The Jimquisition: The Joykilling Culture Of ‘AAA’ Games

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We Happy Few has slowly transformed since it first arrived on Early Access, but its latest metamorphosis was sudden and jarring – it’s a “AAA” game now.

Gearbox acquiring the title, and the effect it’s had on the game, demonstrate that “AAA” is not so much about the funds or the studio, but about the culture.

Now take your Joy, and appreciate that I’m Undertale canon.

Bonus Content: Fuck Konami News

ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
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ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

Actually, this is Gearbox.

They’re gonna crowbar Duke Nukem into a game specifically set in a 60’s british mod setting, aren’t they?

WyattGr
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WyattGr
I gave We Happy Few a chance last year when Xbox let me have a trail, and I immediately stopped caring about it. If it gets better, that’s great, that’s the point of early access. Then I hear all of this, and, nope, I’m starting to expect it to just become something that people only cared about before it came out. That is a shame, but it’s Gearbox. On a related note, I ended up thinking about Cuphead a lot from this. Microsoft found Cuphead enough of a darling that they bought the console exclusivity rights, made it a “play… Read more »
machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

Yeah good on Microsoft for treating that game properly.

Galactix100
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Galactix100

MS’ attitude is especially surprising when you consider the bullshit they pulled with Halo 5 and Gears 4. It’s weird to think that we’re more accepting of things like microtransactions in full price AAA games rather than cheaper indies.

MattParmeter
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After spending part of my day interacting with their reps, it’s pretty clear they don’t understand why people are upset with this decision. It would appear to be sticking with the line of “but the backers are getting more than what they asked for!” without once understanding what it was the backers were motivated by.

This would appear to be a group that wanted to found a studio on the back of a game, not create a game all by itself.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

It really is amazing how willing the Reddit PR guy is to double-down and try to undo decades of bad will, both toward the bullshit retail experience and the bullshit which is Gearbox itself. Publishing arm or not, it’s still Gearbox and these “things” didn’t exist before they made the deal to cement themselves in the GameStops and Wal-Marts of the world.

Christopher Allen
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Christopher Allen

Being from Indianapolis, I am surprised Konami would even have a presence there in that convention center specifically. Are we sure it’s really them, or just someone pretending to be them as a joke?

JIryn
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JIryn

Is there any chance in hell we can get you to dress up as Sans from Undertale for Halloween this year?
Please say there is a chance!

JIryn
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JIryn
I love you Jim, and I agree this is total bullshit on the part of the companies involved.. but I feel you’re throwing around AAA a bit too much. So I have to ask this, is this actually a AAA game, did they allocate the manpower, resources, budget, and advertising budget to officially make it a AAA or are people just calling it that because they have a scummy, halfassed AAA publisher backing them now? I bought the Early Access to We Happy Few way back when it first became available, and have patiently been waiting for the final product.… Read more »
Chris
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That is literally Jim’s point. All “AAA” means at this point is that you charge 60 bucks for a game then nickel and dime people with microtransactions and pre-orders and season passes. It doesn’t have anything to do with the quality of the game, a lot of “AAA” games are rushed hack jobs (*cough* Mass Effect Andromeda *cough*) but they are considered high tier so they get to pull all this shit.

JIryn
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JIryn

That is very true
My roommate pointed out that, like you said, people are going to EXPECT AAA Production values at that price.
Though there are plenty of games which are not AAA, or were not AAA that sell at that price point as well….

machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

Yes there were some lousy movie tie-in games like Battleship and Thor-God of Thunder that were most definitely not AAA, yet still had the balls to charge full price anyways.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

I was also thinking other games such as
Dark Souls 1, amazing game but was not AAA, however the very professional quality and gameplay speaks for itself.. it quickly became a AAA franchise.

Nintendo games are also not AAA (usually), but are treated like it, and with good reason due to their relative quality.

Persona 5 may or may not be, the earlier games were not.. granted “AAA” didn’t become a thing until the 7th gen.

Jiryn
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Jiryn

Double checked.
Persona 5 is not considered Triple A, but it did quite well in sales, enough to put many other AAA games release this year to shame

JIryn
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JIryn

also admittedly wrote the post before the video finished and he got to the point where he spoke about what AAA means anymore.

Secuda
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Secuda

So what exactly are they offering us who did not entering EA again? by charging us full price for a game that will essential be the same for backers who paid half the price?
yea cant say i am all that happy for the new trend.
If it fails its your fault for jumping on the train.
if it succed tough luck hand over the money.

Kirk Hammer
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Kirk Hammer

I’ve suspected for awhile now that if the current games industry does crash, then it will be at the level of one or more AAA publishers eventually collapsing under their own weight, and the only reason I don’t welcome such a prospect is the number of good, blameless people whose jobs would be lost in the shockwaves of such a demise.

sachiel
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sachiel

Gearbox certainly has my endorsement for such an eventuality. Even over EA and that’s saying something coming from my bitterness. Only thing keeping me from snatching up the homeworld franchise is gearbox’s name against it.

machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

I don’t expect a crash to happen because the industry is just so different now then it was back in the 80s, and also the crash was limited to North America, Europe and Japan were pretty much unaffected by it.

GreenGarden
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GreenGarden
I agree with you that we need more mid tier games and varied prices in gaming and this pre-order culture stuff needs to stop. For me Street Fighter V is still one of the biggest disapointments for me in recent years and I still can’t believe World of Final Fantasy had language options as pre-order DLC. Not sure if I want Hellbalde to be how their like though, I don’t want the idea that developers can lie and be deceitful to sell their products like they did to be a good thing or replicated and I refuse to buy that… Read more »
dyscode
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Totally with you, on Hellblade.

Amy
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Amy

I really feel that things are coming to a head within the “AAA“ space. Between the money grabbing practices, there’s also been a real glut of games trying something new with a big budget and the vitriol from the community is only getting louder.

I think the combo of Shadows of Loot boxes and now We Happy Few (editions; Standard, deluxe and CE) just a year after the NMS incident is leaving people even more bitter than usual.

It’s going to be an interesting Q4.

machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

Lucky for me I had already lost interest in We Happy Few long ago when I learned it was going to be yet another goddamn dime-a-dozen survival game, that already destroyed any potential interest I had in that game. So all this Gearbox stuff is merely the icing on the cake for me.

Amy
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Amy

I thought it had potential but with the massive price rise I need to see what is released before they get my money.

Stephen
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Stephen
The weird thing to me is – £20 mid tier games were being published alongside the full priced £40 ones (Oh, for the days when a console game was full priced at £40 rather than £50. PS2 and Gamecube, how I miss you) by the major publishers just a couple of generations ago, so this ‘indie AAA’ or ‘AA’ release model for Hellblade, aside that they’re now a large enough company to self publish a game with that size of budget without having to go via Kickstarter, doesn’t feel like bringing a new model into the picture to me, but… Read more »
ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
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ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

remember the days when the N64 basically lost that generation of the console wars to Playstation because their games cost so much at $60 compared to $20-$40 for a PSX game?

machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

You think that’s bad? There was a time when new games used to 70-80 dollars on the N64 thanks to Nintendo’s oh-so-brilliant idea to stick with cartridges long after everyone else had already moved on to CDs.

reidyy
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reidyy

I think the price increase has a lot more to do with the fact that it’s leaving early access than anything else.

Nighter3D
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Nighter3D

So the price increase is because it is only a mere 8 MONTHS from leaving Early access???

Octopus Grift
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Octopus Grift

They specifically told people that it was because Gearbox told them to do it.

dyscode
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On the other hand Darkwood has just come out of Early Acccess and is selling for !$14! and it’s good! – Amazing!
#FuckGearbox.

Benj
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Benj

I think someone needs to make a survival horror game where you’re an inventive young indie developer trying to survive in a world of eldritch AAA monsters and hordes of undead asset-flippers.

RomaDoma
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RomaDoma

That is a brilliant idea!

MuddyScarecrow
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MuddyScarecrow
To me what AAA really means is you’re never going to get a finished product ever again. I was extremely angry to take a quick browse through the DLC store of Arkham Knight (out of morbid curiosity) only to stumble on the “Season of Infamy.” A ten dollar SIDE MISSION PACK. Featuring popular villains that the base game itself doesn’t give you any closure on. Such as Mr. Freeze, Mad Hatter, Killer Croc, and RAS FUCKING AL GHUL; a character that they hint at making a comeback in one of the goddamn riddles! Oh but you thought you would actually… Read more »
Shui Gor
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Shui Gor

Hence, why I’m wary of Middle Earth: Shadow of War.

Galactix100
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Galactix100

Don’t forget Batgirl, Harley Quinn and the Red Hood being chopped of and sold for extra too.

MuddyScarecrow
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MuddyScarecrow

Oh trust me I haven’t. I just found the side mission pack a bit more egregious because unlike Babs, Harley and Hood they aren’t separate campaigns. They’re goddamn side quests. Side quests that should already be in the game cuz the ones that are in the base game are repetitive and boring. I thought that shit got screamed out of existence back when Dragon Age origins tried it. Guess that was a naive thought to have.

Galactix100
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Galactix100

I remember reading something saying that the Red Hood dlc only lasts 10 minutes or so and Harley’s dlc was half an hour at most. Glorified side quests at that point.

Allan Weallans
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Yes, the Ra’s al Ghul one was pretty good (better, as you say, than the base game) but that doesn’t excuse it. Being a PC player (with the terrible performance issues the PC version of that game had at launch), I sensibly waited long enough to get the GOTY version (and on sale, at that), so I got those side-missions. That’s what I don’t understand about these decisions. It’s not that they don’t sell the full game – it’s that they wait to sell the full game later on, to people who weren’t taken in the first time round. So… Read more »
ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
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ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
Basically by having a load of hyper-expensive early version you can trick a lot of consumers into getting the “merely” $60 basic version – supermarkets use a similar trick where they have small stocks of “high range”, higher priced, versions of staple goods near the normally priced stuff, which encourages consumers to buy more of the staple good because when the consumer looks at the high priced stuff they suddenly see the normally priced stuff as “a bargain” when the high priced stuff is deliberately overpriced to trick consumers. (Supermarkets add on to this trick by having “Brand X Nazis”… Read more »
Arcane Azmadi
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Arcane Azmadi

You said it, Jim: in today’s industry, not only do we no longer really need publishers, but they do more harm than good, IMMENSE amounts of harm, actually. Publishers rot everything they touch. They are the root of all that is evil in modern gaming (aside from modern gamers of course, bunch o’ pricks the lot of ’em). Fuck the publishers, fuck every last one of them.

machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

They’re not all bad, CD Projekt Red and Devolver Digital are both pretty good.

Galactix100
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Galactix100

Not sure I’d class Devolver as AAA though. Also the Witcher games are published jointly, at least,with Bandai Namco.

Chris
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Devolver is definitely not “AAA”, that’s kind of their whole deal. I love them, and I hope they never fall into the trap of trying to bilk customers for pre-orders and season passes or anything like that, the industry needs people like Devolver as a counterpoint to the “AAA” shit heads like WB, Ubisoft and Gearbox. I’ve also been pretty happy with Paradox as publishers, but again I wouldn’t call them “AAA” by any means. They’ve found a niche in strategy and RPG games and I wouldn’t want to see them turn into another trend chasing, soulless shell of a… Read more »
machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

I’d like to see Devolver get their hands on a AAA franchise like say True Crime, now that would be epic.

Also plenty of people besides 13 year olds like sandbox games thank you very much.

Anton
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Anton

That’s a great attitude to have until you realize that very few developers have the ability to fund their games themselves – and that includes AA and indie. As horrible as they can be, publishers are what allows a lot of our favorite games to exist.

It wasn’t all bad, either. Up until the mid/late 2000’s, publishers tended to be generally benign as far as anti-consumerism goes. It wasn’t until games became Big Money that the bigger investors swooped in and started ruining everything.

Anton
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Anton

I’ve personally become weirdly OK with pre-order/CE BS that’s oh-so-common within the AAA space. Not because the practice is ok in of itself, but because it actively discourages me from buying AAA games early on. I skip the release date, wait for reviews….. then give it a couple more years till the complete edition goes on sale on Steam. The system works… sort of. It’s really amazing how much money you can save once you get over the hype.

Chris
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Yeah, that’s the best way to interact with pre-order and season pass bullshit. Just realize that a year down the line the game will be up on Steam or PSN or wherever with all the DLC attached for less than it would have cost at launch. If it’s a publisher you don’t mind supporting that’s better than buying the game used because at least some of that money is still going to the devs as opposed to lining Gamestop’s pockets as they act like a parasite and leech money while contribute absolutely nothing to the industry.

machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

Or you could just buy the game used on Ebay and Amazon, I disagree that Gamestop contributes nothing, as they are the only dedicated games store in my area.

Galactix100
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Galactix100

That’s generally sensible practice when you see some of the offers in game sales. Dragon Age Inquisition GOTY edition for £6. I got Deus Ex Mankind Divided with all the dlc on ps4 for about £10-£15 a couple of months ago, I got the definitive edition of the Tomb Raider reboot on games with gold and the sequel at £20 in a sale 6 months to a year post release. It’s amazing what deals you can find when you wait a little while.

Terry Osaurusies XI
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Terry Osaurusies XI

Extra credit due for including the coolest of Dire Straits tracks. Mark Knopfler has a nice musical range. And that drum intro is pretty sweet. 🙂

Денис Фролов
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Sounds so much better live though.

Terry Osaurusies XI
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Terry Osaurusies XI
Randy Pitchford (after viewing Jimquisition): “Wait wait wait…there are voice recordings of Jim Sterling in this game and nobody thought at any point to fucking tell me??” – Intern 1: “Sorry sir, it was quite a whiles ago and the files have already been assigned to the appropriate events. It never crossed our mind that there would be any problem sir.” – Intern 2: “We didn’t realize you had history with one of our cast. Is it that bad, sir?” – Randy Pitchford: “Find the files and delete them all! I want him erased from this. Completely ERASED!!” – Intern… Read more »
HelixShade
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HelixShade

Oof, I get the feeling history is about to repeat itself here. Mighty Number 9 anyone?

Also, congratulations on becoming Undertale Canon, Jim! Any chance you can convince Papyrus to do the 2017 Game Awards this year? :3

machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

I’m thinking that’s going to happen with Bloodstained, Mighty No 9 and Broken Age taught me that even supposedly experienced devs can still fuck up big time when it comes to Kickstarter, so i’m not holding my breath for that game to be any good.

RomaDoma
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RomaDoma

I thought people generally liked Broken Age. Also if we’re being honest Keiji Inafune didn’t really have much to do with the success of Mega Man. He was a character designer and producer, not a game designer. Iga was instrumental in Castlevania’s success.

RomaDoma
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RomaDoma

Post-SotN Castlevania I should say.

machine_dirty
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machine_dirty
Some liked it, but many people(including Laura) felt that it fell far short of what Schafer had promised in the Kickstarter, the fact that part 2 came out over a year after part one pissed a lot of people, especially considering part 2 re-used all the same environments from part 1. Broken Age highlighted that Schafer really didn’t have a clue what he was doing when it came handling a game’s budget, which ended up causing many people to believe there was some truth to Bobby Kotick’s claims about Schafer constantly being behind schedule while working on Brutal Legend. Then… Read more »
HelixShade
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HelixShade

Because I feel like I should clarify here, the MN9 comparison came about because We Happy Few seems to share a few similarities with the story that game had – including now being Kickstartered games being released by big name publishers.

All We Happy Few needs now is the Crazy Community Manager and we’d have a full set of cards.

Imp Emissary
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Imp Emissary

Wait. Since Jim exists in our universe, and he is Undertale Cannon. Doesn’t that make everyone and everything else here ALSO Undertale Cannon?

Jim! You’ve brought us all into the universe/multiverse of Undertale!
Thank God for you, Jim. =w= b

VinLAURiA
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VinLAURiA

Finally, I have become Undertale canon. Now there exists another who is as – if not even greatly moreso – stylish as Mettaton.

Arella Jardin
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Arella Jardin

Ok, I know these are all things Jim hates, but don’t act like indie games don’t do the Preorder and Collector’s Edition racket, already. For crying out loud, he does a call out to Undertale at the beginning, and their console debut did both. And people are clapping like seals over that CE. Sure, it’s less common, but pre orders and CEs aren’t AAA exclusive.

Galactix100
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Galactix100

That said Undertale’s earned a CE and console pre-order since it’s comfortably post launch and has the clout to justify it. We Happy Few on the other hand isn’t even finished yet and could still turn out to be a load of crap.

TheFantasticPau
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That’s cause the Seals already know they like Undertale and want some more useless Tat of it to put on their mantle. Having a CE of something people already know they love, makes sense. I love Alien, so pre-ordering a CE of all Three Movies (yes, there are only three Alien movies) on BluRay, encased in a cheap, plastic Xenomorph Skull makes a lot of sense. Also, can you think of any Indie Game besides Undertale that had a CE? If so, where any of those the Original Release, or were they also Ports to other systems or Remasters? I… Read more »
machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

I liked Alien Resurrection, beats the shit out of Prometheus and Covenant that’s for goddamn sure.

Cypher
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Cypher

When did people’s taste start residing in their pants, butt region? Yes, Prometheus both sucked and blew at the same time but Covenant actually did a decent job of, yknow, telling us where the Alien came from in the 1st place. Now all that;s left to find out is who the Space Jockey was, but I do admit I;ll be somewhat pissed if its David.

MuddyScarecrow
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MuddyScarecrow

There is the website Indiebox that basically acts as a lootcrate for indie games on Steam. You get a neat box with cool artwork as well as stickers, patches, the game’s soundtrack and the actual game on a USB. But to answer your question these are all for games that were released ages ago. So I disagree with Arella as well. Indie gaming doesn’t do that shit because it doesn’t need to. As I said a few weeks ago neither does AAA

ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
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ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

“Yes, there are only three Alien Movies”

Aliens, Alien Resurrection and what other one?

Cypher
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Cypher

Ooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…………………………………………………………………………………………………

Not cool brah. Not cool at all. It goes Alien, Aliens, Alien: Covenant. Because I thought that wasn’t too bad actually………………………………..

Galactix100
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Galactix100

As cool as We Happy Few looks (fucking cool), and I kinda really want that mask because I love physical tat I’m not getting the game at that price with all the caveats like the season pass and likely future microtransactions. Gearbox can jump in a fucking skip, the greedy [♪SKELETON WARRIORS♫] that they are. Seriously Randy, ya wee rocket. Just. Fucking. Stop. It.

R.M.Renfield
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R.M.Renfield

That was kind of cool when you were laying it down with Dire Straits in the background.

A new music genre is born: Jim tearing AAA games a new one with rock music in the background.

Chris
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God, that is just gross. I’m incredibly glad I didn’t back We Happy Few at this point, I would be furious if I had given money to fund a cool idea and then they sold out to the “AAA” industry at the first chance for what I can only assume was pure greed. And to Gearbox no less. And I don’t believe for a second that microtransactions won’t rear their ugly head between now and launch, the survival formula is too rife for abuse with them and I simply don’t believe for a second that Randy “Greedy Lying Asshole” Pitchford… Read more »
Galactix100
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Galactix100

I’m in a similar ball park except I might pick some of these games up used if possible since most if not all of the money goes to the seller not the publisher. Of course that most likely means giving money to Game, a though that makes festering sores breakout across my body but at the same time I’d rather not give money to WB or Gearbox or to any number of other members of the shower of bastards known as AAA publishers.

Chris
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My problem there is I’d also rather not give my money to Gamestop, who are the only source of used games around me. At some point I just have to be willing to miss some games because I don’t want to support certain practices in the industry. If that means not playing Mad Max or Shadows of War or now We Happy Few then I’ll just have to deal with that. It’s not like there’s some huge lack of games to play that I have to have those specific ones.

machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

Are Amazon and Ebay not options?

Chris
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Most Amazon resellers are also incredibly shady, and I also don’t generally want to wait for games to be shipped. I’d much rather buy an indie game or an older game on Steam from a publisher I don’t mind still supporting than waiting several days for something to maybe come in maybe playable condition from someone who maybe stole it and is looking to pawn it off. Working retail and working closely with our company’s Loss Prevention team has taught me just how much of the stuff that ends up on Ebay and Amazon through third party sellers is just… Read more »
InfamousDS
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InfamousDS
The best part is that these guys see what they are doing as legit. You would not believe the amount of hate and lawsuit threats they can spew out when caught and are getting their accounts closed. “Amazon stole my money!” “My account was closed for no reason!” “I want to file a class action for how I’ve been unfairly treated!” The Amazon-hosted seller forums are publicly view-able and on Google. Anyone who wants to hate Amazon should spend about a week reading there, and you’ll both learn how to run a moderately successful e-tail business as well as decide… Read more »
machine_dirty
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machine_dirty
Amazon is a pain in the ass to sell anything on compared to Ebay and Half.com and i’d certainly never want to work there after hearing the horror stories about employees being fired for no good reason(Gamestop sounds like paradise compared to an Amazon warehouse). But I still definitely don’t mind buying stuff on there for the sake of convenience. I’ve got no way of proving what’s stolen and what is not, but it’s not like buying from say G2A where the games cost less then usual and as such you know that the vast majority of the keys on… Read more »
machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

Never heard of that before.

RomaDoma
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RomaDoma

Yerp. Happens all the time honestly. Back in the long long ago when I worked at Best Buy we had a team of guys who would come in, steal a bunch of merchandise, and resell it on ebay. We finally caught them cus they did it with a $5000 camera instead of just the games.

Then one of my coworkers got caught doing it too with blurays.

Chris
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Yeah, we don’t sell electronics where I work, but we get it really heavily with cosmetics. A couple guys will walk in, and one will try to distract any employee nearby while the other fills their pants with a couple hundred to a thousand dollars worth of cosmetics items then just walk right out. A few days later that stuff is up on Amazon for sale. When I used to work someplace that sold DVDs and games it was a big problem there. People would break the locks open on the video game case and shove as many as they… Read more »
machine_dirty
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machine_dirty

If that concerns you, you can always buy the game on Amazon or Ebay, i’d rather give my money to a seller then a publisher if a game has microtransactions or something like that.

MuddyScarecrow
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MuddyScarecrow

I wonder if the reason they joined with Gearbox is because people were disappointed that the game turned out to be a survival game instead of a story based FPS like the trailers kind of tricked them into thinking so now people aren’t really buying it. So in a bit of a desperate move to make back their kickstarter money they decided to join with a publisher. Which kind of makes sense but why Gearbox of all people? The guys who haven’t seen a successful game since Borderlands 2?

Galactix100
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Galactix100

My guess is rather than naked greed/cynicism the devs were perhaps starting to run out of money, especially after what sound like numerous significant updates and changes to the early access version and Gearbox offered to fund them in exchange for their dignity/souls.

Chris
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Bullshit. If between Kickstarter funds and Early Access funds you can’t finish your game, rethink what is wrong with your design and your work flow. Don’t sell your game’s soul and piss off the fans who are the only reason your employees have gotten paid for the past year or more that you’ve been working off crowd funding and pre-sales. That’s a slap in the face to everyone who supported the game up until this point and an admission you care more about getting to charge more now and nickel and dime people with pre-order bullshit and DLC and whatever… Read more »
Cypher
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Cypher
And with that being said, go back and have a look at all the marketing material for both Borderlands games, Brothers in Arms etc etc. Gearbox, and specifically Randy Dickfork, does nothing but lie and show things that NEVER MAKE IT INTO ANY OF THE GAMES HE’S MARKETING TO ROOMS FULL OF PEOPLE. Aliens was just the 1st time it became blatantly obvious and that brought the rest to light. Hell, Gearbox stole the art style for Borderlands for crying out loud. Not to mention artwork from Olly Moss used (directly ripped from) Moss’ Star Wars artwork. When busted, Randy… Read more »