The Jimquisition: Game Industry Executives Are Fucking Idiots

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Battlefield 1 has turned a lot of heads. Its announcement video is the most liked trailer on YouTube. Hell, even I’M interested in it.

Electronic Arts executives, however, didn’t want it to happen, which is sadly true of a lot of executives in this industry. People who know nothing, yet are paid to control everything.

They’re idiots, and we’ll never know what potential future successes they killed in the womb.

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP
You’d be shocked about how many people called the “they will SPECIFICALLY use the ‘Boss vs. Snake’ scene in a Metal Gear Pachinko machine ad” thing months ago. The only thing I’m not shocked by, is how it took Konami THAT long to do it. #FucKonami. And at this point, pretty much ANY “industry executive” tends to be a fucking idiot. Most of them getting where they are now by virtue of the cash/investors they’ve brought to the table, or the connections they’ve made, and not by actually having any real experience doing what their company does. It’s why I’ve… Read more »
Gareth
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Gareth

They haven’t even used the original footage from Snake Eater. That’s clearly been recreated in a new engine.

ENAY
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ENAY

Which is what makes me mad more than anything. Sure Silent Hill used clips from Silent Hill 2. But they actually went out their effort to make a MGS3 scene using MGS5 technology. In other words saying a fuck you to Snake Eater fans that could have been a MGS3 in the works.

Dave Dogge
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Dave Dogge

It happens everywhere, CEOs who just don’t care about the product and don’t understand the detail of the product or it’s potential market .. it happens in tech companies (look at that scum ex Pepsi CEO of Apple), investment banks (clueless CEOs appointed by chums), multi-media companies etc

William Jones
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William Jones

Didn’t Sculley save apple after Jobs completely fucked it up and threw all his toys out of the pram, before breaking contract, dragging 5 others with him to go create next?

Thanatos2k
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Thanatos2k

How much you want to bet after Battlefield 1 is more successful than Infinite Warfare, that the next COD is suspiciously similar to it?

Because if there’s one thing AAA execs know that works, it’s ripping off anything else that’s successful.

Anton
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Anton

It’s still a big “if”. CoD has always sold BF by a wide margin; even if BF gains a lot of ground and CoD loses some, it may still look like a win for Activision.

Ushio
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Ushio

No chance.

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

I’m expecting a half-assed whiplash effect, Treyarch or Infinity Ward being told to aggressively crank out World War II shooters again because Reasons.

Something along the lines of “Shit, EA did World War I, what other conflict can we use that involves guns without being modern War on Terror stock?”

Naturally, the only answer the dunderheads would come up with would involve going back to Omaha Beach and seeing who remembers Saving Private Ryan.

Thanatos2k
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Thanatos2k

Call of Duty: Cuban Missile Crisis

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

Yeah, but wasn’t that one more of a political crisis than anything else? I don’t remember reading about armed conflicts between the USA and the USSR, just a lot of posturing and Strontium-19-packing dick-waving.

RioSine
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RioSine

Not really USSR and USA indirectly fought using proxy countries as Battlegrounds like Vietnam, althought it didn’t reached that point in cuba case, .

Now its very unlikely there will be a COD Vietnam despite how much propaganda those Rambo movies did back then

that event is just so infamous in so many levels that people started to reject their cultures, thus, counter cultures consolidated in that time period

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

Selling a Vietnam shooter would require some strong levels of introspection, the game’s scenario essentially going “THAT WAR WAS A SHIT SHOW AND WE KNOW IT.”

Thanatos2k
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Thanatos2k

Call of Duty: Bay of Pigs?

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

There is that…

diamond
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diamond

Highly doubt it, though I hope it doesn’t happen, I was sick to death of WW2 shooters years ago(there way more of those then modern ones, at least 60 of the former compared to only 20 of the latter) and don’t really want them to come back.

diamond
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diamond

Highly doubt it will outsell COD, it’s WAY too soon to tell. Enthusiasm does not always translate into sales-everyone thought Snakes on a Plane was going to be a big hit because of how many fansites it had, but that didn’t translate into movie ticket sales.

Gareth
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Gareth

That isn’t the original footage of that fight from Snake Eater. That looks distinctly like they remade it in 5’s engine so fuck you Konami.

Thom
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Thom

The Conan interludes in this video are the most important interludes in any video.

qorl123
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qorl123

That is not Conan, that is Rahaan. Original character, don’t steal!

Thom
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Thom

Is much very original character!

cclp
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cclp

Ace freakin episode, Jim. Bravo.

Neil Studd
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3:43 Psst… you missed a bit.

Jiryn
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Jiryn
I still feel the reason Infinite Warfare’s trailer is so hated is due to the fact they not only announced MW1 Remastered with it, but that it is an exclusive pack in with the premium priced IW. As for Battlefield, it may not be M rated. If they keep the gore and language down it could squeeze out a Teen like Battlefront and Halo 5. Though with the success of this game, mark my words that we’ll see a Call of Duty set in WW1 within the next 2-3yrs. None of this excuses the shortsightedness and stupidity of both the… Read more »
Anton
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Anton

I’m looking forward to “Clash of Kaisers”

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Trenchville

Anton
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Anton

Angry Krauts

Thom
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Thom

Franz Farmland

Anton
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Anton

*Approving Clap*

Also, Kim Kardashian Presents WW1 Fashion: The Game

Weasel Biggs
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Weasel Biggs

Do you get points if your picklelhaube matches your walrus mustache?

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Five Nights at the Somme

The Bandsaw Vigilante
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The Bandsaw Vigilante

The Trencher 3

boguspeople
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boguspeople

There is a ton of growth and innovation in the industry, you just have to stop looking for it in the AAA category.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

That is true and I’ve played many of innovative and amazing Indie games.
I just wish we saw more 16-32 bit pixel art.

Sadly though, AAA is what gets all the notice.
Still trying to figure out what denotes AAA, and from what I can tell it’s either budget or development size.

I say this since Demon Souls, Dark Souls 1, and Payday 1 and 2 were not considered AAA at release.

Anton
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Anton

To me, AAA seems to be massive development scale, coupled to the (formerly) respected brand names people used to associate with core gaming.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Yep!!
That’s what I see too.. size of development.

diamond
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diamond

I personally don’t care about indie games, there’s just too much garbage to wade through on Steam for me to bother looking. With retail releases there’s a lot less crap to sift through.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

I usually wait till the Indie is officially released before looking into them.

RoonMian
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RoonMian

I actually don’t think IW looks that bad but I was also a huge fan of Battlefield 2142 back in the day.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Agreed!

diamond
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diamond

Or like TotalBiscuit said, it’s mostly people jumping on a bandwagon, which will likely do nothing to affect sales. Most people are willing to pay 20 bucks extra for COD4 remastered, and those that are not will inevitably pick it up when it’s inevitably sold separately six months later.

Highly doubt COD is going to go back to WW1, Battlefield will never outsell COD, it ain’t gonna happen in this lifetime.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Doesn’t matter if it outsells COD or not.
If it appears to be popular or the next big trend, large publishers will try to jump on it.
It’s common in many industries.
Kind of like the Deadpool movie means we’ll probably get more (poorly thoughtout, me-too) r-rated super hero movies. Most of which will miss the point and reason WHY Deadpool did so well.

diamond
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diamond

I kinda doubt it will happen, Activision is a leader, not a follower, they’re not going to do a WW1 game just cause Battlefield did. So yes it does matter.

I’m excited about R-rated superhero films, it makes sense for Wolverine at least considering his video game was M-rated.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Like any publisher, they’re both.
Supposedly Titanfall is the reason we got the push to “Future” warfare and exosuits/mechs etc.
Though I know BO2 had small events involving these as well.

diamond
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diamond

Black Ops 2 was the leader in that department, as it came out before Titanfall did.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

True, and 2142 came out years before both but never really caught on.

diamond
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diamond

It didn’t catch on cause it was PC exclusive and multiplayer-only. Battlefield didn’t really become mainstream until Battlefield 2-Modern Combat.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

2142 came out after 2.

Anton
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Anton
I’ve been gaming since the mid-nineties; and the way I see it, most AAA publishers don’t make games for me, and have not been for a while. Big-money gaming is about making the most stupidly accessible product, eliminating any niche elements that could be a potential turnoff for the masses, and the introducing the most exploitatively cynical pricing/DLC model to maximize profits. Anything with personality or depth is thrown to the wayside. Given that opinion, I find it pretty hard to muster the effort to get mad at stories like this, especially when I know there people still passionate about… Read more »
Gaealiege
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Gaealiege

I’m with you.

Most of the time this view gets mercilessly downvoted or derided as “nostalgic.” It becomes tiresome to watch the AAA gaming industry cater to the lowest common denominator.

Then when you air a valid critique of said AAA game, the lowest common denominator floods the comments to tell you how you’re just a stupid head, liberal cuck.

Anton
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Anton

What the hell is wrong with Nostalgic? Especially given that the late nineties and early 2000’s were the Golden Age of Gaming compared to what we have now.

RioSine
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RioSine

I think people who didn’t game’d in the ’90 never got to see how the classics game deteriorated over time by losing features/RP elements, ie like every TES game losing a skill branch and spells with every iteneration of the series

Its often assumed all ’90 games are simplier than their today counterparts. while that is not necessary true.

Gaealiege
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Gaealiege

No clue. I’m 100% with you. I see no problem with nostalgic.

diamond
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diamond

I don’t think it caters to the LCD at all, I happen to like COD and that does not make me an idiot.

Gaealiege
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Gaealiege

I’m definitely not going to agree with that. Enjoying McDonald’s necessarily means you do not have a critical awareness of what constitutes quality food.

Same deal here.

diamond
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diamond

Wrong dumbfuck.

Eating too much fast food is unhealthy, but there’s no such issue with COD.

Everyone has their own definition of “quality”, and yours is not any better then mine is just cause you say so.

Gaealiege
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Gaealiege

No, sorry, quality isn’t subjective. You can say you enjoy eating a turd all you want, but no one is going to take you seriously or agree.

COD caters to the lowest of the low. People who are perfectly fine buying repeated iterations of a 95% identical game annually. Your taste in gameplay is as simplistic and base as the connoisseur of McDonald’s.

How you’ve managed to equate healthy with quality is beyond me. Are you saying there’s no such thing as a high quality scoop of ice cream? Idiotic.

Thanks for playing, kid.

diamond
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diamond
Yes it is “subjective” you fucking idiot, that’s the stupidest fucking thing i’ve heard yet. COD does not cater to the “lowest of the low”, by your logic Jim must be an idiot since he gave glowing reviews to all of the Modern Warfare games as well as the first two Black Ops games, god you’re so fucking stupid you must be a Trump supporter. Again with the stupid fucking analogy, eating shit is unhealthy and can kill you, same cannot be said for playing games which you view as being bad. Brain-dead morons like you are why many people… Read more »
Gaealiege
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Gaealiege
No, quality isn’t subjective. Preference is subjective. You should get a handle on that rage. COD does in fact cater to the bottom of the gaming barrel. It’s mindless gameplay, simple mechanics such that any child can jump in and immediately play, houses some of the worst vitriol in gaming, and caters to a base so stupid that they purchase the exact same game annually. I suspect you don’t comprehend what an analogy is. It doesn’t have to be exacting in its comparison. Often they are hyperbolic in order to showcase the extremity inherit in the subject matter. So let’s… Read more »
diamond
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diamond
No rage here, just astonished at how fucking dumb you are. It does not cater to the “bottom of the barrel” just cause you say so dumb fuck, you don’t get to decide what is subjective and what is not. I know damn well what an analogy is, and the ones you gave were shit. You’re the only one I see “kicking” and “screaming” here dumbshit, why else would you be so obsessed over people liking a franchise you personally don’t like? Your post is the only thing “objectively wrong” Saying the games are 95% the same shows that you’re… Read more »
Gaealiege
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Gaealiege
It’s cute that you think you can incense me with petty blather such as “dumbshit” and “dumbfuck” and your other inane dribblings. You clearly don’t have a handle on “quality” or the term “preference.” You can easily find their definition and etymology online through a quick google search. If you type in “define” before the word, google will give you a handy definition. I suspect awareness of your own words isn’t one of your strong suits. “It does not cater….just because you say so.” I’m certain you find it as amusing as I do that you keep asserting my intelligence… Read more »
diamond
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diamond
I clearly do have a handle on it fool. Your posts are the only inane dribblings here. I find it quite comical how unbelievably stupid you are. You are an arrogant dickhead. You sound like a child who can’t stand other people not agreeing with him. Saying that someone’s opinion has inherently less value because they like a franchise you don’t is incredibly fucking stupid and asinine, i’d say that’s something you’ll learn as you get older, but considering how incredibly fucking stupid you’ve been already, I know that’s not true. You should really type in the definition for “Fallacy”… Read more »
R.Hoffmann
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I am buying more and more “indie” or “Crowdfunded” games now. There are exeptions of course, like those Warriors games by Koei…yeah Tecmo-Koei how they are named now.

But Uncharted? Overwatch? Destiny? The Tomb Raider reboot? Fuu that’s nothing for me.

I really miss the time when Konami and especially Capcom were really cool game companies.The last Electronic Arts game I bought was Need for Speed Hot Pursuit by Criterion, their last good game I think.

diamond
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diamond

I personally don’t give a shit about indie games for the most part, they just don’t grab me the same way retail games do. Steam has way too much crap for me to sift through and look for good ones.

Tomb Raider reboot is one of my favorite games ever.

R.Hoffmann
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Well I don’t like at least 80% of the indies either. All these damn “8bit” platformers or metroidvanias are something I give a crap about.

But the recently released Diablo-like Grim Dawn..the aalso Diablo like Torchlight 2 and the upcoming Yookay Laylee are indie games I liked or care about. But go away with the damn 8bit crap.

diamond
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diamond

Dex is one of the few indie games that really stood out to me(also looking forward to Buck, that game that Caddicarus is voice-acting in)

SilentPony
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SilentPony

why isn’t there a huge GG/Konami openly lies/Arkham Knight level controversy over EA openly admitting targeting minors and children with their M rated game?!

I mean holy fuck! We all knew they did, but to be so blatant that they plan the setting based off what Mrs. FitzGerald is teaching her 4th graders in History.
This is the type of shit that gives those ‘Video Games cause violence’ fuckers some legitimacy because EA is marketing its hyper realistic WAR games to fucking toddlers.

Anton
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Anton

Give Fox News a week or two to catch up.

RoonMian
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RoonMian

This is the reason why I’m glad that the German version of ESRB is legally binding. If the whole world was like that and not as corporate friendly as the ESRB system, that shit would be nipped right in the bud.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

It may not be M-rated.
Remember Halo 5 and Battlefront were both T for Teen.

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Yeah, but every Battlefield has been Rated M.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Actually no, I looked back through all the previous releases.
1924, 2, 2142, Bad Company, Vietnam were all T for Teen.
Bad Company 2 was the first M rated.
(I’m even looking through the ESRB website)

diamond
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diamond

Because most people know EA isn’t really targeting kids, they just know gullible parents will buy their kids M-rated games no matter what, so they might as well make money off it.

Plus you mistakenly assume they’re talking about young kids, when they could just be talking about older teens, and them playing M-rated games is hardly the worst thing in the world.

boguspeople
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boguspeople

Although having quite a few valid points, Jim ignores one important concept in his considerations – risk. Particularly many examples he presents are just ones that happened to become a success.

Its like calling a careful financial investor an idiot because some other investor made big buck by putting into risky ventures. Its kind of ignorant.

p.s.
that doesn’t change the fact, that Battlefield 1 is probably going to be shit, and I’m not going to buy it, until someone unbiased like Angry Joe will provide his opinion.

Anton
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Anton

Very valid point here. People keep shouting that “corporations only care about money!” as if that’s new, or surprising, or illogical in any way.

Gaealiege
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Gaealiege

I don’t think many people are surprised to find that corporations are cold and calculating.

My experience suggests that many people buy into the American, conservative rhetoric that all wealthy people are geniuses/experts/grandmasters/chefcordonbleu. That’s simply not the case. Many of these executives are just as incompetent as any other person, they simply had access to wealth.

So the surprise appears to be when these self-proclaimed geniuses make blatantly idiotic decisions.

Jim Sterling
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The aversion of the risk to the point of making even dumber gambles is, itself, a problem in the industry that I’ve railed on before. Companies treating risk like a boogieman is part of the reason it’s such a messed up fucking industry.

TheOneTrueChuck
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TheOneTrueChuck

Well, when you’re spending $100 million+ on a title, there’s some justification for risk aversion. The people with the purse-strings want a healthy ROI. It’s hard to blame them in that respect. Although, enormous budgets to make blockbusters stifle creativity, and it inevitably make for bland also-ran games that recycle the same mechanics over and over again with the same dreary ultra-high fidelity bland forgettable game assets devoid of any character or personality…

If only there were a way to make compelling games that didn’t have such huge cost outlays. But that’s just crazy talk…

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Wait…Angry Joe is unbiased?

boguspeople
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boguspeople

My opinion has diverged from Joe’s only once or twice, other times – 100% match. Naturaly, that makes him totally and undisputedly unbiased.

Benj
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Benj

Putting a bit of money behind a novel concept and then putting out a larger scale sequel if it pays off = risky.

Continuing to make medium budget games for series that consistently sell to a modest but devoted fanbase = risky.

Pumping enormous amounts of money into a game in order to imitate and compete with the well-established market leading powerhouses in an already saturated segment of the potential market = where’s the risk in that?

diamond
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diamond

Yeah BF1 looks like crap, IW looks way better.

Helmic
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Helmic

A remade trailer of the MGS series’ most powerful moment… advertising a pachinko machine. I don’t know why Konami executives bother to wear pants at this point, they’re clearly going to shit and piss on everything regardless.

Jack Burton
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Jack Burton

Having boxed goods marketers turned execs, then losing their jobs, then becoming execs at EA and/or MS gaming divisions, and then selling boxed goods again.

gasmaskangel
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gasmaskangel
This is the problem with letting people who don’t love an artform run the industry around said artform. Make no mistake, the top suits running EA, SqueeNix, Warner Bros. and Sony don’t give a single solitary fuck about video games. They’d be just as happy selling you a used car as they are selling you a video game, or for that matter movies, books, music or fucking cabbage. So with an utter lack of interest in the product they’re selling all they give a shit about is how to get as much of a return on investment as possible. “Why… Read more »
Benj
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Benj
I agree with the general point but I think it’s worth being aware of the bias (not “teh bias” but actually a natural difficulty in looking at a fair sample) that goes on when people make this kind of point. We all know of the huge successes that were dismissed as having no audience but we don’t see all the rejected projects that would have tanked after failing to find an audience. It’s hard to know really but when we keep hearing about execs rejecting projects for really fucking stupid reasons while constantly trying to tap the same over saturated… Read more »
Фролов Денис
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Фролов Денис

Then again, there are fine examples of accepted projects that have tanked and failed to find their audience. Like every single franchise killer. Like Evolve.

Fuck, I’ll never forget what was done with latest Prince of Persia. By the same corporate suits, who decided that “oh yea, that’s the way to go”.

TimRobbins
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TimRobbins

I actually do believe that when executives say “X doesn’t sell,” it is based entirely on numbers. The problem is that “sell” typically means in the multi-millions, based on similar budgets. So even if they’re right, it just further pigeonholes games until diversity is reduced to one emotionless lump of mechanics with different names (Ubisoft). To Ubisoft’s credit though, they do occasionally take risks on smaller budget titles, but budget range in AAA studios is the big thing that needs to change overall.

Benj
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Benj

“X doesn’t sell” means “This won’t be the mega-hit that I need in order to negotiate my next bonus”.

Baltech
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Baltech

I feel that you can scratch the “Gameindustry” from “Gameindustry Executives are fucking morons” message.

BoingCameron
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BoingCameron

EA execs sound like movie execs. If movie execs don’t get a movie, they think that the public won’t get it either and will either order reshoots or just bury it (see Dark City for an example). They never seem to learn that most humans are smarter than an exec ever could be.

Za_Docta
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Za_Docta

Then we get something like World War Z.

BoingCameron
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BoingCameron

Read the book, never saw the movie. I think I can live the rest of my life without ever seeing it.

Za_Docta
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Za_Docta

I want you to imagine a zombie movie.
You have just imagined World War Z.

BoingCameron
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BoingCameron

more like imagine a zombie movie without Bruce Campbell or not made by George Romero.

qorl123
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qorl123

Did you read the preceding zombie book by the same author? It’s not as good, but it has some cool stories in it.

BoingCameron
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BoingCameron

I did read it. It was more humor than anything else. The second one was more ‘serious’.

qorl123
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qorl123

Huh, I must have misrembered it, I thought it was more straightfaced. World War Z while mostly serious, did have that comedic political/celebrity commentary. Like Dick Cheney shoveling manure.

BoingCameron
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BoingCameron

might have been. It’s been awhile and the memory is starting to get fuzzy at times.

diamond
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diamond

Never read the book and saw the movie and liked it.

BadassMcKill
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BadassMcKill

As far as I know WWZ actually did fairly well financially

I actually don’t get a lot of the hate directed at that movie, sure its not great but its not bad by any stretch of the imagination

Za_Docta
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Za_Docta

Well that’s the point. It’s not BAD, but then again, it’s not GOOD. It’s not much of anything, really. Just like Fuse.

BadassMcKill
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BadassMcKill

Yea unfortunately I think most people with money would rather do something mediocre and make some money than take any risk

Za_Docta
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Za_Docta

Say, that sounds like something I heard on a Jimquisition once…

diamond
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diamond

I liked em both

Anton
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Anton

As cynical as it is, their way of looking at things does work most of the time. Everybody loves to rip on Call of Duty, Bayformers, and every other bit of focus-tested garbage out there… but those things make an order of magnitude more money than any niche product that the executives kill.

Consumers love crap , unfortunately.

BoingCameron
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BoingCameron

True and it’s sad.

boguspeople
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boguspeople

Consumers also love niche and original products, and thats where small “indy”companies deliver. I’d say, gaming is more awesome as ever. No point in bitching that Fallout 4 is a shallow and casual product, when we have Wastelands 2. And we can live without Battlefield 1 (which quality is still unknown), when we have a decent and interesting Verdun.

Anton
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Anton

This, so much this. The mid-size developers are coming back, and indies are strong right now. One can disregard AAA entirely and still be a happy gamer these days.

BoingCameron
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BoingCameron

Amen. I keep an eye open for indie devs whenever I can. The only AAA stuff I have is stuff that was on sale (due to being old) or something I was already interested anyhow (Bioshock anyone?).

diamond
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diamond

I love my AAA gaming still.

Helmic
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Helmic
Indeed, indies are tripping over each other to give us great games that suit our niche interests. They may not have the polish or graphical splendor of a AAA game, but a game tailored to me is going to be more enjoyable regardless than a game that’s had many more manhours put into it but make concessions to appeal to an overly broad audience. Jim of course did a whole episode comparing this to the famous spaghetti sauce speech. A diverse AAA market can far more successful than creating what your competitors are creating. We don’t need two dozen open… Read more »
diamond
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diamond

Like TotalBiscuit said, there’s actually not that many modern military shooters(only like 20, which is not a lot when you consider there’s over 60 WW2 shooters)

I love most open-world games aside from the AC series(Which I consider the worst franchise of all time in gaming).

diamond
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diamond

COD and Transformers are awesome, they are not “focus-tested garbage” in the least.

Just cause you say something is “Crap” doesn’t make it so, that’s just your opinion, not a fact. Everyone has their own definition of crap, I personally think most Oscar Bait films are hot garbage.

David Sayers
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David Sayers

There has to be a name for the paradox whereby you become the stupidest person in the room as a direct result of believing everyone else is stupid?

gasmaskangel
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gasmaskangel

I believe its related to the paradox where you’re really terrible at something you’re convinced you’re amazing at.

Za_Docta
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Za_Docta

I’m an anime fan and I skipped my prom to get laid.
Speaking from experience, the only crying involved comes from the really weird sex anime fans have.

qorl123
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qorl123

The joke in the trailer was stupid, but you might have gone a bit too far in the other direction.

Za_Docta
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Za_Docta

“Gone a bit too far”
You don’t know the fucking meaning of the phrase…

Anton
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Anton

The octopus knows.

qorl123
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qorl123

I didn’t mean to say you said anything wrong or offensive, but your joke was equally as silly as Might No9’s in that trailer

Za_Docta
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Za_Docta

Nah, man. I was taking the joke further. It’s all cool.

Anton
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Anton

In my experience, the crying starts when the octopus shows up. Softcore anime fans are never ready for the octopus.

09philj
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09philj

This reminds me of a thing I once read about the development of the first Fire Emblem. Because it was made back in the good old days, the initial development was done by one Intelligent Systems employee and three student interns who never expected to get a commercial release.

Anton
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Anton

Unpopular opinion time: I don’t get the hype over BF1.

Yes, it looks cool. Yes it looks pretty. But this is an EA/DICE game, which makes me think that the WW1 thing will be window dressing sparingly applied over the same formula that DICE has been running into the ground for the last few years.

gasmaskangel
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gasmaskangel

With you on that.

Za_Docta
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Za_Docta

Battlefront looked cool and pretty as well.

Anton
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Anton

Yup, exactly this. Even if I’m wrong, we have the signature Battlefield broken launch and mountains of DLC/premium bullshit to look forward to.

Baltech
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Baltech

It’s something vastly different than what has been served up the past… decade? That’s sufficient for an amount of hype methinks (also see: Overwatch).

Anton
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Anton

It’s different visually. I have been given zero reasons to think that it will be any different functionally.

Like Za Docta pointed out, look at Battlefront. It sure LOOKS like a star wars game…. but it plays like Battlefield with really shitty guns.

Baltech
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Baltech

Oh, the basic mechanics will be more or less the same. It’s a Battlefield game after all. But given the equipment they’ll have to work with in a WWI setting, the game will have a different feel (hopefully). More chaotic, more deliberate maybe? Transformable terrain would be quite the thing to see in a game that (probably?) has trench warfare and artillery strikes. On the other hand, the trailer looks a bit cartoony so who knows? But yeah, different feel and look while keeping the Battlefield core will be more than enough for most ppl to get excited.

Anton
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Anton

The transformable terrain immediately makes me think of “levolution”, and how well that turned out. Hopefully they’ll do it better this time around.

And I don’t fault people for getting excited, I just don’t get why some are treating BF1 as the second coming of shooter Jesus. To me, it looks thematically similar to the CoD game that is getting trashed – old game, new wrapper.

qorl123
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qorl123

I’m not really hyped for it either, but I kind of get the hype, I guess. People are so fed up with this modern warfare stuff, anything different feels exciting and fresh, even if it will mostly be the same game with different setpieces. It was mostly the same with the first medal of honor and cod game, and then again with modern warfare. “Yay here’s something more realistic and cinematic, about a real war, no sci-fi monsters!” and “Yay finally no more of this ww2 shit, here’s something more relevant!”

diamond
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diamond

Modern Warfare hasn’t been a thing for several years though, now it’s futuristic warfare that the series is focusing on. Lots of people are not tired of it.

LordGentlehosen
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LordGentlehosen

Absolutely agreed. When I saw the trailer it just looked like “yet another military shooter” that happened to have a new coat of paint.

I mean, going from WWII shooters to modern military shooters never felt like that large of a transition to me, the core gameplay stayed the same, the graphics just got shinier and the toys changed a bit. There really is nothing to suggest the new Battlefield will be anything more than that.

diamond
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diamond

I don’t get it either, I think it looks fucking awful to be honest, IW looks way better.

This isn’t going to be an ultra-realistic take on WW1, it’s going to be the summer blockbuster version.

Onfire20x0
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Onfire20x0

Just purchased the new background track, but where can I buy the old one by Danny Baranowsky?

Jim Sterling
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You’d have to contact Danny over it. I’m not sure if he ever plans on releasing it or not, but he’d be the guy to reach out to.

Onfire20x0
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Onfire20x0

Much appreciated, I’ll give it a try. Thank God for you!

Jpkurihara
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Jpkurihara

I thought you were going to mention Square Enix and their surprise at Bravely Default’s sales.
I hope BF 1’s success drives more publishers to put their faith in riskier projects, but alas, it’s the Triple A industry. They never fucking learn anything.

09philj
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09philj

Bravely Default had the luxury of being cheap-ish to make. Thus, the team got more freedom to basically do what they want, especially because the producer brought in a small external studio to make it.

Jim Sterling
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I plan to address Square Enix and Bravely Default at another time, actually.

Absolutfreak
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I’m looking forward to it!

Фролов Денис
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Фролов Денис

The hand-drown intro still was the best

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