The Jimquisition: Circle Of Strife

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GameStop, it’s time to sit before The Jimquisition and listen to the charges brought before you. Lament, ye sinner, and may God have mercy ‘pon your rotten soul.

Also, your Circle of Life thing is broken bullshit, as is your whole working relationship with the game industry. Shove THAT in your circle.

(Kotaku’s coverage can be found here)

Thanatos
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Thanatos

Thanks for reminding me why I shop at your store the least amount I possibly can, Gamestop.

You are not a store that sells games. You literally are attempting to avoid selling games. I noticed years ago.

Hiroshi_Mishima
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Hiroshi_Mishima
I don’t particularly feel like reading back over 250 comments, especially given what I’m about to bring up doesn’t seem to be common. I’ve been going to GameStop off and on for over 15 years, possibly from the day they opened; it’s hard to remember that far back. I’ve been to numerous stores both in my state and a couple elsewhere, mainly Michigan and California. By and large, I didn’t see anywhere near this visceral level of shenanigans at some of the local ones. That doesn’t mean I haven’t encountered this period, just that in my personal experience it hasn’t… Read more »
arcaedian
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arcaedian

Ha, I’m sorry that this thought-out post has received no attention. I do feel, however, that your experience may be the anomaly.

RedWolf
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RedWolf

Fuck me, remind me never to get a job in retail.

Miles Saintborough
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Miles Saintborough

Retail and customer service should be a punishment for criminals.

BAH!
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BAH!

Retail in general isn’t great, but some are definitely worse than others.

Aotrs Commander
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Aotrs Commander

Well. After rading comments and seeing Game UK is no better, I feel zero sympathy that I get all my (very rare now) physical games from Amazon and have done for years and years.

(Basically, since Game decided it apparently didn’t want my custom anyway, when it stopped selling PC games.)

Landy Alexander
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Landy Alexander

Fun gamestop story I have. Like 6 years ago I went to my local gamestop to buy a used copy of assassin’s creed 2. As I was leaving the store I looked at my receipt and saw a 2 dollar charge for a warranty. I did not ask for a warranty, nor was I asked if I wanted one. I go back in, ask what’s going on, he says there has been a mistake and gives me 3 bucks out of the till. Didn’t ring up a refund, just pulled out of the till.

Chris
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That sounds like they were trying to pull something to pad their warranty numbers, and not refunding you means they still get credit for the sale while a couple bucks short on their till will get written up to a mistake in making change.

I say that as a long time retail employee and current manager, cashiers almost never just accidentally add things that require extra buttons, especially something that they get rewarded for selling more of.

Landy Alexander
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Landy Alexander

Yeah that’s what I presumed.

Michael Prymula
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That was nice, one time when I went to my local GS the clerk gave me an extra 5 dollars in store credit just to be nice.

Hork
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Hork

I’m sure I’m not the first to say it, but lots of non-game-related stores are suffering just like Gamestop. They all try and push their credit cards, reward programs, etc in order to keep profits up in the face of Amazon and Walmart. Sears, for example, tries so hard, they do pretty much everything described in the COL program, except without the used games part.

Gaealiege
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Gaealiege

If a Sears rep can suck a golfball through a garden hose, I’ll consider the rewards card.

alextulu
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alextulu
The people, who made the Circle of Life, thought that the only thing that it can do, is incentivize employees to sell more used games. Those people are so disconnected from reality, that they never thought about what happens, if the customers just don’t want used games.(like when a new game has just launched on that day, and it’s only available as new) What happens, is that employees will try to sell fewer new games in order to keep their score, meaning that fewer sales are done in general, meaning that Gamespot makes less profit. They thought, that the Circle… Read more »
Bilateralrope
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Bilateralrope

It might not be idiocy. In the long run, Gamestop’s business model of selling games is doomed. Digital distribution will keep growing until physical distribution of games ceases.

The only question is how much money Gamestop can squeeze out of that consumers before that happens.

alextulu
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alextulu

“The only question is how much money Gamestop can squeeze out of that consumers before that happens.”

Did you read what I said:

“What happens, is that employees will try to sell fewer new games in
order to keep their score, meaning that fewer sales are done in general,
meaning that Gamespot makes less profit.”

Bilateralrope
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Bilateralrope
Fewer new sales from Gamestop, yes. How many other places that sell physical copies do second hand sales ? Might Gamestop be relying on people buying a new game elsewhere, then selling it to Gamestop ? A lot comes down to numbers. If Gamestop think that acting honestly will keep them selling new games for 5 years, while this scheme will cut that down to 3 while doubling profits for that time, then it’s a win. Finally there is the depressing level of awareness consumers seem to have. How many high profile games have failed to live up to their… Read more »
alextulu
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alextulu
“Might Gamestop be relying on people buying a new game elsewhere, then selling it to Gamestop ?” I don’t see how that’s possible. “If Gamestop think that acting honestly will keep them selling new games for 5 years, while this scheme will cut that down to 3 while doubling profits for that time, then it’s a win.” This only works, if the number of used game sales increases to a point where in compensates for the loss in new game sales. Bu this doesn’t happen, because some people just don’t want used games. What happens instead, is that sales of… Read more »
alextulu
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alextulu

People blame used games for the existence of online passes.

But what if cutting the game and selling the pieces as DLC also happened because of used games.

Because DLCs are not on physcal media, so you can’t buy them used.

alextulu
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alextulu

Gamestop does make more money from used games, but not as much as people think.

They can’t make all the money from used games, because used games come from trade-ins, which have to be paid.

Also, $2 per new game is the profit for Gamestop, not the revenue.

The revenue is about $12. $10 goes to expenses and $2 is the profit.

GMBigKev
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Yea, but a trade-in value of $4 is then turned around into a purchase price of $30 or so.

alextulu
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alextulu

I did, say that they make more money.

It’s just that, that most people think, that Gamespot makes 100% revenue, which is not possible.

HerbertGW
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HerbertGW

I’m pretty sure no-one thinks that. People understand that wages need paying, rent, bills, etc etc. What people think, and correctly so, is that Gamestop keeps 100% of the money it gets from the sale of a second hand game.

alextulu
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alextulu

New games are bought from the publisher at $48 per game, and are sold for $60

Used games are bought with trade-ins at the prices listed on their website, and are sold at the prices listed on their website.

I don’t understand what you’re talking about, when you say 100%

HerbertGW
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HerbertGW

I’ll make it simple.

None. of. the. money. goes. to. the. developers/publishers.

Gamestop keep 100% of the money of used game sales. Which is what Jim said in the video. You just don’t seem to grasp what that means in context.

alextulu
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alextulu

“None. of. the. money. goes. to. the. developers/publishers.”

But some money goes to the previous owner, who sold it to Gamestop as a trade-in.

Used games don’t come out of thin air. They have to be bought from trade-ins.

It’s not 100%

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Different publishers arrange different deals with different shops for different games. For example, when does the publisher gets paid? Before or after sales? Lots of developers don’t see any revenue until 90 days after release.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

What sort of deal does DigiHom get at Game Stop?

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

They get payed for keeping their games out of their stores. That’s how they raised the funds for the lawsuit.

alextulu
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alextulu

“What people think, and correctly so, is that Gamestop keeps 100% of the money it gets from the sale of a second hand game.”

Did you actually read, what I said in my comment:

“Just open their website, look at the price of a trade-in, and then look at the price of a used copy of the same game.

The difference is the revenue for that used game.”

alextulu
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alextulu

Jim Sterling said in the video, that Gamestop keeps all of the money from used games.

BAH!
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BAH!

So here’s a question:

Is the paltry markup unique to Gamestop, or are all retailers affected by it? My local Wal-Mart Supercenter, for example, doesn’t deal heavily in used software or hardware, meaning they expect to make profit from new sales. But if the profit they make is so small, I can’t imagine why they’d bother.

GloatingSwine
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GloatingSwine
Big supermarkets don’t care that their margin is pretty low on games because stuff like games is gravy to them, you’re in the shop to buy your weekly load of bogroll and oven chips or whatever and a stand of games is relatively light on floor and warehouse space for that margin compared to things like toilet roll. (Price per square foot of space given to stock is a big thing for big box stores. I work in support for a major electricals retailer, and our best profit mover for ages was batteries because the markup per foot of warehouse… Read more »
Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

It’s pretty much the same in Game in the UK.

guy smiley
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guy smiley

If I had to guess, I’d say their games section has a low enough percentage of their total shelf/floorspace and operating costs, that they can eat the low profit margin. This may possibly be an accurate reflection of their situation, who knows really?

Gamestop and other purely games based retailers, however, have that low profit margin for 100% of their wares, so it’s more serious a problem for their business overall.

Michael Prymula
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I want to see Jim do that Nintendo bashing episode he was hinting at, last time I was in Gamestop the clerks were talking about how they had already three people cancel their Switch pre-orders, so yeah things are not looking good for Nintendo so far, I swear it feels like they do stupid shit on purpose sometimes.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Honestly I didn’t see any hinting from Jim.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

That really doesn’t mean much though as there are many reasons these people could have cancelled their pre-orders. Gamestop itself being a very probable factor.

Michael Prymula
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Nah I think it’s far more likely people were wary about the Switch after hearing all the stupid decisions Nintendo made with it. Or it’s because Nintendo once again fucked up with their shipment(Jim tweeted about that yesterday)

plus I don’t recall this ever happening with any other consoles at Gamestop.

Space Blizzard
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Space Blizzard

I don’t think a personal anecdote about how three people cancelled their pre-orders means a whole lot. Reports from other retailers are that pre-orders are selling out very quickly, which could potentially be a good sign depending on how many pre-order units they actually have.

Feo Takahari
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Feo Takahari

I work at a shoe store that does this kind of stuff, naming and shaming you in a company-wide email if you don’t sell enough orthotics. My boss claims he saw the same sort of thing at Bed, Bath, and Beyond, with punishments for not selling enough body lotion. He thinks this kind of stuff is normal and to be expected. I think it’s freaking nuts.

HerbertGW
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HerbertGW

Similar schemes exist in the UK in places like Sainsburys, Tesco, Asda, Homebase, Wickes, the list is almost endless. Any store that operates a store card, or that sells extended warranties will have the exact same bullshit going on.

Having worked for ALL the above named companies, I can personally attest that every single person, from the manager of the store all the way up to the CEO’s is fully aware of, and in complete agreement with, any and all “Threats or incentives” levied against ordinary staff members.

Simon
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Simon

That sort of bullshit is bullying and harassment and there are laws about it. If you feel particularly aggrieved, hurt or injured by such behaviour you should go to a compensation layer. They can represent you with minimal up-front payment and take payment from the payout, which is worth it just to fuck over the employer.

I’ve been fucked over (seriously) many times before and wish I’d stood up for myself more in the past because I’m still out of work as a result.

BiG_bEn523
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BiG_bEn523
As someone who has worked in retail, I can attest to that. Unfortunately, retail, like politics, the AAA game industry in general, ect. is extremely cut throat. Some of today’s biggest brick and mortar retail stores, serving such stuff as furniture, clothing, automobiles, and a few others I can’t put my finger on at the moment, make some of the most unrealistic demands from their sales associates, to the point where bullying, back stabbing and, from my last gig from 15 years ago, workplace violence reared it’s ugly head. In all honestly, it takes a certain type of individual to… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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Personally I don’t buy into the whole “used games are EEEEEVIL” bullshit, plus not everyone is rich enough to buy every single game digitally like you are.

supercrotchinator
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supercrotchinator

Uh, games are cheaper when bought digitally, dude. Have you never heard of Steam sales? When you don’t have to produce a physical product or maintain a brick and mortar storefront, you dramatically reduce overhead. It’s just common sense.

🌊Parasol Dimensions ☔
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🌊Parasol Dimensions ☔
This isn’t necessarily true. If you keep up with the lot, you’d see that heavy sales exist with all forms. The good thing about physical products unlike digital is that they *must* sell. Games that are overstocked can easily be acquired in the $2- 8 range after a few years if you look in the right places and keep up with store clearance sales (not that different than waiting for a heavy flash sale) Nintendo, Atlus, and low stock games are almost always definitely cheaper digital, but some are cheaper directly from physical storefronts (sometimes physical games require weird free… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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I prefer to play my games on consoles(I don’t have a good enough graphics card to be able to run the latest AAA games on my PC, and I don’t have hundreds of dollars to blow on a new one) so Steam sales are not really an option for me(besides I can’t wait that long anyways).

So no it’s not “common sense” fool, you can’t just assume that EVERY gamer prefers to buy games on Steam, that’s just not true, bit arrogant to assume that really.

Gaealiege
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Gaealiege

Let’s say there’s a rare demographic that aren’t wealthy enough to buy all games new AND …get this…don’t live in a city, so they don’t have an internet connection worth a shit.

Let’s go even crazier. Let’s say they’re not wealthy enough to afford them, do live in a city, but don’t support Digital Rights Management software.

Where do those people get their cheap games?

(Also, most digital games are the exact same price as a physical copy at release and for several months afterward.)

supercrotchinator
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supercrotchinator

So you’re saying any digital purchase equals Digital Rights Management? That’s a pretty broad definition.
Also, though I do accept that lots of people don’t have good internet connections, you need to accept that lots of people who don’t live in cities have excellent Internet connections. Myself, for one.
And, since I’m poor myself, yes I wait til games get cheaper before buying them. Unlike physical copies, you can pick up games for 5% of their original cost if you wait long enough. I’ve saved enough on games to make back my original investment on my gaming PC.

Gaealiege
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Gaealiege
Steam uses DRM software. I’m not saying that any digital purchase uses such draconic and uselessly overbearing “security”, but Steam most definitely does. If by “I don’t live in a city” you mean “I live in a suburb 15 minutes outside of a city” then, sure. The overwhelming majority of rural areas (where poverty is prevalent) do not have access to anything like a good connection. The area I grew up in was the wealthiest farming county in Indiana. There is no town within that county where you can get anything above very bad satellite internet. It’s simply not an… Read more »
supercrotchinator
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supercrotchinator

I would say that Steam is DRM done *right*, but I understand that that some people are against it in any form.

If you’re playing a lot of multiplayer games, wouldn’t you need a good internet connection anyway?

Gaealiege
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Gaealiege

Aye, I’m against DRM entirely, myself.

Er, well, I meant what if their main interest was in multiplayer games. You’re right though, country people would be double fucked. No internet and basically no sales!

Michael Prymula
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Digital games may be the same price, but I can’t exactly trade in used games towards digital games now can I? I have not paid full price for a new release for as long as I can remember, as i’ve always had used games to trade in for store credit.

Those people generally get their cheap games either online or at stores.

George
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I switched over to digital as well but the main reason I did was because I”m no longer interested in the AAA space. I found that most of the interesting stuff seems to be happening in the indi space.

Michael Prymula
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I still love me some AAA games, not really big on indie stuff to be honest.

George
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I wasn’t either for longest time. But over the last 2 years I just find that more experimental things are in the indi space. Some are horrible failures but others are intriguing.

Michael Prymula
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Most indie games just don’t do much for me(with the occasional rare exception like Dex), they don’t satisfy me the same way that modest or big-budget titles do.

Nico
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Nico

Damn , I remember thinking there was something fishy about the fact that my local GS did not carry new games stock on release date. Truth of the matter is I have not purchased a game on a brick and mortar store in more than 4 years just because of the convenience of buying digital or trough Amazon. This is coming from someone who used to visit GS just for the gamery ambience (GS was the ONLY place in my country were you could find fellow gamers), sadly GS closed down here last year. Hope this shit gets sorted out.

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

As for the Digital Homicide lawsuit, I’ll echo what TB said during the Arbitrary Awards:

“Good riddance.”

Will113
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Well business is evil and stupid, nothing new there. Mostly I go to these shops to buy secondhand games.

FireroseNekowolf
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Also, off-topic, for Jim if you read this (or anyone else who knows).

The Fidget Cube, I just watched the video on it. How durable does it feel? Like does it feel like it’s pretty tough? I’m thinking of getting one myself now.

Anthony Pace
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I ordered one the other day. Figure it’ll help me avoid getting distracted and procrastinating which I have a real problem with.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

Yeah – pretty sturdy. You probably couldn’t run over it, but anything short of that’d fine.

Some Guy In A Waistcoat
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Kinda interested in the answers to that question myself. Inquiring minds want to know!

Some Guy In A Waistcoat
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On another note, the more I see of that Skylight Freerange game in Jim’s videos, the more familiar it feels to me. The weirdly spaced maps with huge spaces, the dialogue, even the character design… I kept feeling like I’d seen or played it before.

Turns out, it’s the same developer behind The Demon Rush – “so bad it’s good” LP staple since 2008.

FireroseNekowolf
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May I try my hand at an analogy? *ahem*

Imagine a tribe of half-orcs. They all need to work together to survive as a tribe in their harsh, cruel world. However! One side of the tribe wants to kill those who are “too human.” The other side of the tribe wants to kill those who are “too orc.”

And what happens is intra-tribe political strife that threatens to destroy it all because the two sides have to demonstrate through power who has the bigger fucking dick, because “reasons.”

Michael Prymula
Member

That’s a very interesting analogy.

Cinebeast
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Well, shit. I just got hired at GameStop a month ago, and I’ve visited a couple of times since then to begin my training. It’s my first job. Honestly feeling kind of worried now.

GMBigKev
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It really all depends on your immediate management. My Assistant Manager was a great guy who was very easy-going about the whole thing and very easy to work with. My Manager and District Manager were both assholes who I’m certain were sleeping with each other, but they largely stayed out of our business. It was a good time, I would’ve liked to have stayed on, but I had to go to college.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

Good luck!

Miles Saintborough
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Miles Saintborough

Just do your best and get a feel for the place. Not everyone’s first job is going to be a good one, but you gotta build up that experience yo.

Michael Prymula
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Yeah my first job was as a bagger at Jewel-Osco(local supermarket chain) and let me tell you if worked there, you’d be begging to work at Gamestop instead, some of the managers were so fucking incompetent at times that I felt like I knew more then they did, and some of my co-workers were racist assholes who thought all Muslims were terrorists(and they said those things out loud while working and some of our customers happened to be Muslim, those idiots were lucky they were not overheard saying that shit), needless to say I was very happy to leave that… Read more »
Gaealiege
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Gaealiege

Jewel-Osco. Now you’re telling me that you’re from the Midwest too, Diamond?! Indiana perhaps?

Michael Prymula
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Illinois actually. I’m really glad I don’t live in Indiana because of Mike Pence’s stupid religious freedom bill(though it would be fun to troll those homophobic morons at Diesel-tech and Memories Pizza)

Gaealiege
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Gaealiege

I lived the majority of my life in Indiana and it is indeed an embarrassment. Mike Pence brings shame to the entire state.

Michael Prymula
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I went on vacation there with my parents once as a kid and it was OK then. Have you ever been to Illinois?

Gaealiege
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Gaealiege

Absolutely. I lived right on the state border of Indiana and Illinois, so going into Illinois was a typical weekend screwaround for me and my friends.

I grew up in Warren County, so we’d typically go into Danville or Champaign-Urbana to screw about. I have many fond memories of Illinois. It’s where I first got into Magic: The Gathering and where my first experiences with arcades took place.

Michael Prymula
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I live in Lake County myself(Zion to be more precise) I used to play Magic myself in high school(and Yu-Gi-Oh) but haven’t played it in years, though I am tempted to buy one of the Magic video games.

Gaealiege
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Gaealiege

Ah, you’re way up there. When I attended undergraduate school, I was kind of nearby. I went o Valparaiso University in Valparaiso, Indiana. I spent a decent chunk of time in Chicago during those years.

The area I grew up in was mostly rural. It would be a 40 minute drive to get to anything resembling a city.

Miles Saintborough
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Miles Saintborough

My first job was a supermarket chain as well. We gone through at least 5 different store managers in the span of 2 years. One of them I hated so much I was on the verge of quitting. Luckily I toughed it out and he left. The next manager was really awesome and was helpful to me when I needed assistance. Too bad the chain went under. The new supermarket chain that took over got rid of all the unionized workers and they got rid of vacation time. Luckily I had quit before the switch.

Michael Prymula
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I actually was part of a union at Jewel-Osco, but they had so little power it barely evenmattered, I heard many older workers complaining on their lunch break about how the union leaders caved so easily and lost a lot of power, and I heard one employee tell a horror story about she was threatened to be fired unless she agreed to do certain things, and the union was unable to do a damn thing to help her. That was one of the major turning points that led to me quitting that job, that and one of the managers bitching… Read more »
Miles Saintborough
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Miles Saintborough

Geez, what shit you gone through. You’re quite the trooper. I worked in the bakery department at my store and other than some bullshit here and there, it wasn’t too bad and I was friends with the guys at the dairy and deli departments. I actually kind of miss the place since those guys made it tolerable.

If I couldn’t come in, I’d call out and they’d understand at least.

Michael Prymula
Member

I do occasionally go to that Jewel if I want to buy something for myself and usually the managers who I got along with will greet me and i’ll greet them back.

Going through everything I did is part of the reason why i’m very hesitant about talking shit about Gamestop as a whole, because I can’t imagine it being a worse retail experience then what I went through.

Michael Prymula
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To be entirely fair not all of the people at Jewel were bad, some of the managers were OK(there were a few young female managers who I got along with really well, they never really gave me shit and they were always nice and helpful to me, they really kept me sane during my time there) and most of my co-workers were decent people, and I actually didn’t have too many bad customers experiences, most of them were totally fine and reasonable(aside from occasionally getting asked to re-bag something, customers never really got difficult with me), but some of my… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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Yeah I really regretted ever applying for that job, only good thing about was that it helped me save up enough money to buy a PS3, PS4 and Xbox One(since I was and still am living with my parents, bills were not really an issue). I got that job through an employment agency in my state, for my training I worked eight weeks at a Marshalls/Homegoods store, that job was a lot better(only thing about that sucked was having to work at 8 in the morning, I am absolutely not a morning person so I always dreaded having to start… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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Don’t be too worried, not every store is evil incarnate. Good luck to you and hopefully your District Manager is not a total douchebag. I’ll say that i’d much rather work at Gamestop then work at Jewel-Osco(local midwest supermarket chain), now there’s a job I would not wish on anyone.

Antigonius
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Antigonius

In my country we don’t have GameStop…I don’t think that my town has a legal gamestore at all, come to think of, it…it wouldn’t survive here.

Michael Prymula
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What country do you live in?

Antigonius
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Antigonius

Ukraine

Nitrium
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I think Ukraine, if memory serves.

Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

Greed is after all what kept MP3s from being a thing you could buy for a very long time. Simply because every party involved wanted 100% of the money and to hell with anyone else involved. It was pretty much gridlock that pushed that market back by half a decade or so.

twigcollins
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twigcollins

The Gamestops I’ve been to have always been full of really nice employees, so I’m sad to hear they’re being treated this way by corporate.

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

Keep in mind, what is true in one area is not true in another. Something you have to keep in mind when you consider globalization.

I’m happy to report that the few GameStops in my area are fine. I just don’t go there because I dislike the browsing experience they offer. Even when I get physical copies of games, I get them via Amazon.

Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

You can pretty much assume that anyone working retail is getting shafted one way or the other. You would be surprised how many situations are a lose-lose for retail workers.

Michael Prymula
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Same here, this story actually had the opposite effect on me-it makes me want to support my local GS store even more, because who knows what could happen if I stopped going to the store? I have no idea if that would result in an employee getting fired or not, so because of that I want to continue doing business there. Besides the employees always treat me well, so I see no sense in punishing them just because a few district managers are being huge cockheads.

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

Yep. Reward good behavior.

George
Member

You make a very interesting point. In Canada we have EB which is the same company as gamestop, if I’m not mistaken. But over the last few years I’ve noticed an increase in the number of times they push preorders. Not rudely or anything but it’s been an upswing.

Michael Prymula
Member

Funny, it’s actually been the opposite for me, my local GS used to try and occasionally ask me about pre-orders, but for the past six years or so they don’t really do that much anymore.

GMBigKev
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Oh everything about this is so true. I used to work at Gamestop before college, and when I worked there I was pretty much told constantly that I needed to have certain numbers of subscriptions, pre-orders, and sales of traded-in titles. We didn’t keep track of money at the time, it was exact numbers. (As a side-note, my assistant manager and I had the record for the most pre-orders and subscriptions in a single day – which held for the entirety of that store’s life.) But yea, everything he said, about the backhandedness of the district / regional managers, the… Read more »
Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

That last bit always irritated me about GS. Going to buy a “new game” and having them hand me an opened box.

GMBigKev
Member

Unfortunately since floor space is at a premium in most Gamestop locations, they can’t really provide the locked cabinets and theft detection systems that other stores can, so any floor copies need to be empty or people will up and take them. It sucks that if you buy a niche title with one or two copies, you’d likely have to get a copy where they had to take the disc out of the jacket.

More popular games, however, usually we got enough that most people got an unsealed copy.

Michael Prymula
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Strange, every time i’ve bought a new game there it’s always been sealed.

Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

To some degree of fairness I tend not to buy games that they would be receiving decent sized shipments of with anticipation of generous walk in sales. Most of what I’m interested in are rather niche titles that the store likely only received one or two copies of.

I want to say the last one was like Disgaea 1 for the PSP. Which also gives you a fairly decent idea of the last time I was in a Gamestop 😛

Moon1337
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Moon1337

The niche titles are the best to go in for. When I bought Agarest War 1 the employee took the case, which was a sealed special edition, and had no idea what it was. Not one of the employees had heard of it and took like 5 minutes to check out since they were reading everything on the box seeing if they would want to pick up a copy themselves. That and they all wanted me to open it to see the mousepad with boobs that was part of the SE bundle 😛

Michael Prymula
Member

As long as the games work properly, I honestly don’t really give a shit if they are “new” or not.

prh99
Guest
prh99

Happy to say I’ve never set foot in a GameStop, and don’t intend to start. Especially in a world where Amazon, Newegg etc are things.

Jack Trevor
Member
Jack Trevor

Your soul is safe by stepping in a GameStop.

It’s just a boring shopping experience.

NotoriousBOB
Member
NotoriousBOB

You say that proudly as if Amazon isn’t a shitty monolithic entity.

InfamousDS
Member
InfamousDS

You only know the half of it…

Michael Prymula
Member

Happy to say that I have and will continue to do so.

prh99
Guest
prh99

Be my guest. I just don’t want to do business with what I have for awhile considered to be a shady retailer, and when I can conduct the same transactions else with any hassle.

Michael Prymula
Member

The clerks at my never give me any hassle, quite the opposite in fact, they were then willing to give me a refund for that piece of shit Federation Force.

Fallen Prime
Member
Fallen Prime

May I ask what made you willing at last to openly and directly address the Romine case, Jim?

ENAY
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ENAY

Search Leonard French on youtube. He goes through all of Jim Sterling’s case.

prh99
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prh99

I don’t know but judging by what I’ve seen of the last few filings in the case I’d guess cause it’s almost over. The judge gave Romine a chance to refill an amended complaint that had to meet specific conditions (since Digi Hom is an LLC he has to file on behalf of the company not personally etc etc), and he doesn’t appear to have done it, I can’t imagine the judge will be amused . He just goes on confusing negative opinion with defamation this regarding Micro Strategic Game Designs.

BAH!
Member
BAH!

From what I saw, he may have amended the complaint enough to comply with the request. I don’t think the suit will get much further either way, but I think he’s managed that much, at least.

Anthony Pace
Member

Having watched the Leonard French video, which admittedly is just snippets, it seems like he just replaced DH with Micro Strategic Designs. A lot of it seems like he’s attempting to demonstrate that the company and person are one and the same since most of the supposed defamatory acts/statements are directed at the companies rather than the people themselves. It’s still going nowhere though.

InfamousDS
Member
InfamousDS

At best he bought himself some time, since the judge now has to review this new change for validity. I really don’t see how the changes are in compliance, since he is still saying Jim said mean things about my company.

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