The Jimquisition: How Consoles Broke The ‘Play Now’ Promise

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After spending almost an entire day downloading Mafia III on the PS4, I’m compelled to reflect on how consoles are lying inferior machines that properly fucked up.

A harsh reflection, perhaps, but a bloody true one. Their makers consider themselves in competition with PC, so they’re asking for some harsh home truths.

Anton
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Anton

PS network has the worst download speeds. It’s bad enough that I never buy games on it any more, even the games that I WOULD prefer to play in the living room.

Also, when Jim says “Mafia” it sounds like “Muffia” and for some reason that’s funny to me.

SilentPony
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SilentPony

So…yeah. Turns out the new Console Generation was a complete load of fuck, sold on lies, gimmicks and hyper from journalism sites, and now a few years in the curtain has fallen to reveal the rotting corpse of putrefied fuck that it truly was.

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin

The digital download speeds are ridiculous, and I’m hoping the Pro and Scorpio address this, at least on the consumer side. Both companies could do more to improve their servers, though Xbox servers seem a little better, perhaps because MS originally wanted to run games partially from the servers this gen. Of course, the PC’s better download speeds are just hiding the underlying problems. No more compression, obscenely large day one patches, and so on. However, I don’t mind the need to install itself, since games just got too huge to play from the disc. And installing from disc is… Read more »

Coldar
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Coldar

One thing not mentioned where consoles have the advantage..? And yes, this will probably get me a lot of hate: Trophy/achievements. Now, I get Steam has that too – its too new, PCs are too volatile… I have zilch confidence that data will still be linked to me, much less current with new games, in ten years time. Why trophies? Because that shit *matters* – I’ve been gaming a *loooooooong* time. Since I was four, when my mom had to read the text dialogues to me. I’m 32 now. Some people can’t tell you what they had for breakfast yesterday.… Read more »

Stormbringer
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The system has to be able to stream 1080p video. It sounds like maybe it took as long to download the game as it would’ve taken to watch it if it was all video. It sounds crazy that games are that large, but it feels about right. I think I almost don’t play games anymore, because when I see Gigabytes, it just freaks me out. It’s too much of a commitment. In a true streaming model, you wouldn’t have all those Gigabytes just squatting on your harddrive, because they’d be gone when you are done, or only the data around… Read more »

Jiryn
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Jiryn

As I said in a reply. The XB1 Scorpio is NOT a new generation, just an interim upgrade. The system is still part of the XB1 family, and will play every game the XB1 can, and will have no to very few exclusive games… kind of like the New 3DS handheld. (Nintendo really needs to work on their naming conventions and branding) There still will be a new generation, starting with the NX. Generations are traditionally 5-6yrs in length, with the only consoles not falling into this pattern are the Dreamcast and NX. The NX coming out just a few… Read more »

Locuas
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I see you mentioned TWO EA games, Jim. Thus the logical conclusion is that you made this video… as a way to attack EA before Battlefield 1 came out to hurt it’s sales, since you hate the game
. WHY DO YOU HATE PERFECTION SO MUCH BATTLEFIELD1 IS SUCH ANOBJECTIVELY 11/10 GAME THAT I KNOW THAT EVEN BEFORE IT WAS RELEASED

Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

So pretty much everything I’ve been observing since the original Xbox. It has been one hell of a toboggan ride.

goodbyejojo
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goodbyejojo

i dont know why but the cobra theme song from the gi joe movie seems fitting for a pc master race theme

aimei66
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aimei66

Forget mobile, it seems the games industry itself is the biggest risk to console gaming!

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I think pre-order culture is to blame for a lot of this behavior actually. Sony doesn’t care because they have 2 extra days to install before the game even works, so the user doesn’t notice unless they are paying attention. Microsoft may be the same way. Publishers don’t care because there are no more hard data limits, and digital downloads are “supposed” to have already happened by launch day. Why bother taking the effort and manpower to make games as small as possible when you can just patch in the files the console wouldn’t let you include in the store/disc… Read more »

Kyle Pierce
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Kyle Pierce

The moment the AAA market stopped compressing their games I started laughing. 60GB downloads as far as the eye can see. They could easily cut that in half, but nope. They don’t give a shit anymore. Throw a virus or two in their while your at it.

Frank
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Frank

Amen Brother.
Even if you are setting the game up from a Blue Ray Disc it often takes an obscene amount of time.That and the massive hunger for
gigs coupled with the ridiculously undersized hard drives disgruntled me a lot with the new console generation.
Seems every big expactacion has got to be disapointed.
Remembers me of time, when the CD-ROM arrived and we thought that with all this amount of space on it, the need for massive installations would be something from the past.
Oh how young and naive we where back then.

Max Whiteley
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Max Whiteley

Yeah, nail on the head really. I would disagree that the Scorpio proves that console generations are shorter as that’s scheduled to come out in 2017 which is 4 years after, remember we did have a monstrous last generation and it was the PS2 that came out before that remember. The ps2 is so popular that people would have happily kept playing it until the games litterally exploded it, so that being an unusually long cycle was explained by its mind blowing popularity. I like where Microsofts going with the one I really do. I litterally have hundreds of games… Read more »

deiseach
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deiseach

Yes, yes, thrice yes! I have been wondering whether I have to turn on my Xbox One every morning even if I don’t want to play a game to ensure it is updated so that it is ready when I do want to play a game. Insane.

Dave Dogge
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Dave Dogge

It pissed me off only today, I haven’t played on my PS4 in just over a week and I get a system update which I have to get through before I browse on the Sony Store. Also I installed a 2TB drive on my PS4 and it was almost full of
crap and I had to get rid of the crap naming no names (No Man’s Sky). Anyone know when I can fit 5TB drives on my PS4 ?

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Fully agree, I’ve fallen for the “Fake Ready” so many times.
In fact, there were a few games that I’ve purchased that show the download was complete, only to find out that was only the initial download of 5-10GBs, only to have the meat of the game still downloading in the background, or waiting to be downloaded after I started the game up.

On the PS4, I’ve notice that things seem to download faster when set in “Rest Mode” but I use my console as a media device, so that regularly interferes with any downloads and etc sadly.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

Here’s a strange thought: with MS’s effort to build UWP and release the games both on Win10 and XB1, could it be that MS wants to move from console gaming to PC gaming?

Artemiy
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Artemiy

Hmm.
I just was reading your article on NMS refunds… Here’s an idea: could it be that this time tries to snatch more “play time” so that less people request a refund? Just a thought.

09philj
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09philj

Nintendo still tries to hold up this particular ideal on 3DS. Their games still have to download and install, which doesn’t take too long, and minor patches and updates will generally need to be installed, but it all works fairly well.

Germanicus
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Germanicus

I’m on 200 meg broadband and it still took over 2 hours to download Rise of the Tomb Raider on PS4 at the weekend, tried it over wifi, LAN cable, nothing made it go any quicker. I just don’t see where the bottleneck is on Sony’s network.

Thanatos
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Thanatos

It’s been like this for a while. Time from disk insertion to actual gameplay is actually much, much faster on PC now. Steam will install your game AND patch it, AND any DLC you are owed in one operation. With consoles it’s a multi-stage process with multiple system updates (Odd, I don’t have to update Windows to the latest version in order to install or play a game, even playing it online), and wading through the shit show the is the Playstation or Xbox store a second or third time to download any free DLC. Consoles are just weak PCs,… Read more »

TheGreenSasquatch is a puddle
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TheGreenSasquatch is a puddle

Also I agree with you with download times and size Day One DLC on consoles, it’s so annoying and I wish the PS4 was honest when games are downloading and just tell me when the game is actually downloaded. Even games like Overwatch does it. Though one point I disagree with you with is that the only areas Console had the up on was cost and convenience. For me and many other left handed people, PC gaming is a massive pain because of the lack of left handed support for many games like preset southpaw controller and keyboard options or… Read more »

RifleAvenger Sashiro
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RifleAvenger Sashiro

Consoles have lost themselves chasing after something they can never be. It’s sad really.

TheGreenSasquatch is a puddle
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TheGreenSasquatch is a puddle

Question, with Troy Baker and other voice actors are officially going on strike, I’m wondering if you planing on doing the same when it comes to that area?

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