The Jimquisition: A Lesson In Five Nights

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Five Nights At Freddy’s is a mind-boggling success, but it wasn’t always this way, and Scott Cawthon was not always a horror mastermind.

Adversity and a hell of a lot of criticism got Five Nights creator Cawthon where he is today, and on the second annual Jimdependence Day, we examine how.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Sunday it was your sanity. Monday it was your back. What will you break today to celebrate the Jimdependence?

Stormbringer
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Haven’t watches yet, but come’on! 46 Comments for Jimdependence Day?!?!

Nitrium
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Nitrium

There’s just no obvious point of discussion/criticism you can make for this episode. I actually suspect it was deliberately non-controversial.

George
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George

I didn’t think of that. Good point.

Yaro
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Yaro

Is this a rerun? I feel I this episode has been made already, the topic I mean. Am I trippin’
?

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

No. You just have the power to see into the future!

Cindipool
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Cindipool

Don’t ever let them stop you dancing, Jim!

Nivmarx
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Nivmarx

I’m more in the dislike alley as far as FNAF goes, but I do respect Scott and the dedicated fans who try to piece together the cryptic story. And the best part, the success didn’t Seen to geht to his head. That’s how a success story should go.

GeneralVanDildo
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GeneralVanDildo

maybe because he had a taste of both worlds?

Gergely Farkas
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Gergely Farkas

By the time I’m writing this it’s the 15th here. I almost thought he missed such an important milestone.

Ken
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Ken

Another developer noteworthy of praise was ConcernedApe and his work on Stardew Valley

mrhair
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mrhair

A lot of people get seriously indignant that a popular game series is aimed at kids and not at them. I didn’t get much out of FNAF when I played it, but a lot of work obviously went into it, and that’s respectable.

Eduardo Pigatto
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Eduardo Pigatto

Storyline is pretty good though.

GeneralVanDildo
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GeneralVanDildo

Confusing… but good 🙂

Eduardo Pigatto
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Eduardo Pigatto

I seriously adore the story. But i don’t really like the game itself.

Eduardo Pigatto
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Eduardo Pigatto
That is until Five Nights at Freddy’s 3 and Sister Location, two games which had a gameplay that i could label as pretty good survival horror experiences, and mostly thriller experiences. Jumpscares? Yes, but it’s more than that too. Sadly the rest of the games aren’t more than jumpscares. Except for the first game which induced a ton of paranoia. But that’s about it. Sister Location and FNaF 3 are pretty good, the rest isn’t so much. The story hidden in it feels like a neo-noir, gory drama slasher psychological horror-thriller with mature undertones. I just, really like it. I… Read more »
diamond
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diamond

I dunno, I feel like the FNAF series isn’t really for kids with it’s horror elements.

🌊Parasol Dimensions ☔
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🌊Parasol Dimensions ☔

Merch says otherwise. 100% of clothing I’ve seen for FNAF in stores is aimed at Boys ages 8-12. There’s a lot of plushies and collecty toys as well.

I have yet to see clothing for boys or girls in the High School age group, but I’ve seen younger boys clothes in most major retail chains.

ponyhammer
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ponyhammer

So is Jim dead ?
Will chip take his place ?
Oh well I will just just have to watch review tech USA on second thought that’s a really bad idea .

Brad Fang
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Brad Fang

I stopped watching after about three episodes of him reacting childishly to everything Anita Sarkeesian ever said.
Is he full-on Trump by now?

Wolfie
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Wolfie

I saw partially one episode. And that’s all. Good to hear my judgement wasn’t misplaced.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

I used to be subscribed to Rich. When it came to business in the game industry and calling out things like swatting, he wasn’t bad. But then he drank from the gamersgate kool-aid. And when he made a video about how he won a twitter argument against a SJW, I unsubscribed.

Wolfie
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Wolfie

Oof. Such a shame…

MJC
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MJC
I used to be subscribed to Rich as well, but when he did a video about how Sony wasn’t offering repairs for the PS4 disc eject issue, even though the link he left in the video description that he said was to find your own 3rd party repair service actually led to Sony’s official support form where you would fill it out and they’d send you a box to get your console repaired. In other words, Sony was offering repairs for the issue. I pointed it out in the comments (as well as several other people) and then I waited… Read more »
qorl123
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qorl123

To be fair, one time he made a video about how he owed sarkesian an apology for not believing in death threats against her, and gamergaters gave him a ton of shit for it. But otherwise, yeah you’re right.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

I watched it back then. Don’t get me wrong. I recently restarted watching some of his most recent stuff when I’m bored. I just grew tired of his occasionally sensationalist videos appearing in my subscriptions feed. I’m glad he lowered his anti-SJW rhetoric during my absence.

diamond
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diamond

Yeah fuck him, he’s just like Thunderfoot, Milo and all those other brain-dead anti-feminist types.

qorl123
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qorl123

I used to watch Rich but stopped after all he did was random ridiculous-sounding news stories and every second video was about feminists or sarkeesian.

Ian
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Ian

Just so we’re clear, are you referring to Jim or Review Tech USA?

Jeddostotle7
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Jeddostotle7

They’re talking about ReviewTechUSA.

Brad Fang
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Brad Fang

RTU

Polishfury5000
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Polishfury5000

I’m not a fan of the FNAF games, but I respect the hell out of what Scott Cawthon did. His humility, the perspective it gave, and it’s outcome is an inspiring tale.

(And Happy Jimdependence day to all!)

Daniel Jensen
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Daniel Jensen

Sooooo what exactly is taking the Judge so long to dismiss the case? Seems a bit ironic that a motion to stop wasting the court’s time is taking so much bloody time…

Appretaur
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Appretaur

Eh, if it turns out that the sluggishness here really is all just because the legal procedure is making the dismissal take so long, that could make for an extra knock against the legal system itself when it comes time for certain future Jimquisition(s)…

Lloyd
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Lloyd

From what I’ve seen on a recent video going over the case documents (and my basic knowledge of the court system in general) this is pretty normal for it be this slow.

Not that it was helped by James Romine constantly submitting amendments to their filings and generally being as skilled at legal matters as he is with game development.

Daniel Jensen
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Daniel Jensen

We all knew it was taking forever for the court to even decide whether they have jurisdiction. But I would think that (stop me if I’m wrong) when the Romines themselves asked to dismiss the case, the judge would be a little quicker about it.

Speaking of which… again, stop me if I’m talking bollocks, but would it be possible for Jim to turn the tables and ask HIS lawyers to start drawing out the case now that they know the Romines are broke? I doubt Jim would want to even if he could, but for the sake of argument…

Gareth
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Gareth

Possibly but Jim’s not actually an arse

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Yep, there’s a difference between petty and spiteful. Jim is petty, but he wouldn’t ruin a life that’s already failing: That’s just spiteful.

Lloyd
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Lloyd
You would think so but then this is the US court system we’re talking about, so I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. The way I see it that the Romine’s have requested dismissal means its effectively done anyway and the rest is just a formality. Considering their removal from Steam thanks to their recent antics I highly doubt they can afford to continue or reopen the case even if they get a dismissal without prejudice. You’d have to ask someone else on that other matter, I’m far from any kind of legal expert. I’d imagine that he could try… Read more »
BeigePaladin
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BeigePaladin

because of the double jeopardy law, this must be investigated incredibly thoroughly, because if it is dismissed on a motion of wasting the courts time and then its revealed is was true, the perp cannot be charged again for the actions and effectively ‘gets away with it’

now, here is is just wasting the courts time, but its nice their at least thorough for when this law is relevant

BAH!
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BAH!

There’s no investigation going on, though. At this point, it’s merely DigiHom trying to convince the court that the case has merit. And they’re not doing a great job, from what I’ve seen.

Also, if the suit is “dismissed without prejudice”, they may have a certain window where they can re-file. Civil law is somewhat different from criminal law.

Lloyd
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Lloyd

They couldn’t get over the first hurdle of trying to prove Arizona jurisdiction, let alone their actual case. Though it was funny they went so far as to buy one of Jim’s shirts (from a third party of course) in an attempt to prove sufficient business in the state.

BAH!
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BAH!

That’s one of those things that’s so absurd, it sounds fake… until you remember who’s doing it.

Wolfie
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Wolfie
Yup. I don’t know if I watched the same person or not, but I also recently watched a breakdown of the lawsuit. Just. Wow. Like in one part, they tried to, oh what was it… it was a doctrine that is usually applied to physical injury cases, and they were trying to make it apply to a defamation case. Using this ludicrous example of somehow the Internet is like a car, and because of Jim, they have been run over by this car, causing personal damages. And then there’s the fact that Romine is suing under his name, when the… Read more »
Daniel Jensen
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Daniel Jensen

So basically they’re deciding whether to drop the case with or without prejudice? That makes some sense, I suppose.

Gareth
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Gareth

I think the most surprising element of the court case is Nicholas?

SilentPony
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SilentPony

A horrifying orange monster with dead, lifeless eyes that eventually turns into a roaring success as adoring fans heap praise upon it despite glaring flaws.

…And I guess FNaF is pretty remarkable too. Waha!

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

I see what you did there!

ManuOtaku
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ManuOtaku
Artemiy
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Artemiy

Hey, at least FNAF costs only $5. AND you can easily avoid it.

Maddy
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Maddy

The book’s pretty great

Artemiy
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Artemiy

I’m thinking of acquiring one eventually.

GMBigKev
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I might get it on Audible.

Chris
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Chris

UNRELATED TO THE JIMQUISITION EPISODE:
Hey Jim, do you think publishers are suicidal for all releasing their games in October/November? Titan fall 2, dishonoured 2, battlefield one, infinite warfare, Watch_dogs 2, pokemon sun/moon amongst others…

Like, I know games have different audiences but there is SOME overlap and most people without infinite time on their hands are going to make sacrifices (personally I’m interested in titan fall 2 and watch dogs 2 but i’m buying pokemon since I only have time for handhelds until February next year).

HelixShade
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HelixShade

See last week’s Jimquisition.

aimei66
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aimei66

As amazing as Carl Catron is, and he is amazing, a little part of me was sad that Jim didn’t sing.

Happy Jimdependance day!

George
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George

Congratulations on another year of hard work and success since going independent!

Excellent Episode.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000
Hey, let’s give FNAF credit. At the time it first showed up, horror gamers were still abit scarce, and P.T. was still that golden boy that would bring the beat back (Oh, how wronged were we by the dark God Ko-Nami). It’s like Laura said, it gave the young demographic a horror game that was just intense enough they could enjoy it but not too intense to get unpleasant, and the lore of it, as much as even Scott admits has gotten a bit TOO convoluted (But hey, I’m a Dark Souls fan, I get that), is legit interesting. When… Read more »
Drake Warnock
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Drake Warnock

I think, more than the intensity, it gave the young demographic something unique. It wasn’t like any established horror games or movies either thematically or mechanically. It also owes a lot of its exposure to let’s plays and reaction videos which are also more popular with younger demographics.

It was a lot of factors all coming together to give an entire generation a defining horror experience. That kind of thing doesn’t happen very often.

George
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George

Children’s horror is a difficult thing to make work really well.

Jonathan Roth
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Jonathan Roth

I’m kind of amazed at just how popular Five Nights at Freddy’s is with young kids. Then again, it always kind of freaked me out how many kids were into “Happy Tree Friends” when they toured the animation studio.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

I grew up in the 90s loving the Simpsons because it was super edgy at the time. Then I saw South Park and was like “Oh yeah, poop jokes are awesome! But this social commentary stuff confuses me and I wish it wasn’t there”. Then I grew up and I look at South Park and I’m like “Oh yeah, poop jokes… Well, I can just skip those and get to the juicy social commentary that is always hilarious and on point”.

diamond
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diamond

I used to think South Park was cool back when I thought anything that had swearing in it was cool, but i’ve long outgrown South Park and wish it would end already.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Why? People that are not you still enjoy it. Does the embodiement of the show invade your house in the middle of night to beat you with a stick every week?

diamond
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diamond

Don’t act like there isn’t at least one show that you absolutely despise that you wish would be gone from the airwaves, i’m sure everyone can at least think of one.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Not really. Because I already have all the power over it I need. It’s called “not watching it”. Together with its sidekick, “Not being a dick to people who like things I don’t like”.

diamond
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diamond

Dumbass.

MJC
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MJC

Give it credit for what? Horror games are still scarce now.

I’m talking about legitimate horror games, not just games filled with cheap jump scares and nothing else because they suck at actual horror.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Sure, sweetie.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

Scott has really taken the ball and now running with it. This man is clearly not right in the head in the most delightful of ways.

P. S. A touching video from Markiplier and a nice Jimquisition episode. I’m a very spoiled person tonight. =)

BAH!
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BAH!

I most confess, it felt SUPER good to hear Jim tear at DigiHom’s jugular again. There’s just something so… good about it. Comfort food for the soul.

Happy Jimdependence! Let’s see how long we can keep this trainwreck going!

Ms. Sunlight
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Ms. Sunlight

Chains of Love is one of my favourite songs. I’m old as hell and bought that album when it came out. All warm and squidgy now!

Jef Costello
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Jef Costello

It’s been a, uh, weird week. Glad to see another Jimquisition, and a happy Jimdependence Day to you all.
Unrelated, but Jim if you get around to playing Dishonored 2, open up the options menu and set Head Bobbing to 50 (or just turn it off entirely). Sweet mother of God is that ever annoying.

BAH!
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BAH!

Is there even a point to head bobbing in FPS games? Yes, it happens in reality; but thanks to the brain doing its thing, you won’t notice it unless you’re trying to.

Jef Costello
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Jef Costello

I really don’t get it. Maybe it’s a half-hearted stab at being immersive, but like you mentioned, our bodies don’t work that way. I’m just glad the developers gave us the option of switching it off.

09philj
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09philj

It’s fine to have a subtle amount, and having it makes it easier to convey a sense floating by turning it off.

Stormbringer
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Rotation no, but lateral movement side-to-side and up-and-down yes. Still I’ve yet to play a game that does any kind of walking effect well. Most don’t attempt it. I’ve programmed a simulation of walking (not just canned animations) and there are up to a hundred variables, and if you don’t get any one of them right, the brain notices it immediately. It’s jarring.

Anton
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Anton

Fuck that. I’m setting it to 200 and pretending I’m at an EDM concert.

Jef Costello
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Jef Costello

Okay, but you have to bring your own glowsticks.

SmaMan
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SmaMan

This has to be the most money Erasure’s made in royalties in 30 years… oh wait.

Happy Jimdependence Day!

Nitrium
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Nitrium
Camilo Fernández
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Camilo Fernández

Happy Jimdependence! Shall the world fall apart around us all, we will still be thanking god for Jim Fucking Sterling Son.

AnGer
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AnGer

Not a big FNAF fan myself, but that can, to some extent be extended to all horror games (save a few, though people might argue if Majora’s Mask is actually horror). Still, credit where credit is due, Scott did a marvelous job with the franchise (so much that they’re planning for more Spin-Off Doctors material) and juggling its increasingly complex mythology beyond a realm of the simple, straightforward logic in a way that there’s only fragments of a greater narrative takes a form of guts I personally wouldn’t have.

Happy Jimdependence Day and keep breaking those chains of love.

MJC
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MJC

Majora’s Mask is most definitely not horror.

sagelobu
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sagelobu

Take and learn from failures versus throwing a shit fit and repeating them.
I wonder who else could learn from that besides video game devs.
*not political, don’t steal* >.>

Artemiy
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Artemiy

I kinda wonder if Scott just did it slightly out of spite.
“Oh, you say these look like creepy animatronics? How about I show you how creepy animatronics can actually BE?”

Maddy
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Maddy

It’s still a “I will do amazing work with this idea, just you wait” reaction, and not, well, temper tantrum.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

Yeah, if it was a comeback, it was one of the most awesome comebacks ever.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

It’s up there with Rambo 4, for sure.

Nathan Aldana
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Nathan Aldana

its surprising just how often positively channeled spite creates a work of art.

BeigePaladin
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BeigePaladin

I mean, yes he kinda did, but positive spite. A bit proving that he can make scary, but also taking the critisism he got and using it to determine his direction

to quote the man himself “I looked at the characters from chipper, and said to myself I can make something 10 times scarier than this”

and he did, and he made something that a lot of people enjoy

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