The Jimquisition: Can Evolve Cut Down The Bullshit Tree?

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A year ago, we talked about how Evolve fell out of the “AAA” Bullshit Tree and hit every branch on the way down.

Turtle Rock’s multiplayer game of predator and prey prototyped the current trend of unfinished games that used DLC like crutches, and suffered as a result.

Now it’s back, completely free, and redesigned as Evolve Stage 2.

And that’s… interesting.

ENAY
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ENAY

I’m sorry, I’m really sorry, I’ve tried to see it.

I know it’s supposed to be a burning alien hand print in a rocky wall, but all I can see is flaming pieces of poo.

Ian
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Ian

I never actually played Evolve, so take my opinion with a grain of salt…

This could be too little too late, and it doesn’t seem like a perfect solution, but otherwise I agree with Jim – it’s nice to see a developer that 100% bought into the triple-A bullshit admit that they fucked up and try to fix it.

La Chica Incognita
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La Chica Incognita

Considering the player base of Evolve was less then 200 people last I checked (I’m pretty sure a few children’s games from the 90’s had more active players…) They had to do SOMETHING to keep this game from dying out, however, I’m still severely doubtful its going to work. Last time I glanced at the forum the few people left in the game were bitter angry and defensive about Evolve and had totally turned me off from looking into the game more.

Zeria
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Zeria

Maybe Stage 3 will be to actually make a decent game. Who knows?

Graham Miller
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Graham Miller

I assume this is relevant to your interests?

Urbex Bootleg Glitch
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Urbex Bootleg Glitch

I’m guessing the Pogs4Boglins bit is poking fun at the CSGO Lotto official response, but without directly bringing that up, is anyone going to remember that if they rewatch this video a year from now?

Kelerak
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Kelerak

The way I see it, Evolve is trying to get an audience in a similar fashion to WildStar, in which I like to call “the MMO death cycle”. Usually, the cycle goes “subscription, one-time pay, megaserver, free-to-play”, and by the time the megaservers roll around, the game’s population plummets. Sure, F2P will bolster the player count for a bit, but there’s no guarantee that it’ll be sustainable at all. Given Evolve’s tattered reputation at this point, Evolve going F2P won’t really do much in the long run. It’s a last effort in order to attempt to salvage the game, but… Read more »

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP

I’m in the camp of “this is an isolated incident that’s happening because 2K realized that they had to make the money back from Evolve SOMEHOW, and this is a calculated gamble on their part”.

And I’m in the camp that nobody will learn ANY lessons from this example. Especially not the executive types who rule companies like EA and Capcom now. If they see that something like this breeds only failure and contempt, they’ll respond with “NO, IDIOT, you must have done it wrong, what we think CAN’T be wrong”. Then continue as usual.

Malidictus
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Malidictus

Frankly, I found Evolve to be a giant pile of toss on release. I’m not sure what people call “tension” but all I ever saw of it was utter, sheer boredom punctuated by brief moments of utter frustration. The game consisted of 90% running around not doing anything, 10% awful, awful combat. The game seemed to expect the monster to “stalk” the hunters as it hunted it, but there never seemed to be a point to picking a fight until you’ve “evolved” all the way up. Otherwise, some tosser will toss a dome and you’re either dead or hurt badly… Read more »

Sharadufobash
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Sharadufobash

Nice: Jim’s coming back home. Good, the country needs you, mate – we’re going to the dogs here.

London. September, you say? Cool, I’m probably too poor to afford to get in but if you see a guy outside drinking Diamond White cider and molesting stray dogs, say hello.

kripto sporidium
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kripto sporidium

Question : I know I’m gonna get accused of shifting the blame of fanboyism or whatever, but why haven’t you mentioned 2K, the publisher? If you look at most recent 2K-published games, you’ll see they all share the same DLC-riddled state. Just seems a little unfair to dump all the blame on the developers, who have even mentioned on the forums that they were (among other things) forced to charge shockingly high amounts for new characters, after barely convincing 2K people that they shouldn’t also charge for new maps and such.

PassingAtRandom
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PassingAtRandom

I knew Jim would talk about this as soon as i saw the “Evolve stage 2 f2p” on Steam…

Jim Cravat
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Jim Cravat

I remember picking this up on release day and, within a month, feeling like it looked a lot better on paper than in the flesh. A bit like a newspaper ad for a prostitute shaped like your friend’s mum.

ooktar
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ooktar

I’ve never played evolve before until recently when it went free to play and to be honest I dig it. I’m not one for multiplayer games in general but evolve is actually rather fun and it’s free to play model is something that i’m actually into. For the most part you can pretty much unlock just about everything by playing the game and it doesn’t feel super grindy either as they seem pretty generous about the in game currency.

HyperBadger
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HyperBadger

On the whole this can’t help but find this to be a positive move. Sure I bought it on release and yes its a shame I won’t get more as a ‘founder’ but to be fair i’d written off evolve and accepted the loss long ago. Getting riled up about something i’d given up on just isn’t worth it. If it means the game gets a fresh jolt and a few people get some fun out of it then it’s better then it simply gathering dust. Heck I might finally convince a couple of friends to play a game or… Read more »

Scott John Harrison
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Scott John Harrison

When I heard 3,000 keys – I was thinking 3,000 of TF2/CS:GO type keys and I thought that was a pretty good deal.

Dave Dogge
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Dave Dogge

I want my pre-order money back for this piece of shit.

KyoKusagani
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KyoKusagani

We’ll have to see if Turtle Rock studios has the commitment to stick to their guns and provide us a fantastic service like The Witcher 3 x Splatoon;continuously receiving regular content updates and intriguing new maps on a daily basis!

The idea behind the game is solid, yet it’s been hampered ever since launch with oversaturated DLC’s.

I want to see this bold move pay off, let’s hope for the best.

Derek
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Derek

What team did you choose in GO?

SilentPony
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SilentPony

I think MOBA games are doomed from the start. The entire experience is based off a continuous community, and its today’s saturated video game market that’s impossible. Overwatch is riding high now, but before the end of the year it’ll start dropping, and by 2018 it’ll be as popular as TF2, that is to say a small rabid fanbase, but small none-the-less.

Thanatos
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Thanatos

You have to wait a bit to see if any of the people trying it will stay around. See what the numbers say in a month.

Mike Wallace
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Mike Wallace

No, it’s kind of hard to get down from the Bullshit Tree. This is lower on the branches, maybe accessible to people with ladders, but it’s still inconvenient. I give this game maybe 5-6 more months and then TR will shut it down or announce that sequel. They have no idea what they’re doing.

Anton
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Anton

It doesn’t matter if this succeeds or fails in stage 2. Evolve did badly not because of its bad business practices, but because it’s a mediocre game. As long as publishers have a product they know is actually good – or a respected franchise they can exploit – they will drag every penny they can out of us. And, apparently, the majority of us will pay and then tell them thank you.

Anton
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Anton

I disagree with this episode, in that Jim seems to be

Artie
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Artie

It will be pretty interesting to see how this workd down the line… though I don’t believe Evolve will come back to the spotlight, it could make it survive longer. It all depends on the developers will to keep it interesting with some real meat into it. If this works, we could see more AAA games going the F2Play model. What at the same time scares me are the methods publishers and developpers will find to keep games like this proffitable. I don’t believe selling cosmetics alone will do. But then again, look at the whole industry around CS:GO (… Read more »