The Jimquisition: Bullshitstorm

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Oh Gearbox, will you ever learn?

So the great minds running the Bulletstorm: Full Clip Edition scene decided to compound its ludicrous MSRP by partnering with G2A. Yes that G2A, the notoriously scummy one that profits from fraud.

How did that turn out, and what does it say of this industry that it happened in the first place? Let’s find out together, you POG freaks!

DJ OakeyDoakey
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DJ OakeyDoakey

Can Pog Fucker have his own show?

galactix100
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galactix100

I’d love Jim to do a sketch show with all of his characters. Pog Fucker, Jimsaw, Rory Fingers, Steam Cleaner and the Cornflakes Homunculus could all turn up. I’d watch that shit.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

And they’ll all flog Chip. SHUT UP CHIP!

Thanatos
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Thanatos

Gearbox knew what they were doing, they hoped no one would notice, and they underestimated just how pwned they would get by TotalBiscuit.

“Yeah, well prove it! Prove that they’re corr-oh, you CAN prove it? Uhhhhhhhhhhhh”

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin
Aw, and I actually felt a modicum of respect for Gearbox this week. The fact that they held a conference call with TB while he not only walked them through G2A’ record of scum and villainy (Jim didn’t even mention their “insurance” policy akin to a protection racket), but also hammered out their ultimatum based on his suggestions. They may have been shockingly deaf to G2A’s reputation, but they responded admirably afterwards. But yeah, fuck that price. Surprised no brief mention of Digital Foundry’s showcase of Scorpio. I know it wasn’t a full reveal, but considering the years of shit… Read more »
drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Yeah but it is respecting them for a situation that shouldn’t have occurred in the first place.

Landy Alexander
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Landy Alexander

Yeah. Planning to do something shitty then backing off when you get massive backlash is not laudable.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Scorpio is looking pretty damn impressive

Muddy Scarecrow
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Muddy Scarecrow

Wait. Digital Homicide has a Twitter account?

Chris Schwartz-Brown
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Chris Schwartz-Brown

They did, I’m pretty sure it’s been abandoned and taken over by spambots the last I checked.

SmaMan
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SmaMan

They also had a website (where that screencap was taken from) though now it just redirects you to a site that looks nearly identical to theirs called “Loot Toot” games… which somehow looks and feels shadier than G2A.

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

You have triggered me, that’s the Union FLAG not the Jack.

Why do you have such a low opinion of Nigel? He’s just a middle class man pretending to be working class, do you not like the working class or something?

09philj
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09philj

My granny, who is a wonderfully sweet old woman, and is on a quest to give everybody she knows heart disease and type two diabetes from tea and cake overdoses, has said she’d like to slap Nigel Farage’s face.

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

Good for her.
My granny once threatened to chop my dick off with a vegetable knife.
Irrelevant anecdotes about grannies. How fun!

SmaMan
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SmaMan

Who remembers that Reddit AMA that G2A did a while back? You know, the one where that one guy (after many attempts, not getting a satisfying answer from them about safeguards and whatnot) walked them through how easy it was to bypass their own shitty security checks to get fraudulent, non-working keys onto their marketplace?

And then G2A fucking banned him for it.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Duke Nukem is awesome.

Anton
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Anton

I know there’s no such thing as a wrong opinion, but goddamn, you’re trying hard.

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Well he didn’t say Forever. So there’s a chance he means Duke Nukem 3D, which IS awesome

Anton
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Anton

He also means DNF

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Indeed, I tried to get into Duke 3-D but it just was not fun for me, i’m not fan of that 90s FPS maze-like level design, I find it very boring.

Otherhand
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Otherhand

He rates Nickelback, Linkin Park, Batman vs Superman, Homefront: The Revolution, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Duke Nukem Forever… I mean, we can extrapolate, can’t we? Probably Prometheus, Avatar, Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, The One Show, James Corden, Formula One racing, Starbucks, pocket fluff, rice cakes, and Thursdays

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

I’m rather suspecting that diamond has never heard of The One Show.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Nope I haven’t, and looking it up I can see it’s a British show, so i’m not sure why he would assume that I even had heard of it.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

I love both Rice Cakes and Batman v Superman. Sorry. :0(

darksteel6
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darksteel6
Not really that unusual at all, lots of people like Linkin Park, they’re not trendy to hate on like Nickelback(though their new song sounds pretty shitty). You’re way off the mark, I fucking HATE Ed Sheeran, I really can’t stand “pretty white boy pop music” like Sheeran, Lukas Graham, Justin Bieber, Shawn Mendes, etc. I think Avatar is definitely overrated, it’s an OK film at best, if it wasn’t for the 3-D nobody would remember it, the environmentalism crap was way too heavy-handed for my liking. Coldplay is OK, but definitely overrated. Not a fan of racing, I find it… Read more »
SmaMan
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SmaMan

As a classic PC gamer, I’m with you on this. It’s a shame his name has been so besmirched thanks to D.N.F.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

DNF was actually the first Duke game I ever played, so I enjoyed it personally, but I get why others did not.

SmaMan
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SmaMan

I actually thought it was okay. Definitely a product of its time, which was the mid 90s, and shooters have moved on since then. (See also, Yooka Laylee)

Then again, I only bought it from the bargain bin for $1, so the bar was set pretty low.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Yeah some of my opinions on certain games might be colored since I got them used for a pretty cheap price(I.E. Morph X, Quantum Theory, Jurassic the Hunted, Sniper Ghost Warrior, etc).

Justin Graham
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Justin Graham

Mechanically, DNF is functional and not a terrible game. But it’s saddled with humor and writing that didn’t age NEARLY as well in any way.

Chris Schwartz-Brown
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Chris Schwartz-Brown

It’s not a matter of ‘aging poorly’, it had humor that was simply sophomoric and stupid at best and often offensive and disgusting at worst. When your main character is walking up to girls crying about being raped by monsters and he makes a quip about it, that’s not ‘edgy’ or ‘late 90s humor’ that’s just gross.

Justin Graham
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Justin Graham

That’s very true.

But even taking into account the absolute worst and most offensive attempts at humor, the jokes pretty much fall flat because, at its “best” and least offensive, it’s still just really sophomoric and not at all clever. It feels in some ways like the script was written in 1998 and only slightly touched up to poke fun at the giant, 14-year dev cycle.

Chris Schwartz-Brown
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Chris Schwartz-Brown

Oh I’m not saying the jokes aren’t also bad and dated, just that I think the other kind are worse. But that’s a big part of what made me lose any respect for gearbox as publishers, that anyone looked at that script and those jokes and said ‘yep, we want our names associated with this.’ Once you do that, you don’t get to come back later and be taken seriously as a publisher. Colonial Marines was just icing on the shit cake after that.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Actually 3-D Realms was responsible for most of the content in DNF, Gearbox mostly just polished up the game for release.

I personally never lost respect for them.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

I thought the humor was pretty funny personally, could’ve done without the hive level though.

Uldi
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Uldi

Well, in a way the humor did age poorly. At the time Duke Nukem 3-D was released, such humor in a video game wasn’t all that common. The violence was, but not the so-called mature humor; the only ones that think that humor is mature are the people that never actually matured in the first place.

It was a new experience and shocked a lot of people, but it’s only really praised by those that played it as teens, I think. I never played it, and Duke Nukem Forever made sure I never would.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Unpopular opinion detected! Prepare outrage missiles!

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Might as well throw another unpopular opinion out there, I actually like Rob Liefeld.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Oh, shoot! He trespassed the defense perimeter! Warm up the flame-throwers! Prepare for a close-quarter flame war…

darksteel6
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darksteel6

I’m going for a home run-I like most movies based on video games, including the ones by Uwe Boll(I like quite a few of his films as well).

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Not a fan of realistically drawn feet then?

darksteel6
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darksteel6

I like his art style.

KaosMachina
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KaosMachina

It’s 49.99 on steam as of the time of this release, Jimbo.

Not that it’s acceptable, of course. But when insulting a product, one should really always make sure to be as accurate as possible!

darksteel6
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darksteel6

That’s still pretty damn pricey for a remaster that does not really add much besides a shinier coat of paint(PC version actually has less options then the original release which Total Biscuit showed in his port report)

KaosMachina
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KaosMachina

I… actually completely agree and said so? It’s not good. $30 would be an acceptable price point for a remaster of the game with new content, I feel. But instead it’s fifty fucking dollarydoos with dlc slapped on top of it. Gearbox is honestly kinda terrible.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

I don’t think they are terrible, just greedy. Rockstar is guilty of that too, they once priced the digital version of GTA V 10 dollars more then the physical version, and they are really stingy about offering discounts for it during Steam sales.

SmaMan
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SmaMan

And isn’t it common practice to offer PC gamers who owned the original product upgrades to the “remastered” edition free of charge?

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Yes, which makes this even more galling.

Pocket
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Pocket

Or at least for a substantial discount, as was the case with Metro, Sleeping Dogs, Doom 3… and that represents three different publishers.

Absolutfreak
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Maybe Randy thought he could change G2A’s nefarious ways and be hailed as a hero to the gaming world.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Seems like it, at the very least this definitely opened some people’s eyes up to G2A’s true nature.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Still surprised that Total Biscuit managed to convince Gearbox to change their minds and i’m especially surprised that they were willing to try and get G2A to change their ways, can’t say i’m surprised that they did not make any commitment to change though.

Otherhand
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Otherhand

That was a charade. Gearbox feigned a case of the vapours, and demanded action by a time that G2A could not possibly meet in order to ensure the deal would not go ahead. They needed to get out.

Andrzej Sugier
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Andrzej Sugier

Yup. Those timeline for such widespred changes ensured that it was absolutely impossible for G2A to comply. It makes Gearbox look spineless in my eyes.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

It was not impossible, you do not know that for a fact.

Anton
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Anton

It would have required G2A to give up a huge cut of its revenue while rebuilding their entire infrastructure.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

They are making so much money it was entirely doable.

Anton
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Anton

On Bulletstorm? U kidding me mate.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

I’m referring to G2A, they make a ton of money from sponsoring E-sports teams.

Anton
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Anton

No, they get advertisements from e-sports teams. The money comes from the piracy.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

The money comes from the piracy.fraud.

FTFY.

Andrzej Sugier
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Andrzej Sugier
Oh I’m absolutely 100% sure that it was impossible. Their demands required widespread refunds and restructuring of the whole G2A business model, this is not something that can happen in two weeks. Even if they were willing to implement reckless, untested and very costly policies the formal and administrative side of things including 3rd parties would take too much time. Besides… This is not a way that real companies do business. You don’t post treats on the internet aND wait for a reaction of the secondition party. This is most probably just a strawman to save some face and G2A… Read more »
Chris Schwartz-Brown
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Chris Schwartz-Brown

Yeah, the whole thing stinks of Gearbox realizing they were caught and needing a way to back out without looking like they knew it had been wrong to begin with. They are scumbags and knew exactly what G2A was before they got in bed with them, these are the people who somehow thought it was okay to charge people full price for both Colonial Marines and Duke Nukem Forever, they have no morals.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

They are not “scumbags” at all. Also your logic that because you don’t like a game it’s not worth full price is bullshit.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

They only wanted G2A to publicly commit to making changes, they could not, therefore it opened many people’s eyes.

Otherhand
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Otherhand
And I’ve got a bridge to sell you. G2A would have had to extend its Shield fraud protection to every single customer free of charge by April 14th (which is a time-consuming change, and also one that would cost G2A money in admin and investigation), to set up a throttling system within two months (again, complex, requires planning), to create a flagging system for the publishers’ use within 3 months (again, with no charges), and to create an all-new payment system within a month. The first one alone was impossible, and Gearbox knew it. Ain’t it funny how much detail… Read more »
darksteel6
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darksteel6

They still could’ve made a commitment.

Uldi
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Uldi

I do believe that those suggested improvements were part of what Totalbiscuit sent them.

And extending the Shield fraud protection is a lot easier than you think. You just eliminate the subscription. The flagging system should already exist. After all, how does it protect customers from fraud otherwise? If it’s just a case-by-case basis, converting that to a flagging system would fairly simple.

Daniel Jensen
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Daniel Jensen

From my understanding Gearbox gave G2A multiple deadlines to actually implement the changes, though they wanted at least a public “yes/no” by 24 hours.

Like Jim pointed out, they didn’t make ANY sort of response before that time. Not even a “hey, give us a while to think about it”.

And even when they DID give a response (this was done after the video), all they did was deflect and blame everyone else and even accuse Gearbox of defamation, while making a PR statement more or less CONFIRMING the accusations.

joegvo
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joegvo

Oh Ubisoft should be renamed to either Ubiclassy Ubisoft, or You Be Soft Ubisoft.

Peter Quint
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Peter Quint

Interesting in your rage you pronounced the “Duke” of Duke Nukem in the American way: “Dook”.

I started to get inconsistent pronunciation when I spent a while in America too.

And then everyone relentlessly takes the piss out of you when you get back to England for “trying to be American”.

Pocket
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Pocket

Apropos of nothing, a game about a badas, gun-toting ferret named Dook Nukem would be awesome.

Allan Weallans
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Allan Weallans

I always pronounce Dune the American way because I don’t want people to say “June? What?”

I guess juke is a real word too (I think? I’m getting a squiggly red line under it) but it’s not as common, plus there’s context in Duke Nukem (the, er, ‘Nukem’ part) to help you.

Error 52
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Error 52

I’m offended by that Nigel Farrage comment!

Swallowing spiders in your sleep is actually a myth. Fuck Nigel, though.

Anton
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Anton

The real victim here is the game – which is underappreciated in my opinion. It had a chance at a late re-emergence, and Gearbox shut it down with this stupid scandal.

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

In many ways it was ahead of its time what with the comedy aspects and mechanics you could mess around with. Probably would have done well in 2013-2014 when PC was starting to gain prominence and games like “The Stanley Parable” were coming in.

Anton
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Anton

Nah, it would have done fine, it was just a victim of its own marketing. The game actually had a lot of clever moments that were not at all represented in the trailers, which conveyed that shutting your brain off was mandatory.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

I thought the marketing was fine, the game just came out at a bad time.

Andrzej Sugier
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Andrzej Sugier

Yeah, the marketing for this game was juvenile and crude, which is a shame as their spoof teaser game Duty Calls was acctually really funny amd clever.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

I didn’t think the spoof teaser was particularly clever or funny, to me it felt just as unfunny as those Seltzer-Friedberg movies.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Not really no, considering that Gearbox very publicly severed ties with G2A thanks to Total Biscuit convincing them behind-the-scenes, so Gearbox are now heroes in many people’s eyes shocking as that might seem to you.

Anton
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Anton

Yup, scrambling to save face after agreeing to work with pirates is real fucking heroic.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Exposing people to G2A’s true nature is considered heroic by a lot of people.

Anton
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Anton

Except that everyone already knew their true nature.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Not everybody, you’d be surprised at how many gamers don’t know about G2A. If you’re one of those people who always reads gaming news you know, but there’s plenty of more casual consumers that don’t pay attention to that stuff.

Anton
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Anton

Yep, because the casuals are JUST NOW tuning into the state of affairs of remastered shooters from the ass end of the 360 generation. Everyone’s gonna find out!

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Yes key phrase “going to”, but it’s a fair bet that before this many people less well-versed then us did not know.

Anton
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Anton

Sure thing bud.

Brotown
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Brotown

That is a -very- generous way to spin it. Like, you should get a tax write-off for how generous you are with this. C’mon buddy.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Never said I personally did, just saying that’s what others have said.

Benj
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Benj

It’s probably true that Gearbox’s actions have made a few more people know about G2A’s shit practises than they did before.

The praise for this rests with their detractors (like TB) and not with them. I’m not going to praise Bill Cosby for raising awareness of sexual assault even though he probably has done, technically.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Not really the same thing but whatever.

Brotown
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Brotown

It is EXACTLY the same thing. •Your logic is to praise Trump for bringing awareness to unwanted pussy grabbing.
•Your logic is to to praise Lebron for bringing awareness for flopping.
•Your logic is to praise 5 Finger Death punch for bringing awareness to shitty music.

…when people fuck up, you dont look at them and go “wow! Thanks heroes!” If i sound annoyed…it’s because I dont like it when there’s a display of complete lack of logic/common sense.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

wow you are a complete fucking moron, no it’s not remotely the same thing, comparing Gearbox to Trump shows how fucking dumb you are.

Also Five Finger Death Punch is awesome and not “shitty” at all.

Brotown
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Brotown

*hand over head motion*

BadassMcKill
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BadassMcKill

I think people just assumed it was just another shooter a la Gears of War and didn’t bother giving it the time of day

Which is as you said a shame because it was actually a ton of fun

Anton
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Anton

The art style is partially to blame, imo. A lot of the assets, like the armor and weapons look like they were taken, with very minor alterations, from either Gears or Unreal Tournament games.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

I never got that impression myself.

Anton
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Anton

Of course you didn’t.

Chris Schwartz-Brown
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Chris Schwartz-Brown

He won’t get that impression until Yahtzee or Total Biscuit tells him to.

La Chica Incognita
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La Chica Incognita

The game is still being sold. What’s going to keep it from gaining popularity now is the price tag; 50-60 bucks for a remaster of ANY game is ridiculous.

I might be cynical but this whole G2A thing might of been drummed up to make Gearbox look good in a misguided notion that gamers would buy an overpriced product to “support” them. I can’t fathom why they thought that price point was an acceptable business strategy otherwise.

LegendaryFrog
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LegendaryFrog

Another great video, Jim. This is the exact type of behavior that governments are supposed to protect consumers from, even if they’re foreign based. History has proven that if you don’t specifically tell a company that they’re not allowed to rip off their customers they’ll screw them over until someone calls them on their shit.

It’ll be interesting to see if G2A makes any changes to their policy following Gearbox’s public demands, but since they’ve been in business for so long with a ‘big’ publisher like GB I certainly won’t hold my breath.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

They didn’t make any changes, Gearbox severed all ties with them.

LegendaryFrog
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LegendaryFrog

Ah, thanks. I should have searched for that on the net, I guess.

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

For anybody even thinking about defending G2A, I would like to make it clear that just because they offer cheap games does not excuse them credit card fraud, exploitative behavior, and a complete disregard for who they damage.

When you are doing less damage to a developer and the industry at large by circumnavigating their DRM and releasing a free torrent on Pirate Bay and are encouraged to do that over G2A, you know something is wrong.

LegendaryFrog
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LegendaryFrog

And big companies wonder why people pirate? It’s been a while since I pirated an actual game. GOG, Steam and Gamefly are simply too convenient and easy to use to bother with cracks, keygens, etc. It’s almost never related to money, but they just don’t get it.

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

People who pirate are generally those that either have no other choice (e. G. Australia banning/censoring games) or do it out of habit. For the latter, I remember Nerd Cubed talked about how people pirated his game despite the fact that it was free and had an option to download a torret if they preferred.

Personally I’ve never felt the need to pirate because I like to finish the games I play and I like having fallbacks in case something happens.

Anton
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Anton

The only piracy I’d ever condone is PC conversions of console games that would otherwise be inaccessible. If I did that, though, I would still go out and buy a copy of the game for whatever platform it was originally for.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

I’ve only pirated obscure PC games that aren’t available on any digital platforms and which are very tough to find physical copies of(Surprisingly the directors cut of Silent Hill 2 is almost impossible to find on PC through legal means, physical copies are rare and expensive).

darksteel6
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darksteel6
Not defending them, i’ve never shopped there myself, but i’m not going to vilify the people that do shop there if they say live in a place where games are WAY overpriced(I.E. Australia, Greece, several of the smaller countries neighboring Brazil, India and Russia) or foreign country where Steam games are only priced in U.S. dollars(I.E. Argentina). G2A exists because Steam has a service problem, and I would encourage Jim to talk to Valve about this, if they can make games more affordable for people in those countries, it’ll be a step towards convincing people not to buy from G2A.
Artemiy
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Artemiy

How are games overpriced in Russia? I get a feeling that the prices here are pretty compatible with American prices.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

Not overpriced in Russia, but they are overpriced in countries that happen to neighbor Russia.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

“Framerate enthusiast” TotalBiscuit.

I get it.

galactix100
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galactix100

I’m glad the pog fucker’s getting more air time. Unfairly maligned in my opinion.

Jamesworkshop
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Jamesworkshop

I could one-up the price point

60 bucks remaster of Hellgate: London.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Does this industry really need Gearbox? What did they contribute that was ever good? I mean, I really liked Borderlands 2, but my existance will not lose meaning if I live in a world without Handsome Jack.

Ashur Arbaces
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Ashur Arbaces

Half Life: Opposing Force

But that was long ago. Also they saved the homeworld franchise IIRC.

Otherhand
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Otherhand

Borderlands arguably paved the way for Overwatch and the general trend for fun and colourful semi-cartoon FPSs. Not much though, I grant you.

galactix100
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galactix100

Team Fortress 2

Otherhand
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Otherhand

Hmm, I see your point, but Borderlands was something different again in terms of each character being an individual hero with more depth, rather than simply a class. Without Borderlands, I think TF2 could easily have been a one-off FPS that happened to have a cartoon aesthetic, whereas Borderlands opened up a vital extension into a new territory.

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

Homeworld Remastered. That’s what you can thank Gearbox for.

That was was a game that had become the “Grim Fandango” of RTS due to incompatibility with newer OS. And the remaster turned out fantastic.

Anton
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Anton

There’s a lot that this industry doesn’t need.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

I think the Borderlands games were really damn good, and I also quite enjoyed Bulletstorm, Duke Nukem Forever and Colonial Marines(Thought the latter two were admittedly probably because I did not have massive expectations for either).

Andrzej Sugier
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Andrzej Sugier

Bulletstom was originaly developed by People Can Fly and published by Epic, Gearbox had nothing to do with that game.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

Hmm… Hired Aspyr to port Borderlands 2 to Linux?

goodbyejojo
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goodbyejojo

gearbox and controversies go together like cops and donuts

iThinkMyCatIsAFlea
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iThinkMyCatIsAFlea

Randy Pitchford knew about [email protected]

I think Gearbox should start selling $45 coins to those that have owned any Gearbox Software games for over five years. There’s clearly a market for this type of scam as Schatskeys have proven.

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Real talk though. After all the shit they pulled with Aliens: Colonial Marines, the false advertisements, the fake demos, the downgrades, the funneling money into Borderlands 2, glitches and complete lack of polish and respect for the Aliens franchise, I don’t think Gearbox deserves the respect you’re showing it Jim.
They don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt, or to be treated like anything but a duplicitous, thieving, cynical shit factory. And they can’t even make interesting shit.

darksteel6
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darksteel6

I personally think they do, they were quite gracious with TB and they certainly opened up people’s eyes by getting G2A to show their true colors, so it’s at the very least a step in the right direction.

Pricing the full clip edition of Bulletstorm at 60 dollars is rather greedy though.

SilentPony
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SilentPony
Do not impose competency where none exists. Being too ignorant, willfully or otherwise, to do business with a fencing platform like G2A is not the same as being an internet vigilante. Gearbox was motivated by money, not some 1995 Hacker’s desire for clever electronic justice. And who cares if they were gracious to TB? They openly lied to Jim’s face about Colonial Marines! The demo they gave him to play was, literally, not part of the game. It was made specifically to trick people into buying the real game, whose budget had been secretly shifted over into Borderlands 2. Gearbox… Read more »
darksteel6
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darksteel6

We don’t know for a fact that the rumors about Gearbox using money from ACM to work on Borderlands 2 were in any way true, there’s no hard evidence to back that up.

Chris Schwartz-Brown
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Chris Schwartz-Brown
They weren’t even gracious to Total Biscuit. They demanded he provide proof of things that are common knowledge in the industry. That was desperation, feigning ignorance now that this was becoming a publicity problem for them. They didn’t need him to do their work for them, they needed 30 seconds and google, even /if/ I pretend to believe that Randy ‘lies to people’s faces’ Pitchford didn’t know all this to begin with, the first story that came out linking them together negatively should have resulted in even a basic amount of research. Honestly I don’t think anyone who was going… Read more »
SilentPony
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SilentPony
Otherhand
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Otherhand

You’re being way too nice to them to give the benefit of the doubt to a single decision-maker at Gearbox. They definitely knew, and what’s more they thought it was going to earn them badboy cred. They imagined it would be like the Hotline Miami creator saying he was cool with piracy, only times a thousand.

Muddy Scarecrow
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Muddy Scarecrow

Well even then that situation was very specific. Since he was talking about pirating Hotline Miami 2 in Australia if it ended up being banned there.

Otherhand
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Otherhand
Yeah. (That was for HM2, by the way – he was also piracy-friendly when it came to HM1 back in 2012, and that wasn’t about problems in one country. He extended tech support even to players who got the game for free via torrents.) But a few indie devs have received a lot of goodwill for being accepting of piracy and just saying it’d be nice if you buy the game later, or in the case of the Super Meat Boy developer for saying DRM is worse for them than piracy. I don’t know if it translates into money or… Read more »
darksteel6
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darksteel6

When you live in your own bubble it’s easy to not know things that may seem obvious to you.

Otherhand
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Otherhand

If you live in a bubble of games development, you definitely know about all the commercial threats to your livelihood. You also don’t wake up one morning and discover you’re in a deal with G2A. Each side hires lawyers, you check out your prospective new partners, and only when you’re sure do you pull the trigger.

Anton
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Anton

For some reason Randy Pitchford seems like the kind of guy who would represent himself legally.

Otherhand
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Otherhand

I love the fact that he’s an ex-magician.

Anton
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Anton

Judging by ACM, the magic never stopped XD

Andrzej Sugier
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Andrzej Sugier

+1 to that, there is no way they didn’t know about G2As opinion. They just didn’t care about it, and all this circus is just a PR spin on being called out for their indifrence.

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