The Jimquisition: I Want To Review The Switch But A Dickhead Dev Accused Me Of Violating Trademarks

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A flashier title for this episode would’ve been “Bait & Switch” but I had to dispense with style for something that lays it all out there.

While people are having fun licking Switch cards and Breathing the Wild, your pal Jim Sterling is dealing with another – yes ANOTHER – utter chancer.

Let’s see what the fun folks at STICLI Games did when they tried to accuse a critical video of trademark violation.

Nevac
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Nevac

Just read the article on World Trademark Review regarding this topic. You can find it on Jim’s Twitter. Nice to see some wider discussion. Gotta chuckle at the well spoken, polite manner in which they describe Jim’s thoughts on the game,

‘he was critical of a number of perceived design flaws and pointed out a number of missing and unfinished game elements’.

I’m sure he did! Haha

BombsOverBagram
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BombsOverBagram

I found Digital Homicide’s case funny since it had nothing to do with any actual legal issues and more to do with the Romine idiot having sand in his vagina (was laughing for a good five minutes when he threw your tweet about the popcorn in his case TWICE). I don’t find these “developers” funny at all, I just find them utterly retarded, especially since they believe the EULA puts them above everyone and demands “negotiations” for people to cover their shit game.

mrhair
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mrhair

When your video went up, the game had “mixed” reviews on Steam as I recall (albeit, with even the “positive” reviews saying things like “Yes it is basically a tech demo and it is very buggy at EA Launch.. but I
think the ideas and direction this game is going is worth
supporting…..”)

Looking at the store page now … oh hey, it looks like the thing that every single person on the planet except the developer knew would happen, has happened. Fancy that.

Landy Alexander
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Landy Alexander

I watched like 5 minutes of the Airport Master vid. Got bored, closed it. STICLI shat the bed, and now the jimquisition video has 420k views. Let’s just say they made a mistake.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

They’ve become very silent on their forums now as well.

Jochem Sev
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Jochem Sev

Oh, it seems that they are still active and mindbogglingly stupid on their facebook page.

Just Some Guy
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Just Some Guy

Please stop doing “Life Hacxz” bits.

Jochem Sev
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Jochem Sev

Just because you don’t enjoy them doesn’t mean that others don’t.
The previous one was kinda meh in my opinion but I found this one to be quite funny.

Chris Topher
Member

It wasn’t great but I liked the switch Lickey joke…

Chris Wallace
Member

I strenuously disagree.

George
Member

What!! I think they’re funny in a weird sort of random way. lol

Landy Alexander
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Landy Alexander

The main problem i have with Jim’s life hacks is that they aren’t stupid enough. Mr gear (the 1000 degree knife guy) has dozens of videos, each with ideas a thousand times stupider than jims. And those each have a million views.

Maniate
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Maniate

Maybe stop infringing on copyrights, Jim. Do you have copyright permission to show He-Man? What about Coca-Cola, Tom Hanks and Phoenix Wright? There is no good guy in this fight. Stop shitting over copyrights.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

Oh God.
Are you serious.
Are you for fucking serious.
One. You’re mixing up A LOT of things here. There’s copyright (okay, we can say He-Man is technically a jaywalking-level copyright infringement), there’s trademark (Coca-Cola) and there’s likeness (Tom Hanks). And they’re governed with quite different laws.
Two. Are you seriously equating showing a few frames of a TV show, which in no way possible can provide an experience anywhere similar to said TV show (ergo, Jim isn’t competing with the creators) and a person sending a FRAUDULENT request to remove one’s video and potentially destroy their channel?

FireroseNekowolf
Member

He uses them because Youtube’s system is such cocking shit that it’s actually a way around it.

He violates a system to break the shitty system that defaults to a “guilty until proven innocent” attitude. If it was to actually be fixed and not be shit, then he’d stop using them.

iThinkMyCatIsAFlea
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iThinkMyCatIsAFlea

Not sure if cereals?

Some Guy In A Waistcoat
Guest

Super cereals. Last time I saw this fellow was in the Wild Card comments, where he suggested that maybe the real reason Jim doesn’t get sent review copies is because he lets filthy identity politics colour his opinions.

Maniate
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Maniate

What’s difficult for you? Did you think Jim was the creator of He Man or has permission to use Hanks’ likeness?

Michael Prymula
Member

wow you’re so fucking stupid it’s hilarious

Maniate
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Maniate

Then it’ll be simple to point out where I’m wrong. You are aware that copyrights exist, yes? You are aware that Tom Hanks has the ability to control the use of his likeness,and Coca Cola their trademarks, yeah? Jim is not reviewing, critiquing or parodying these copyrighted or trademarked materials I mentioned in this video, yet he still used them.

Michael Prymula
Member

Yes i’m aware, but you don’t seem to know what copyright actually means.

Get real, Coca Cola and Hanks have better things to do then waste their time with Jim, you are a fucking idiot.

Maniate
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Maniate

If I didn’t know what copyright meant then you’d easily be able to explain where I’m wrong, instead of attempting to insult me. As far as I know, it is the right to control reproduction, broadcast and publishing of your work.

Michael Prymula
Member

Well you clearly know nothing at all dumbass

iThinkMyCatIsAFlea
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iThinkMyCatIsAFlea

Google Fair Use “Examples of fair use in United States copyright law include commentary, search engines, criticism, parody, news reporting, research, and scholarship.”

Maniate
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Maniate
That’s right. You can use copyrighted images while commenting, criticizing, reporting or parodying the work in question. Copyright laws exist to protect the rights of creators of works to control distribution of them. Fair use was established by the courts to allow critics and others to use bits of the works that they need to do their jobs. You’re not allowed to use any copyrighted material out there just because you’re providing comment on something. You’re allowed to use it if you’re providing commentary on it. I can’t show the entirety of Moonlight on my youtube channel if I’m providing… Read more »
Maniate
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Maniate
I know what fair use is. Jim isn’t reviewing He-Man. He’s not providing commentary on Phoenix Wright. You are allowed to use copyrighted materials for parody, commentary or critique of THEM. I can’t broadcast clips of Hidden Figures in my video about 18th century enlightenment art. I can broadcast clips of Hidden Figures if I’m talking about Hidden Figures. Fair use gives you the permission to use copyrighted stuff for those things because it is necessary to use them to make a critique or provide commentary about the work from which they came. It isn’t necessary to use Tom Hanks’… Read more »
Linkfan112
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Linkfan112

look up his “copyright deadlock” video if you missed it. explains why he does this.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

That isn’t why hes doing it though. Jim has always used imagery to underscore points he’s making since the very start of the Jimquisition or at least from the point of the vids on the Escapist.

Mitchell
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Mitchell

The problem is that you think that he needs to be reviewing/critiquing Phoenix Wright (for example) in order to use that imagery. Phoenix Wright need not be the primary subject of his work in order for his use of that material to still be protected.

Maniate
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Maniate

That’s not how it works. I can’t set up a channel, monetize it and then upload all of Jim’s videos while talking a little bit about the newest vacuum cleaner I bought and like. Fair use allows for the material that is needed for the task of reviewing, commenting or parodying at hand. It does not elevate the acts of giving critique, providing comment or performing parody as sacred things which allow the use of anything out there while you’re doing it.

Maniate
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Maniate

Absolutely wrong. Fair use exists to allow critics and writers to cover something. You can’t really review a game or write about one too well if you can’t show it. Therefore, the courts allow you to use the material which you need to use to get the job done. You don’t need phoenix wright if you’re not focused on that work.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Yeah except he’s using it in a transformative context as he’s using said imagery to illustrate point he is making. Like he does in almost all of his videos.

Some Guy In A Waistcoat
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Fair use also makes provision for transformative works. Using a clip from something unrelated to the original material for the purposes of parody is well within the purview of fair use. For example – if I’m reviewing a game where a character constantly uses the word ‘surely’, and I splice in a clip from Airplane! with Leslie Nielson replying “I do. And stop calling me Shirley” – that is covered under fair use. (Fun semi-related fact: The context in which materials themselves are viewed can also count as transformative – I remember a case in Georgia where a judge ruled… Read more »
Lloyd
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Lloyd

And unless I’m mistaken the Jimquisition episodes are not monetized unless someone like Nintendo or Konami tries to claim the video, which is why he came up with the copyright deadlock as a work around.

Alex Wheatley
Member

Something struck me: *even if* the EULA is somehow a magical legal document which actually stands up (and it’s a big if!), you still only violated the EULA, you didn’t violate any trademarks. If this does ever end up in court, it should be a pretty easy summary judgement.

Landy Alexander
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Landy Alexander

The problem is that there is no such thing as easy summary judgement. The digital homicide case was super clear cut, and it still took a year in court to resolve.

Alex Wheatley
Member

That was more due to court delays than difficulty over the case. It took a year because things in that district take that long. I hold that a summary judgement can still be easy, that just doesn’t necessarily make it quick or cheap.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

Here’s something I wonder.
Can we report these wankers to Valve? I reckon the “non-refund” EULA part isn’t compatible with Steam’s own TOS.

Jochem Sev
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Jochem Sev

There is a flag on the store page that you can click to report games to Steam that break it in some way. If Steam even does anything with it is the question…

UncleBartek
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UncleBartek

There’s nothing to report, if they were trying to collect the refunds directly from customers, then maybe. But as it is now it’s just a moronic non-enforcable statement that show how dumb they are 😛 By posting a game on Steam you agree with Steam’s TnC that specifies that your game is subject to refunds. You can’t just opt out of it ffs… 😛

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Yeah there is part four of their EULA violates fair use laws. Part nine of their EULA violates Steam’s refund policy.

jedimastercosmin
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jedimastercosmin

At least DH had some mindless and idiotic determination with their claims. These guys are just pathetic.

Simon
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Simon
So the problem is Google allowing these sorts of spurious takedown requests because that’s just easier than exercising any kind or judgement or assessment on their validity? Or because their dispute resolution is overly biased towards the takedown requester for the same reason? In that case and if you aren’t overly interested in ad revenue (as Jim isn’t) might I suggest switching to another service that isn’t as hostile towards video publishers? I see this particular video is still up so I can’t see the problem in this instance other than the threatening emails which are actually just funny and… Read more »
drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

The only video series Jim doesn’t monetise is the Jimquistion. Everything else however is. One of the Jimquisition vids on the Escapist was all about AD block. i don’t know how much gets from them but does monetise a far amount of his content.

Miles Saintborough
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Miles Saintborough

But would most of Jim’s followers switch over when he does? While YouTube is bad with this stuff, most of Jim’s audience is on there.

George
Member

Well… that what people thought when he left the escapist as well.
Although a jump from youtube as a platform would be much bigger.

Simon
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Simon
Jim has his own website and a good chunk of his viewers and supporters go to TheJimquisition and Patreon already. I suggested on Patreon recently (but Jim doesn’t read comments there i don’t think) that he could maintain a minimum presence on YouTube to let people know he’s still around and so new people can still discover him (which I’m ever so glad I did). Succumbing to the “YouTube is the only way” mantra is exactly what YouTube and Google want. You can’t endlessly whinge about Google while deciding to stick with them and continue to use their services. If… Read more »
Joshua Chap
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Joshua Chap

This is laughable in a court of law. They would be laughed out of the court and likely even forced to pay everyone’s legal fee just for wasting everyones time for not even understanding the basics of how Trademarks work.

Jack Chameleo
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Jack Chameleo

I havent commented here on this subject in years, but your obsession with small-potatoes asset flippers from the stix is nauseating and a distraction from more important issues with big-name developers. Get over yourself, Jim! Fuck these hacks making bad games out of their garages! YOU are the one bringing these lazy, covetous indie devs consumer traffic with your rambling videos. Focus on targets that will actually help consumers instead of your own ego!

Anthony Pace
Member

As we all know the more someone tells you a game’s shit and the devs are arseholes, the more people buy their products and support them as we’ve seen with DH, Kobra Studio and Digpex becoming the industry titans they are now.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS
It may be more complicated than that. They could be getting buys with no playtime or less than a minute, if Trading Cards are just given outright for buying or starting the executable. Then the usual tracking software may not be able to track it due to lack of data, unless they just spider the public libraries of all of Steam’s users. I don’t know how it works due to lack of research. I also don’t know if STICLI uses this model of money hoarding (it is far from being a business), but coverage may be having the inverse effect… Read more »
drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Whether a developer is large or small still makes it an important issue. Sticli games antics effects consumers as they are blatantly trying to go against Valve’s refund policy. Plus on many occasions Jim’s covered how things such as this can effect people using certain platforms and exposes that behavior. His video might not be about EA, Nintendo, Ubisoft or Konami but the subject matter is still important.

I AM A TENT
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I AM A TENT

Are you not entertained?

Jack Chameleo
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Jack Chameleo

Honestly? NO, I AM NOT. That’s why I refuse to subscribe to his channel. He’d rather jerk himself off, acting like a child, picking fights with asset-flipping bums and making fun of indie hackjob videogames NOBODY PLAYS, than consistently chip away at companies whose tactics are sullying the industry for consumers. I like Jim. He’s clever and he’s done good things. But shooting fish in a barrel all the time, dumping on shitty games made by nobodies, isn’t furthering the cause for a better games industry.

George
Member

The only problem with that though is that the vast majority of “players of video games” dive into the indi and PC/MAC/Smartphone scene. The big name devs are not where the vast majority of modern gaming is happening.

It’s now more important that ever to call out these small potato assholes.

Miles Saintborough
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Miles Saintborough

Uh, no he isn’t. Jim trashing these bad games doesn’t give said games any more revenue than they were already. As TB mentioned in a recent video, not all publicity is good. Sounds like you’re getting personally offended by Jim showcasing how bad indie devs can get towards content creators. Hitting too close to home?

Miliardo
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Miliardo

The size of the dragon is by no means a direct measure of its insidiousness. Further, Jim establishes, inadvertently or purposefully, information for up-and-coming developers on what to and what not to do. That’s invaluable for someone who’s starting out and willing to learn and listen. When they don’t, we get a great video. When they do, we get a game that’s maybe worth playing.
That’s being helpful.

Kev' Bryant
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Kev' Bryant

I’m confused! So, what’s the size of Jim’s “dragon” got to do with this….

Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh
I think the highlighting spurious taken down notices (in any form) or theft of revenue is important regardless of the dev that is doing it. I go so far as to say it’s even more important when it’s an Indie Dev. Nothing Jim says is going to get Nintendo to change their ways and stop stealing YouTubers ad-revenue, but he can impact the business of smaller Indie Devs out to steal consumers money. Case in point, Digital Homicide. And he did just make 3 or 4 episodes almost in a row about Nintendo and their shitty business practices and he… Read more »
Simon
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Simon
I have to agree. I’d much rather Jim focus on worthy titles that actually deserve recognition rather than wasting time, effort and energy on this constant stream of trash highlighting how pathetic they are. I like it when Jim calls out the big studios for crap like micro transactions but reviewing so much crap like Fur Fun and this crappy AirPort sim make it seem as though he just likes having something to whinge and rant about. Obviously garbage titles clogging up Steam is a problem which is all the more reason we need someone like Jim to help us… Read more »
Jack Chameleo
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Jack Chameleo

I could not have said it better myself.

Senior Gamer
Member

I dont know … focusing on pointing out bad, shady developers seems like a good thing for sonsumers.

Didi Polenta
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Didi Polenta

I second this comment

Jecht342
Member

The thing I’d love to see Jim comment on is some of the big issues we’re hearing. The JoyCons desync issue, the possibility that the dock scratches the thing, etc. It’s hard to know how widespread these issues are.

Anthony Pace
Member

The title does say he wants to talk about the Switch so I’d imagine it’s coming. Maybe in a JQ, maybe in something on the site.

Jack Chameleo
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Jack Chameleo

He was being facetious.

iThinkMyCatIsAFlea
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iThinkMyCatIsAFlea

There’s a compilation video on YouTube (Nintendo Switch painful launch) showing a lot of the problems users are having with the Switch.

Chris
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Chris

I think it’s worth mentioning: I don’t watch jim’s Jimpression videos for the most part. I imagine a huge chunk of his fans are the same given average views for those videos vs Jimquisition episodes. Which mean, regardless of how shit a game is, I’d argue the majority of Jims fans and the community at large doesn’t notice when he critiques a game unfavourably. BUT every time they do DMCAs, or this new shit, a Jimquisition happens, and suddenly A LOT more people know. I don’t understand how these people can completely miss this fact time and again!

Weasel Biggs
Member

Not every indie dev follows Sterling, and some are adorably convinced things will be different for them.

UncleBartek
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UncleBartek

Someone finally talking about the fucked docked mode and the durability system in BotW. I still think its the most enjoyable open world ive played since the Witcher 3 but fuck, the tone of the coverage makes it aound like it’s a perfect game. Thanks Jim!

P.S. : I totally disagree about the stamina thing tho. It’s one of the best things about how exploration is structured in that game 😛

Michael Prymula
Member

all those perfect review scores have me very wary, I remember something similar happened with Bioshock Infinite, at first everyone was orgasming all over it, then a number of people realized that the game actually had quite a few problems, so I can see that happening with BOTW as well.

UncleBartek
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UncleBartek
It’s exactly the same situation. Both games are really great but have some significant problems. The problem with modern scoring systems is that they don’t really reflect how unique the game is.To me both BotW and watch dogs 2 are strong 8s but while WD2 gets it for being a game that delivers good quality on everything, BotW gets it for being an incredible game with some significant annoying problems. When reviewers want to convey that the game is a really unique experience they elevate the score like this. Because if truly unique experiences like BotW or Infinite get just… Read more »
Andrzej Sugier
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Andrzej Sugier

I find the “seal” score additions some reviewers use to be really helpful. Like, 8 and 8 with “seal of incredible originality” are different scores, and convey both general quality of a product and any standalone qualities. Of course ut only work if you use them sparingly.

Michael Prymula
Member

That’s why I would prefer scores in game reviews go the way of the Dodo, Metacritic has far too much influence.

DreamingTheseDays
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DreamingTheseDays

Fantastic Jimquisition as always, shame about these developers time and time again but I love when Jim says “learn some discipline or be disciplined”. Brilliant stuff. Here’s a lifehackz for those developers who don’t quite understand: if your game is criticised, learn from it and make a better game next time.

Polishfury5000
Member

Life Hacxz is quickly becoming one of my favorite bits.

Here’s hoping Jim’s got plenty of hackx’z in his pocket for whenever Ubisoft and Konami aren’t actively fucking up.

Miliardo
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Miliardo

I disagree, but I think there’s room for improvement. I called both Life Hack segments’ gags so far, and I find that to generally be a poor decision in comedy. I am also a person who finds comedy structured around generating embarrassment for oneself to be a similarly poor comedic decision, and willful embarrassment is all I see here. The segment needs to find its voice, and perhaps be separated from the largely critique-focused Jimquisition. This style of comedy also works better in a group, rather than as a solo project. Possible Podquisition material, maybe.

Polishfury5000
Member

Each they’re own, but I’d rather see these bits kept bite sized when there isn’t anything else available to report on.

As someone who used to spend time perusing Cracked and BuzzFeed, (where this whole life hack culture stuff seemed to come from), I’m finding joy out of these parody bits.

Miliardo
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Miliardo

I agree that they should be kept bite-sized. The gag works better in a small format, and you never want a joke to overstay its welcome. But, I claim no readership of Buzzfeed, and I haven’t cracked open a Cracked article in quite possibly a year. It’s a great site, I just don’t think of it anymore when I want some quick entertainment.
I think I’ll go check in with Seanbaby.

Polishfury5000
Member

Ha ha, I do the same thing.

If I ever go to Cracked anymore, it’s because I clicked a link from Seanbaby’s website.

In truth, I’ve never been much of a buzzfeed guy, but sometimes those get shared on Facebook by friends, and for a while I found it impossible to escape.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

Really? I thought the jokes were quite forced, more annoying than funny.

Polishfury5000
Member

I think that’s the point. Kind of parodying the whole life hack culture that you’ll see on buzzfeed or shared on Facebook.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

The hilarity continues on the Airport Master steam forums. Any topics posted before Jim’s vid went up have been moved to their own seperate section regarding Youtube.

They’re also very clearly trying to spin the interactions between them with how they are referencing them.

Jochem Sev
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Jochem Sev

Oh, this could get much worse. So much worse.
You see, when you buy a game and ask for a refund, you get all your money back. However Valve keeps their cut of the money from the sale it seems, that deficit will logically need to come out of the publisher’s pocket.
So, some enterprising Steam users are now advocating on buying the game, leaving a negative review and then asking for a refund. Tanking that whole Review score even further and costing the dev money due to Steam’s cut from the sale.

iThinkMyCatIsAFlea
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iThinkMyCatIsAFlea

That is fantastic if true!

Andrzej Sugier
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Andrzej Sugier

That’s horrible if its true. It would be harrasment, many people doing that could ruin people’s life, and being an asshole is not enough to justify being ruined financialy. Especially if they have significant others and/or children.

Darkzentai
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Darkzentai

How do you find these people I swear your luring them in ?
You just finished one argument and now you got another how do you do it ?

Денис Фролов
Member

Because Jim is one of few reviewers who dives into shit games on daily basis. Also, maybe some of those idiots consider it to be some sort of advertisement for them. Too bad they don’t know when to stop.

La Chica Incognita
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La Chica Incognita

Despite Jim’s viewer base being moderately sized his influence on PC gaming in general makes him a target. Nobody cares what Pewdiepie, Jacksepticeye or the likes of Markiplier have to say about games or gaming in general but when Jim speaks people (including games media outlets) listen and repeat.

Darkzentai
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Darkzentai

I find these shit indie devs target Jim as they know he will cover them .
As the only way people will see their game is from people like Jim covering them .
It’s was proved by TB they don’t show up on steam unless you go looking for them .
If you look for them then steam thinks you like this stuff .

George
Member
At the risk of sounding like a fan boy…(sorry) I honestly think that it is the fact that these people are are knowingly and deliberately marketing shit products to rip people off and make a quick buck. Jim doesn’t let shit like that slide either at the AAA or Indi level. And when you call out shady people doing shady shit, those same people get really offended and [♪SKELETON WARRIORS♫] just by the nature of who they are. Jim has arguably made his carrier out of identifying shit like this and telling the world so that these fuckers are at… Read more »
Darkzentai
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Darkzentai
Good points and well made but I put it to you does chasing these shit stains of developers really help us or the games industry? Hands up children who would purchased any of these assets flips if Jim had not stop you ? In fact I say Jim is hurting the industry by covering them because jim has limited time which I think would be better served covering good games for example invisigun heros a good game TB has been desperate to promote. But Jim was more interested in having a fight with crappy asset flippers than helping a good… Read more »
Miliardo
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Miliardo
“[D]oes chasing these shit stains of developers really help us or the games industry?” Yes. It doesn’t help overmuch as a means of depriving the poor users on Steam from buying absolute tripe, but it does help. Moreover, it teaches new developers what is and isn’t passable. You have to remember that what is common sense for you or me isn’t for other people, whether by ignorance of content expectations or by a narrow focus defeating one’s natural self-criticism. Further, it helps consumers understand that they should expect better than what he highlights as being unworthy of the dollars that… Read more »
Darkzentai
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Darkzentai

Your saying instead of being saviour to the weak he chosen to be sheriff to the wicked so to speak .
The problem is by steams own figures it’s only gotten worse by that stead he has failed but yet the one year of steam green light good stuff Jim has done has done more to help the industry than his years of chasing shit sellers.

George
Member
Here’s my response to your response of my response. 😛 I think that the criticisms you mention were one of the reasons why “green light good stuff” became a thing in the first place. He did say that he wanted to expand into building people up. But overall it’s hard to measure the impact that his critical work on these shit developers has had. I don’t think sales are the best measure, rather it’s changes in Valve’s policies regarding green light or people’s overall attitudes. He has to claimed to have coined the term “asset flip.” There is also the… Read more »
Joshua Chap
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Joshua Chap

well that sucks for them, because anyone he asks for a refund they have to personally return. Steam offers the refund but it’s the developers or company that has to pay the refund in the end not Steam. So if that was the case they likely fucked themsleves.

BAH!
Member
BAH!

So the question is this: If Youtube doesn’t have any proper process for handling this mess (as Leonard French seems to believe), how will it end? Can you simply wait it out, or is there actual legal shit you’ll have to wade through in order to resolve it?

George
Member

I watched that video too. I also appreciated his observation that this whole mess may be a lot deeper than what google thought it was at first.

anything butthat
Member

What in the world were they thinking? Like, seriously. You’d have to be blind, deaf, and dumb to come up with that bullshit. That’s like if I were to hop onto YouTube and start accusing Jim of copying my style of video for his “jimquisition” videos verbatum, despite never uploading a single video in that style. How dumb do you have to be to come up with ANY of what they say or claim?

Jochem Sev
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Jochem Sev

It’s just amazing how many ‘companies’ try to beach themselves on Jim’s glorious body.
Can someone please explain this trend to me? Because it looks fun and I want some of that too!

Appretaur
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Appretaur

“Look at this arrogantly worded bollocks. Fucking smarmy chumps…!”

Yet… to my untrained eye, the actual wording of all that text looks legitimately indistinguishable from that of any other game’s EULA that I’ve bothered to casually parse, such as World of Warcraft and the like. It’d only look to me like it’s the attempt to post self-serving stipulations that ignore the master rules of the law elsewhere that’s the arrogant part about it. Now, it better turn out that I’m missing something here…

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Well Jim even skipped over an error that he could have mentioned. The EULA clearly 3D party videos not 3rd party and due to be something intended as being legally binding that wording is rather important.

HelixShade
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HelixShade

To answer a question you asked on your Youtube Page –

Yes Jim, you should reupload the video. Probably best to show them you’re not afraid, especially since if they are DigiHom levels of stupid, it’ll get laughed out of court.

The Outsider
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The Outsider

Wait, Jim Sterling made the Nintendo Switch Dildo?! Holy shit Nintendo!

Benj
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Benj

BARTLEBY!!!!

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