The Jimquisition: Delayed Reaction

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Well here we are again. No Man’s Sky isn’t even cold yet and we’ve got Final Fantasy XV filling in with the unreal hype and ludicrous “fan” outrage.

Yet more messengers have been shot as a delay news story became another example of what happens when hype culture rots people’s brains away.

Fuzzy Barbarian
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Fuzzy Barbarian

Can all the idiots who were saying “my sources tell me he’s lying!” on Reddit get downvoted into oblivion now? Because, ironically, THEIR sources, if they even exist, should be called into question now.

Jiryn
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Jiryn
Sadly, that’s the problem with modern zealot or just fanboy culture. Hell I 36, and I am curious as to what the hell happened to my generation and every subsequent generation after. Shit you not, over the weekend I took someone to lunch. He wasn’t ready to order yet, but I was and the waitress was at the table so to give him time and be polite, I ordered. Because I ordered BEFORE he was ready, he literally ran out to the car crying. He came back 20-30minutes later after the food had been served, and began to me. “Didn’t… Read more »
Anton
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Anton

That sounds a bit like an antisocial disorder.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

We sadly see the same thing in many modern people everywhere. Especially when they lash out at websites for posting news, information, previews, or reviews they don’t agree with. I see it much in the same vein.

Stormbringer
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I think most people are antisocial. What you call a disorder is hard to say. It’s like saying snowflakes are disordered.

(Pretending to not be antisocial is sure sign of deep seated antisocial tendencies.)

Anton
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Anton

Well, this specific person sounds like he has great difficulty coping with a fairly normal social situation. That’s why I brought up the possibility of a disorder.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

You may have a very good point, I can cite some reasons but he is very antisocial, reclusive, and introverted.
To the point that his “Hanging out” is coming over, and locking himself in a spare room to game on devices he brought over.

BAH!
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BAH!

I was thinking the same thing. Even considering the pervading culture, the guy’s behavior is… kind of extreme. Like, I know someone similar to that, though not quite as offensively obnoxious; and it’s hard to say whether it’s simply how she was raised, or if it’s actually some kind of mental issue. Or a combination of both?

Anton
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Anton

Yeah, these things are tricky. And there are always “normal” (by DSM standards) people who will act strangely, while simultaneously there are plenty of people with mental/social disorders who are perfectly well adjusted.

So I guess it’s wrong on my part to assume.

BAH!
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BAH!

Well, you know what happens when you assume…

Stormbringer
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Yeah, I wasn’t necessarily replying to anything in particular. It almost seemed like the person in the story wasn’t aware that their behavior was unusual. It may be normal for them, especially if their family doesn’t relate that it’s abnormal, or doesn’t think of it as normal. In my experience people are fabulously dysfunctional. There’s no real “normal.” There used to be standards set by television. But from what I can tell television shows are all now reality-television shows about people who are famous for their particular brand of dysfunctionality, and familial dysfunction was always red meat for television sitcoms… Read more »
ATBro
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ATBro
That’s the pits to be sure, but to be a little more levelheaded about this type of thing, I would say that that is anecdotal and not indicative of more rational behavior. This is at the heart of the issue though, that we take this kind of bad behavior and apply it to the generation. The vast majority of the people in our generation (I’m also 36) are not actually like this, but because we see people like that reported on a few times a day, that’s all that we think is out there even though for every one shitty… Read more »
Jiryn
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Jiryn

That’s very true, the vocal minority, or would it be the flamboyant or visible minority in the case? Get more attention than the quiet, less visible majority because their actions are so easily noticable, that it’s remembered more than all the good the rest do.

Nathan Aldana
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Nathan Aldana

I’ve seen people my age who think treating the waitresses like servants who they can piss on liberally with threats of mediocre tips is totally find and dandy, which is a personal annoyance of mine when I go out to eat. (am 32, myself)

Jiryn
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Jiryn
Having grown up with many friends working in the service industry, I’ve seen and heard so many tales. Though the one that always stuck with me was one that happened to my Aunt, or at the very least was told by her. The server in question had a table where at the beginning of the meal, the man put a stack of quarters on the table. For everything he perceived as an infraction of her duty of tending his needs, he’d very visible remove quarters from the stack. Whatever was left at the end of the meal was her tip,… Read more »
Nathan Aldana
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Nathan Aldana

Yeah. funny story. I remember reading a blog about a california restauraunt where they got rid of tips and simply added the “tip” onto the bill. Oddly, the only people who got angry were the people who wanted to use tips to bludgeon servers with repeatedly. Which i think says something about the sort of person who wants to “tip according to service”

also, that guy sounds like a real asshole.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Yep, it’s a heavy handed way of saying “Get Good” instead of giving waitresses real wages.
Even worse, many restaurant margin of income are so small now a days, that a real wage may actually hurt their profit.

Nathan Aldana
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Nathan Aldana

Its sort of the hilarious endgame of when you’re shotsighted enough to decide to use tips as a cost cutting measure instead of an actual reward for good service. because now its economically impossible for some restauraunts to drop tips without imploding.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Wasn’t it done during the depression to keep restaurants and services open, but never abolished?

Nathan Aldana
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Nathan Aldana

originally, yeah. But then basically at some point restauraunts seemed to have decided that it was a great way to make more money if they just pretended it was always that way and took advantage of old societal beliefs about it being a reward for good service to browbeat down any complaints.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Yep, and then it became legalized when they allowed servers wages to be lower than the minimum wage because they were supplemented with tips.
Sadly, GOOD servers actually fight against the idea of having regulated wages because they can make hundreds or more in a night.
Quite a few don’t even report a good portion of their tips on their taxes.

Anton
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Anton

On the (admittedly rare) flip side, I have dealt with some incredibly rude waiters. I do tip 20 percent 99% of the time, but I would like to reserve the right to maybe knock it down to ten if my food gets thrown at me (yes, that happened).

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Well, I’ve seen the industry turn many people racist, or at the very least profiling.
I’ve seen friends and other workers in the industry argue over who gets a table just because the table was made up entirely of black people, who are stereo typically bad tippers.
Though I don’t know of this is based on the fact they are black, or the way they present themselves when they come it.

Huttj509
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Huttj509

A friend of mine used to waitress. Her comment was “wait staff will turn you into a horrible person. It will make you racist, it will make you sexist, it will make you judgmental, because that’s where your salary comes from. I’m really glad I left, and I like myself more now.”

Jiryn
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Jiryn

I’d say income not salary, but you’re right.
Like law enforcement, you begin to instinctively profile and watch people to figure out who you will get the biggest tip.

Anton
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Anton

Most of my friends who at some point worked in the service industry have snapped and gone off looking for other jobs. I don’t blame them.

Nathan Aldana
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Nathan Aldana

I worked in part of the service industry at one point answering phones for businesses after hours.

it took about 2 years before I ended up out of that job because repeated frustration at terrible human beings demanding impossible shit out of the workers I was answering calls for drove me to always sound angry on the phone.

Anton
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Anton

Yeah, people are terrible.

The most common complaint I heard was that people would expect waiters to remember what they had the day before (or week, or month). They would just walk in and ask for “the usual”, and if the server didn’t remember what that was, they would blow up. Who does that?

Nathan Aldana
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Nathan Aldana

The same sort of person who when informed that the workers for a cooling repair company have 6 other jobs ahead of them, most for elderly people who might likely get very sick without AC during a heat wave, instead comes on the phone a third time to chew me (and them) out for how important all the meat at his bar was in the cooler instead of sending an employee or two to go buy some ice.

Stormbringer
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That’s a hilarious mental picture you painted. Sorry, an upvote wouldn’t suffice.

Anton
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Anton

…did you picture them literally blowing up?

Stormbringer
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🙂 No, I just pictured a wonderfully blissful person walking in and saying, “I’ll have the usual!” and to that the bartender is like: “uh, have we met??” And the friendly fellow is like, “yeah, I was in here only yesterday!” (And in their head they are thinking, “isn’t this how this worked on television.” Or something like that.)

Jiryn
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Jiryn

The moment they think someone is beneath them, that is when their true nature comes out.

Stormbringer
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The brain is infinitely plastic it seems. There’s literally no scenario anyone can come up with that no one of us has ever done before. It’s Lovecraftian scary. If you dwell on it too long you’ll go nuts.

(It’s almost like a computer that if you spill something on it, you flip a switch (or bit) and it just does random preposterous shit.)

diamond
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diamond

Does that guy have mental issues or something? Cause I went to a high school for special needs kids, and that behavior sounds awfully similar to that of some of my classmates.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Honestly, I don’t know.
I’ve known him for 3yrs now and he’s always done stupid crap like this, even though he seems “Well Adjusted” when out in public, and even holds a job, and had his own apartment.
The waitress was trying to not crack up the entire time this was happening when he initially left.

Anton
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Anton

Something I’ve always wanted, is for the anonymity aspect of the online community to go away. Imagine if every inane statement those trolls ever made had their real name next to it; maybe some of them would think twice about posting.

galactix100
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galactix100

I doubt any of them are self aware enough to fucking care.

Anton
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Anton

Well, at least we could shame them for it.

galactix100
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galactix100

I’ve better things to do than argue with what are essentially piles of rabid gibbering flesh.

Anton
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Anton

Well, I’m here like five hours a day, so I guess I don’t XD

Stormbringer
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Or just their real age. I’d settle for that in a heartbeat. Let’s do it to protect the children from pedophiles.

Harzzach SeniorGamer
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Harzzach SeniorGamer

Anonymity does not work as “regulator”, as a valve to prevent people posting shit. Just look at Facebook, where ENOUGH people with verifiable accounts utter THE most stupidest shit you can even think of.

But loosing anonymity is the pathway to the loss of free speech. You will gain nothing from a small percentage of people who might learn to keep thier mouths shut, when everyone with just a different opinion can be object to harrassment and prosecution, because he is easily identifiable.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

The problem is that people seem to think because of the anonymity, they are not accountable for their actions online.

NeilS52
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NeilS52
I don’t even get why anyone would be mad at this delay, but then again I say this as someone who is happy about it because this delay works in my favor. I have one big game a month picked out from now to November. Tomorrow Inside finally comes out for PS4, Semptember has the Bioshock trilogy remastered(I have never played any of them so it’s a good deal for me), In October the chains of exclusivity comes off of Rise of the Tomb Raider making t available on PS4 finally and thanks to the delay Final Fantasy XV in… Read more »
diamond
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diamond

I’ve got Re-Core and Destiny Rise of Iron in September, Gears of War 4, Mafia 3 and Titanfall 2 in October, then Infinite Warfare and Watch Dogs 2 in November, then Dead Rising 4 and Gravity Rush 2 in December.

SamJ
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SamJ

I don’t even understand how these people mad at the delay can afford to buy all the upcoming video games coming out AND even play them all. At this point, I think it’s greed and narcissism driving these crazy people.

NeilS52
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NeilS52

Well it seems like childish behavior so maybe they are children whos parents are rich and they buy all their games which would imply that they are spoiled and what better way to show how spoiled you are by complaining about a game delay bonus points for the delay being a measly two months. Two months is so little time I wonder what Square Enix could possibly accomplish in that time.

SamJ
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SamJ

You can do a lot in 2 months, if the game’s already finished. You can QA test the game, fix all the bugs, minimize the day 1 patch and Square Enix can cut out the parts that they think would make the best DLC.

galactix100
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galactix100

I get that it’s frustrating when a game you’re excited for is delayed or whatever, it happens to all of us but fucking hell people need to grow up.

SamJ
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SamJ

Jim, please make a Fuckotaku News segment. I don’t even have anything against Kotaku. I just think it would be hilarious to see what other people would think about it.

Anton
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Anton

People would take it seriously and run with it.

RaikuNH
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RaikuNH

Not if he does stuff like “Kotaku refuses to report on boglins” or “Kotaku trying to destroy the pogo market.”

Anton
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Anton

You’re assuming that people are going to read past the first word, which, presumably, would be “fuckotaku”

RaikuNH
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RaikuNH

I would.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Sarcasm and parody is an art lost in modern society

Anton
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Anton

I think it’s only gotten better. I find it hilarious when someone starts defending some backwards bullshit I posted just to be sarcastic.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

That’s true, but I’ve seen many people use the ONION as a source or citation to back up their own claims.
Especially in political arguments.

Anton
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Anton

Ok, that is pretty sad.

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP

…Kotaku still exists?

Stormbringer
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Fuck-a-Cockatoo?

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Does For Honor have a set launch date?

Justin
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Justin

February 14

galactix100
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galactix100

February 2017 I think.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

I think you mean April 2017

BAH!
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BAH!

WHO ARE YOUR SOURCES YOU FUCKING LIAR?!

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

And seriously, it’s a fucking delay. I would get someone get moderately frustrated at rumors of cancelation (But no to the point of harassing the people reporting!) but a two month delay of a game that’s been through development hell for almost a decade!? Maybe more, I even lost count at this point!

Jesus, that’s just repulsive. Literally repulsive behavior. If you are one of the people who were seriously wishing people get fired for doing their job, then… I don’t know, don’t approach me, is what I’m saying.

Martijn Fiering
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Martijn Fiering

Remember when people used to spam: “Hey it gives them more time to iron out the bugs!” incessantly? Now it’s become the complete opposite.

I mean, it’s Final Fantasy so I guess I can understand. There are only one or two of them so there’s nothing else to play while they wait for their next dosage of JRPG dr- gameplay.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

… But it does give them more time. Sometimes, when the publisher lets them.

Martijn Fiering
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Martijn Fiering

Yes, I know. I meant the complete opposite as in what people are shouting. 🙂 I can see how that confused you. My bad.

Stormbringer
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I hope the first six games and Gameboy games etc don’t count to this new breed of FF fan! I just hope to god there’s no overlap. That would be chimeric fly-teleportation-accident beast to behold.

ATBro
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ATBro

This is why Reddit, Gaf and Twitter and other internet forum like that are basically a septic tank ready to catch and hold in it’s loving embrace, all of the little shits dropped from the world of fandom’s stankin ass, and why anyone with and ounce of sense and self respect will avoid those places like the plague. They offer little of real value and only contribute to The Dumbening of society.

Sharadufobash
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Sharadufobash
The internet unleashed the world’s stupidity on itself. This is what people sound like when you don’t have fear that face-to-face interaction creates. You can hear the hatred and selfishness that lies in the heart of everyone, and all that ever held it back before was the fear of consequences. Everyone else is terrible, annoying and stupid, whereas the person everyone sees themselves as is kind, decent, and most hilariously of all, the very essence of LOGIC! Everyone is obsessed with how logical they are. That’s just the internet. Every day I’ll come across some opinion that annoys me and… Read more »
ATBro
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ATBro

I don’t think it’s the fear of consequences that stopped this stuff before. No one thinks about consequences when they do anything. The reason we didn’t hear this kind of dubiousness was because people could only yell so loud. If you say something, it’s gone in the next second, but write it on a reddit forum and it’s there seemingly for eternity.

Sharadufobash
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Sharadufobash

I disagree. There’s nothing more ephemeral than a comment, even if it is held on a server somewhere, who the hell will look at it later.

ATBro
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ATBro

Not if it is in a thread titled “fuck this guy reporting a delay” that has 100 “people(?)” sitting in a giant circle jerk. One comment can really make the rounds that way.

Stormbringer
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Historians. Time travelers. Google Labs’ AI experiments.

Stormbringer
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My god he’s right! It’s Pandora’s Box. Cut the wires! Oh shit, it’s in the air. Kill it with fire!

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP

Exterminatus would work.
Exterminatus always works.
(don’t say otherwise within earshot of the inquisitors, or your planet’s up next on the block)

Sharadufobash
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Sharadufobash

“Has this world been tainted by chaos?”

“No. Worse. They’ve developed the internet.”

“Emperor save us! EXTERMINATUS NOW!”

BrentD15
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BrentD15

*Exterminatus activates*
“…fuckin’ Heretics!!!”

Stormbringer
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I don’t get the reference… but lo, the last wriggling thing at the very bottom of the box, it was a fat grub, and we looked upon it, and called it hope. Thank God for Hope.

TheGreenGarden
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TheGreenGarden

Interesting video though what you say can potentially be used against the wrong people. In my experience, the people you are talking about either won’t listen or do listen, but think they aren’t the problem and then treat people they don’t like as the problem.

This is something I felt first hand when I’m told to stop whining or caring about LGBTQ+ characters in fiction or other issues. The worst was on Battle.Net when I was sent hate and vile when I asked if they would ever considering including a Gender fluid character into the game.

09philj
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09philj

Clearly you’re an entitled SJW millenial.

The extent to which some people are terrified that other people might live their lives in a different way will never cease to confuse me.

aimei66
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aimei66

I have noticed that sometimes people mistake personal preference for objective fact or strong protest. Got to love the internet.

Stormbringer
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I’ve noticed that a lot of people–maybe most people–can’t tell the difference between a thought that flits through their head and an “objective fact.” To these their thoughts are fact. It’s marvelous.

SirRichard
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SirRichard
You’re entirely right, but this episode and the last make me think of the same question about the delivery of some parts of these; why bother directly addressing this sort of person, when you know full well they aren’t listening? Beyond doing it for entertainment, I mean. Pointing and laughing at a turd is good fun, but trying to make the turd stop smelling is futile. I expected the XV delay to send people haywire, but christ I didn’t think they were that desperate about it. Being so close to the NMS outrage, I have to wonder if this is… Read more »
Nathan Aldana
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Nathan Aldana

Its the same kind of mania thats existed for the last few years ever since this sort of gamer realized they arent the only voice i the room, and their reaction ever since has been trying to scream loud enough to drown everyone else out,.

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP

To be “”””fair””””, again, FF15 has been a game that’s been in development hell for the better part of a full decade. It wasn’t even a “mainline” FF game to start, it was a part of the clustercrap of “Fabula Nova Crystalis”.
I don’t think at this point anyone’d be shocked that “hardcore fans of the series” passed that snapping point a while ago.

Stormbringer
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Yeah, but for these commentators it’s only been in development for 2 years, because they were born 6 years ago, and had more important things to worry about until they were babes of 4yrs.

(Don’t let their way with words fool you. Kids can be damn precocious at very young ages.)

Gennadios
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Gennadios
“This sort of person” is the one more likely to comment on an article. People who read the article and think to themselves “this is perfectly reasonable” are less likely to leave a comment that the sad shitslits whose life is so empty that the majority of their life’s meaning is in the “next big release.” Unfortunately, these sorts of people are the most visible on the internet. I left one negative Steam review and quickly learned to unsubscribe from comments when posting it. Maybe Journos with thin skin need to learn to disable comments, not much of value will… Read more »
Fuzzy Barbarian
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Fuzzy Barbarian

On another note, I’m glad it was delayed. Reasoning is legit and will make it a better game, Square-Enix didn’t bullshit about it or anything (it’s just the lead designer sitting in what looks like the lobby apologising, then promising a gameplay trailer, which he delivered) and it comes out at a better time for most people anyway.

But oh no, two months. If you knew about this game since its announcement, this is nothing.

MetalShadowChaos
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MetalShadowChaos

Hey, you’re going through with that For Honor delay right? ‘Cos I’d like to be able to play through Persona 5 too and them releasing on the same day is gonna fuck with me. Thanks in advance.

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP

Eh, thank Sony for that. We could have had Persona 5 more than a year ago, if they hadn’t browbeaten Atlus into porting the whole damned thing to the PS4.

ATBro
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ATBro

What?

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP

…does that need explaining?
It was developed for years as a PS3 game.
Sony wanted a PS4 game.
It takes time and resources to port existing materials to a new platform.

Hey, same thing that more or less happened with the hot mess that is FF15. Years in dev hell as a PS3 project, then people were shocked, SHOCKED that they couldn’t take the project, hit the magical “it’s for PS4 now!” button, and get it out earlier.

ATBro
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ATBro
I was more saying “what” about how full of shit that statement was, but if you want to engage, fuck it. Sony doesn’t control other companies. They can put out what they want, where they want. It would make no sense for Atlus to release P5 just on the PS3, even if it was a year or two ago, because the most rapt audience has long since moved on from that platform. They did do that with P4 on the PS2 and the game didn’t sell well. They need to put the game where the players are. FFXV on the… Read more »
Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP
We…just lived thru the launch and anemic first few years of the Xbone and PS4. It just happened. Like, not even long ago. We already knew about MS and Sony going to companies and urging them to move to “next gen” ASAP. You saw the substandard port jobs of some of these games. You saw the rationalizations. The install base of the PS3 was STILL impressive a year ago. There was no reason to not port most of this stuff after a PS360 release, after a thorough retooling, other than “if we don’t do same day mutli-console releases, people will… Read more »
ATBro
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ATBro
On a superficial level, yes there are more PS3s and 360s than PS4s, but that isn’t where the audience is anymore. Considering that the PS4 is, after two and a half years, almost where the PS3 was after 8 years, its safe to say that the most engaged portion of the audience has moved on. Sony didn’t have to “plead” with developers because their sales number spoke for themselves. Not just with how many consoles were being sold, but that there was a high attach rte for software. You may see it as pleading, but realistically it’s more like letting… Read more »
RifleAvenger Sashiro
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RifleAvenger Sashiro

This is a tangent, but PS3 still has the niche of actually having PS1-PS3 games playable on it, if not via disc then by digital store. Until PS4 starts getting these older games ported to its online market, PS3 is the best non-emulator way to enjoy a wide breadth of Playstation games across nearly two decades (though non-emulator PC options are catching up on the biggest titles).

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP
I didn’t say “plead”, I said “urged”. But you’re absolutely right on most everything. However, go look up when the development cycle of Persona 5 started, and when the PS4 port was announced. I admit that maybe using the word “browbeat” in my original post was too strong, but the timeframe still fits for the whole “at that point where companies were being asked to move their big-name projects to next gen” thing. And it still bugs the hell out of me that they COULD have just finished the PS3 version of P5, gotten it out, then at the same… Read more »
Scaper
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Scaper

For some reason, the biggest take-away I got from this is that I think Jim got a haircut recently. It looks really good, man!

ATBro
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ATBro

One upside to the Metal Gear Survive is that we don’t have to shell out $60 to be entertained by Konami. We can just go to the internet, look at what they are doing next, and BAM!.. hours of hilarity.

Martijn Fiering
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Martijn Fiering

I mean, I guess it is kinda funny because #FucKonami.

But watching the slow death of a 29 years old series to fucking zombies, a series that became famous for its originality, is really sad too.

ATBro
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ATBro

Tragedy + time = comedy. Although, this is funny out of the gate and sadder the longer you sit with it.

Unnoticing Senpai
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Unnoticing Senpai

Probably the most consumer friendly thing they’ve done so far.

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP
It’s funny, when Jim said “wait to write your comments”, and he showed the clip from FF15, I was compelled to immediately go down here and write “Hey, what’s that game he’s showing? I didn’t know Ride to Hell: Retribution got a sequel!” (10 years of development and that thing still looks sooooo bad ugh) Serious Mode, tho, at this point, we can only hope that the reality is that it’s NOT as bad as we think. That maybe, for each actual person writing these comments, they have a dozen sockpuppets putting them up elsewhere. Or even better, that some… Read more »
Stormbringer
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I don’t know, reading these comments, I am reminded that when I converse with people, including many people in my own family, many of them seem to have a mutation, where they think something, and for them, just because they thought it, it’s as if their reality shifts; IOW: their mental architecture so-to-speak seems to lack a component that is able to differentiate between the world as it is, and the world as they see it… And how they see it is like quicksilver. It’s fascinating. It’s like how people describe LSD trips. You think it, and that immediately becomes… Read more »
CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

I think it’s called “delusion”.

Stormbringer
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No, you must have self-awareness in order to delude yourself.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Not necessarily. They typically occur as a symptom of a neurological or psychiatric disease.

Stormbringer
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Delusion may have a different sense in a clinical context. One can delude themselves though, and that’s the accepted meaning in neutral context 🙂 Delusion encompasses rationalization, delusions of grandeur, egomania, denial, and lots of things that aren’t necessarily “mental disorders” and I didn’t mean to suggest that people who’s minds function like this are disordered. Their behavior may be more common than not. We don’t talk about it, so it’s perfectly possible that most of us don’t challenge people when they “jump to conclusions.” I find if you challenge them they respond in an almost dream like way. I… Read more »
Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

You know what? This outrage at people relaying possible delays it’s just another facet of a problem I’m noticing more and more in America, which is the misplaced animosity against the press. The ignorant and easily-swayed masses rallying against those who are here to help them in forming their own opinions on things that matter. But instead of doing that, they push back with completely misguided anger.

“This person is bringing me bad news, therefore they’re bad”.

Get your act together, Americans.

Anton
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Anton

Yup, this is the exact same thing as alt-right assholes complaining about “that Jew-run liberal bias media”

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Sorry, I don’t have the right context here. How is what I said like that?

Anton
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Anton

The masses shooting the messengers. In the case of the mainstream news, I frequently see a backlash against the non-Fox networks. The most common things one sees is “liberal agenda”, and “jew media”

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Oh! Ok, I thought you were saying -I- was like that.

Anton
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Anton

Oh, no, no

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Is cool, it’s just hard to discern tone through writing sometimes.

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP

Yeah…it’s not just Americans.
Also, side note, the job of “the press” has traditionally been to just report the news as it is. “Helping form opinions” is not the job of journalists; it’s the job of those who write opinion pieces. (We called them “editorialists”, once upon a time.)

Nathan Aldana
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Nathan Aldana

the problem being, the people running news organizations realized they sell more if they tell people they were right all along. This is pretty much the basis of the US media model as a result.

ATBro
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ATBro

That’s not true at all. Look back to the heyday of journalism, and news outlets not only provided the facts, they also provided the context and relayed why what it was was good or bad. This is why people like Woodward and Bernstein were so important. They told the entirety of the story, not just a dry reading of events.

Stormbringer
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You can still get that. Democracynow (.) org is the obvious source. If you only get an hour of news each day, that’s probably good enough.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

So how can people form opinions about what’s happening… If they don’t know what’s happening.

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP
I want to give you an example. A really recent example, too, then you tell me. So on Sunday at the Olympics, there was a refugee runner who, as he crossed the finish line, made a gesture with his arms that, after a quick internet search on my phone, was identified as a sign of solidarity with political dissidents from where he was from. As the wife and I started clacking on our phones to find out more, we noticed something…all the replays were being quickly scrubbed of ANY footage of that. NBComcast whitewashed it in record time. Any reports… Read more »
Stormbringer
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Is this the Ethiopian? I don’t think they were refugee if so. It’s crazy if the videos on major networks and things were really being edited. That would be a news story in itself.

We have a thriving alternative press in the U.S. these days. It’s almost at the point where you wonder if the commercial/entertainment press has a viable future or not. Especially after a couple generations die out. It’s not that people can’t find the alternative press in the United States. It’s that they don’t want to; the lies are in a way an enabling service to them.

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP

…or it gets so buried in the searches by companies like Google, it takes that extra effort of digging just to find anything. Can’t forget that.
And at this point I’m preeeetty sure the guy’s more or less “officially” a refugee, since from like the minute people started asking him about it, he just straight up said “no, I’m not going back to my country, they will physically kill me for what I have done here today”.

Stormbringer
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The crux of the problem is that things take effort isn’t it. They do obfuscate, but they also provide a service. It’s a poisonous service, but we don’t have laws against injecting poison.

Ultimately the blame falls on the population. And there’s plenty to go around. We have to slowly educate each other. We are too pacified to go lopping off heads … which is the completely rational and reasonable thing to do. But we’re too good to get our hands dirty.

RifleAvenger Sashiro
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RifleAvenger Sashiro
The problem with trying to report “without bias” is that no one is truly without bias, and context is important. Appealing to journalistic objectivity is one of the ways science deniers manage to fight against the scientific community on things from smoking (50 years from being shown to cause cancer and any company losing a court case), to defense spending in the 80’s (Star Wars), to environmental issues (name one, any one), to stuff like GMOs (where the real issue is business practices and patenting genes, but it’s easier to scream “FrankenFood!”). The denial side says “you have to present… Read more »
Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP
Well yah, there’s “bias”, in the sense of “that thing everyone has because we’re human”, and then there’s “holy shit BIAS”. One of the more recent examples I can think of is when journos over at the New York Times more or less came out and said outright that they were actively avoiding reporting on negative Hillary news, and focus down on Trump, because (and this is pretty goddamned important) IN THEIR OPINION, Trump is dangerous and NEEDS to be stopped. That’s not even “reporting” anymore. That’s explicitly taking sides, and manipulating what people get as “news”. Look, I care… Read more »
RifleAvenger Sashiro
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RifleAvenger Sashiro
I can agree with that. I’d say journalism should be the facts flavored slightly by the writer’s opinion (because no one is an objective, omniscient narrator and trying to be that will only make things worse), but not the writer’s opinion sprinkled with the facts that happened to be convenient. I also think that journalism can be, at times, plagued by not having as strong and concrete a list of sources, at least compared to science. This is necessary; journalism gets some of its information from people who would be punished for speaking up, as opposed to science where getting… Read more »
diamond
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diamond

Trump IS dangerous and DOES need to be stopped, that’s not even an opinion, that’s a fucking fact, nobody in their right mind wants him in charge.

Stormbringer
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It’s true, but it’s not an excuse to _not_ report news, if that is in fact what is happening. Either way it’s what Milestone_RP said.

Фролов Денис
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Фролов Денис

Problem is, press isn’t supposed to “help me form my opinion” – becouse it’s a very clever cover for literal brainwashing. Their job is simple – to deliver me information, as unbiased as possible, or at least with clear marker of it being biased.

After seeing my granddad stop talking to my uncle over entire Ukraine-Russia mess, becouse apaprently uncle is “fascist” now – fuck any press that tells people what to think. It’s not their place.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

… How can you form a opinion about something if you don’t know what it is?

Фролов Денис
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Фролов Денис

That’s “providing infrormation” part. On things that happen. Yet it nearly always comes mixed with propaganda. You know the difference between “radical extremist” and “valiant defender”? Becouse both describe very same group of people.

In terms of game industry, do you sense the difference between “Xcompany releases new game” and “Xcompany revolutionizes gaming industry with their brand-new amazing game”?

Martijn Fiering
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Martijn Fiering

I’m sure that something like that exists in the more traditional media, but the majority of the media, especially in gaming, simply aren’t just news websites. They’re websites with people that love something and will write their feelings into the article.

If I were to write an article for a gaming website I could very well use a title like the one you mentioned because it might make me excited, I’m not a robot, and videogames aren’t serious enough to warrant a robotic facts-only piece.

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP

I can feel that.
I’ve had in-laws (the younger, dumber ones) stop talking to the elder members of their family over their opinions on “Brexit”. Said elder members of that family ARE FROM THE UK, and thusly it was absolutely chilling to watch these American born, never-left-the-country (or their little safe-bubbles, apparently) kids telling these people who are FROM the UK, and regularly travel back and forth form there, that they have NO IDEA what they’re talking about.

Because of course, that’s not what THEY hear on their AMERICAN news! It’s not what THEY hear on social media!

diamond
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diamond

Brexit was a stupid fucking move and i’ll scratch my head at anyone that thinks it was a good idea(yeah leaving the E.U. will totally stop immigrating from happening! Oh wait no it fucking won’t!) those people need to sucking Nigel Farrage’s dick, that guy went back on every single promise he made, anyone who blindly follows that racist, homophobic piece of dogshit is a fucking idiot.

So if those elders are whining about how all Muslims are EEEEEEVIL and only want to bomb everything, then maybe they don’t fucking have a clue what they are talking about.

Benj
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Benj
The press can do huge damage by misrepresenting information but I think aiming to be “unbiased” all the time is counter-productive. Saying “don’t be biased” is like saying “don’t make assumptions”, essentially impossible. I think it’s much better to simply be wary of assumptions and biases and own up to them when they’re relevant than trying to aim for a pure, untarnished middle-ground that doesn’t really exist. Reporting “just the facts” can be just as prone to misleading the public as any angry polemic opinion piece. The facts you choose to report and the context in which you choose to… Read more »
Grethiwha
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Mainstream news and games news aren’t really comparable. Mainstream news is corporate-owned and tends to skew what and how news is presented to serve the profitability of those corporations. Games news sites are usually more independently owned, and, y’know, they’re about videogames… not promoting actual war…

diamond
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diamond

It’s not just Americans dumbfuck, i’ve seen people from lots of countries on the internet who are just as bad if not worse.

Fuzzy Barbarian
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Fuzzy Barbarian

Called it last week.

Seriously, this fanboy outrage is so predictable by this point, you can basically see it coming whenever something is delayed or changed once it’s been announced.

Anton
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Anton

Jim, I love you and all, but too many of your pieces make me stop and think “goddamnit, I fucking hate people”

RaikuNH
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RaikuNH

I do that already every day.

aimei66
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aimei66

Wordy! Thanks Jim for making me feel old with this episode!

Nathan Aldana
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Nathan Aldana

Its always adorable watching people absolutely convince themselves that the world is one conspiracy after another centered around short-term gain at the expense of them.

Then again, thats why you really cant tell an alt right gamer, a tea party member, or an right-wing evangelical apart anymore. They all have the same fantasy of being the last good in the world, surrounded by evil and darkness.

galactix100
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galactix100

On the subject of Titanfall 2 did anyone else think the number of players the game was showing looked quite low?

Artemiy
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Artemiy

On a completely unrelated note… Is it me or do the words “career” and “Korea” sound similar?

aimei66
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aimei66

Yeah they do, ran into that phonetic confusion a couple of times teaching English in China.

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP

They’re pretty close, phoenetically.

goodbyejojo
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goodbyejojo

Sean Murray joins the league of extraordinary liars..

jimfk
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jimfk

That was quick, you where ready and waiting

dfx7
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dfx7

Can someone name me all of these devs? I only know peter Molynewz

goodbyejojo
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goodbyejojo

from left to right, Peter Molynewz., Randy Pichfork, Sean Mary, Todd Coward, Keiji Ragy and i dont know the far right dude in between ragy and coward.

dfx7
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dfx7

Thanks man.

galactix100
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galactix100

The one behind Molyneux and Murray is Randy Pitchford of Aliens: Colonial Marines fame. No idea who the rest are though.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

Electrode, Diglett, Nidoran, Mankey

Venusaur, Rattata, Fearow, Pidgey

Seaking, Jolteon, Dragonite, Gastly

Ponyta, Vaporeon, Poliwrath, Butterfree

galactix100
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galactix100

Is there a point to this or is it just a random collection of pokemon?

Merve
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I believe it’s one of the Pokéraps.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

It’s a part of Pokerap, if you’re interested.
I dunno, I thought it would be kinda funny… Like the “who’s that Pokemon” and stuff…
Sorry.

galactix100
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galactix100

Ah. I get it now.

Anton
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Anton

Shouldn’t David Cage be in there?

aimei66
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aimei66

Couldn’t fit him on there, it requires more emotions than a photo can render.

bdp
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bdp

Not sure i’d call Cage a liar just extremely pretentious.

Anton
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Anton

I seem to recall him making some grandiose statements about Beyond Two Souls that never came to be.

bdp
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bdp

ah, never played it so i have no idea what he said.

Stormbringer
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Omikron was supposed to be much more 🙂

Martijn Fiering
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Martijn Fiering

I still feel putting Toddy-boy there is a bit harsh, even though there is truth to it. 😛

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