The Jimquisition: Nintendo – A Shit Distributor And Fuckheaded Toymaker

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Nintendo’s manufactured scarcity is a commonly known deal, and it’s just getting beyond ludicrous.

The NES Classic is the latest farce, shipping to stores in pitiful numbers despite well-known demand.

Basically, Nintendo’s a fucked up toymaker thinking everything it makes is a goddamn Hatchimal, whatever the hell THAT is!

Exley97
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Exley97

Here’s a question: how do Nintendo shareholders feel about this sort of thing? Doesn’t the intentional reduction of inventory have a potential negative impact on company revenue and even earnings?

ahmad
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ahmad

Can someone tell me the name of the two songs in this video?

George
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George

The intro is, “Born Depressed,” by Drill Queen.

ahmad
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ahmad

Yes, thank you.

Do you know the one at the end?

Jpkurihara
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Jpkurihara

I might be wrong, but I believe it’s a lyricless section of Born Depressed as well.

ahmad
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ahmad

It is.
thank you.

Kyle Pierce
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Kyle Pierce

As much as I love Nintendo products, the company really is run by a bunch of old timey fuck heads.

Appretaur
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Appretaur

About the three-days delay for the European release of Sun/Moon: Well, I think we should at least spare a more empathetic and understanding outlook on globalized business as it would appear in Nintendo’s perspective. Europe is so far away from Japan geologically, and there are a lot of timezone differences to take into account when timing releases… Nintendo probably just assumed that there was a three-day timezone difference between the two areas.

😉

iThinkMyCatIsAFlea
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iThinkMyCatIsAFlea

Trying to get your mitts on the NES Classic is like trying to find a pc game related article on pcgamer dot com atm. It’s affiliatingly impossible. Go take a look.

circularlogic88
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circularlogic88

I’m disappointed there were no Chains of Love

circularlogic88
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circularlogic88
I used to work for one of the big video game stores and I can tell you, Nintendo absolutely resented having to do business with us. Want to know why the limited edition Pikachu 3DS XL was in such scarcity when Pokemon X/Y came out? Nintendo gave each of our stores somewhere between 2 to 4 of them and wouldn’t allow for them to be pre-orderable items, meaning that unless you were a hardcore die hard fan who was up on all of the very specific Pokemon news, you probably didn’t even know it existed. I have friends who still… Read more »
Gregory McIntyre
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Gregory McIntyre

oh man the display model thing. in an ideal world we’d have a magical machine to automatically make display models appear and disappear based on stock but we don’t. I work for staples.

we sell stuff, we are told what to put on display and where. There’s a difference between not carrying an item and being out of stock. customers suck.

Jpkurihara
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Jpkurihara

You’d have expected it to be a thing by now.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Ok, so what’s the point of the “Here’s a TV that looks like an apple” clip? What is the joke there? Everytime Jim uses it I’m left out of the loop.

circularlogic88
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circularlogic88

Here’s a TV that looks like an Apple….as in an allusion to AppleTV. As in, it was a Nintendo exec trying to make a joke and not being particularly funny.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Ah… I suppose.

BAH!
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BAH!

I think it’s just something he’s latched onto. Kind of like what’s-his-face saying “Life’s good when you’re a Ninja block”. Just stupid Nintendo stuff.

Jarin
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Jarin

It’s a general callback to Nintendo execs being a bit thick.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

How?

Jarin
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Jarin

I’m not good at explaining things (I typically “get” social references, but I’m just far enough off-norm that I couldn’t say why), but I think there was a better explanation around this comment thread somewhere.

Muddy Scarecrow
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Muddy Scarecrow

Honestly I don’t think there is a joke. I think it’s just a really weird and hokey line that Jim finds funny. Like Ninja Block as BAH! suggested. As well as “Make the bad guys cry like an anime fan on prom night” or “you’re a kid now you’re a squid now.” I don’t think it means anything. It’s just dumb and he loves reminding us that it exists.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I see it as Jim mocking Nintendo for stating the obvious and sounding super serious about silly things.

Weresquirrel
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Weresquirrel

I can confirm it goes back a fair while longer. My brother and I used to work for Currys back when the Wii was first released, and the store only got one console. One that he bought himself. Not by any underhanded means, he was in store the day pre-orders were being taken and he put his deposit in first.

When the wii fit was a thing, we got laughably small numbers of them and had to field many accusations of ruining Christmas because of the lack of stock we were given.

Zippydsmlee
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This is why exclusivity is bat crap crazy, it stagnates new ideas and general advancement/refinement in everything all the while stagnating the flow of information and turning the market into a swamp.. Open up IP and give the IP owner a default 30% cut of any revenue made off it and turn trademarks into manufacturers stamps with the who/what/when/where info in them so people can support who they like without the suits and lawyers Jerry-rigging the market via artificial means. IE if you are not making revenue then you are exempt this means have page ads and donation ads,ect you… Read more »
Terriosaurus Hex
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Terriosaurus Hex

I’m still having trouble finding a new N64 sold anywhere 🙁

Curse you, Nintendo.

Curse.

You.

BAH!
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BAH!

Jokes aside, you wanna know something really dumb? Actual new in-box NES consoles are more common than the NES Mini, and they’ve been out of production for over 20 years.

Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

Seems like Nintendo is trying to out De Beers the De Beers

Kyle Pierce
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Kyle Pierce

NintenDe Beers

whiskytangofoxtrot
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whiskytangofoxtrot

To any gaming journalists reading this: When the Switch comes out, can you please focus your coverage on actual units sold rather than whether or not it’s sold out at retailers? You can make nearly anything sell out if you restrict quantities enough, and all that kind of coverage does is feed into situations like this one.

Sapphire Crook
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Sapphire Crook

By that metric every yard sale ‘sells out’ everything that’s sold.

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09philj
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09philj

They don’t make nearly enough of the special editions either. While it’s easy to find the special editions of most Ubisoft and Activision games sitting forlornly in the backs of game shops months after release, Nintendo’s go faster than you can say “bloody scalpers”.

Anton
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Anton

So what you’re saying is, Nintendo’s are ACTUALLY special, haha.

…not that I condone that, I’m just saying that it’s pretty silly to see a “limited/special/collectors edition” sitting in a Kmart bargain bin.

BAH!
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BAH!

Despite my oft-unfulfilled desire for such items, that’s actually the one thing I can’t fault Nintendo on. When they say “limited edition” they FUCKING MEAN IT.

oshigoroshi
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oshigoroshi

i live in a undisclosed third world country, and this is basically how every nintendo product gets sold over here, first come first served basis, for its entire generation i have only seen one 3ds, and that is the xl one, you know the one without the power adaptor, i really have to go out of my way if i want to buy a nintendo product, convenience is the name of the game, and steam is the current champion of it.

RaikuNH
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RaikuNH

I fear for the Switch. I’m surprised you never mentioned the Wii. Nintendo was really bad with that one. Remember, someone died trying to get one. Look up “Hold your wee for a Wii”. The person who died didn’t even win the system.

Kyle Pierce
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Kyle Pierce

People died when the PS4 came out, too. People are just terrible.

RaikuNH
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RaikuNH

Any articles on it? All I can find is the BLOD.

Kyle Pierce
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Kyle Pierce

I remember seeding reports if stabbings and shooting over PS4s after it came out. Dont remember where though.

BAH!
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BAH!
Honestly, I don’t buy the “scarcity creates demand” argument as a sensible or even beneficial reason for what Nintendo (and other manufacturers) have done. Nintendo must know that the VAST majority of the nostalgia-fueled products they make will sell like hotcakes. New IP’s and such? Maybe not, but that NES Mini was guaranteed to sell out at 100x the supply. There is no way Nintendo could not have know that. Literally no way. So if they’re not doing this to create “artificial scarcity” because there is literally no fucking reason to do so – and doing so actually provides no… Read more »
Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

Just look at the price of diamonds, they are made from one of the most plentiful elements on the planet and even in their form they aren’t all that rare. However thanks to a nearly complete stranglehold on the market they have had their price and availability painstakingly manipulated and maintained for the better part of a century.

On the plus side it would appear that the newest methods of creating artificial diamonds (from one of the most plentiful elements on earth) is apparently nearly indistinguishable from natural diamonds. Suck it De Beers!

BAH!
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BAH!
True, but it’s not the same in this or other retail situations. Nintendo cannot possibly benefit in any way they wouldn’t be benefiting now. Sales are sales, doesn’t matter when. And since the price is not being artificially inflated (it’d be $60 MSRP with Nintendo making whatever profit they are, regardless of the supply), that argument goes out the window, too. The only possibly reason is that they’re creating an appetite for Christmas shopping. But the problem with that is, again, the appetite was already there. If they wanted December to be their big sale month, they could have easily… Read more »
Billy Bissette
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It is most likely a mix of reasons. Nintendo *is* paranoid about sitting on unsold product. This is a driving force for Nintendo. Nintendo is also somewhat concerned about stores sitting on unsold product. This isn’t as strong as the paranoia about Nintendo sitting on its own product. It affects some of their production and distribution, but you don’t see Nintendo undershipping restocks of a new Mario game even when it means a store is going to end up with 20 unsold copies sitting on the shelves for the next three years. Artificial scarcity is also likely a reason. Nintendo… Read more »
Absolutfreak
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The artificial scarcity theory would hold a lot more water in my mind if Nintendo would suddenly have an abundance of them out on store shelves a short time after people were whipped up into a frenzy after the initial release.

diamond
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diamond

You underestimate how out of touch Nintendo is with reality, these are the guys that think copyright claiming videos on Youtube is a good idea.

AS actually does benefit Nintendo, as it ensures the next shipment will also sell-out ultra-fast.

ponyhammer
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ponyhammer

I’m one of the lost and the damned thanks for the sympathy I work at Tesco and I don’t blame Nintendo one bit their here to make money it’s a bit of psychology the same critics would use click bait .

I blame joe public if they would stop falling for it companies would stop doing it .
I blame them for their attitude.

It not Nintendo’s fault it your jim for falling for it .

BAH!
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BAH!

It’s a two-way street. But the shitty part is that, for Nintendo, such tactics wouldn’t ever be necessary. They have a dedicated fan base, and that base increases one hundred fold or more once they start appealing to nostalgia.

ponyhammer
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ponyhammer

Yes it is two way street but you can choose to take another path it’s really niave and hypocritical to expect companies not to take advantage of it .
It’s up to you to work out and see through the scam .

No one here would not try the same even jim himself trys little tricks to get more attention.

BAH!
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BAH!

Actually, a lot of people here and elsewhere would not try the same. If we were in (for example) Nintendo’s shoes, we’d try to meet demand because that’s how money is made.

ponyhammer
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ponyhammer

Maybe maybe not but it does excuse the fact that the reason companies do this is because it works and the only people to blame are the joe public that fall for and even some people like Jim fall for it knowing its a scam .
I sense Jim wanted one and could not get one .

BAH!
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BAH!
And that’s kind of the point. A LOT of people wanted one and could not get one. And the stupid part is that their desire was not created out of the lack of lack of supply, it was created out of a genuine desire for the product *even before* it was released. So to say that “it works” is a wildly inaccurate assertion. Would I pick one up if it were available? Yes (as a gift), but I wanted to do so since it was announced. And that’s true for the VAST majority of consumers who currently can’t get one.… Read more »
drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Pretty sure Jim was critical of it on Podquisition. Yeah the people who subscribe to it and let it occur can be blamed but the company isn’t not blameless n the situation as they are still manipulating a market and ultimately could easily manufacture more but don’t.

diamond
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diamond

It’s not just the public who are to blame, that’s a very ignorant and naive attitude to take.

ponyhammer
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ponyhammer

Is that not the other way around why do they do it ?
because the public makes it work
It’s the same with micro transactions ,pre orders ,season passes any other shitty thing you can think if their was not a market for it corporations would not do it .
And the only people that can make tactics like this a success for them is joe public buying in to it .

Blaming the corporation is a cop out for are own stupidity.

Gurphardt
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I do blame Nintendo for it because it’s a shitty, manipulative tactic that does not benefit us in any way.

diamond
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diamond

That’s nonsense, Nintendo are to blame.

ponyhammer
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ponyhammer

It’s easy to blame a big faceless corporation for are own failings.
No one forces you to fall for their marketing ploy no ones got a gun to your head .

diamond
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diamond

You are so full of shit, stop sucking Nintendo’s cock.

Anton
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Anton

Easy tiger. He has a valid point.

diamond
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diamond

not really, trying to say it’s all the consumers fault and Nintendo is not to blame at all is just asinine.

Anton
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Anton

It’s not ALL the consumers fault; like someone else said, it’s a two way street. Nintendo wouldn’t pull this shit if we didn’t enable them every time. I’m not saying we shouldn’t shame Ninty for doing this shit… but I do agree that people have to put their foot down and really vote with their wallets.

Gurphardt
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That’s a problem much, much bigger than Nintendo, though.

Christoph Brinkmann
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Christoph Brinkmann

It is Nintendo’s fault for selling a dumb, disappointing, needless product in a day and age where emulation is a thing. $60 for 30 games that are in many cases that or more years old? Pass.

ponyhammer
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ponyhammer

Don’t be a nob I want people to use their fucking brains instead of blaming everyone else for their own stupidity.

They dangle a hook in front of you and your daft enough to bite the fucking thing .

If you want Nintendo to stop give them a better reason then empty moaning .

Malidictus
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Malidictus
There are few things I dislike in business than artificial scarcity. If there’s no physical way to meet demand while staying profitable, that’s one thing – hardware takes time and money to produce, after all. But when demand can be met at least in large part yet a company chooses not to in a bid to drive up the prices, I call bullshit. I’m getting really sick and tired of predatory marketing ploys which end up ruining the experience of a product for the sake of wringing customers for money like a wet towel. I’ve often said, in response to… Read more »
Anton
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Anton

My thoughts exactly. If I can’t easily buy something, I don’t get worked up, I just don’t give them my money. That being said, I can have this relaxed attitude only because I’ve given up collecting anything years ago.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

I have to ask though, does NES Classic REALLY take that much “time and money” to produce? I bet it’s just a mini-ITX PC in a custom casing with a Linux distro and an emulator rolled on top. The only thing that looks “difficult” in it is the controller port.

Miles Saintborough
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Miles Saintborough

No, it does not. Nintendo is just trying to be cute with making a low supply to generate more hype.

BAH!
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BAH!
Here’s the thing, though: whatever Nintendo’s doing with supply cannot possibly benefit them in either the short or long term. They’re not getting a cut of the scalpers’ profits, they’re just missing out on literally hundreds (if not thousands) of sales they could be making RIGHT NOW. It’s not a matter of “creating demand” or “driving up prices” because the former is already there, and the latter isn’t happening in any way Nintendo (or their retail partners here in the US) can benefit from. Maybe GameStop can, but that’s about it. Point is, it’s something else. Whatever bizarro-world logic Nintendo… Read more »
Billy Bissette
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Billy Bissette
It promotes the image that Nintendo releases only quality products. Nintendo doesn’t flood the market with dud products, or stuff that ends up on the clearance shelf a month later. That image is for both consumers and stores. Nintendo doesn’t just want customers seeing their products as inherently valuable, they want stores to see it as being “safe” to order Nintendo products. Nintendo doesn’t want stores seeing shelves full of unsold overstock, because seeing shelves full of unsold overstock can cause a store to not order different new products that will sell. (This is more a toy manufacturer viewpoint than… Read more »
BAH!
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BAH!

Fair enough, but wouldn’t Nintendo want to work with retailers instead of against them, in that case. From the sound of it, it seems like Nintendo was *refusing* orders for more product, even when – after the fact – it was obvious it would sell.

Like I said, bizarro logic.

circularlogic88
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circularlogic88

Nope, Nintendo outright resents videogame specific stores that cater to pre-owned products. It really is all about looking like their products have some sort of higher value or quality. Oh, PS4 Pro and XBox One S sold how many units this month? Our NES console is flying off the shelves, stores can’t even keep them in stock!

BAH!
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BAH!

Except appearances don’t pay the bills, sales do. I can understand their attitude toward pre-owned retailers (which is funny, considering they’re ALSO the outlets that get the extra goodies for pre-orders), but we’re talking about literally every distributor they partner with. Every single one.

That makes no sense.

Kyle Pierce
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Kyle Pierce

But what if Nintendo hires their own scalpers?

Conspiracy!

BAH!
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BAH!

That would explain a lot, actually. Curse you, Reggie!

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I bet he already pawned Laura’s Switch, before she even had a chance to order.

BAH!
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BAH!

Joke’s on him, though. It was 3D printed!

Uzuki
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Uzuki
I’ve been saying this for awhile and I cany believe it’s done on purpose anymore. If we go by ininterviews and documentaries on some of the inner workings at Nintendo, then evidence shows that the main Japanese branch, the one that makes all and final calls, is run by a bunch of out of date, xenophobic, grumpy business men who’s main concern is the Japanese market. From not knowing what their competitors are doing with their current account and internet services (this is why the Wii and DS had such roundabout services. The higher ups didn’t even know you could… Read more »
BAH!
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BAH!

Which is really weird, considering NA is their largest single market region. Or it was, last I checked.

Uzuki
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Uzuki
It might have something to do with knowing their own market a bit better then other regions. It happens a lot with Japanese companies. They KNOW they can make their money back and make a profit in the Asian market, because they know what they make sells to the audience they make it for. Release an anime aesthetic game over here and you’ll be lucky to make back the cost of localizing it. Even in the anime niche crowd there’s a 50/50 chance the product could sink or swim, because the crowd is too big and thus too hard to… Read more »
Stormbringer
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NES is not a Japanese product, therefore if they’re selling them there it’s only to Anglophiles in Japan.

Uzuki
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Uzuki

Shit! I meant to say Famicon! I know my regional differences of consoles! Come on man, I’m a nerd! Really I am! I still have my V card! Just ignore the crayon writing and backwards “E”.

Malidictus
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And that’s the other thing. Artificial scarcity simply creates a “secondary market” where scalpers make a killing off of desperate collectors – a killing that the actual creators don’t see a penny of. I can sort of see this with official real-money trading marketplaces like the Steam Market where the creators get a cut of every transaction, but this isn’t the case with physical media. I can maybe see it if it’s an attempt to drive up the price of the item from official sources, but official sources have a set price which doesn’t benefit from scarcity. I don’t know… Read more »
Anton
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Anton

I think Nintendo just has really low self esteem and secretly thinks that no one actually wants to buy their stuff.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

I hope Nintendo doesn’t pull this shit with Switch. Although judging by how hard it is to get a fucking 3DS here, I’ll probably have to sneak one into my country.

Gurphardt
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I’m actually surprised I managed to snag a copy of Pokemon Moon on release date given all the crap I hear about Nintendo’s distribution practices.

Allan Weallans
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Allan Weallans

I never really thought about releasing Pokemon on different days. The normal argument for releasing games on different days in different regions is because retailers demand it on a certain day, which differs from country to country, but as you show in the body of the video, Nintendo is QUITE willing to dick over retailers, which leaves… what?

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jedimastercosmin

Though I enjoyed this episode (as always), I feel that you could have focused also on Nintendo going up against the creators of AM2R and Pokemon Uranium and not letting them receive an award for their projects.
Though its their right, I believe it’s a very scummy thing to do.

Miles Saintborough
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Miles Saintborough

Those are totally different topics (copyrights and takedowns VS artificial supply). I think covering both would be damn long and would need to be separate episodes.

goodbyejojo
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goodbyejojo

nintendo’s scarcity tactics can fuck right off, i want to buy their product whenever i want.

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