The Jimquisition: How Consoles Broke The ‘Play Now’ Promise

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After spending almost an entire day downloading Mafia III on the PS4, I’m compelled to reflect on how consoles are lying inferior machines that properly fucked up.

A harsh reflection, perhaps, but a bloody true one. Their makers consider themselves in competition with PC, so they’re asking for some harsh home truths.

Hiroshi_Mishima
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Hiroshi_Mishima
I’ve talked about this in the past, how I used to own tons of consoles.. at least two per generation if counting handhelds. I never had the money for something like a computer, and even when I did I had to stick with it for like 8+ years due to lack of money for a whole new rig cause of how rapidly the technology changes. The appeal and affordability of a console was irrefutable back in the 80s and 90s. Unless you got all your games pirated, but there was always those silly copy protection passcodes and junk for PC… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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They have not totally vanished at all, on consoles I don’t have to worry about something like software randomly conflicting with my game like I do on PC.

MM
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MM

Have you considered my idea of a “Fuck AAA News” with fuckups tidbits
that can’t get into the main show? I bet nobody will complain if you
still keep the “F*** Konami News” intro and title. =)

Benj
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Benj

How about “AAArsehole of the week” as a segment title?

It doesn’t quite work when said out load though like with the “Early AAAcess” video. He also sort of has this kind of thing covered with the Bullshit round up articles as well.

MM
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MM

hahaha.. nice recall! 🙂
True true, although I hardly have the time to read the stuff, so what could be done instead (since he already got the material) would be to include the “best” (worst of the worst? :)) at the ending. This could also work as a marketing for his own articles, so people like me could be enticed to “learn more” about what he’s talking about (and go read the article).
Cheers.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

Isn’t the whole show basically “Fuck AAA”?

Weasel Biggs
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I prefer to think of the JimQuiz as being “We Sure do Love our Vidyas, but Fuck if They don’t Make Us Depressed About Their Existence as Corporate-Mandated Products, Sometimes…”

MM
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MM
haha Yes. Exactly. I was having trouble justifying it, but I guess “tidbits” could be it, more on the corporate side instead of the games (or the corporate shit that influenced the games/gameplay, since that’s also what he already covers). Say maybe how the company treats its employees, like Konami (most Japanese companies I suppose?) did. But I missed last episode and now I’ve seen Jim DID began to, let’s say, diversify the news to other companies, even creating a new section/column dedicated solely to Ubisoft! haha, great! Maybe in the future he’ll join the whole industry in 1 single… Read more »
danrg26
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Those bandai still own the right to mini games in loading screen ? I know they were back in the days

Dahak
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Dahak
I stopped caring about consoles when they stopped making split-screen multiplayer games. I have always preferred PC for SP and online MP, but I used to love console for the ability to have friends over and everyone play on the same machine. Now almost all new titles that aren’t specifically ‘party games’ require you to play MP over the internet with each player having their own system. Consoles have taken almost all their advantages over PC and replaced them with what used to be the exclusive disadvantages of PCs… Thus I still have my completely functional PS3 (the original version… Read more »
Mr. Tastee
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Mr. Tastee
Its easy to say that consoles were better back in the old days but you take the good with the bad. Being able to pop in a game and play it straight away and not having to fuss with installs and or patches is nice. However, being able to fix problems they were unable to prior to launch is good as well. Then again you could argue that this ability has been abused and more games get shoved out before being finished. They know they could sell a shell of a game and just finish it later. Preorders make this… Read more »
Trafalgar
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Trafalgar

All they need to about the loadingscreen you get when starting a game that supposedly is installed is put some microtransactions there, voila its a game now!

Nivmarx
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Nivmarx

I’m a console gamer and while I agree partially, especially with the uncompressed and huge game files, I still say that consoles are more convenient. I’ve had some really bad experiences with my PCs in the past, mine broke recently, and while I understand that some like the customizing and upgrading of a PC, I don’t have the money and the patience for that. If I buy a game for the PlayStation at least I have the guarantee that it works on my PlayStation.

Dahak
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Dahak
I’d say that is a problem with any system anymore. My rig has been running fine since I built it 2 years ago. I had to send my PS3 in for warranty repairs twice in 2 years before I basically stopped using it much. It took them the better part of 2 weeks each time to get me ‘my’ system back when all they did was send me a refurbished system while they refurbished mine. I demanded that they send back the original version too since I paid all that money for it and I wasn’t going to let them… Read more »
Nivmarx
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Nivmarx

Well yeah, I guess I just have Bad luck with computers. To me consoles have just been more reliable. But I heard a lot of people complain about the PS3 especially. Maybe my next PC will convince me.

derek tomek
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Yep, plus you can just put it in sleep mode and download that stuff while you sleep. Problem solved. And if you’re the type that can’t wait? Pre-order and preload (at your own risk). Problem solved.

Nivmarx
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Nivmarx

To my knowledge it doesn’t solve the post download install problem. As Jim said, they often don’t even tell you that it still has to install. I had that problem with Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 4. I bought the disc and it still installed for 2 hours, only letting me play free battles.

Marcus Cohen
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Marcus Cohen

There really seem to be fewer and fewer reasons to buy a console these days. Even the exclusives don’t seem to be much of a deal, especially for people who have perpetually expanding and practically incompletable backlogs on Steam.

Janio
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Janio

Think the exclusive games are lossing ground , because the other systems will get a copycat game to fill it slot. Also how many big ip have not one or more bad apples in there lineup ?

Marcus Cohen
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Marcus Cohen
There are definitely alternatives to anything. And not necessarily copycats. They don’t even have to be similar, just equally fun. For example, I’d love to play Bloodborne. It’s pretty much the only console exclusive game I care about. But will I buy another piece of hardware, technically inferior to what I already have, because of it? Probably not. Instead, I’ll play Baldur’s Gate II, The Witcher 3 or some other 100+ hour game that I’ve never actually finished. There are more games than free time, and I think many people are in the same situation where even one platform is… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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Personally I don’t really care about most Steam exclusives, i’m not really big on indie titles, I think the console exclusives are pretty good.

dyscode
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How I miss the PS2 days (and earlier), since then consoles just made themselves obsolete. Pop in a Disc / Cartridge and play? Forget it!

Michael Prymula
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I don’t miss the days where you couldn’t fix game breaking bugs.

ENAY
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ENAY

Name me at least 5 games on PS2 which had game breaking bugs that couldn’t be fix. Driver 3 doesn’t count 🙂

Michael Prymula
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True Crime: New York City, Enter The Matrix, Escape From Monkey Island, GTA: San Andreas, Tony Hawk’s Underground 2, Jax X Combat Racing, Spyro: Enter the Dragonfly, Jak 2 and all of the Tales games

ENAY
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ENAY

Good list, good list. I do remember Enter The Matrix and Escape From Monkey Island. However considering the thousands of games on PS2 that had few or no bugs at all. Almost every AAA game have bad bugs in them these days.

BAH!
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BAH!

People tend to forget that part. Though in fairness, major releases were less likely to to be as bad as they’ve been recently. Serious bugs were generally harder to find.

Michael Prymula
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I disagree with that, I read a forum post by someone who had worked as a tester for True Crime: New York City, he mentioned how Activision knew the game had at least 6,000 bugs in it, but they shipped it out anyways.

If you visit the Game Breaking Glitches page on TV Tropes, there’s quite a few PS2/GC/Xbox games on there.

BAH!
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BAH!

I didn’t say “guaranteed bug-free”, I said “less likely”.

Michael Prymula
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I don’t know about that, I remember the Xbox version of True Crime: NYC could only be beaten by using a cheat code because the developers accidentally used the wrong build when making that version of the game, causing it to be much more unstable then the other versions. Thank fuck I played that game on PC, otherwise I probably would’ve hated it, same with Driv3r, that game was a glitchy mess on PS2.

Kyle Pierce
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Kyle Pierce

True Crime NYC was unstable no matter what version you played. The gamecube version ran at like 15 fps, I ended up returning it the next day & kept playing TC:LA.

Michael Prymula
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I played the PC version and it was mostly fine since it came out a year after the console versions(it sometimes did crash to desktop, though that was easily remedied by saving often)

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

It wasn’t *too* bad on PS2. But I’m always going to be lenient on a game that lets me plant drugs on grannies….

How about Ghosthunter? I’ve never played more than an hour or so because it turns out you can’t save it on PS2. That sucks.

BAH!
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BAH!

As compared to Ubisoft and EA games regularly being nearly unplayable at launch in the last 5 years? I don’t recall ever coming across a single “big” game in the last three generations like that. Though my experience may be skewed since I was a Nintendo Kid, and my games were largely 1st-party stuff.

But even so, considering almost every game now has a massive day-one patch? I think that says something.

Michael Prymula
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There aren’t really any Ubisoft or EA games i’ve bought in the past five years that were unplayable for me at launch.

Better a day one patch then having the game be glitchy with no fix at all.

I honestly don’t mind day one patches, I just wish we’d had them sooner.

BAH!
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BAH!

Then you must have avoided Battlefield and AssCreed, for starters.

Also, it’s better they ship a playable product than rely on day-one patches. They don’t lack that capacity.

And I don’t want to exaggerate, so I’ll acknowledge that the problem isn’t as bad as it seems. But it can still be pretty bad at times.

Michael Prymula
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Assassins’s Creed yes I do avoid as i’m not a big fan of that franchise at all, Battlefield though i’ve been lucky with(though it probably helps that I only play the single player and never touched multiplayer)

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

There is something weird about the existence of massive day-one patches. They are finished weeks after the development of the release version is finished. So, why not delay the release a few weeks and have the game ready to be certified and shipped with the day-one patch already applied?

Michael Prymula
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Don’t know don’t really care to be honest, patches download pretty quick anyways.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Most of time. But some of the recent AAA releases have such huge day one patches that it becomes really annoying for people with limited data cap and/or slow internet.

Mr. Tastee
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Mr. Tastee

In the case of Ubisoft, I would chalk it up to greed. The devs just don’t have enough time in my opinion. The reason for that being Ubiconic just has to have an AC game every year. Although they finally seem to be easing up on it.

Of course the games always selling great despite technical problems probably doesn’t help.

For all their troubles, Nintendo does put many others to shame in terms of polish on their first party stuff. I won’t say 100% glitch free, but they at least have the self respect to not release a buggy broken unplayable mess.

BAH!
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BAH!

Fair enough on Ubisoft, but remember that ZombiU was also a dumpster fire at launch. Though the blame for that could also be placed with Nintendo and how they handled dev kit distribution. Still, I don’t think there would have been much problem with it being delayed a short while. In retrospect, it certainly wouldn’t have hurt.

Mr. Tastee
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Mr. Tastee

No doubt Nintendo made a lot of mistakes with the Wii U. Devs may have felt pressured to use the gamepad in some way, kinda like motion controls and the Wii. Zombi U certainly didn’t turn out as expected. I remember when it was Killer Freaks From Outer Space, before becoming another zombie game. That kinda killed my interest.

When third parties like Ubisoft quickly abandon ship as they did with Rayman Legends, that probably doesn’t help consumer confidence either.

Tamara Coleman
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Tamara Coleman
CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Nice attempt on trying to impress us with your Jimquisition fan art. But this impress no one. Next luck next time.

Tamara Coleman
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Tamara Coleman

Actually 3 people were impressed by it. Also ” next luck next time”? lol fail.

Concubinary Code
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A point Jim brought up in the video about how they just aren’t compressing data anymore really irks me. I remember saying the new infinite warfare bundle was going to be 130 gigs in a related thread here and it really is just unacceptable but it’s becoming more commonplace and I only see it getting worse. Some people have gotten into the thinking that the bigger the download means more gameplay too.

Hiroshi_Mishima
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Hiroshi_Mishima

Personally, I I don’t think ANY game has any right to be that big. There is just no justification for a game to be more than 60 gigs, max. Games like ARK and DOOM with their huge 10+ gig updates that don’t fix problems and often ignore player concerns or desires. I love the hell out of the new DOOM solo campaign, but all we get is multiplayer and map-making crap that many of us didn’t want or ask for which bloats the overall size of the game by at least twice what it would be.

Kyle Pierce
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Kyle Pierce
Yea, they just don’t give a shit anymore cause they don’t have to cram all the data on one or two disks. To me, it’s anti-consumer as hell. Forcing people to download that much data when some areas have forced data download limits each month & the fact that cox/comcast is enforcing a new data cap limit rule, basically either forcing you to pay more money each month or pay more money in overage fees. It’s fucking bollox. Maybe Comcast is paying the “AAA” games market to increase game size to increase their profits? In this day and age I… Read more »
Concubinary Code
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I wouldn’t say they’re working in tandem but it’s definitely something Comcast would capitalize on. I think the data has to do with publishers wanting to push out the games as quickly as possible or maybe it truly is just laziness. It’s inconsiderate to your audience either way. I remember when people said they didn’t know how they were going to fill up 500 gigs worth of harddrive space. I also think a lot of people are dismissing the data issue because you can just buy a bigger harddrive but you shouldn’t have to buy more stuff just so you… Read more »
Wellsy487
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Wellsy487

Agreed. I have a ps4 for ease of playing, but if I have to keep waiting for games to install I may as well try getting a good gaming PC connected to my tv.

Nathan Stapleton
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Hmm… That might be the reason I seem to be more and more drawn to playing handhelds. I’ve only had to delete things very rarely from my Vita or 3DS and usually it’s to get something new I had to make room by deleting a game I had completed and just left on there since I had plenty of room. It seems like every time I get a new PS4 game I have to delete 1 or more old games just to have space to play the new one, even if it’s a disc-based version I’m using.

RuRiK
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RuRiK
I am a console gamer and a Sony fanboy but even I find some of the things inexcusable, the installation and updates time and file sizes go completely against what consoles stand for however Jim seems to overlook that fact that the community is also partially to blame since they are the ones the keep on comparing consoles to PCs and how they should be more like PCs and how a game on PC has better visuals and unlocked frame rate and mods and all of that shit that makes a PC a PC. Consoles are consoles and PCs are… Read more »
prh99
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prh99

Communities say a lot of things (if Jim listened to his community everyone’s favorite games would get 10/10 scores and scores for unrelated games would figure in somehow cause consistency…), but that doesn’t absolve console manufacturers of doing a shitty job.

RuRiK
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RuRiK

I am not saying it does but sadly these days console manufacturers and game publishers get people to compile a chart of sorts of what users are saying they want on their websites and make decisions around those numbers.

Kintari
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Kintari

The community is to blame for thinking critically about how they’ve been shat and lied upon by console manufacturers?

The only ones to blame here are Sony, Microsoft, and self-proclaimed fanboys telling the rest of us to stop thinking about how console owners have been screwed.

Christoph Brinkmann
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Just wondering what the console die hards will do to defend their precious systems THIS time. I don’t have a problem with the consoles, used to have a 360 myself, but there’s being a fan and then there’s being a fanboy. Finding excuses for problems that never should’ve been there in the first place is the latter.

Landon Brown
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Landon Brown

“I don’t have a problem with the consoles”

Yeah you do. All pc gamers shit on consoles constantly and go into lenght of how superior the pc is for games, while ignoring its own crippling flaws

Haha, no
Guest
Haha, no

“All pc gamers”…. REALLY, now?

Landon Brown
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Landon Brown

Yep

Christoph Brinkmann
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No we don’t. You’d know that if you paid more attention to reality and less time overcompensating for certain inadequacies.

Landon Brown
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Landon Brown

Yeah, these comments and other around the internet speak for themselves about you pc gamers. Quick denying your elitist attitudes already. lol oh pc gamers.

Squinty
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Squinty

Pray tell, what “crippling flaws” would those be?

Landon Brown
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Landon Brown

shit ports, less cost effective ( you gotta spend money to build a good gaming pc instead of…you know…buying a standard pc. Lacks memorable exclusives that are not mmos, etc.

Squinty
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Squinty

2 of those you mentioned are just not true. The “you need more money” idea is a myth and a “good PC” is an awfully subjective matter. You could get console parity by spending the same amount of money on console-launch and now you can get better-than-console quality. I have no idea why this myth persists, the internet abounds of “kill your console” builds.
I agree that some ports are shitty but I wouldn’t call that crippling. They usually get fixed eventually and consoles have their share of poorly performing games, so it’s not that unique of a situation.

Ana Decker
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Ana Decker

2/10, try harder.

Landon Brown
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Landon Brown

Why should i try when you don’t?

Ana Decker
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Ana Decker

NO U

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

As a PC Gamer, I find you comment offensive and triggering.

Landon Brown
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Landon Brown

pc gamers be fragile.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

And sarcastic. ;op

Landon Brown
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Landon Brown

Oh i knew you were being sarcastic 😛

RuRiK
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RuRiK

it goes both ways really, this entire console vs PC thing is silly in the first place. Consoles shouldn’t try to be like computers but the community shouldn’t be pushing for consoles to be more like computers in the first place

Squinty
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Squinty

Consoles ARE computers though. They just happen to have a closed, tightly controlled ecosystem and you hook em up to your TV.

Kintari
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Kintari

> the community shouldn’t be pushing for consoles to be more like computers in the first place

The community isn’t asking for it. Sony is pushing it as a selling point as part of their marketing strategy.

RuRiK
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RuRiK

i constantly see comments and really ridiculous debates on how consoles aren’t as powerful as computers and how they should step up their game in order to compete with the PC market which is something they shouldn’t nor need to do. I am not saying that the manufacturers aren’t to be blamed for it but the community is also at fault. look at the PS4 Pro and the Scorpio fiasco, that came about due to “demand” for 4K gaming on consoles because PC can do it as well, out of everyone I know only 1 person has a 4K TV.

Michael Prymula
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Actually that came about due to AMD discontinuing the chip used for the current models of the consoles.

Wellsy487
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Wellsy487

Consoles have constantly been pushing for better graphics. That’s not new. It’s clear that in the last 10 years PC gaming has gotten far better, but consoles can’t compete with something that can get upgrades every 6 months.

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin
There’s little demand for 4K on the consumer side. 4K gaming is something the companies are pushing as important, despite relatively small market penetration of 4K tvs. In fact, a few polls have suggested many gamers want better framerates, not resolution. Seriously, I don’t know why Sony made it their primary talking point, when they even admit to using scaling techniques to pull it off for most of the games shown. No, the Pro and Scorpio exist because both companies underpowered their machines this gen, and developers have been up their asses about needing to compromise their games to get… Read more »
Khaelgor
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Khaelgor

You forgot what made consoles so attractive. Controllers 😛

ManuOtaku
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ManuOtaku

Easy of use-plug and play as well.

Kyle Pierce
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Kyle Pierce

I just bought a Gamesir G4s controller & it kicks ass.

FireroseNekowolf
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But modern controllers can plug into your PC now, as well.

Janio
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Janio

Yes, but plugging it in does not change how you need micro manage your inventory by dragging items, et cetera in most PC games.

Christoph Brinkmann
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Been able to use my XBox 360 in my previous PC, which was a hand me down back in 2010 running XP. Current one works like a charm as well. Made all the difference playing Witcher 3.

TheLawOfficesofDindu&Nuffin
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TheLawOfficesofDindu&Nuffin

I’m almost finished with Mafia 3. In retrospect, downloading it was a far more enjoyable experience than playing it.

Michael Prymula
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I think it’s a pretty damn awesome game.

zeeby
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zeeby

I got Dragon Age Origins on release… still downloading it. 74% done so far.

Wellsy487
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Wellsy487

I have the same problem. But I got it a week after release. It’s on 67%

Kintari
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Kintari

Take a break for a few days, it’ll be 80 before you know it!

Jivesh Hanoomaun
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Jivesh Hanoomaun

Huh…that fucking sucks. First game I’ve ever seen do this, every other game gave me full access to the content when the download completed. Then again this game isn’t exactly the picture of quality.

Michael Prymula
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I think it’s a very quality game, I think it’s better then Mafia 2.

Jivesh Hanoomaun
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Jivesh Hanoomaun

Huh…that fucking sucks. First game I’ve ever do this, every other game gave me full access to the content when the download completed. Then again this game isn’t exactly the picture of quality.

Dr. Mel
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Dr. Mel
As someone who prefers the PC platform, I can say that consoles have ceded a lot of ground on convenience, but they still have a plug-and-play aspect to them that PCs don’t. They’re essentially game-only PCs now, and while they’re REALLY slow at doing most things and riddled with ads in its proprietary OS, you don’t have to do anything other than put a disc in and wait for a game to happen at you. Yeah, installations and the “play now” thing is a problem on consoles but even if it’s just finding current GPU drivers or checking system spec… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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Well yeah, with my Asperger’s Syndrome there’s no way in hell I can build a PC, I don’t want to risk breaking something.

My current PC is mainly used for exclusives and for playing ports of sixth generation games.

Also some people just can’t learn things, I paid someone else to build a PC for me rather then waste time trying to do it myself.

Trav
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Trav
I never understand why the primary reason against PCs is the intimidation of building them. It implies that there is no middle ground between some lame supermarket bought thing and a mega hardcore built-using-reactor-core-components PC. There are loads of custom PC shops that only cost a bit more than buying and building yourself, ensuring a good build quality and guarantee it will work reliably. I’m an avid PC gamer but I don’t have much time for the hardware side of it. I got mine from PC Specialist here in the UK. You can pick the hardware yourself but they can… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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Well i’m guessing you don’t have Asperger’s Syndrome like I do, a lot of things are intimidating to me. Hell TotalBiscuit, the biggest PC critic of all time has admitted that he’s bad at building his own PC(due to having Dyspraxia) and had to get his wife to do it for him(after he accidentally bent a motherboard)

I don’t live in the U.K. myself, we PC specialist stores aren’t really around where I live(at least not anymore).

Dr. Mel
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Dr. Mel

You don’t have to build one, you can get a mid-range PC for close to what a console costs. Building one is cheaper if you want a cutting edge system, but even a 7 year old setup (or a cheap current setup) can run new releases today.

Michael Prymula
Member

That’s precisely what I did, I bought a pre-built Lenovo PC on Ebay for around 170 dollars. Works pretty well for me so far.

It does run new releases like Bombshell and Hatred, though not without having to severely tone down graphics settings.

Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

Building a PC can be stressful especially if you are dealing with really expensive parts for the first time. Once you get a couple builds under your belt it will start to feel like second nature.

Michael Prymula
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Not for me it won’t, not everybody can learn to do something like that. After my last custom built PC started showing it’s age I opted to just buy a pre-built one on Ebay for 170 dollars, saved me a lot of hassle.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

Just curious: have you asked any hardware shops if they can build a PC for you? That’s how I got my first PC, the shop assembled it for free since I bought all the hardware from them.

Charlie Koszulinski
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Charlie Koszulinski

Hey, that’s not a bad idea. I never thought to pay someone else to do it. I wonder if I could pay someone to get Fallout 3 to actually run on my PC? Also, I wonder if there’s a class you could take on PC building? That’d be as convenient as, oh say, a console, perhaps?

Michael Prymula
Member

I was able to do that because there’s a guy that lives only a few miles from me who runs a PC repair and upgrade shop out of his house, he’s known my family for a long time so he offered to build me a PC and I accepted his offer, he did a pretty good job, I had that PC for almost a decade.

Charlie Koszulinski
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Charlie Koszulinski

That’s pretty cool. Now, I’m not gonna build my own PC any time soon,but just out of curiosity, how much did the whole procedure cost you?

Michael Prymula
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I honestly don’t remember the exact amount, my parents actually paid for it since I needed my own computer for school anyways, but it couldn’t have been more then a couple hundred dollars.

Bashtarle
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Bashtarle
I dunno about the only thing that consoles really had over PC at least in my book was the easy of plugging them into your TV. HDMI pretty much torpedoed that advantage because at this point you are pretty much hard pressed to find a new PC/graphics card that doesn’t have an HDMI port. Probably the only nice thing I’ll ever say about HDMI 😛 Sadly I really don’t doubt that the future where you have to check to see if your console can handle (insert game X) isn’t all that far off. Especially if they really go crazy with… Read more »
Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

This is EXACTLY why my wife and I decided to switch to PC rather than update our consoles. The plug-and-play aspect is dead; thus the reason to stick with them.

Shame my Defiance character couldn’t be ported over, though….

Michael Prymula
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I love me some Defiance, loved playing it on 360.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

It just keeps getting better and better. :oD

Unnoticing Senpai
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Unnoticing Senpai

The worst part of all this isn’t even the download requirements (which hey probably have a reason for) but rather, as Jim said, avoiding compression of files.
I get some audiophiles might notice a difference if they have some high end speakers on their end, but why is it not an OPTION to download uncompressed? Not everybody has that luxury…
We certainly are given plenty of options in which we can part with our money, but not with the stuff that really matters.
BTW have you heard of CS:GO selling sprays?

Anton
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Anton

I feel like by this point, you’re either unaffected because you love CSGO despite the gun skin gambling and MT abuse, or you’re unaffected because you don’t play CSGO.

Unnoticing Senpai
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Unnoticing Senpai

True, but I figured it was something worth being called out on. Not to mention it sets yet another precedent for the rest of the industry to begin removing features in sequels only to have them sold for real money.

Anton
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Anton

Yeah, fair point.

Unnoticing Senpai
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Unnoticing Senpai

The worst part of all this isn’t even the download requirements (which hey probably have a reason for) but rather, as Jim said, avoiding compression of files.
I get some audiophiles might notice a difference if they have some high end speakers on their end, but why is it not an OPTION to download uncompressed? Not everybody has that luxury…
We certainly are given plenty of options in which we can part with our money, but not with the stuff that really matters.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

One minor thing that needs to be pointed out, with the constant downloading of large install files, it really hurts people with data caps.

Much of America, and Canada have very strict caps ranging from 250GB to 1TB per month, and overage either means fees, not being able to access the net, or even throttling your connection (though I know this was made illegal recently?)

I know I currently do not have a cap, but companies like AT&T do, and Comcast is rolling out a nationwide 1TB cap on Nov 1st.

Michael Prymula
Member

That’s not a console only issue though, it happens with PCs too. I’m just lucky i’m on a Verizon unlimited data usage plan.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Very, I was pointing out in general.

Dave Dogge
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Dave Dogge
Everyone just chill .. relax.. forget these 1st world problems and sit back and relax tonight at midnight or is it tomorrow night when we get our early play of Battlefield 1 for we numpties that pre-ordered the game……. wait … what’s this …? it’s 1am and I cannot play the game due to an install … Grrrrr ….. Grrrrrrrrr …. I HATE EA … may they come crashing DOWN due to this inconvenience ….. may they fall … Grrrrrr I am so ANGRY … I just want to play my GAME .. I am so full of HATE and… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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Battlefield 1 looks like shit to me, DICE should’ve done Bad Company 3 instead.

Aisha clanclan
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Aisha clanclan

It is just a re-skin of battlefield 4 but as long as people enjoy it does it does not matter .

Barloq
Member

What the actual fuck? Is Dark Souls 3 just a reskin of Dark Souls 2?

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

Ms Pac-man is just Pac-man with a bow?!

Aisha clanclan
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Aisha clanclan

Ya basically dark souls is a reskin of demons souls and so one but it does not make it any less fun.

Michael Prymula
Member

That’s one of TotalBiscuit’s big criticisms of it.

Aisha clanclan
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Aisha clanclan

He’s just disappointed he hyped himself up for a game that was never going to be what he wanted.
But it made me smile even big critics can fall to hype culture.

Michael Prymula
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No TB never fell to hype culture, he just expected the game to do more with it’s WW1 setting then it actually did.

Janio
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Janio

He may not fall for hype culture, but he sure does have strange way looking at tech and pricing ? Why is he expecting a new engine in each game that does more or better graphics or framerates then most enginemakers can getout of the hardware. Also his review machine is over the top expensive for most gaming population. His style on this is getting old.

Michael Prymula
Member

No it’s not getting old.

VoidOfOne
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VoidOfOne

It does beg the question: do people actually want things the way they say they do? Would this game better for it if it did fit the WW1 setting more? Or is the look alone enough?

I think of Battlefront, and my question may have been answered just by that.

Justin Graham
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Justin Graham

A more accurate WWI game might be interesting, but it certainly wouldn’t be Battlefield. Spending months on end in trenches when your worst enemies are the weather, trench foot, and mustard gas? Yikes.

Michael Prymula
Member

You can make the feel like it’s set in WW1 without it being like Verdun, BF1 has so many automatic weapons that it doesn’t feel like it’s in WW1 at all.

VoidOfOne
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VoidOfOne

Not to mention not being able to rely on your guns 100%. Yikes indeed.

Michael Prymula
Member

You wouldn’t have to go that far, but at least don’t make it feel like the WW1 theme is only painted on.

VoidOfOne
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VoidOfOne

Fair enough.

Aisha clanclan
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Aisha clanclan

Theirs no shame in it we all get hyped for games it’s part of having a passion for a hobby .
For example I’m really hyped for the English version of persona 5 .

Charlie Koszulinski
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Charlie Koszulinski

I got hype for Red Dead 2 and it was merely teased only today. I’m too easy.

Michael Prymula
Member

I wonder if that will finally mean a PC release for Redemption.

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