The Jimquisition: Steam Needs To Stop Selling Toys Full Of Cum

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Almost 40% of Steam’s entire library was published this year. A single year.

It’s time to once again give Valve a dressing down for its lack of standards, because why not? ‘Tis the season!

Wisq
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Wisq
As a customer, I’m actually perfectly okay with the current Steam situation. I research every game I buy, I prefer having all my games on Steam, and I’m really grateful to find that’s usually the case these days, even for my more obscure titles. I also think that people in general aren’t skeptical enough of the things they buy, and they could do with a bit of “tough love” to teach them to actually go out and read reviews before they buy things. It’s the only way we’ll ever defeat outright scams like Colonial Marines. However, as someone who pays… Read more »
kimiyoribaka
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kimiyoribaka

I remember Gabe Newell mentioning in a reddit AMA a while back that the solutions for problems like this are still in the works, and that developing the necessary software takes time. I now have to wonder if the middle-ground solution you mentioned has become vaporware.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

or he saw Gabe Newell Simulator and thought ‘no need for this anymore.’

Ciaran O'Brien
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Ciaran O'Brien

Is there…
*slicks hair back*
… a MRS. Corn Flake Homunculus?

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Before being kicked off Steam and in the period when the lawsuit was occurring DH’s output was closer to about 40 games on Steam. They put up four different versions of Space Invaders each with a slightly different asset pack but it didn’t end there as there was like five different games for each of these asset packs.

It came across that without Jim commenting on them DH were acting as if they had free reign to try and get away with as much as possible.

LatePocketwatch
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LatePocketwatch

While I agree they haven’t done enough I do agree with Valve’s approach. They aren’t a physical store with more limited shelf space or warehouse space and should behave as such. Changing the appeal of the Steam service to having good games to having all the games isn’t inherently bad, and feeding back other services like Metacritic they know customers use makes sense. It just sucks they aren’t as skilled in filtering algorithms as they are in making games.

Daemoroth
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Daemoroth

Cum-filled bears on a shelf have absolutely nothing to do with ‘limited space in a physical store’, they will still rip it off the shelves. It’s just basic, simple quality-control and taking a little responsibility for the quality of items you’re selling.

Also has nothing to do with ‘having all the games’ either. Similarly, if there’s a hypothetical physical store with ‘all the toys’, they will STILL take those bears off the shelf.

Stormbringer
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Who controls the quality of the WWW? It’s the same scenario. There’s nobody home. Quit fooling yourselves. *Glares at Jim*

Daemoroth
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Daemoroth

Steam is a storefront, not the http://WWW...

Stormbringer
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It seems wrong for Jim to call it a “storefront” and then to proceed to describing something nothing like a storefront. It’s making Jim look nuttier than he ought to.

Fyou
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Fyou

Sony controls their storefront. Microsoft controls their storefront. Both exist entirely on the WWW. I suppose the real difference would seem to be which companies care. But I am forgetting that you are the one with the whole real truth, so I’ll accept your explanation.

Stormbringer
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It sounds like Steam (or Valve) is a more laissez-faire enterprise. Someone does control the WWW; the control is just a very light touch, and the barrier to entry is next to nonexistent. Steam is closer to that than anything like a store. As is the Google Play store, and so on. It’s not unique.

Michael R
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Michael R
How about the following: Separate the game purchase, download and patch service from the storefront itself. Meaning, that still anything that is not clearly fraudulent can profit from the steam infrastructure, but remains completely invisible in the store of the steam application itself, unless a certain level of quality is ensured. Developers that don’t reach that level still get a link or code they can embed on their own website that enables their customers to purchase and activate the game on their steam account if they are logged in in that browser. But they or their community will have to… Read more »
Stormbringer
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Yeah, it’s clearly not a “storefront” as described; therefor the problem is probably the extent to which it pretends to be one.

Anyone can literally upload anything to YouTube. Popular things are featured. It’s not rocket science. (And it’s obviously closer to YouTube than a store.)

Allan Weallans
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Allan Weallans
The thing about the Toys R Us analogy is that they might want to avoid the bad publicity of selling cum-filled bears, but those cum-filled bears also take up valuable shelf space that could be used for things that are not bears filled with cum. Valve doesn’t have that. It costs Valve virtually nothing to just have a game on its service. It costs them a little server storage space, and if only a few people buy it, it doesn’t cost them much bandwidth, while if a lot of people buy it, they win. Hosting crap is a very low-risk… Read more »
Gurphardt
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Has GOG not been much of a threat to Steam?

09philj
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09philj

If it’s on GOG, it’s available to pirate.

thatdamnrat
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thatdamnrat

And by all accounts people don’t do that because GOG has this thing called good will, something Valve used to have before they became glorified hat merchants.

guy smiley
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guy smiley

Well yeah, I have all 3 Witcher games and all DLC, on GOG. I have not and cannot yet play Witcher 3, because my PC ain’t up to it, but I bought them all anyway. Because CDProject are nice, and I like them.

Hell, they recently game me W3 GOTY Edition, for free, just because it made things more convenient and easy for users like me who bought the game and DLC as they came out.

mth
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mth

Piracy didn’t stop The Witcher 3 from selling 10 million copies.

I think a lot of people like having all their games in a single place, so once they have a collection on Steam, they’ll keep buying games on Steam.

Daniel Jensen
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Daniel Jensen

Pretty much every game ever is available for piracy.

qorl123
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qorl123

If it’s on Steam it’s ALSO available to pirate.

Allan Weallans
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Allan Weallans

No idea, to be honest, but CDPR are putting even their own games on Steam, so that might say something.

qorl123
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qorl123

They are, at a premium price though.

gasmaskangel
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gasmaskangel

GOG is a much more niche thing though, it lacks the same ubiquity of Steam.

Ivan Sorensen
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Ivan Sorensen

Some but very few AAA games hit GOG.

On the flipside, if I am buying indies, I either get them on GOG or for my PS4, since it seems there I can be guaranteed the game will actually work.

Daniel Jensen
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Daniel Jensen

As has been said GoG does what it can but it’s still mostly a specialist store. Most AAA games are Steam exclusive, simply because it’s incredibly popular and has DRM that pleases the shareholders without pissing off customers.

Benj
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Benj

I think “Jizzy Bear” needs to be added to the list of Jim’s nicknames.

Thank god for you Jim Fucking “Jizzy Bear” “Wild Card” Sterling Son, Lover of Boglins and Breaker of Devs.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

I was kind of hoping this would be about the Pixel Empire stuff which has occured over the past few days. Asset flipping in journalism form.

09philj
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09philj

Say what now?

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Basically a site which reposts articles from other sites without ever cresting the author they’ve done so to both Laura and Indie Gamer Chick. There’s more about it on Laura’s twitter.

Daniel Jensen
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Daniel Jensen

To add onto Drownedsummer’s comment, they also started trying to shame anyone complaining about it, under the excuse that “we’re just trying to help indie developers and it doesn’t matter where the good press is coming from. Oh and you have no life lol”.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

I forgot about that part and then several indie game developers actually stating ‘No we actually don’t approve of you stealing articles about other people and not crediting them’

diamond
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diamond

That’s kinda sad, cause one of my favorite youtubers-Caddicarus, has a brand deal with Pixel Empire.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

They appear to be quite disreputable and not particularly penitent. So worse than Video Game Blogger.

09philj
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09philj

Different Pixel Empire.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

I’m not aware of the other one.

09philj
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09philj

T-shirt and poster manufacturer.

diamond
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diamond

Ah my mistake.

OctopussGrift
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OctopussGrift

The Jimquisition as a show is often not super quick on the draw.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Sometimes but a lot of this was also happening today. There a few times when it seems like an episode has happened due to it being a slow news week.

OctopussGrift
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OctopussGrift
Maybe the workshop could be expanded to be like the game test grounds. Sell all the lower end games through the workshop, if a game gets say 10K sales (real sales not key giveaways) it becomes a storefront game and that developer gets a special status that lets them release their games to the storefront. The shit games would still be able to exist but they would be contained. Legit good games could escape the Steam Cesspool (my proposed name for the workshop expansion) and the average user wouldn’t have to deal with the shit. Also people who voted for… Read more »
Benj
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Benj

The guy from the game awards sounds like Tommy Wiseau.

“…Oh hai Hydro”

gasmaskangel
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gasmaskangel
I feel like a big part of the problem is that for a whole helluva lot of people, Steam is PC gaming. There are a handful of competitors and imitators out there of varying quality (Origin and Uplay can suck my taint, but GoG Galaxy is pretty ok) but none of them represent any real threat to Valve’s utter domination of the market, and therefore there is no concrete incentive for the company to clean up their act, even if there are factions within the company that would like to. I completely agree that Steam needs a good purging of… Read more »
diamond
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diamond

Total Biscuit warned people years ago that the “if it’s not on Steam then it’s crap” attitude was a bad thing, but nobody listened to him, he was also talking about how awful Steam’s library was getting back in 2014, but delusional and butthurt Gabe-N fanboys did nothing but insult him.

gasmaskangel
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gasmaskangel

Is there anything that fanboys don’t make worse?

AnGer
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AnGer
I feel a bit torn about the subject of Steam accepting increasingly more games into their library. On the one hand, I am quite happy that a lot of the things that have come out on the service are things that I as a rather Japan-centric gamer enjoy (Doujin games, VNs, jRPG (though MS should step up and put out their jRPG out on PC)) and the other offerings haven’t been too shabby either. On the other hand, sifting through the sheer deluge of rubbish is so cumbersome and even the Tag lockouts didn’t help with that. Also, speaking of… Read more »
The Outsider
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The Outsider
The Japanese games aren’t terrible, at least. They’re just a less popular genre. It’s not total wank. Rather than using labels, they simple should have designed categories for people with specific tastes, and keep that off the front page. Why does every small release have to be treated the same way as AAA? I’m not saying AAA games can’t be terrible, but a certain quality can be expected. Tags are nice. Tabs are better. I want an “Indie” store page. A “AAA” store page. Think the same store page as we have now, only several different version of it, starting… Read more »
gasmaskangel
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gasmaskangel

I really like that idea. They could even set it up so that you only see the store pages you personally select. If, for example, you primarily play horror games that could be the first and only page you see when you click on store and then can navigate to the others if you want to.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Why does every small release have to be treated the same way as AAA? To sell them. Most AAA games have lots of publicity and media coverage outside Steam. Most small releases don’t.

AnGer
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AnGer

I agree with that. Just because I primarily play games of a certain nature doesn’t mean I want them all the time. Plus, this DOES lead to the marginalization of smaller fare and we have enough of that in other aspects of gaming already (see: Handheld, Mobile & Indie games not winning anything at shows like TGA outside of their own specified categories).

Nevermind games that could fall under either category: Where, for example, would you put Final Fantasy? Asian/Anime or AAA?

The Outsider
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The Outsider

Fair enough. Seems to me by treating them equally, Steam is placing them on the same level as AAA essentially. It’s not the main reason why this has become such an issue of course, as that starts with how they’re just accepting everything nowadays without sorting through them… but… Y’know.

KreskinsESP
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KreskinsESP

Also in need of moderation: the user-defined tags, since people still think marking a game like “Putt Putt goes to the Zoo” as “survival horror” is still the funniest thing in the world for some reason.

The Outsider
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The Outsider

“Recommended because you played games tagged with First-Person, Singleplayer, Great Soundtrack”

Oh, oh is that so Steam? Well thank you. I am so interested in playing this ‘First-Person Singleplayer game with a great Sountrack’! I just came off Doom (2016) so this should be g-… Planet Coaster…

The tag system needs to die.

gasmaskangel
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gasmaskangel

I’ve got a wacky idea here, tell me how this grabs you: maybe, just maybe, the tags shouldn’t be controlled by the users and should instead by selected by the people who put the fucking games up in the first goddamn place!

The Outsider
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The Outsider

You know what? That sounds pretty good! Even then though, it also depends on how Steam recommends games based on tags. Developers probably won’t abuse it, but if they use generic tags like Singleplayer, Great Soundtrack, and First-person, then we haven’t really narrowed it down a lot.

But I do agree it would be a helluva leap in the right direction.

OctopussGrift
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OctopussGrift

Or add official tags, and only give recommendations based on the official tags. They could still let people search for unofficial tags if they want to if there’s something weird they are into that a developer might not think to include.

gasmaskangel
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gasmaskangel

That seems like a good compromise to me.

AnGer
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AnGer

This is so terrible.

“Hey, Steam… y’know, just because I am currently spending a lot of time with FF XIV, doesn’t mean I’m interested in other MMORPG – in fact, quite the opposite, thank you.”

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

We recommend you this because you played these games…. slight problem there the game I played with those tags was good and not an asset ripped pile of shite. You see Valve your system doesn’t really take into account the quality of those games just that they are tagged with something similar. So thank you for recommending a Digital Homicide game to me.

The binary state of the review system is shite as well. Positive or Negative there kind of needs to be a bit more than that.

Allan Weallans
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Allan Weallans

I’ve said it before, but prior to its “mysterious” removal from the store, Steam kept insistently trying to recommend me Deadly Profits. The recommendations system works on the assumption that “if it’s on Steam, somebody might like it”, which isn’t an assumption that makes sense when literally anything can get on Steam.

SmaMan
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SmaMan

It’s turning into the games version of Pandora.

Hey, you like this one indie electronica artist? Well that must mean you like all of them.

Here’s some tickets to a band you’ve never heard of/don’t like/performing way to far away for you to feasibly make plans to go see.

Jiryn
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Jiryn
I honestly feel what is going on with steam early access and green light is hurting the PC gaming scene, if not the gaming industry on the whole. It honestly feels like, and has strong parallels to the early 80s when Atari had no quality control over what was released on their console, leading to a flood of cheaply made, mass produced products and the crash of the industry. As for the FuckKonami news. I am curious about how true the recent information about Kojima and Konami is. Apparently, Kojima was literally under house arrest by Konami until he finished… Read more »
The Outsider
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The Outsider

I can’t find a single credible result on Hideo Kojima’s parties online, and as we know the Internet is never wrong. Where did you get that drugs/partying info? Even if it is recent, any media would jump on that, especially at this stage.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

As I said, it was in passing conversations with people.
They however had no evidence, and I am now going to ask them if they have proof.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Don’t know if this helps..
It was said by a former Konami of America employee who would found out about it from Konami of Japan’s employees, but will not reveal anything more beyond this.
All the KoA employee said is
“If anyone asks where you heard it, tell them a former employee of the Konami Japanese branch said it.”

So, I can’t tell you how credible this is… in some ways, yes he is a confirmed EX KoA employee.. but.. it’s still here say, and sounds like “My uncle who works at Nintendo said.”

The Outsider
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The Outsider

Well, I won’t quote it or otherwise spread the word, but I choose to believe the more fun version. That is, Hideo Kojima dancing on a table flinging cocaine into the air like it’s snow during Christmas.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Now I am seeing Kojima like the Wolf of Wall Street of the Video Game Industry..
Thank you, I needed that.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Yeah, I see the parallels too. But people keeps buying from Steam; that’s a big difference. I don’t know exactly what makes people buy those games (attracted by novelty, love for the randomness, support for the underdog, LP bait, included in discount packages, bought for the trade cards, etc). But as long as they keep buying enough low effort games to make them an attractive business, no Steam crash will happen.

Appretaur
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Appretaur

I was a little surprised that Jim didn’t delve into those details in this FucKonami segment when The Know did in a recent video. Was it just too tenuous information to work with?

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Now you made me go look for the video!
Thank you so much!

Appretaur
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Appretaur

It’s titled “Konami IMPRISONED Kojima + Game Awards 2016 Recap! – The Know Gaming News”, for anyone interested.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Yep, already found and watched it.

SilentPony
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SilentPony

If Del Torro actually posts a pic of himself in a Fuckonami shirt, I will jizz my pants. That would be peak Sterling. That’s the top of the mountain. When the man who made Pacific Rim, which is really just an extended metaphor about Jim fighting giant Konami Kaiju pachinko machines, shows his support for the Jimquisiton…

Pack it in. Civilization is done. Its all down hill from here.

The Outsider
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The Outsider

I wonder if he’s really aware of (the) Jim(quisition)? Maybe he’s secretly a fan?!

SilentPony
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SilentPony

It’s worth reaching out and finding. Anyone got a twitter? I don’t, so someone else needs to find out.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

I got the feeling that Del Toro is a secret admirer of Jim, and he just hints it with his attire in the trailer. Or it could be just a big coincidence…

SilentPony
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SilentPony

He probably knows about the hashtag and movement, maybe even the shirts, but maybe doesn’t know Jim was the originator.

galactix100
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galactix100

I get the feeling that was Kojima if it was intentional. Maybe Death Stranding is the alternate timeline where Jim didn’t think of #FucKonami

KreskinsESP
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KreskinsESP

I think that Del Toro might actually be Jim, wearing a fake beard and speaking with an accent.

Have you ever seen the two of them together? I know that I haven’t.

drownedsummer
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drownedsummer

Well first it starts with a Fuckonami T-Shirt then cut to next October when Jimsaw releases in cinemas.

Cindipool
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Cindipool

Jim, I know this year has been horrifying, but that’s no reason to stick your head in a plastic bag.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

Cornflake Homunculus is best mascot.

I have nothing else to add to the discussion.

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Maybe Purge the Alien?

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

The sad part is, I really didn’t have anything else to add. The rest of the video is on-point and it sounded as though vindication, while not sweet, was a damn good stimulant for Jim.

Burn Steam. Burn it with fire so we can have Plasma, the hot new gaming storefront that totally won’t be exactly the same but rebranded to sound cooler.

SilentPony
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SilentPony

I’d be down for that. Plasma.
Good idea.

The Outsider
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The Outsider

I don’t! It’s one step closer to commercialising Jim Sterling™! I WANT HIM TO STAY DOWN TO EARTH™!

This is sarcasm by the way. Not sure if you could tell. Just thought I’d put that in there. Better safe than sorry… Not that I’d be sorry, but it’s still better to be safe. Safety is good.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

You can dance if you want to.

Stormbringer
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Whatever happens Jim is always down for something.

Stormbringer
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Nearly gave me a heart attack!

Sharadufobash
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Sharadufobash
Being a cynical guy, full of loathing for myself and whole the human race, I’d say Toy R Us would sell teddy bears full of cum if it made them money. The reason they don’t is that the bad PR would lose them money and hurt the business overall. Once you’re making the kind of money Valve is and there are shareholders to answer to then you act purely for profit. Only two things restrain terrible behaviour from big business: regulation and bad PR. I guess Steam just worked out that the PR from all this has no consequence on… Read more »
Film Runner
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It’s like Steam has gone from being the equivalent of a major Hollywood distributor to being Youtube.

SilentPony
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SilentPony

More like those mockbusters, carrots. Fake, cheap knockoffs of legit games.

diamond
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diamond

Except some mockbusters can still be enjoyable and some are well made, there’s nothing fun about shit like Slaughtering Grounds.

Stormbringer
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What Jim’s describing is absolutely YouTube. It doesn’t sound like it ever was anything but.

RifleAvenger Sashiro
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RifleAvenger Sashiro

Eh, in the very early days of Steam they reviewed every application and declined a lot of games (even competently made ones). You nearly had to be a big dev or backed by a major publisher to get added. A lot of the trouble with the awful stuff began when Steam started trying to open its doors to indie devs.

Whereas one of the most popular videos from early Youtube was of two teens licking a Jesus action figure while lip syncing to the theme song of Pokemon.

Stormbringer
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But doesn’t it seem like time to let go of that quaint notion? It was probably in Beta at the time anyway. It takes a lot of hothouses full of servers to run an operation like Steam. That doesn’t scale up overnight.

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Honestly you could just close the trading card profit thing and 80-90% of all the shit games would die.

I still don’t get how they make a profit on them, but that’s apparently where most the profit for these shitty $1.99 flipped games comes from.

Absolutfreak
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I believe the developer gets a cut of the price paid when cards are sold on the market.

It really is a shitty system. Some people buy the crap games just for the cards so they can level up their Steam profiles, which further keeps terrible developers churning out the garbage.

Ana Decker
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Ana Decker

See, every time this debate comes up I’m torn between agreeing and being fully aware that many, many, many games I’ve loved – up to entire genres – would’ve never made it on Steam during the strict admittance days because some “core gamer” tapeworm might thrown a NOT A GAAAAAAME tantrum.

The Outsider
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The Outsider

There are plenty of alternatives to Steam for that. Steam had standards. Long loooong ago.

Ana Decker
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Ana Decker

There are also plenty of less messy alternatives to Steam selling only the games you want. See how that predictable bullshit reasoning doesn’t work?

The Outsider
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The Outsider

It’s not about what *I* want, this issue is one way or the other. You can’t simply let “this one game” through because *you* like it even though it doesn’t adhere to Steam’s old standards, because then the shit games follow it along. Which is exactly what happened. This is a multimillion business, not some passion project.

But I can already tell I don’t want to debate with you, seeing as the salt is already coming out of your fucking ears.

Ana Decker
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Ana Decker

Are you in the actual Void right now, because you’re certainly not anywhere near understanding what I originally said. Which is damn impressive, in a sad way. And tell you what, the next time you don’t want to have a debate, just shut up and fuck yourself instead of trying to have the last word.

The Outsider
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The Outsider

Well, I was after a potential discussion, but look at you! So full of rawr! Gosh, I’m so intimidated!

You know, I’m very happy to be in the void, knowing I won’t have to share the same space with a fucking degenerate like you.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

“would’ve never made it on Steam during the strict admittance day because some “core gamer” might throw a NOT A GAAAAAAME tantrum.”

Why are you using two unrelated explanations as one? Are you saying that the people in charge of the old Steam admittance system were core gamers?

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Damned Russians. First they fucked up our election, now they’re spamming out game libraries with their pirated asset flips. I tell ya’, we need to get this cold war started up again pronto and get these communist bastards out of Steam!

galactix100
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galactix100

Do French-Canadians count as Russian?

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Probably? Its cold enough up there, so might as well.

galactix100
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galactix100

Right so that’s BMC dealt with.

SilentPony
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SilentPony

Good. That means progress

aimei66
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aimei66

Steam is less like selling cummy Bears and more like aisles and aisles of sexually abused plushies looking at you with those dead glass eyes whispering ‘help me’ as you pass them.

09philj
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09philj

“Show me where the bad dev touched you”

aimei66
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aimei66

I think part of the problem is they didn’t touch them ba dum dum tiss. I’ll get my coat.

Stormbringer
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But why do you browse it? Why not search for Cummy Bear if that’s what you’re in the market for?

09philj
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09philj

The question is, how do we curate the entries? Do Steam hire a bunch of unfortunate sods to slog through the hideous dreck?

My personal idea is that every game submitted to Greenlight must be given for free to, say, a few hundred people who’ve fulfilled certain eligibility criteria to show that they’re in the game’s target audience. Only these people get to vote on the game’s submission to Steam, and get greater rewards for playing the games for longer before making a decision. That’s only a rough outline, but I think it could work.

galactix100
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galactix100

I like the idea in theory but it would be difficult to put into practice considering: the number of people that would be needed, the number of games that would be required to go through this process, that games have managed to get greenlit through bribery so it’s not implausible that it could happen if this idea became reality.

09philj
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09philj

I think there’s enough people using Steam to make it work. Bribery could be an issue, but it could be made so that Greenlight games dispense no items of value and all voters are anonymous.

Stormbringer
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I think this is a long term problem that is only just beginning as we transition into a society where making/publishing things is easier than reviewing/cataloging them. A very real possibility is we all disappear up our own assholes.

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