The Jimquisition: Final Fantasy And Patchwork Narratives

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Square Enix has a roadmap of significant post-launch updates to Final Fantasy XV, going so far as to pledge entire narrative additions.

The idea of patching in more story is interesting, and in FFXV‘s case it’s even admirable. There is a downside to it, however, one that we ought to be mindful of.

 

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Remember when DLCs were called Expansion Packs and came with entirely new campaigns, game mechanics and a boatload of addons and additional content?
And it was only like $20 for the entire thing at once, not $49.99 for a season pass of drip fed gunskins and new powers.

Good times.

diamond
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diamond

We still get those from time to time(I.E. Watch Dogs: Bad Blood)

Thanatos
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Thanatos

CDProjekt remembers.

Cinebeast
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So does Pepperidge Farm.

Yuntu
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Yuntu

What has this to do with the topic? lol

Janio2
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Battlefront is now Euro 37.50 with season pass for PS4 and Roque One season bonus DLC ! Its a pirate island , is that not funny in weird way ?

Any know a Cure for Star Wars Movie Fever ?

Erich Fromm Hell
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I took the plunge with FFXV and finished the story the other night (i.e. before I heard that they were “fixing the plot” with free updates). I’m a bit peeved, not to mention confounded by what the hell went on during the game’s production. At any rate, there’s no doubt the version I finished is definitely a bit Phantom Pain in spots. For example, they just shoved in a cut scene from Kingsglaive with dubious context and concern for pacing, and then hung the narrative clarity of the 2nd half on flavour text that just can’t carry the weight of… Read more »
Sperium3000
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While artistic integrety is something I’d love companies to get behind more often, I’d say it’s more probable Squeenix wants to ensure FF XV has a solid, classic-level reputation. Let’s be fair, as much as this series sells, its name has been dragged through the mud for decades. I’d say they’re worried for the long term, to make people think more favorably of the “new” Final Fantasy instead of using it as an excuse to talk about VI, VII, or IX again.

LatePocketwatch
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LatePocketwatch

However pathetic it is, I’m glad someone somewhere has the ability to think in the long term.

🌊Parasol Dimensions ☔
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🌊Parasol Dimensions ☔

Jim. Does this mean you might review jrpgs other than final fantasy and pokemon in the future?

Shui Gor
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Shui Gor

Dark Souls and Bloodborne don’t count?

🌊Parasol Dimensions ☔
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🌊Parasol Dimensions ☔

Wasn’t aware. It’s hard to not imagine them as western developed due to the western motifs and style of voice acting. Edited

Jim Sterling
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I’d love to do more JRPG reviews. It’s just hard to get them done due to time.

diamond
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diamond

Did you get that copy of Tales of Zestiria that I sent you?

Chris
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Chris

I heard that. I work full time and am currently trying to play through as much of Shin Megami Tensei iv apocalypse as I can (a game that has been out for a week I think?)

RifleAvenger Sashiro
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RifleAvenger Sashiro

Apocalypse has been out since September.

Would love to see Jim review an SMT game though.

Chris
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Chris

Ahahahaha.. you lucky American boy. Down in Australia, it’s been out for four days (I just checked release date)

RifleAvenger Sashiro
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RifleAvenger Sashiro

Oh yeah, I forgot how Europe and Beyond has the shittiest release dates. Persona Arena got released in NA two weeks after Japan, and something like over a year later got to Europe.

What’s up with that anyways?

Chris
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So here is some educated guesses and pieces I’ve read online but not 100% confirmed fact (different companies work differently). Please bear in mind UK and Australia both use PAL region (which is why we often share release dates despite being continents apart. Also why I import a lot of games from the uk without worrying about region locking) 1. It could be related to localisation. While North America might only have to translate text into English (US dialect) and maybe Spanish (mexican dialect), Europe might have to translate into English (uk dialect), Spanish (spain dialect so you can’t even… Read more »
George
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George

How is it? I liked Shin Megami Tensei IV.

Chris
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Chris
So I’m only about 10 hours deep (of course I got review copy the day of my frigging wedding! @$%@#$%) but so far I’m enjoying it. At the moment I’m giving it a 7 or 7.5 out of ten with the caveat you will only like it if you can forgive ps2 era graphics, like turn based jrpgs and can forgive visual short cuts (the only 3d models being your main character exploring the map and very shitty npcs and everyone else being 2d portraits, short cuts like that). With that said, I’ve literally never played a SMT game before… Read more »
Nobody's Fanboy
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Nobody's Fanboy

9:00 sums up my thoughts entirely. In this context, ok, it’s
interesting…but I dread what it means for the medium once some
boneheaded money-grubber over at EA or WB or Ubi realizes they can shat out even more incomplete products and half-heartedly pay lip service to the halfhearted production later maybe if they feel like it, before deciding to see if people will pay for what they were just too lazy to finish in the first place.

Deena
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Deena

Then. don’t. fucking. buy. them.

I mean, I understand what you’re saying, but let’s not act like we’re somehow obligated to reward EA or WB or Ubisoft if they go that route. All we can do is vote with our wallets; there are plenty of developers out there who won’t take the greediest, most exploitative course of action every time.

Shui Gor
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Shui Gor
Squeenix already did “patchwork narrative”: they’re called Final Fantasy XIII-2 and Lightning Returns. Anyways, all the more reason not to buy XV at all: there’s no guarantee the devs’ supposed promises of narrative explanations won’t be in the form of XV-specific free updates or paid DLC. Who’s to say the team won’t decide to make a Final Fantasy XV-2 on the belief that people jumped aboard the XV bandwagon so blindingly without considering whether XV, at launch, was truly the total package they were promised? Also, won’t this push for more XV content interfere with Kingdom Hearts III’s development ,… Read more »
AnGer
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“Also, won’t this push for more XV content interfere with Kingdom Hearts III’s development , or are XV and KHIII getting made by different Squeenix teams?” Kingdom Hearts III is made by Square Enix’ Osaka team (they already developed Dream Drop Distance and had a hand in the remasters), while Final Fantasy XV is being handled by Business Division 1 in Tokyo. So no, no interference. The same goes for Final Fantasy VII Remake as well – the artistic stuff is handled by people at Square Enix and the actual development is done by CyberConnect2 (previously known for the .hack… Read more »
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You’re close on the things I actually do know and I won’t address things I don’t know here. BD1 is the 7 Remake and KH3, and its headed by Tetsuya Nomura (who previously headed BD2). BD2, in turn, is headed by Hajime Tabata, and is handling all XV DLC and updates as well as the game’s core development over the last 5 years. While the directorial change was made public last year, it was already planned to be in place at some later point around 2012 when Tabata became co-director with Nomura and they set a release date. I have… Read more »
drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Then of course there is the release of FFXVI in 2026.

Assirra
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Assirra

To this day i will never understand why FFXIII-2 and Lightning Return exist at all.
Why not just end the story at the end of 13? It instead turned into a clusterfuck nobody could follow wtf is going on.

diamond
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diamond

Cause 13 sold really well that’s why.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS
13-2 was an apology to address the concerns of the first game. I consider it to have the best combat and upgrade system of the mini-series, and the Chrono Trigger vibes they tried to emulate were heartfelt even if they missed the mark on why that game was so special. 13-3 was a means to close the plot loopholes they accidentally or intentionally opened with the 13-2 DLC and ending. It’s mechanically a great game, but I didn’t personally mesh with the transition from the old Paradigm system into a “dress-up superpowers” system. The narrative is complicated, to be sure,… Read more »
Yuntu
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Yuntu

Because the company almost died due to XIV and needed games to get some easy money. There is a reason XIII-2 retcons the ending from XIII …

Yuntu
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Yuntu

SE already denied any intention of making XV-2.

And XIII-2 and LR only got made to push them through hard time when they where about to die due to XIV1.0 needing a complete remaking basically eating the companies entire money away … XIII didn´t need any sequels and the way XIII-2 and LR are done clearly show that was more done out of a need for money than anything else … and currently SE has nothing that would push them to that again.

The Outsider
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Personally I think the care CD Projekt Red took with players of Witcher 3 has put a certain degree of pressure on other publishers to not be so exploitative. When examples of players being treated with respect transpire it’s more difficult for the usual suspects to take the piss.

Gurphardt
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I can’t imagine it’s placed too much pressure on them, I imagine most consumers will just keep coming back out of sheer (misplaced) brand loyalty.

SirRichard
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SirRichard

I don’t know if I’d say “most” after this November, with the massive drops in sales of high profile franchises and all. The loyalty’s beginning to wane.

Gurphardt
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Have they now? Color me surprised, I’m actually interested in seeing some statistics for that, I figured people would just keep eating it up every year.

SirRichard
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Moderation seems to have eaten the reply I wrote, so I’ll do over without the article link (it was a Eurogamer article on the state of Watch_Dogs 2’s launch week sales, shouldn’t be too hard to find); it did a bit of news a few weeks back, there was this brief panic stations week where it seemed like every AAA game was suddenly failing or seeing big plunges in sales from their predecessors. Titanfall 2, Call of Duty IW, Watch_Dogs 2 and Dishonoured II all fell short of their predecessors’ launch week sales, especially in the UK (which gained focus… Read more »
Gurphardt
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Thanks, I appreciate the effort you took to type this up. I’m honestly shocked at these statistics, I really didn’t think sequel fatigue would set it in for the market at large. I’m also kind of heartened by that, maybe it will goad major publishers to change things up in either the release schedule or the game design department or just interesting new IP. I’m eager to see if this dropoff in sales becomes a trend next year. I must say, though, I’m surprised Dishonored II didn’t sell as well. It’s been a full 4 years since the last game,… Read more »
diamond
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I don’t think it really has set in, otherwise BF1 wouldn’t have sold as well as it did and COD’s numbers would be far lower.

People were saying that about movie sequels in 2014, but the huge success of films like Jurassic World and Fast 7 in 2015 put those claims to rest, and I believe similar things will happen with games in 2017, where we’ll see games like Mass Effect Andromeda do insanely well.

Gurphardt
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I’ll give you BF1, but a 46% drop in sales for CoD is nothing to sneeze at. (I’m reasonably sure Andromeda will do well too, but I think that has more to do with the amount of time between it and the last ME title)

diamond
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diamond

COD’s sales have been going down for a number of years though, it’s not as though this is the first time it’s happened, so it’s not quite as shocking as people make it out to be.

diamond
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diamond
I don’t know about that, COD is still selling well, and it’s not the worst selling entry in the series by far. The backlash is largely from a small vocal minority. Watch Dogs 2 was also the victim of bad timing, the first game sold well because it came out in May with no real competition to go up against it, the second game had IW and Dishonored 2 to compete with, they may be different types of games, but the average consumers aren’t going to be able to afford every AAA release, so they have to pick and choose.… Read more »
Assirra
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Assirra

Well if you want a perfect example. Fallout 4 didn’t win everything under the sun with Witcher 3 being a lot less popular game being praised like no tomorrow.

Gurphardt
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Fallout 4 still sold like gangbusters, though.

diamond
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diamond

I don’t know about that, COD and BF still sold like gangbusters.

The Outsider
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The Outsider

I think the pressure is extremely minimal, but I’ve noticed more people using Projekt Red as an argument to debunk claims from corporations that treating players fairly is some sort of impossibility. I agree on the whole any impact there has been is a drop in the ocean.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Well there’s the other considerable factor whether they actually give a fuck.

The Outsider
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The Outsider

Corporations don’t give a fuck about anything except profit, that’s not disputable. However the level to which they can exploit people depends upon how well they can manage perceptions. The more cases there are of players being treated with respect the more difficult it is for corporations to exploit them without damaging their reputation.

SirRichard
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The thing that’s often hard to spot about Square Enix’s biggest franchises, in and around the murk of mobile messes like All The Bravest and the ghastly DLC and microtransaction practices of their Western branch, is that there’s very much a thriving, artistic drive up there. Whatever the business around it does, what shapes each Final Fantasy more than anything is the whims of the current game’s director, with intervention from executives being kept to a minimum. Of course, realities of development and the like mar and change things, but for the most part it is the artistic vision of… Read more »
Benj
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Benj

It’s a shame that Square Enix didn’t take this hands-off approach to games like Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and Just Case 3 since they were both marred by how much the production was meddled with.

SirRichard
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SirRichard

Indeed, and Square Enix/Eidos Montreal (whichever name that DX studio goes by currently) in particular has struggled with that a lot. I remember hearing the Thief reboot in particular was messed up by a whole lot of miscommunication and meddling, too. Given the stark contrast between approaches, I wonder if it’s a hold-over from the Eidos days, or if the brass back East don’t fully trust the Western one to run themselves.

Mrguydude1337
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Deus Ex wasn’t made by Squeenix, it was developed by Eidos Montreal, the same assholes who made Thief 4.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Not the point being made. Executive meddling was the point being made, which Jim’s covered previously in regards to Mankind Divided.

Yuntu
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Yuntu

Well the reason for that is the western SE branch being more stupid than the japanese one …

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Wasn’t the initial launch of 14 quite some time before Lightning Returns?

SirRichard
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SirRichard

Oh sure enough, it was. ARR was just slightly before LR, too, that’s what threw me off.

Göran Isacson
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Göran Isacson

I don’t recall that Tabata interview you speak of, but I’d be very interested in reading it. Do you have a link, or is it just somewhere out there, lost on the greater Internets?

SirRichard
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SirRichard

I don’t seem to be able to post links, as the automatic moderation seems to catch and eat that, but I can tell you it’s out there. It’s a 4Gamer (Japanese mag/site) interview between Tabata and good old Katsuhiro Harada of Tekken, the exact lines are something like “Final Fantasy is a special game, so that makes us special making the game.” and “We are not special people, hurry up and open your eyes”.

Aristatide
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“Of course, realities of development and the like mar and change things, but for the most part it is the artistic vision of the director that decides what the final game is like.” I don’t know. Remember that Yiazmat, the optional ultimate boss of XII, was supposedly put in by developers as a reference to the conflicts between Yazumi Matsuno and Squeenix, with the mechanics (he had a ton of health, but didn’t heal if you left, so you could slowly whittle him down over time) specifically representing how that all turned out for Matsuno. Fuck knows that while I… Read more »
Edinkoo
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Edinkoo

This game will have about 50 paid DLCs. Yeah thats totally admirable and its art

Stormbringer
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Shouldn’t sitting on the back of a car like that be illegal to portray in media or something?

And why are the pictures on those tarot unrelated to the arcana that are named on them??

Chris
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Chris

Don’t say that! Right now, having both Japanese and English audio is standard practise for the biggest JRPGs. If you say you’d pay for it, hello every game ever making you pay for the original Japanese voices instead of just having them there.

Stormbringer
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But here Jim’s consumer crusade has the tables turned. Writing and voicework are a large part of a production, in some instance it could be the glut of it. When a product is ostensibly for one region, one hopes that each region is only expected to pay for their own linguistic needs. If you get the work of two literary teams, it only seems fair to pay extra, or deal with import premiums (which may not have subtitles if you want them) or be grateful for the charity you are receiving and take it on the chin when you do… Read more »
drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Have a look at Jim’s nitpick theater video.

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

Just a slight bit of criticism, that George Lucas bit went on a little too long. It went on long enough to go from passive-aggressive comedy to annoying, unpleasant cringe.

Still, I don’t find the story patches too terrible on the basis that Square Enix took out that content and tried to get you to watch a movie for the full story. And let’s be honest, no causal player is going to do that unless they hyper invested in the product.

Still, it made my decision to wait until it comes out on PC.

diamond
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diamond

Yeah and I personally don’t share Jim’s dislike for him one bit, I personally love the prequels(and think the Red Letter Media review of Phantom Menace is a godawful review) and the special editions.

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

The Prequel trilogy has not aged well, but I constantly call out the YouTube channels that claim they are the worst movies ever as the equivalent of a nerd kid in a playground repeating popular movie lines attempting to get attention.

If the Prequel trilogy is the worst you’ve seen in movies, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

RaikuNH
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RaikuNH

I consider them boring. I fell asleep during episode 2 and only remember the pod race and darth maul fight in 1.

diamond
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diamond

I loved episode 2, I wasn’t bored for a nanosecond.

diamond
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diamond

I don’t think they’ve aged any worse then most films from that time period.

There definitely are far worse films, people who claims the prequels are the worst thing ever need to watch hot garbage like Southland Tales to know what the true definition of a bad film is.

Nitrium
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Nitrium

And to think Southland Tales is good compared to some of the total crap I’ve seen, even this year. We had many discussions on this on Reelviews. You always bought up some obscure horror film as the absolute worst (the name of which escapes me). That said, I don’t think the Star Wars prequels are good films, but they’re certainly far, far from the worst I’ve seen.

diamond
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diamond

Dark Heaven was the film I was always bringing up, I hope to do a show on Youtube like Mysterious Mr Enter or Rowdy C of TV Trash, and if I do, i’ll definitely try to do review that piece of crap film, i’m surprised it’s not as infamous as Birdemic, it really should be.

I’ll admit I haven’t been to movie theaters in a while(due to overpriced tickets and getting tired of audiences and too many previews, so now I prefer to wait until DVD) so i’m not sure what films you could find worse then Southland Tales this year.

Nitrium
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Nitrium

Just counting 2016 releases: The Horde; Little Dead Rotting Hood; Lake Eerie; Somnus; Black Road; The Evil in Us; and Holidays – all worse imo than Southland Tales.
For the record, I’ve seen 94 2016 films from a total of 228 total watched (includes a handful of rewatches).

diamond
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diamond

I had fun with all of those films, no way in hell would I call them worse then Southland Tales, at least none of those dragged on for a fucking eternity like that film did, and at least they weren’t trying to shove a half-assed war message.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

I’m struggling to think of one as Pixels was released last year.

diamond
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diamond

If Pixels is the worst film you’ve ever seen, then consider yourself lucky, you don’t want to know how much worse it can possibly get, I dare you to try and sit through one of Uli Lommel’s serial killer films and tell me with a straight face that they are worse then Pixels.

Chris
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Chris

The worst movie I’ve seen is Beethovens 3rd. Fucking christ in heaven is that a rancid piece of shit.

diamond
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diamond

Meh, that’s an average kids film IMO, i’ve seen FAR FAR worse, like Year One(what a terrible film to end Harold Ramis’s career) and that One Missed Call remake.

Appretaur
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Pretty much agree here. I frankly find the original trilogy to be merely *okay* for being a fairly basic-feeling arrangement of established storytelling components, and that later cinematic epics operate by basically building on, and advancing over, the way Star Wars did it. I like Episode 7 better than Episode 4 for being basically a reissue of Episode 4 with more pleasing visual fidelity and a few different angles. And I honestly find a different kind of engagement from the political stuff that goes on in the prequels like I do with other politics-heavy fiction, even if I would passively… Read more »
diamond
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diamond

I think the original trilogy is a bit overrated(i’ll watch the prequels over Return of the Jedi any day of the week)

Andrzej Sugier
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Andrzej Sugier

Especially since he’s talking about changes Lucas made to the original trilogy re-releases, not prequels. Those changes were truly godawful and unnecesarry.
Diamond’s rush to defend the prequels is, as always, motivated by the need to be contrarian and controversial.

09philj
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09philj

There are only four good things about the Star Wars prequels:
1) The music
2) The lightsaber fights
3) Ewan McGregor being deadpan
4) Ian McDiarmid

diamond
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diamond

That’s your opinion, not a fact, I thought all the action sequences were top-notch and I didn’t hate the acting at all.

Andrzej Sugier
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Andrzej Sugier

Especially since he’s talking about changes Lucas made to the original trilogy re-releases, not prequels. Those changes were truly godawful and totally unnecesarry.

diamond
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diamond

You mean like changing Yoda from a puppet to CGI in Phantom Menace?

diamond
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diamond
This makes me very happy that I have zero interest in this game(not really a fan of JRPGs)but I feel sorry for people that actually are paying for what’s essentially the Early Access version of the game. There have been cases where certain levels and missions in games were later changed via patch, Saints Row 2 is one that sticks in my mind, there was one particular mission(the one where you kidnap Jessica) that I remembered being pretty hard the first time I played the game, but when I replayed it, it was nowhere near as difficult, some people mentioned… Read more »
Mrguydude1337
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Mrguydude1337

It’s still a pretty complete experience, it’s a lot closer to that whole Mass Effect 3 DLC thing.

The Outsider
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The Outsider

Is it really so bad this time? They’re not fixing a broken game, they’re just fleshing out what parts appear lacking. And it’s free. Early Access implies it’s not even finished and buggy. From what Jim says it is, it just could be better in a few places.

I despise corporate bullshit, but a company improving a well-received game with flaws for free isn’t one I can hate.

diamond
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diamond

The game should’ve been released that way to begin with, like Jim i’m worried this will encourage other publishers to sell games with half-finished stories.

Early Access does not necessarily imply buggy, just unfinished.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

An odd point when you were very nonchalant about day one patches.

diamond
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diamond

That’s different though, day one patches involve fixing bugs and things like that, this is patching whole new story bits in after release.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Bugs which should have already been fixed.

diamond
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diamond

True, it beats the old days where bugs couldn’t be patched at all.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Well, just look at the history of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z western localization and you’ll see that in practice. Entire episodes, thrown to the garbage bin in the first attempts, just to be put back when they tried again.

diamond
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diamond

Sometimes this happens with movies where the directors cut has a better pace and fills in missing details(I.E. Daredevil) it also happens with TV shows(the alternate ending to the series finale of How I Met Your Mother on the DVD release is FAR superior to the shitty one that originally aired on TV)

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

He affirms this is different to director’s cuts. Personally I’m not sure how.

diamond
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diamond

Maybe because the new story content being added to the game is stuff that’s not done yet, whereas directors cut are done with already existing footage that simply was not used for the original theatrical release for whatever reason.

Kyolux
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Kyolux

I can’t wait to PULL THE LEVER!

Lazyslothboy
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Lazyslothboy

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/16b1b9a6363a3ba9b30a99cfa3dccf7b16604d92d6e93f2924c6061353eac1a5.gif

I don’t really have anything productive to add. I just saw this movie for the hundredth time and just felt like sharing

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Wrong lever indeed.

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin
While I respect the idea that they might just want to get it right, I did immediately stop playing the game as soon as I heard they were going to rework the story in some ways. Admittedly, I was only a couple chapters in, but I was excited to play XV. Now I’ve shelved until they decide they’re actually finished it. This goes hand in had with my next years New Years Resolution. I’m no longer buying Day One, possibly even full retail. I’ll buy New when I can, to support devs, but I’m no longer taking a chance on… Read more »
AnGer
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AnGer

Final Fantasy IX was soft-remastered and re-released this year for Mobile and PC.

Deena
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Deena

The thing to keep in mind, I think, is that these games aren’t going anywhere. You have no reason to salivate over Andromeda because you’re going to be able to purchase and play it any time you choose. If the complete experience is something you value, just wait,

AnGer
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AnGer
All the more reason to wait until this game is fully done. Final Fantasy (not Square Enix, Square Enix itself is actually fine, even if they can be criticised for their will-they-won’t-they approach to releases outside of Japan for their series outside of the Big Two, Kingdom Hearts and ofc Final Fantasy (here’s hoping for a full localization of Dragon Quest XI and at least a digital release of SaGa: Scarlet Grace)) is in this weird place for me where I’m not sure anymore whether to commit or to ditch the entire series for all eternity (or until another Matsuno/Ito/Sakimoto… Read more »
AnGer
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AnGer
And finally, there’s the subject of game preservation. That’s more of a general thing (so separate post), but I strongly agree with the necessity of preserving video games for future generations. Not necessarily because these games are must-plays (good god, I like old games and I can’t handle anything older than the SNES for long), but as study objects for future designers. That being said, preservation of video games is a hassle (moreso than document preservation – which is what video games would be categorized as under UNESCO conventions). Unlike movies, music or books, which can be accessed through relatively… Read more »
NateDizzy
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I can think of one pseudo-cynical reason why SE is releasing free story patches: they want to make sure the FF brand stays strong. It’s their cash cow, after all . Letting it stay in its current may not hurt the bottom line right now, but it would probably erode confidence in future installments. Also, SE probably wants to sell merchandise based on Ravus and Luna. How can they do that if no one gives a f*ck about them? Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if Aranea and Cor get their own DLC. They seem like the type of characters who… Read more »
Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

Clearly, you missed the memo that the director wants this to be the next FF7. The game that’s SE’s equivalent to Pokémon Red/Blue in the west.

Which is hilarious considering they’re doing FF7-Remake.

Фролов Денис
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Фролов Денис

Hey, it’s not like it’s new to cut out story content and SELL it as DLC. Bioware is especially prone to release “epilogues” and significant story content to their games. You may argue that “initially it wasn’t part of the story design”… but when something falls in line as good as, let’s say, Trespasser did, you may bet it was written all the way back during initial game production. Or that prothean companion BS.

Gurphardt
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Javik absolutely should have been part of the ME3 main game, but I give the epilogue DLC a pass because it takes place well after the conflict of the main game has been resolved, and is more to set up the next game in the series.

aimei66
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aimei66

AAA industry needs to be careful; they are giving folk less and less reasons to buy early and more and more reasons to wait. The biggests fans are now potentially getting unfinished stories, incomplete modes, with game breaking bugs at the full cost. Those that wait on the other hand get the full polished experiance at often over half the price.

(and on a side note is that really ignis’s voice? Damn I am so glad I switched to the Japanese voices at the start.)

LatePocketwatch
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LatePocketwatch

The biggest issue is transparency. There’s nothing wrong with offering fans the option of earlier access, lower case letters, even with a tacit surcharge so long as you’re clear with what you’re selling.

But, somewhere in the development, publishing, marketing chain someone is a dick.

aimei66
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aimei66

Yeah I can agree with that. At least with a steam early access game you know its not finished before hand and usually the price reflects that.

Locuas
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For all the problems Square-Enix has, sometimes I get the feeling the company (or the division dedicated to Final Fantasy)… genuinely loves Final Fantasy? like sure, they make crap like “All the Bavest”, but at the same time, they DID an actual heartfelt apology over Final Fantasy XIV and basically re-made the game. Hell, I would argue that, under the “JRPGs are a dead genre” belief, Square-enix did not do the “easy” thing and just completely drop the RPG elements and make it a full-on shooter and/or action game but tried to make an hybrid. Granted, Square-Enix support of the… Read more »
Muddy Scarecrow
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Muddy Scarecrow

If Squenix really cared so much about the narrative as they claim they would have finished it in the first place. =/

cowboyjimmy
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cowboyjimmy

FF XV on consoles is basically early access, until it eventually releases on PC, with all the extra goodies for less money..

SKELETON WARRIORS!

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

Except they won’t release it for less money. They wouldn’t do that unless it’s a game that came out 10 years ago.

cowboyjimmy
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cowboyjimmy

lightning returns is like 20 bucks on steam, which came out in 2014 for consoles, last year on PC, so much for your 10 years nonsense

Dirge Novak
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Dirge Novak

I definitely do see how this could be a positive thing for the game, but I can’t help but be disappointed my first experience with the game is going to be the inferior one. If they wanted to do the “Early-AAAccess” thing they should have said so before launch. I don’t like paying $80 for the privilege of being a beta tester.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I can’t watch for 20 or so minutes (my break), but be prepared for a lot of comments on your actual review and maybe this video as well. I have no idea how many will be about the content or the actual words, or if it will just be your users yelling angrily about the game.

Apparently people are pissed at the game, I had no idea since I have avoided most of the coverage post-launch aside from actual news stories.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I see whut you done did there, you glorious bastard. You brought back your old backing music, and then mixed even more FF9 in for good measure.

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