The Jimquisition: Weapon Durability, Fanbase Fragility

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The first portion of this video is some performative yelling about weapon durability, specifically in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

The second portion is about something less durable than any weapon in any game – the psyches of Zelda‘s most viciously defensive fans.

moon1337
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moon1337
On weapon durability, I generally do not like it in games. It CAN work though. I found it effective in the Dark Cloud games. You had really strong weapons that broke easily and weaker ones that lasted quiet awhile. It took skill to know when to swap out. Usually though it is poorly implemented. On thin-skins, it saddens me that people get this upset over a video game. I honestly don’t understand how something like this can be so earth shattering for them. There have been games I thoroughly love that barely scraped a 5 or 6. A score really… Read more »
kimiyoribaka
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kimiyoribaka
I concur on the terrible-ness of weapon durability, at least in a real-time game with a single player character. For me though, it’s for a different reason. I’m perfectly happy to believe that the amount of blood and flesh a sword has to go through to defeat a demon from one of these games will break the sword quickly, but I’m not willing to believe that a single hero with a normal sword that can only beat 3-4 demons can somehow beat the 100’s of demons most games would have them beat. I think if a game has to keep… Read more »
Anton
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Anton

Oh, man… old-timey comments are back. Here’s hoping for a swift un-fucking of Disqus.

RenaissanceSpam
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RenaissanceSpam
On the subject of Weapon Durability, one system that I found worked rather well was that of the Fallout games (well, 3 and afterwards), specifically because weapon and armour durability dictated their effectiveness, not how many times you could use a thing. It made repairing the items an upgrading goal as opposed to a maintenance chore and made discovering duplicate weapons a moment of triumph because it meant another couple extra HP of damage or some more damage soak. Additionally I found it helped with the setting as it showcased the wear and tear the wasteland had on things, and… Read more »
Ruder9
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Ruder9
I totally disagree. Weapon durability systems can be alot of fun, not if they’re handled right but just by how they make the game around them function. My first time playing Fallout 3, I had no idea the game even had a durability system like Oblivion did, so when I ran off into the metro and started getting outnumbered and backhanded by ten or so ghouls, only to have my gun start “jamming” it made the whole situation feel more intense and wild. Even though if memory serves I was on such a low difficulty I probably could have just… Read more »
SilentPony
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SilentPony

Breath of the Wild is literally the worst Zelda game on the Switch. Literally.

Chris
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Chris

Well played

DDR
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DDR

Zelda hipsters prove once again how salty and retarded they are.

Well done! 7/10!

Also, I ve been loving Nintendo way before all of you assholes came and ruined it with your fanboyism, and apologism. Be used to criticism, you will forever be criticized for whatever you do in life, and if you can’t take that… you can joint eh SJW and feminazis in the “safe zones” where no one can tell you things that can “hurt your feelings”.

Christian
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Christian
I’m so sorry this rubbish is happening, Jim. I respect your opinions and I may not always agree with them (a rare occasion I might add) but the amount of despicable abuse that has been thrown your way as a result of liking a game just blows my mind. I think it’s fair to say that at least certain games have become religious places of worship in a very real sense and as soon as someone has an opinion that perhaps a majority of people don’t agree with, they are in some form or another crucified. Hopefully you don’t pay… Read more »
Fuzzy Barbarian
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Fuzzy Barbarian

Congrats, Green Tunics. The most damage you’ve done is make it so we can’t use Disqus here for a little bit. But hey, 7/10 for the effort.

John
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John

Nincultist. They always get a free pass and no one ever does anything about those enabling bastards. Maybe now, after all of this, someone will stand up to them and shine the spotlight on them.

Chris
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Chris

It’s sad. I love Breath of the Wild and have been playing 1-3 hours per day since release.
But that love is soured with the knowledge that these sad bastards ALSO love this thing I love and I feel like I’m a sad bastard by association. Oh well, back to Zelda. Good luck dealing with the shit stains of the world Jim!

Drake Warnock
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Drake Warnock
It IS more accurate that weapons break. They don’t shatter but they will have the tips break off and stuff. Even if you have a well made sword you’re only going to be fighting a handful of people before this is going to happen and you’re left with a sword that won’t really help. That is only true of bladed weapons. Blunt stuff is always going to work no matter how beat up it gets. I mean, that lead pipe is going to eventually bend and break after years of use I guess. Now that all said, just because bladed… Read more »
MattyG
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MattyG
Hey, I’m really sorry that the site got DDoSed. I just wanted to note really quickly, it might be wise to give some kind of spoiler warning for your segue into talking about the ending of the game (when you have Ganon’s face on-screen). Some people might not consider that a spoiler, but for me it came out of nowhere, and I wouldn’t have watched the video if I had thought it was going to appear. Saying what happens after beating the end boss (and in fact confirming that that character is, without doubt, going to be the last enemy… Read more »
Chapomon
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I’m am in disbelief that your site was attacked over your Breath of the Wild review score. I shouldn’t be and that’s sad. As for weapon fragility in video games, I always hated it in Dead Rising, even if it fits with the theme of survival. My favorite game series, Drakan, has a weapon fragility system. It was never really an issue in the first game, Order of the Flame since most of the weapons are decent, have a fair fragility rating…at least until I got the best flaming sword ever that would set things on fire, was armor piercing… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

At least in Dead Rising you could find books that would make your weapons last for a good long time.

Nekowolf
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Nekowolf

HOOOOOOOOOOOOLY FUCK ME IN THE ASS!

This shit has gone so off the deep end, it’s digging through the dirt to reach the other side of the world just so it can make its way back around here again for a second time. Fucking hell.

09philj
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09philj

Hm.
Yes.
The comments here are made out of comments.
Fascinating.

scott stewart
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scott stewart
I to have been through that wall and once emerged I saw him… beheld him, in one hand a golden boglin held skyward and beneath his foot layed crushed and broken those foolish enough to challenge him, and upon his head sat a mask of golden light shining upward onto the heavens and as that light reflect upon me a voice spoke “Here stands a man, a game pundit, a profit of the ages, and the number one boglin boy. Thank me for him” Upon hearing this I dropped to my knees humbled and blessed my life now fulfilled Thank… Read more »
BobLoblaw
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BobLoblaw
The relative anonymity of the internet is inspiring the worst kind of tribalism in people. As someone who wasn’t raised religious, I can’t understand this sort of zealotry. This must be the same mindset that leads people to commit terrorist acts or swat streamers or make death threats over twitter. Is gaming a religion for some people? It seems to have its holy books, zealots, high priests, and apostates… I wonder if this (8.8/hate) is why Giant Bomb had its resident Zelda fanboy Dan review BotW instead of the more critical Jeff Gerstmann. This shit is crazy–it reminds me of… Read more »
Khasym
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Khasym
It isn’t tribalism. As bad as it’s gonna sound, this is a lack of morality. And NOOOOOO, I DON’T mean that BS bible thumping nonsense. Morality isn’t what you do according to what others think. It’s what you do when the only person to hold you accountable, is yourself. These whiny script kiddies who are hacking and cracking websites, do so with relative impunity. Not just from criminal authority, but the views of their friends and families. Imagine if around the dining room table, or hanging out with NON computer friends, one of them said “Hey, I had a blast… Read more »
Michael Prymula
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Michael Prymula

I have to wonder just how many of those perfect Zelda scores were truly honest, did people just ignore the problems the game had and gave it a perfect score because they were terrified of fan backlash? Or did the critics really think the game was that good? We just don’t know for sure.

There was actually a case over a decade ago where a Gamespy reviewer tried to give Donkey Konga a 1.5 out of 5, but the editor changed his score to a 3, and after he complained his review was totally removed.

BobLoblaw
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BobLoblaw
I really wonder that myself. Most of the traditional gaming websites have pretty precarious business models, still dependent on advertising revenue, and it’s probably easier for them to go along to get along. Doubly so for Zelda, since there is already the 8.8 precedent for fanboy rage. I’m a fan of Giant Bomb and Gerstmann in particular, and it seemed cowardly that he assigned the review to the most ardent Zelda fan they have on staff while being very vocally critical of the game himself on their video streams and podcasts. I don’t follow other sites very closely but I… Read more »
Andrzej Sugier
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Andrzej Sugier

Yeah, It seemed a bit weird for me that Jim was so annoyed about the weapon fragility… until I dwa the gameplay footage. This looks like bollock, not a 10/10 material.

Andrzej Sugier
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Andrzej Sugier

…I cant edit my comment? That’s bollocs too. I *saw* the gameplay footage.

Supercrotchinator
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Supercrotchinator

Did Jim have to disconnect Disqus due to the DDoS?

Jorge
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Jorge

I made it through also 😀

Jorge
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Jorge

I made through also 😀

Pookie101
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Pookie101

It honestly makes me scratch my head. What sort of life do you have to lead where your entire identity is based around your fandom of a video game to the extent that you take criticism of that game as a personal attack?

its frankly scary and dumbfounding

I had no idea that the weapon degradation system in breath of the wild was so bad, ive never found a system that was actually good but this sets a new low.

Thank you for another interesting video Jim

Ohbaaskah
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Ohbaaskah

Are you being DDOS’d?

Ohbaaskah
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Ohbaaskah

Looks like I’m late to the party.

TheAzureDream
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TheAzureDream

Keep up the good work Jim! ignore the haters! 🙂

Alt+Doom
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Alt+Doom

I got through the wall of whiny man children, hello world 😀

TheSeventhOfSix
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TheSeventhOfSix

Me too. Shall we start a mosh pit?

Octopus Grift
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Octopus Grift

It seems like the review itself is still having some issues.

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