one (: Damn, that article image about the Timesplitters dev made me sad that series went away 🙁 You last point about servers speaks very true, I remember asking that about Titanfall back in 2014 in the Kotaku comments and being told off for not being grateful for not having it for at least 5-10 years and it’s something that’s made me worry about fighting games and their want to apply this model for them. I’m sorry but being told that SFV has 5 years of DLC planned, needs an online connection to earn fight money and the game… Read more »