The Jimquisition: Final Fantasy And Patchwork Narratives

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Square Enix has a roadmap of significant post-launch updates to Final Fantasy XV, going so far as to pledge entire narrative additions.

The idea of patching in more story is interesting, and in FFXV‘s case it’s even admirable. There is a downside to it, however, one that we ought to be mindful of.

 

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Remember when DLCs were called Expansion Packs and came with entirely new campaigns, game mechanics and a boatload of addons and additional content?
And it was only like $20 for the entire thing at once, not $49.99 for a season pass of drip fed gunskins and new powers.

Good times.

Janio2
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Janio2

Battlefront is now Euro 37.50 with season pass for PS4 and Roque One season bonus DLC ! Its a pirate island , is that not funny in weird way ?

Any know a Cure for Star Wars Movie Fever ?

Erich Fromm Hell
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I took the plunge with FFXV and finished the story the other night (i.e. before I heard that they were “fixing the plot” with free updates). I’m a bit peeved, not to mention confounded by what the hell went on during the game’s production. At any rate, there’s no doubt the version I finished is definitely a bit Phantom Pain in spots. For example, they just shoved in a cut scene from Kingsglaive with dubious context and concern for pacing, and then hung the narrative clarity of the 2nd half on flavour text that just can’t carry the weight of… Read more »
Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

While artistic integrety is something I’d love companies to get behind more often, I’d say it’s more probable Squeenix wants to ensure FF XV has a solid, classic-level reputation. Let’s be fair, as much as this series sells, its name has been dragged through the mud for decades. I’d say they’re worried for the long term, to make people think more favorably of the “new” Final Fantasy instead of using it as an excuse to talk about VI, VII, or IX again.

🌊Parasol Dimensions ☔
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🌊Parasol Dimensions ☔

Jim. Does this mean you might review jrpgs other than final fantasy and pokemon in the future?

Nobody's Fanboy
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Nobody's Fanboy

9:00 sums up my thoughts entirely. In this context, ok, it’s
interesting…but I dread what it means for the medium once some
boneheaded money-grubber over at EA or WB or Ubi realizes they can shat out even more incomplete products and half-heartedly pay lip service to the halfhearted production later maybe if they feel like it, before deciding to see if people will pay for what they were just too lazy to finish in the first place.

Shui Gor
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Shui Gor
Squeenix already did “patchwork narrative”: they’re called Final Fantasy XIII-2 and Lightning Returns. Anyways, all the more reason not to buy XV at all: there’s no guarantee the devs’ supposed promises of narrative explanations won’t be in the form of XV-specific free updates or paid DLC. Who’s to say the team won’t decide to make a Final Fantasy XV-2 on the belief that people jumped aboard the XV bandwagon so blindingly without considering whether XV, at launch, was truly the total package they were promised? Also, won’t this push for more XV content interfere with Kingdom Hearts III’s development ,… Read more »
The Outsider
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The Outsider

Personally I think the care CD Projekt Red took with players of Witcher 3 has put a certain degree of pressure on other publishers to not be so exploitative. When examples of players being treated with respect transpire it’s more difficult for the usual suspects to take the piss.

SirRichard
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SirRichard
The thing that’s often hard to spot about Square Enix’s biggest franchises, in and around the murk of mobile messes like All The Bravest and the ghastly DLC and microtransaction practices of their Western branch, is that there’s very much a thriving, artistic drive up there. Whatever the business around it does, what shapes each Final Fantasy more than anything is the whims of the current game’s director, with intervention from executives being kept to a minimum. Of course, realities of development and the like mar and change things, but for the most part it is the artistic vision of… Read more »
Stormbringer
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Shouldn’t sitting on the back of a car like that be illegal to portray in media or something?

And why are the pictures on those tarot unrelated to the arcana that are named on them??

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

Just a slight bit of criticism, that George Lucas bit went on a little too long. It went on long enough to go from passive-aggressive comedy to annoying, unpleasant cringe.

Still, I don’t find the story patches too terrible on the basis that Square Enix took out that content and tried to get you to watch a movie for the full story. And let’s be honest, no causal player is going to do that unless they hyper invested in the product.

Still, it made my decision to wait until it comes out on PC.

diamond
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diamond
This makes me very happy that I have zero interest in this game(not really a fan of JRPGs)but I feel sorry for people that actually are paying for what’s essentially the Early Access version of the game. There have been cases where certain levels and missions in games were later changed via patch, Saints Row 2 is one that sticks in my mind, there was one particular mission(the one where you kidnap Jessica) that I remembered being pretty hard the first time I played the game, but when I replayed it, it was nowhere near as difficult, some people mentioned… Read more »
CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Well, just look at the history of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z western localization and you’ll see that in practice. Entire episodes, thrown to the garbage bin in the first attempts, just to be put back when they tried again.

diamond
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diamond

Sometimes this happens with movies where the directors cut has a better pace and fills in missing details(I.E. Daredevil) it also happens with TV shows(the alternate ending to the series finale of How I Met Your Mother on the DVD release is FAR superior to the shitty one that originally aired on TV)

Kyolux
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Kyolux

I can’t wait to PULL THE LEVER!

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin
While I respect the idea that they might just want to get it right, I did immediately stop playing the game as soon as I heard they were going to rework the story in some ways. Admittedly, I was only a couple chapters in, but I was excited to play XV. Now I’ve shelved until they decide they’re actually finished it. This goes hand in had with my next years New Years Resolution. I’m no longer buying Day One, possibly even full retail. I’ll buy New when I can, to support devs, but I’m no longer taking a chance on… Read more »
AnGer
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AnGer
All the more reason to wait until this game is fully done. Final Fantasy (not Square Enix, Square Enix itself is actually fine, even if they can be criticised for their will-they-won’t-they approach to releases outside of Japan for their series outside of the Big Two, Kingdom Hearts and ofc Final Fantasy (here’s hoping for a full localization of Dragon Quest XI and at least a digital release of SaGa: Scarlet Grace)) is in this weird place for me where I’m not sure anymore whether to commit or to ditch the entire series for all eternity (or until another Matsuno/Ito/Sakimoto… Read more »
NateDizzy
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NateDizzy
I can think of one pseudo-cynical reason why SE is releasing free story patches: they want to make sure the FF brand stays strong. It’s their cash cow, after all . Letting it stay in its current may not hurt the bottom line right now, but it would probably erode confidence in future installments. Also, SE probably wants to sell merchandise based on Ravus and Luna. How can they do that if no one gives a f*ck about them? Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if Aranea and Cor get their own DLC. They seem like the type of characters who… Read more »
Фролов Денис
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Фролов Денис

Hey, it’s not like it’s new to cut out story content and SELL it as DLC. Bioware is especially prone to release “epilogues” and significant story content to their games. You may argue that “initially it wasn’t part of the story design”… but when something falls in line as good as, let’s say, Trespasser did, you may bet it was written all the way back during initial game production. Or that prothean companion BS.

aimei66
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aimei66

AAA industry needs to be careful; they are giving folk less and less reasons to buy early and more and more reasons to wait. The biggests fans are now potentially getting unfinished stories, incomplete modes, with game breaking bugs at the full cost. Those that wait on the other hand get the full polished experiance at often over half the price.

(and on a side note is that really ignis’s voice? Damn I am so glad I switched to the Japanese voices at the start.)

Locuas
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For all the problems Square-Enix has, sometimes I get the feeling the company (or the division dedicated to Final Fantasy)… genuinely loves Final Fantasy? like sure, they make crap like “All the Bavest”, but at the same time, they DID an actual heartfelt apology over Final Fantasy XIV and basically re-made the game. Hell, I would argue that, under the “JRPGs are a dead genre” belief, Square-enix did not do the “easy” thing and just completely drop the RPG elements and make it a full-on shooter and/or action game but tried to make an hybrid. Granted, Square-Enix support of the… Read more »
Muddy Scarecrow
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Muddy Scarecrow

If Squenix really cared so much about the narrative as they claim they would have finished it in the first place. =/

cowboyjimmy
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cowboyjimmy

FF XV on consoles is basically early access, until it eventually releases on PC, with all the extra goodies for less money..

SKELETON WARRIORS!

Dirge Novak
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Dirge Novak

I definitely do see how this could be a positive thing for the game, but I can’t help but be disappointed my first experience with the game is going to be the inferior one. If they wanted to do the “Early-AAAccess” thing they should have said so before launch. I don’t like paying $80 for the privilege of being a beta tester.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I can’t watch for 20 or so minutes (my break), but be prepared for a lot of comments on your actual review and maybe this video as well. I have no idea how many will be about the content or the actual words, or if it will just be your users yelling angrily about the game.

Apparently people are pissed at the game, I had no idea since I have avoided most of the coverage post-launch aside from actual news stories.