Jef Costello
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Jef Costello

I am the very model of a lousy game developer
A cynical and litigious Early Access peddler
An asset-flipping, post-deleting charlatan and predator
Yes, I am the very model of a lousy game developer

ATBro
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ATBro

nice

RedWolf
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RedWolf

Is that a remix, or an original composition?

Anton
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Anton

youtube(DOT)com/watch?v=sNHvBbShd3c

Lewis w
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Lewis w

No, the rhyming pattern was taken from a song in The Pirates of Penzance, but I can’t remember what it was called.

Mandrake42
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Mandrake42

Its from Gilbert and Sulivan’s Major Gernal song as Jef Costello said. They wrote the play Pirates of Penzance (Among others)

Jef Costello
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Jef Costello

That’s me just riffing on the old Gilbert and Sullivan “Major-General’s Song.” It’s a popular target for parody.

Sharadufobash
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Sharadufobash

I’ve never even looked at Steam Greenlight so it’s kind of impressive you can make a video I found funny and informative about it.

The stuff about Mortose (or however you spell it) cracked me up.

Great stuff.

Mike Wallace
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Mike Wallace

I agree on the point that, on a “bigger picture” scale, Wildcard’s actions are skeevy but not the most grotesque. That said, I don’t hold it against any Ark players who feel insulted by the publisher’s dysfunctional actions. Context is everything, but having a broader perspective doesn’t necessarily dismiss someone’s actions. We don’t ignore theft because murder is a thing, for example.

Unnoticing Senpai
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Unnoticing Senpai

Pretty much this.
Besides, if Day One DLC is still an issue (it is) why is Day Zero DLC not an issue?

Wolfie
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Wolfie

Because in this case, that “Day Zero DLC” was designed to be DLC. That was its intention and function. Hell, if you really wanted, I could go into the mechanics and shit, just to prove a point.

Most “Day One DLC” is shit that they took out from the base game, and repurposed to be DLC.

Unnoticing Senpai
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Unnoticing Senpai

Even if it was, don’t you think that maybe, just maybe other devs won’t try to take advantage of this suddenly becoming acceptable as a means of ACTUALLY releasing content that wasn’t intended to be DLC as DLC?
Because as we’ve seen before, the industry knows no bounds with which to fuck over the customer when given the opportunity and I’m not going to let something like this slide given that it’s entirely a possibility as a result of it.

Wolfie
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Wolfie

They ALREADY do. All the fucking time.

Moon1337
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Moon1337

Damn it, Wolfie. I was about to hit enter when you beat me to it 😛

Wolfie
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Wolfie

I preemptively asset-flipped your comment!

Unnoticing Senpai
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Unnoticing Senpai

Right, so why encourage that?

Wolfie
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Wolfie

Because those ones are different. Those are ones that chop up the base game to release those chopped up bits as DLC.

Okay seriously. If a game comes out, and it’s a good game, and it has Day One DLC that is proper DLC, that was made to be DLC, that was made as competently as the base game, that did not detract from the base game, what is the problem?

What is bad about that?

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

STOP IT JIM, THEY’RE ALREADY DEA-EH-EH-EH-EEEEEEED…! #NotReallyTho

ovan20
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ovan20

No man, the horse is still kicking itself after dead, Jim stopped kicking it long ago XD.

Clark O'Brien
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Clark O'Brien

Its so funny that Jim finally stopped talking about them (for legal reasons but still) and they just destroyed their own business.

The Jünger Ludendorf
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The Jünger Ludendorf

Do you think they’re masochists? Or just really really desperate for attention from Lord Sterling (as we all are, we just hide it better).

The Jünger Ludendorf
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The Jünger Ludendorf

Unfortunately the sheer volume of demonic energy from all their virginal sacrifices revived them as unholy abominations who do nothing but scream incomprehensible insults and accusations while constantly filing lawsuits.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

… Where’s THAT Bloodborne boss? I’d buy DLC for that!

The Jünger Ludendorf
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The Jünger Ludendorf

Knowing Bloodborne, it’s hiding inside the bloody remnants of the child of an eldritch abomination, which had been experimented upon with the nightmares of puppies while dunked into a bath of kitten blood.

That, or Patches ran off with it, the wily scamp!

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Then we better call his buddy Pockets at the offices of Pockets & Patches LLC.

The Jünger Ludendorf
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The Jünger Ludendorf

So THATS where he kept the spider legs! I wondered where he got those from!

ATBro
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ATBro
This isn’t to defend Konami or anything, but the only thing I can come up with that might be why they release PES on PC the way they do, is because they know who their audience is. The football loving crowd is probably not the most up to date on their gaming rigs. That game has a different target audience than most games. I don’t know enough specifics about the internal workings of video games to say with authority, but I think Blizzard would attest to the idea that setting a low bar graphically allows more people to get in… Read more »
Batmatt
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Batmatt

I don’t know about that, I heard of plenty of people who buy new consoles on launch solely to play soccer games. Then again, these people may not be the ones who would upgrade a PC for that, and there’s the fact that I live in Brazil (we are one of the major countries of this sport after all), so my experience may not represent the broader picture.

Ziio
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Ziio
A properly ported game can have lower graphical settings for less powerful systems while still providing the high end graphics for those with newer systems. What is more likely is the cost and technology needed to port last generation games is cheaper and more accessible than those needed for the newest generation as well as them having all the assets from last years port available. They may have also felt they could drive the sales up on the console versions by releasing an inferior pc version. PC versions don’t make a large amount of money for most studios compared to… Read more »
Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP
I assume that it was just Konami being Konami, and thus approaching things completely ass-backwards. You know, how like the default modus of companies who intend to release stuff on consoles and PC this generation seem to be making the PC version first, with a wide variety of graphics options so that it works on lower and higher end machines, they they port that to the consoles and just kind of lock it into the higher settings? Konami maybe did the console version first, they ported THAT to PC, then just lazily lowered the graphics settings to make sure it… Read more »
Billy Bissette
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Billy Bissette
It was a console-first company being a console-first company. It isn’t anything special of Konami, and Konami isn’t even the worst offender. Koei Tecmo has done it for years, and will likely continue to do so. (Particularly since Team Ninja admitted to holding back options on PC DOA5LR in order to make sure it didn’t eclipse the current gen console version, while Omega Force once admitted that they wanted to make sure the current gen console version was the best version of one of their titles.) Heck, even consoles suffered such treatment. Just look at the Wii getting PS2 and… Read more »
Ender1200
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Ender1200
I really don’t see the big deal myself, most likely because I really don’t see any hard difference between early access and a complete game. I’ve seen several games that have all the rights to call themselves complete but still sit on early access, and game that are considered complete but are half baked mess. Then there are games like Terraria or minecraft which while being both complete and out of EA for years now still get content updates, and game like the paradox grand strategy games that evolve over years, getting both free update and a paid DLC once… Read more »
ATBro
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ATBro

The worst thing that he expansion does is give the person who bought it access to a mount that allows people to dominate over those who don’t have it.

Batmatt
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Batmatt

Whoa, that’s pretty broken.

Wolfie
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Wolfie

And not entirely accurate. Yeah, wyverns (I’m assuming that’s what he means) are pretty strong, but they’re turn radius isn’t the best, their breath attack uses a lot of stamina, and frankly, it wouldn’t be all THAT hard to take one down.

It’s difficult in Scorched Earth because of what dinos are available. But if brought back to the vanilla stuff? So many more ways of dealing with it.

Plus the whole way you even have to get one is to fly into their lair and steal their eggs, and the level and type of the eggs themselves are random.

David Sayers
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David Sayers

This episode may as well have been titled: ‘But Rob From Digital Homicide Is An Honourable Man.’

Locuas
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Jim, Since you did not trash this game because of the DLC i have to assume that either a) you are biased in favor of the game either because they paid you in secret to love it (you HAVE to love it to pieces if you are not tearing it apart. there are only two options, undying adoration or complete and utter disgust, after all) B) this is a clickbait video since, as a site that doesn’t get revenue from clicks but isntead from your patreon page, I assume that means you get money from clicks. those are the only… Read more »
RedWolf
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RedWolf

I wonder how many people will not get this.

LatePocketwatch
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LatePocketwatch

The basically correct grammar and courtesy of separating the wall of text with a and b dividers was throwing me for a loop I’ll admit.

Chris
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Chris

I have to admit, it took me until the first parenthesis to see the satire.

nicethugbert
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nicethugbert

Jim, Wildcard knew better precisely because it did better. You’re taking the lowered expectations route on this one.

Derpington
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Derpington

Wait… if Jim can’t mention the name “Digital Homicide” during a video to avoid further legal issues, haven’t they technically won with their pending lawsuit?

Mike Wallace
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Mike Wallace

It’s generally not a good idea during an ongoing lawsuit; the less Jim says the less they can try to compile and use as “evidence,” erroneous or not.

shavedjudomonkey
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shavedjudomonkey

You /never/ talk about an ongoing lawsuit to anyone. It’s one of the worst things you can do, as it gives the other side ammo to use against you. If you’re being sued, the best thing you can do is just talk to your lawyer.

William Jones
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William Jones

That and it’s going to nicely defend dh’s accusation that Jim is making money and gaining subs from talking about them – turns out that when he doesn’t talk about them for a year, he still makes money and gains subs at the same rate, almost as if their accusations were spurious…

nicethugbert
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nicethugbert

How can you technically win something that hasn’t happened? Perhaps the word you want to use is virtually.

Benj
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Benj

Caution isn’t an admittance of wrong doing and you’re right that starting a lawsuit like this does effectively buy them temporary immunity (which is how the legal system is stacked so heavily in favour of big rich companies)

…but you can bet your balls that Jim is saving every single negative thought about them for a massive celebratory victory dance when he inevitably wins or they back out.

LatePocketwatch
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LatePocketwatch

This.

DH’s end game is to shut Jim up AND have the courts ‘invalidate’ his already published criticism by granting damages, by declaring it copyright infringement or harassment and not ‘real’ criticism.

Basically, Jim could talk about it. A law expert might point out procedural exceptions but it is just in Jim’s best interest to keep quiet right now to prevent DH from dragging out the trial and a definite ruling. The legal term for not feeding the trolls is called burden of proof. And though incorporation is the legal equivalent of troll’s anonymity corporations do have assets vulnerable to countersuits.

MrInsecure
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MrInsecure

Anything you say to anyone else, except your lawyer, is potentially admissible as evidence in court. This is doubly true if you, say, happen to record it on a publicly available YouTube video that can be accessed and referenced at any time.

Malidictus
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Malidictus
A friend of mine mentioned the Epansion Pack for Ark in casual conversation, and it took me several minutes to realise what he’d said, with a “Wait wait wait wait! Isn’t Ark still in Early Access?” This just doesn’t make sense to me. You’ve asked for people’s money with the promise that they’ll get a completed game, yet you’re selling additional content that those people aren’t going to get before it’s even finished? That strikes me as breaking the deal. I can definitely see why people are angry, even if I myself am just perplexed. Interestingly, we’ve sort of gotten… Read more »
Bilateralrope
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Bilateralrope

The way I distinguish between an MMO that is genuinely in a beta to test things and an MMO that is released is simple: The moment the game servers come back up after the last server wipe is when I consider it released.

This applies to any game with persistent content.

ATBro
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ATBro
I think the one place where you, and most people, are mistaken, is when you think that paying to get early access is somehow a promise that you will get a complete game when it’s done. There is no kind of obligation, contractual or otherwise, that these developers will actually finish the game. You are paying to access games that are in active development, essentially like a play tester, and IF the game is completed, then you will have access to the final product. Also, saying “this is another objective lesson why you shouldn’t stay in Early Access for fucking… Read more »
Miles Saintborough
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Miles Saintborough

Then we should never play video games again because they’re never fully finished developing.

Malidictus
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Malidictus
It is a promise in the same way that Kickstarter is a promise. That doesn’t mean the promise is never broken, simply that I don’t like people who break promises. If you put your game on Early Access and it turns out there is no finished product for me to have had early access to, I’m not going to like you very much, especially if you don’t have any convincing reasons for why that happened. As long as your game is in Early Access, you’ve not yet fulfilled your promise towards your Early Access backers. If you literally can’t, then… Read more »
OctopussGrift
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OctopussGrift

Kobra was one of the first people to issue a takedown strike on a video Jim did.

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

There was definitely some face slapping going on here but it turns out the consumer got slapped.

I’ll probably never play Arc until it’s finished (whenever that is) but even I had to say this was a stupid move. I don’t think the consumers are entitled to every bit of content for free but when the base game isn’t even considered done yet and you charge a paid for add-on, you are doing yourself any favors as a developer.

There are no innocent parties here unfortunately.

Eirik
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Eirik

Is the dlc in early access?

LatePocketwatch
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LatePocketwatch

Special pay per view episode of the jimquisition, separate from patreon, to address the other topic. Good idea, or best idea?

Sharadufobash
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Sharadufobash

Boglin Watch and Fuck Konami News only available as micro transactions.

Please God, no.

Ziio
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Ziio

I’ll pay for those, as long as they come in barrels of 50.

LatePocketwatch
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LatePocketwatch

Better still you can pay to unlock a random episode, and trade with your friends to complete your collection!

Artemiy
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Artemiy

No-no-no. You get a lootbox. Each box can either contain:
* A photo of a letter written by Jim (55%)
* A photo of Jim’s used condom (30%)
* An audio recording of Jim saying “Thank God for me” (10%)
* A full Jimquisition episode (4.5%)
* A full Jimquisition episode and a full Podquisition episode (0.5%)

William Jones
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William Jones
The thing that makes me really angry is Valve have used their position to try to dictate the ability of a developer to take someone to court for harassment and no-one cares because of the fuckwits who they did it too. It may all be fine, but I’m worried that now, this will become a modus operandi of Valve, protecting the harassers with the ever looming threat of being evicted from the service if you dare ask a court to look at whether harassment has happened, all for the sake of protecting their reputation. It’s all well and good saying… Read more »
Anton
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Anton

Valve is a free entity and is 100% legally entitled to not do business with people harassing them and their customers.

Also, legal victories over online death threats is not something that will happen any time soon, regardless of valve’s actions.

William Jones
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William Jones

No, I completely agree, and the legal system will tell them that – BUT, how much say should valve have in that legal process? I would argue none

Mike Wallace
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Mike Wallace

Valve has no more power over the legal process than what is given to them by the law. They didn’t swing the hammer at DigiHom on a spiteful whim. Dig up the Terms and Conditions for publishers on Steam, and I imagine you’ll find a precedent for Valve to cancel any relationship with DigiHom on the basis of the legal conflict they have started.

galactix100
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galactix100

I do think Valve’s behaviour is spiteful. The whole DH thing is nothing new, it’s only now that they’ve dragged Valve into it that they give a fuck. I see it as Valve’s way of saying ‘you fuck with us and we’ll fuck you right back’. Valve could have taken this action at anytime given DH’s track record but it’s only now that they care enough to get involved.

InfamousDS
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InfamousDS

I can’t speak for Valve, but my experience with “You can sell, too!” contracts is that there is always an arbitration clause that strictly forbids suing a buyer or the parent company.

DH is suing buyers without legally binding arbitration, ergo they have violated the Terms of Use (which I doubt they read), ergo they lose their accounts.

I suddenly care again about them. God help me.

Klasodeth
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Klasodeth

Then people would be complaining that Valve will kill a developer over the slightest offense, instead of waiting until the developer does something like try to drown 100 Steam users under thousands of dollars of legal fees each.

galactix100
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galactix100

Yeah but it’s not the slightest offence. DH can be said to have been behaving in this manner for a long time before they took legal action. There have been plenty of points where Valve could have said enough’s enough but they didn’t until they got dragged into it because they clearly don’t give a fuck.

Klasodeth
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Klasodeth

Legal action and the significant expenses incurred all around are a far cry from arguing with people online and deleting posts. And sure, what Digital Homicide has done in the past may not be literally the “slightest offense”, but I’m describing a hypothetical counter-argument, not the actual reality of the situation.

If Valve didn’t give a fuck, I’d have expected them to happily pass along the subpoenaed info instead of doing something that would almost certainly lead them to being sued as well.

galactix100
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galactix100

What I mean is it’s only now that DH have become an inconvenience to Valve that they’re actually dealing with this. It’s clear that any sort of behaviour will be tolerated/ignored if it’s not going to embroil Valve in a legal battle because up until now they’ve done nothing.

Klasodeth
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Klasodeth

But Valve is deliberately inconveniencing themselves now by taking a course of action they knew would result in a legal battle. If they had just left Digital Homicide alone and quietly provided whatever information was subpoenaed, they could have avoided the legal battle.

William Jones
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William Jones

To reiterate, it is a fundamental human right to be allowed to have a case heard in court. Valve have attempted to interfere – and I know in this case in context, – it’s a civil, not a criminal case, they are probably saving the court some time and expense. However, it is not valves place to decide who can and cannot go to court. This just feels like enough of a step on a slippery slope for it to be worth talking about

Anton
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Anton

Where are you getting the idea that they’re interfering with court proceedings? They’ve already been subpoenaed by the Arizona court and have to fight back legally.

William Jones
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William Jones
They have removed the games from steam, and by the timing, it was in response of the subpoena – they game out a message, that message was subpoena us and be gone from our service. A subpoena is not an aggressive action, DH thing valve legally need to release those details, Valve think they do not. The legal system will decide whether there is enough of a case for Valve to need to hand over those details, but by removing DH from steam, valve have made it commercial suicide for any others to take the same action. I think the… Read more »
Anton
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Anton

A subpoena is an incredibly dangerous thing for valve. If they set a precedent of giving away customer information to every asshole with a frivolous lawsuit, customers will flee.

And, as I said, as long as everything they do is legal- and refusing to do business is- I’m ok with it.

William Jones
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William Jones

Have you actually read what DH are complaining about – some of that shit is fucking foul, absolutely bang out of order, and the little slimestains who wrote it should be fucking paraded around the world as the rape threateneing lowlifes they are.

Anton
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Anton

1 – I have trouble believing anything DH complain about. I wouldn’t put them past creating these accounts and threatening themselves.

2 – IF we’re gonna go after every rape-threatening lowlife, you’re gonna have to subpoena every forum with a gamergate presence. Good luck with that.

William Jones
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William Jones
1) Fair point, but again, if they supoena their own information, that becomes public knowledge and we will all know what they did. If by some miracle Valve are ordered to hand over that account information, and it’s visible to all that DH were the harassers, then they will have noosed themselves, tied themselves to a scaffolding and left the industry in charge of the lever – the system will have worked. This way however, it feels like Valve lynched them! I’m not saying I don’t want them gone, I do, but the right way, not like this. 2) This… Read more »
Anton
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Anton
Well, think of it this way; maybe DH manufactured 5 “extreme” accounts under fake names. That lets them sensationalize the situation and drag in 95 other people. Those 95 can still be sued for money (in theory), and the 5 fake accounts don’t have to contain personal information, so that won’t get tracked back to DH anyway. As for point 2, I think that will get revisited regardless. At some point, some asshole will cross the line from online harassment to real abuse, and then the law will take this shit seriously. Entities like Valve really don’t have much power… Read more »
William Jones
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William Jones

And also, we all know this is going to be laughed out of court – this subpoena is bound to fail, it’s of literally no risk to valve. The brothers will approach the courts with a request and be told, in more formal, legal speech to piss off.

Anton
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Anton

You say that, but they already got a partial victory. Valve is now obligated to give up the names of the harassers, barring a successful appeal.

William Jones
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William Jones

I heard that they got the hearing – it’s news to me that a hearing has already been held and decided in DH’s favour, can you tell me where that news has been released?

Anton
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Anton

“James Romine of Digital Homicide was granted the subpoena by a federal judge in Arizona”

It’s not DH who got the hearing – Valve needs the hearing to reverse the decision.

This is from a Polygon article (google it).

William Jones
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William Jones

And that same article goes on to say “Valve has the right to contest the subpoena at a hearing.” – The hearing is where it will be decided, The “supoena” itself is a writ ordering that hearing – this is all business as usual

Anton
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Anton

I guess we’ll see. To me, this reads as DH currently having the upper hand with Valve maybe having a chance to reverse it.

William Jones
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William Jones

I mean, I could supoena you if I knew your email address, demanding to know your Grandma’s pasta recipe. I wouldn’t because you would murder me at the hearing, I would in all likelihood have filled it out wrong, but I could!

Anton
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Anton

Brb, hiding grandma.

William Jones
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William Jones

heheeh! No-one can hide from the badly written pro-se subpoena!

squirrel_killer
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squirrel_killer
Valve legally has to hand over the information when subpoenaed, Valve is only required to hand over the information, they are not in fact interfering by no longer selling the games and that information will in fact still exist despite the game’s being taken down. We are also talking about a studio with bad reputation as is, and very likely was on bad terms with Valve who will put its customers first if only for cynical reasons. If someone less controversial did it, like say the guys behind Ark due to some specific death threats that got close enough to… Read more »
William Jones
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William Jones
It’s less about what is happening with this case, and far more to do with what happens when a studio we like is getting harassed and death threats. Will they feel that they cannot have their legal right to confront their harassers, because if they do, Valve will ruin them. That’s why I’m angry – Valve will do what valve will do, they are a corporation no different to any other and they will pull every bs move to get their way. You may as well be angry at bears for catching salmon or dogs for licking their own testicles.… Read more »
squirrel_killer
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squirrel_killer
Due to legal reasons I can’t say much because of I do not know how much I legally can say because I know Valve contracts are draconian as fuck and want not one in trouble and I am unfamiliar with US law being a Canadian, but there HAVE been at least a case where far less controversial studios have done the same as DH, on a much smaller scale mind you, targeting specific threats that contained something very worrying, and Valve didn’t make an example of them like DH. It isn’t a great thing, and well it would be worrying… Read more »
William Jones
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William Jones
I don’t want any one else to get into trouble, please don’t!!! I know I’m not going to change anything, I just want people to take a slightly different look at the situation, and just remember, Valve is not our friend, they will screw us all if it brings them better financials at the end of the year, and I for one won’t go quietly! And I absolutely an angry at DH – Valve is valve and will continue to be valve – that’s OK. DH gave them a gimme, but I believe they may have hurt the industry as… Read more »
kimiyoribaka
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kimiyoribaka

“Valve is not our friend, they will screw us all if it brings them better financials at the end of the year, and I for one won’t go quietly!”

This may be minor within the overall point, but I don’t think this matches Valve’s history. If anything, Valve’s biggest flaw is looking too far into the future, even when they’re having trouble keeping up with the present.

squirrel_killer
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squirrel_killer
Yeah I know what you mean, but then the other half of your car wreck analogy comes in, where you are so mortified that you CAN’T look away. This… well I feel bad for DH, I believe deep down they at one point wanted to make a good game, and thought that if they threw enough shit at the wall eventually something would stick. The issue is, none of it did, and their best bet when Jim chewed them up the first time would’ve been to take what he said and considered it and focused on taking what he said… Read more »
ATBro
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ATBro

Most likely, Valve shutting down DH’s store front is only a way for them to freeze the case in place. It will be easier for everyone involved if the parameters of the case are fixed, without continuing to add more fuel to the fire on a hour to hour basis.

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

The only message is: there is a line, DH, and you just crossed it. It baffles me that somebody tries to defend DH actions at this point. I mean, they sent a subpoena because of third-party actions! If Valve keeps doing business with them, nothing says DH won’t sent them another legal BS when they run out of people they can blame.

William Jones
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William Jones

Don’t mistake my criticism of Valve for defense of DH, please!!

CaitSeith
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CaitSeith

Fair enough

Camilo Fernández
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Camilo Fernández

I totally agree. It’s such a shame that DH was the one to make this move, given their own track record of harassment and abuse.

If this was done by reasonable people with a compelling argument, it could spark a debate that could force Valve to give a fuck about what happens in it’s servers.
Which I believe is something that eventually has to happen.

Milestone_RP
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Milestone_RP
One man’s “harassment” is another man’s “freedom of speech”. On Steam, Valve and the people they hire as moderators are the final arbiters as to what constitutes “harassment” when people post on any part of their service, and they are the ones who are to mete out punishment as they see fit. If “that certain publisher” felt they were being harassed and it was impacting business, they already had avenues they could have used via Valve and Steam to deal with it. (And yes, that INCLUDES “death threats”. If someone uses Valve’s service does something like that, the onus is… Read more »
William Jones
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William Jones
This kind of highlights my point – there are clear, well written laws which establish exactly what harassment is, and define it as a criminal offence. This is clear and set in stone. It is written about, tested and practiced by people who have law degrees and decades of experience with the law. But you’re giving the minimum wage steam forum moderators, if they aren’t volunteers, the power to make decisions as to what does and does not constitute a crime in the law as written. I’m sorry, it is not Valves job or responsibility to become a law enforcement… Read more »
Archdruid Kromas
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I am sorry but constantly updating content is not finishing the product. Half the core game-play features are not even in and things promised “in the next week or so” (Truesky fix,dx12) we are still waiting on for more than a year. Most people have been worried about this game for some time before the DLC debacle and this just proved that they would rather shove content as fast as possible instead of improving the game for a quick cash grab before the game gets shut down as just another stomping lands.

09philj
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09philj

Is Minecraft in Early Access?

William Jones
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William Jones

Not any more, it was released a year or two ago

Wolfie
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Wolfie

Actually… it was in late 2011…

Man I feel old.

William Jones
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William Jones

Good lord! So do I!!!

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

No it’s released.

But I wouldn’t call it an Early Access game on the basis of it actually feeling complete and every update feeling like a quality of life improvement.

Plus it showed how to to do it right in a time before people found out the possible profit of selling unfinished games.

I AM A TENT
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I AM A TENT

Version 1.0 of the game was released in 2011 (november 18)

Janio
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Janio

The java version is maintenance so i get it. The version for Windows 10 is still in Beta (was free if you upgrade a pc to windows 10 from 7 or 8). Why the programming its going so slow at microsoft for the windows 10 one is really weird.

Dave Dogge
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Dave Dogge

But you get to fist dodos up the backside …. I was referring to Ark’s content and not Digital Homicide of course.

Anton
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Anton

Dodical Fisticide

Anton
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Anton

They deserve all of the money just for making a game where I can spend an hour boxing Dodo birds.

Seriously though, this video seems a bit representative of why most people nowadays don’t have a principled objection to scummy dlc or microtransactions in their favorite games; they are so goddamn desensitized to the whole thing, they’re just happy that their favorite game’s DLC – say, something like Overwatch – isn’t the worst thing ever.

Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

< << won't play buy/play Overwatch because I find concept of everything being relegated to mystery misery chests about as repugnant as it gets.

Anton
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Anton

“But, it’s like, totally optional, man!”

– Average fan response.

BeantownBeatdown
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BeantownBeatdown

That response has always baffled me, some times I think it’s sarcasm other times guys legitimately feel as though products in the core game, some integral for competition are “100% optional bro” while they are wearing all these kitted out “optional” perks and refuse to game with anyone without said “optional” perks.

SmaMan
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SmaMan

~~downvotes, deleting/burying if possible~~

– Average fan response

Anton
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Anton

“Why do you hate video games, man? You’re just a fucking SJW trying to ruin it for everyone”

– Depressingly common “fan” response

Unnoticing Senpai
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Unnoticing Senpai

incidentally, Paladins on Steam is literally Overwatch, but it’s free and pretty good.

Jack Trevor
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Jack Trevor

Try “SMITE” and even then I would compare it more to Battleborn.

I’ve seen gameplay of it and it’s definitely a MOBA with FPS elements. And that’s not a bad thing.

Gurp
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I just watched the “Available on Steam!” trailer and immediately spotted the Reinhardt and Roadhog clones. Looks cute, though, I might give it a whirl.

Unnoticing Senpai
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Unnoticing Senpai

Apparently the game was way different before it launched, but has since been repurposed into an Overwatch clone. As far as clones go, it’s pretty spot-on, although the Ult’s aren’t as interesting..

Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

I’m uncertain if I can accurately gauge how Jim feels about Konami.

alextulu
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alextulu

Steam shouldn’t allow DLC on early access in the first place.

Bashtarle
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Bashtarle

I’m OK with F2P Early Access games pushing costume packs and other tat but I’m very against paid games in early access pushing content oriented paid DLC.

I get that the Arc devs probably need money but they likely could have leveraged their good will to push some “fund raising” skins/re-skins and either held the content until after launch or pushed it as free to generate even more good will/new sales.

Batmatt
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Batmatt

If we’re going down that road, Steam should have a time limit for a game to stay on EA too, among many other things.

Wolfie
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Wolfie

All that would do is punish legitimate companies; no game is equal, and their development times aren’t equal either, not to mention too many variables that can cause a game to be delayed, such as sudden appearance of crippling game-breaking bugs and what not.

alextulu
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alextulu

“no game is equal, and their development times aren’t equal either”

Then the developer should specify, how much time they need, when they put the game on early access, and then after that time expires, the game is automatically taken out of early access.

Wolfie
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Wolfie

That’s not how it works. There’s a reason ETAs are given instead of hard schedules. If a huge bug comes up that can cause serious damage, such as crashing or wiping saves, that’s not something that’s expected and can take time to fix.

You really think restricting them to a hard schedule is going to help? It’s not. It’s going to cause more problems than solve.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

We can issue a soft schedule… But each delay will be a mark on the game’s name.
“Shooting Boglins with Pogs. ETA April 2017 (was delayed for 3 months)”

Wolfie
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Wolfie

I suppose so, but they were talking about strict “This time here or you’re out,” which would only hurt good developers.

I mean, they could do your idea, but I’m not really sure if that’d be of any particular value to most people to know how long it’s been delayed… unless it turns into the next Duke Nukem or Last Guardian.

alextulu
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alextulu

Or maybe, Steam could allow games to be postponed for a short amount of time, like a few months, but definitely not for a few years. That would be too much.

Wolfie
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Wolfie

That’d be more acceptable, cause you do have to take into consideration that shit happens and it can cause delays.

alextulu
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alextulu

Having an ETA only works with games, that are not in early access, because the developer can’t sell the game until it is finished.

But if a game is in early access, not having a hard schedule means, that there is no incentive for a developer to actually finish the game.

Batmatt
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Batmatt

Sure, but I find hard to believe that a game that still needs three years “in development” should be able to sell copies for whathever price. Make it an open beta or whatever, if the developer in such good faith. We’re talking about YEARS after the game has been put up for sale. I don’t know, it all seems too sketchy to me.

Wolfie
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Wolfie

Three years is fairly average (though a little on the longer side) and isn’t all that uncommon.

Pauli
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Well, depends on the types of DLCs of course:
Soundtracks and all kinds other collectibles (concept-art-books, etc.), I’m personally totally okay with.

Expansion-packs and such, eh, debatable; certainly not without well before-hand informing or otherwise releasing as a surprise.

But this is also coming from a person who wouldn’t do any type of “Early Access” or “Alphas” or “Betas”: Just wanting to release early-versions of the games / softwares and such; ah the joys of open-source-developments, for example.

Lysere
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Lysere

So I totally didn’t read an article about the developer you totally weren’t talking about only to see that they were apparently going to try and hit Valve with a lawsuit for pulling their stuff.

If they spent as much time on their games as they did trying to sue everybody maybe they’d actually have a decent game.

Daniel Jensen
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Daniel Jensen

Who would have thought customers don’t like it when you use the money you gave them to finish a product… to invent more ways of asking you for money?

Also, I’ve been religiously following the ‘thing’ that’s been happening over this weekend (partically because I have a sneaking suspicion I’ll be part of it). There is not enough popcorn in the world.

The Jünger Ludendorf
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The Jünger Ludendorf

What might this “thing” be, if I may be so bold to ask? *throws XXL bag of popcorn in the microwave*

Marcello Crocitti
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Marcello Crocitti

KOBRA STUDIO??? Damn Jim, you got me. I was SURE you were talking about Lord Kres and journey of the light.

rabelford
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I like to think of the boglins are your legal team.

thegreatpumpkinking
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thegreatpumpkinking

shhhhhhhh thats a secret.

Jim Sterling
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Let’s face it, with the quality of legal threats I receive, an armful of Boglins would be adequate defense.

Sperium3000
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Sperium3000

Someone better call a fireman doctor, cuz that burn was TOO sick!

thegreatpumpkinking
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thegreatpumpkinking

once that thing you don’t talk about is over. I hope you will be kind enough to do a reenactment for us “ladies, gentlemen and boglins of the jury”

would it be possible to give us a sign of how things are going. Maybe out of nowhere you can spike a football American or euro your choice or maybe help a boglin to fly if things are good.

Chris
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Chris

Hey Jim I was thinking it over this morning… Please be careful. [REDACTED] seems to be destroying their own lives, but that likely won’t stop them blaming you for everything. If they lose enough (income, marriage, custody of children, etc) they would likely still blame you for losing everything even if the courts disagree and might become… dangerous. Please be safe. I would definitely shed a few tears if I woke up one day to read about Jim being shot affter opening his front door.

Dave Dogge
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Dave Dogge

All that [REDACTED] have to do is to dissolve their company, get their mum to be the company director of a brand new company (hopefully using her maiden name) and then create new content / games under their new company. Dunno what they’ll do about their back catatalogue of games though. I dunno who in their right mind buys their games, is it just hapless Steam game collectors or really naive buyers ….?

Artemiy
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Artemiy

Bah, they’ll just wank together some new games.

Artemiy
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Artemiy

I like to think that Jim is like a Power Rangers monster in that regard: killing him once will only make him grow.

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