The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Review – Broken Sword

A little bit Tri-forced.

Developer: Nintendo
Publisher: Nintendo
Format: Nintendo Switch
Released: March 3, 2017
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is a beautiful game with a richly detailed world. It’s packed with things to do and places to explore, doing an incredible job of turning Hyrule into a vast expanse of possibility as opposed to a sparse field with gameplay sprouting off it like spokes on a wheel.

At its absolute best, Breath of the Wild offers some of the most absorbing experiences a Zelda game ever has.

Unfortunately, it makes you work harder for it than you should, buried as it is under a pile of small but constant irritations that collaborate to form a thick crust of frustration around a delectable center. Breath of the Wild is a delightful adventure, one that tries its utmost to be as big a pain in the arse as possible.

Ganon is back, and this time he’s dispensed with the mystery. No longer working in the shadows before his ultimate obligatory reveal, he appears from the start as Calamity Ganon, an apocalyptic version of his porcine form swirling around a devastated Hyrule Castle

Link awakens after a failed battle against Ganon’s forces 100 years ago, having lost his memory, his strength, and his legendary sword. Zelda’s spent the past century trying to keep Ganon restricted to the castle, and now it’s up to Link to do the thing he does best and come to her aid.

After a brief introductory phase in which Link solves some puzzles, acquires a full suite of magical runes to help him get around the world, and learns the typically rudimentary plot, Hyrule opens itself up like a Smart Home in the wrong hands and from there players are able to go and do as they wish.

Theoretically, it’s possible to march from the starting area to the castle and fight Calamity Ganon there and then. Of course, the chances of actually surviving more than a second or two are incredibly slim, and that’s even if you can get through the nigh-impervious mechanical Guardians that patrol Hyrule Field and are merrily capable of one-shotting even more prepared adventurers.

To stand a believable chance against Nintendo’s favorite canned evil, Link must travel to the familiar homes of the Zora, Rito, Gorons and Gerudo, solving their problems and subduing the Divine Beasts – gigantic, animalistic constructs once piloted by legendary champions and now corrupted by a naughty magic pig.

These beasts each have their own detailed quest lines in which Link must travel to and then align with the disparate peoples of Hyrule. They also serve as the closest thing to traditional dungeons in the game, though they’re more akin to four gigantic puzzle rooms with concluding boss fights than the intricate, deadly sprawls offered in past games.

Puzzles are the central component to the unbelievable amount of Shrines littering the world. These mysterious places activated once Link got his Sheikah Slate, an almost cringeworthy in-universe Nintendo Switch that Link uses as a map, telescope, and fantasy multipass, and they are the key to improving his health and stamina.

Some are found in plain sight, while others need coaxing out of the ground or can be found at the end of side quests. Once activated, they become a handy fast travel point and offer a unique puzzle or (rarely) combat challenge, usually short but often just tricky enough to stimulate the brain.

The majority of these puzzles make use of Link’s runes – including bombs, ice blocks summoned from water, a stasis effect, and a magnet that can place metal objects anywhere in range. Motion controls are obviously employed for several of them because this is a Nintendo game, but they’re mostly cleverly designed and the rewards are crucial to both survival and long-term enjoyment of the game.

Nevertheless, it’s an odd decision to constantly break immersion and flow by halting the player and giving them yet another weird little puzzle bunker that seems like it doesn’t quite belong in this world and reeks of a game that knew it needed traditional Zelda dungeons but didn’t know quite where to shove them.

Yes, every shrine is technically optional in the same way not rocking up to Ganon’s front door and assaulting his forces with a tree branch is – you can do whatever you like, but if you want to have a solid chance of actually succeeding, there is a proper, preconstructed way of doing things, and the proper way of handling shrines is to complete them on sight lest lose track of them – finish as many of them as possible, as close to all 120 of the bloody things as you can.

Given the additional “difficulty” of Breath of the Wild, it’s more crucial than ever to have a solid health supply, and I’ve put “difficulty” in quotes because the main way in which this game tries to be tough is to make most enemies highly absorbent and more than capable of dropping Link in one or two hits.

Rather than fully mimic the Dark Souls combat it half-heartedly aims for, Breath simply pumps up the monsters’ ability to do damage, resulting in a lot of one-hit kills even once Link finds and upgrades some decent armor or puts a lot of shrinework into gaining heart containers. It’s a cheap and dirty way of making any game more “challenging” and I can’t say I find it particularly edifying.

The other major point of contention holding back combat is – and you know I have to say it – weapon durability.

It’s hardly surprising the people of Hyrule can’t definitively put Ganon away since we’ve now learned their swords are made out of glass and wishes. Weapons break in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. They break a LOT, to the point where it starts looking absolutely pathetic, to the point where you wonder why every blacksmith in the world hasn’t been fired or thrown in jail for gross incompetence.

Weapon durability systems are never fun, and Zelda goes out of its way to make it as excruciating as it possibly can. While others have claimed that late game weapons are durable enough for it to not be a problem, I maintain that some of the more powerful weapons in the game are still miserably brittle, able to withstand maybe a handful of enemies before players get a nagging pop-up notifying them their fun with the weapon they might have been loving is about to conclude.

Once the weapon embarrassingly shatters, players will need to pause their combat – which is always something you want players to do as a designer – and select a new weapon to irreparably damage. Either that, or scrabble for something on the ground, even if it’s one of the hundreds of crap clubs that will be thrust upon Link right up until the end of the game.

Also, don’t get too excited when you find the handful of weapons that can be “repaired.” They can’t be. They break like everything else, and will need exorbitant resources spent with specific NPCs to reforge – exorbitant to the point of literally not being worth it. The only truly lasting weapon is the Master Sword, which itself comes with caveats.

Weapon durability has become a controversial talking point for this game. Some have defended it, claiming it’s not a big problem and that it “encourages variety.” I’m firmly among those who believe that it doesn’t encourage variety so much as it discourages using most of the cool weapons you find for fear of losing them, and turns their acquisition into something unexciting, almost disappointing.

Opening a chest to find another disposable weapon that I can’t get attached to is a letdown, not a reward. Never have I been so happy to just find 100 rupees at the end of a trial. At least I can invest those in something I might get to keep and enjoy, like a fancy tiara or a house.

When actually smacking enemies around, the game is quite satisfying. The monsters themselves are a big part of why, expressive and vivid as they are. During combat, they’ll scramble for their weapons, taunt Link, and excitedly jump around. If you disarm and steal their weaponry, they’ll react with horror or outrage.

Even when not fighting, they’re up to all sorts of chicanery – you’ll find Bokoblins hunting wild animals on horseback, or a bunch of Lizalfos huddled together chattering. I once found a couple of enemies making fun of some sheep. Why not, eh?

The way they move, sound, and behave is fantastic, and they react hilariously when slapped about the place.

While not a survival game by any means, Breath of the Wild does take some elements from the emergent genre, such as hunting and cooking. Hyrule is filled with animals to slay, fruit to pick, and bugs to catch, all of which can be turned into various meals and elixirs that not only heal Link but grant temporary buffs such as increased attack or defense, higher speed, health boosts, and stamina recovery.

Despite the awkward way in which food is cooked – you have to find a pot on a fire, then fiddle about in the menu to hold individual bits of food before manually tossing them in – it’s surprisingly fun to combine various foods and see what you get. Certain combinations can create intricate dishes with exceptional benefits, though throwing five Ironshrooms into the pot will definitely do the trick if you want a strong-as-heck defense bump.

Incidentally, I cannot recommend enough finding as many “hearty” foods as you can. Food with this property will create those temporary additional hearts, and you’ll be able to make dishes that grant up to twenty of the things at once rather easily. Hearty meals have saved my life on more than one occasion, and given that you need to beat four shrines for a single heart container, they’re the best way to keep you hardy enough to survive at least a couple of hits against most opponents.

Horses are found in the wilds and can be snuck up on and mounted for a cheeky ride. Any captured horse can be taken to a stable and kept for future use. You’ll be able to equip them with gear, though the finding and even use of this gear is obtuse and poorly explained, and rename them in ways that make the stable keeper’s dialog extra fun.

Now let’s talk about stamina.

If you’ve ever wanted to spend hours watching a little green circle get progressively less green, this is the game for you! A garish stamina wheel appears whenever Link runs, climbs, swims, or uses his paraglider, and not only is it ugly, it’s woefully inefficient to the point where even my fat ass could outrun this easily winded little sack of nothing.

It took four stamina upgrades – and remember these come at the cost of new heart containers – to get the stamina wheel to a point I’d find acceptable as the starting amount. By basically upgrading enough to have two stamina wheels, Link was able to sprint just long enough to not be ludicrous, and I had to solve sixteen shrines to get it that way.

Climbing and swimming, both potentially lethal activities if Link runs out of energy halfway into the endeavor, will eat up stamina fast and you’ll be wanting elixirs on hand if you plan any major vertical traversal. Link is apparently Spider-man now, able to scale even flat walls, but it takes a lot out of him and an excessive amount of time can be spent slowly plodding up mountains, watching that ugly green circle tick itself down.

Mountains and other high places become even more annoying when it starts to rain. It rains a lot in this game, and when it rains, you can’t climb. You can try, but Link slips so many times you’ll almost inevitably run out of stamina before you find a stable ledge to stand on. It’s one of those Nintendo things, where a silly little detail was implemented simply to have more silly little details regardless of how it actually affected gameplay.

If you were already halfway up a mountain before it started raining, you’re buggered. You’ll either need to hope you landed somewhere sheltered so you can start a fire (in another awkward bit of menu management and item holding), or abandon all your progress and paraglide to an inn or somewhere else that passes the time.

If none of those options seem viable, you can always wait. Just wait, wait, wait until the game decides you can play it again.

These are the sorts of annoyances Breath of the Wild is full of. Minor inconveniences and shows of disrespect toward the player’s time.

Enemy encounters that suck up your resources, cluttered menus that are a hassle to get through, the same old fucking cutscenes every time you open, enter, and complete shrines. Frequent interruptions when monsters respawn during a “blood moon” – the modern equivalent of Castlevania II‘s notorious “curse” text box.

Added to the weapon breakages and pitiful stamina meter, these otherwise inconsequential grievances amount to one huge collaborative wall between me and my enjoyment of the game.

I hate that this fresh Zelda is so committed to tripping its audience up and forcing frequent detours and stoppages rather than encouraging the variety others so adamantly laud. Yes, Breath of the Wild is packed with variety, boasts tons of content, and features some absolutely breathtaking moments – but when I reflect upon the overall game, the most memorable portions were notifications about how fragile my swords were and bright green wheels, because these “features” were inextricable built into almost all of it.

All that said, this is a good game, one you have to fight a lot. Simply exploring the world, climbing trees, hunting boars, all of this is terrific stuff. It’s amazing to finally roam a Hyrule that feels alive and lived in, more than just a hub or set dressing. I particularly love how NPCs can be found throughout the world, traveling to sell wares or fighting random monsters in the woods.

Varied environments, from deep forests to large deserts to the ever-present Death Mountain offer not just visual diversity but unique climate hazards. Link will need to eat meals with elemental resistances or otherwise find and wear special armor to withstand harsh areas, with particularly cold and hot places capable of harming him.

I fought my way to the Goron village without flame resistance gear, hurriedly running from hot spring to hot sprint in order to stop being on fire, and as tough as it was, it was an enjoyable kind of tough. I could have obtained some elixirs and done it more safely, but it was genuinely thrilling to survive the harshest climate possible and finally make my way to the expected flameproof armor sold in town.

A personal anecdote like that is part of what makes Breath of the Wild an accomplished production. There are so many little touches, so many optional paths, that players inevitably wind up with experiences unique to themselves. Whether you’re using magnesis to drop metal blocks on enemy heads or finding some unique solution to a puzzle that was unintended but works just as well with the runes you have, Zelda packs in a lot of special moments.

Try and get a Moblin to hit a Cucco. You’ve maybe seen the video already.

There’s so much to love it’s hard to list all the pleasing revelations. Of course you can drop a bit of raw meat in front of a dog and watch it happily eat up. Of course you can hit a barrel with stasis, hit it several times, and watch it fly into an enemy camp once stasis breaks and momentum flings it away. If you can imagine doing it, there’s at least half a chance Breath of the Wild anticipated your imagination and offered a reaction to your action.

Presentation is, unsurprisingly, as high as it possibly can be. Despite the Switch’s inferior resolution and graphical power, Breath of the Wild proves art direction beats horsepower by remaining gorgeous throughout, while the soundtrack is arresting as ever, employing familiar Zelda tunes only sparingly while offering some lovely original music.

Framerate chug lets the side down, especially in areas with a lot of tall grass and a number of encounters in or around Hyrule Castle. In one particular fight, the framerate struggled so much I was getting full-on freezes, while the starting area paints a terrible first impression of both the game and the Switch as a system. Much of the game avoids this issue, but certain places are just lousy, though it’s worth noting the game does perform markedly better when the Switch isn’t running picture to a television.

Draw distance is a problem too. You’re encouraged to use your Sheikah-Not-A-Switch as a telescope and scout out areas, but it’s hard to surveil an enemy base when you’re too far away for the enemies to appear in it. Sometimes I found myself not knowing whether or not a place was dangerous until I was close enough to be spotted by the danger, because it hadn’t been rendered yet. Other times I’d watch monsters blink in and out of existence, which doesn’t make for believable worldbuilding outside of a Wizrobe battle.

Oh, and the voice acting? Those performers using American accents are all pretty good, while the English accented ones are frigging shameful. Zelda especially sounds like such a wet blanket it’s almost depressing. It’s a shame they couldn’t find a better cast for what should have been an enthralling new move for the series.

One should be warned also that Breath of the Wild officially turns amiibo into the overly expensive DLC they were always criticized for being. A number of exclusive armor sets and weapons – as well as a full-fledged NPC ally – can only be acquired by scanning Nintendo’s toys, though interestingly the Breath of the Wild specific amiibo offer the least interesting rewards. If you want good costumes or special armaments, expect to buy a lot of plastic.

There is a laundry list of smaller complaints and points of praise that I could just trot out, but such comprehensive detail isn’t particularly necessary at this stage. It should be quite clear by now that this is a game I truly enjoyed and wanted to love far more than I did, held back considerably by frequent tests of patience that I more often than not failed.

Too many times does Breath of the Wild paint its players into corners rather than encourage “varied” playstyles. Too many times does Breath of the Wild force its players into performing mundane tasks or sidetrack their way out of the experience. Too few bosses are anything approaching memorable or exciting, while we’re at it.

Yet it’s an adorable game, a frequently exciting game, one with lots of cool armor pieces to wear and little secrets to uncover. Its menagerie of monsters is incredible and its massive, complex map is inspiring.

Truly, I wish I could say I understood what all the critics were raving about in their onslaught of 10/10 reviews, but I don’t. I see too many things getting in the way of the brilliance, too much repetitive busywork and full-on dick moves for me to say this is even close to my favorite Zelda game, much less in the top five.

Close, but no Triforce.

Also, it has Ubisoft-style radio towers in it. Really dreary, long, climby ones. Go figure.

7/10
Good

  • This is my declaration that an upcoming Jimquisition is about weapon durability, which I am posting here to make clear it was not a response to any comments in this thread. Some will assume it’s a petulant retort to whatever people are saying here, but I have no idea what will be said because nobody’s commented yet, so it literally can’t be.

    • SilentPony

      Unless you have a Delorean time machine.

      • Fallen Prime

        He doesn’t, dude.

        He’s UK-born. It’s a TARDIS.

        • SilentPony

          That’s racist! Jim can have a delorean if he wants!

          • Fallen Prime

            I don’t see race. I was never big into NASCAR.

          • SilentPony

            ….touché

        • Mark Blackburn

          Deloreans inventor was Irish bloke and bought out by an American company in 2005.

          • Fallen Prime

            Ireland and the UK are neighbors, but not the same country.

    • Xirbtt

      Don’t make Link a hoarder. Let him use his weapons. Don’t worry. You’ll find plenty to replace them! Use the mechanic like it was intended.

      Don’t make Link a hoarder. Use your weapons!

      -This has been a PSA from the Hyrule Council of Link What the Hell are you Doing.

      • Nutarama

        The problem is that I’m always afraid on some level that I’ll break my best weapon 5 minutes before a fight where I need it. It’s the same with FPS – unless I know I can get more ammo, the Super-Ultra-Mega-Gun will sit in my secondary slot and I’ll just hose down enemies with my starting weapon.

        Either I’ll find a place I’ll need that great weapon or I’ll use it to cheese a boss fight.

        • DeScruff (Sypran)

          I think the problem we hoarders are facing, is that we don’t know how or when we can replace certain weapons that we like.

          For the longest time I was hoarding Ancient ++ weapons… Till I found out every bloodmoon you could redo the shrine! Now I don’t care about them breaking, cause I know exactly where to go to get more.

          If I found out where I could replace the elemental swords that I like using for warming/cooling I’d happily use them rather then hoard them.

          • CaitSeith

            The rods also have that effect. But I won’t argue that elemental weapons are much better than rods for that.

          • Xirbtt

            Hint: if you want to keep a weapon store it in your first few slots, use your more plentiful weapons first that you get from camps. You’ll literally NEVER RUN OUT OF THEM they are constantly replenished unless you intentionally ignore them.

        • Xirbtt

          You find weapons with similar levels to the ones you have. Use them, pick up the new ones. Move on. It’s not that hard of a mechanic to wrap around. If you have a handy weapon to keep handy. DO SO. You have multiple other slots.

          • InfamousDS

            To cope with this horrible mechanic, the only weapon I have decided is worth keeping at all times is an Iron Sledge, minus the obligatory unbreakable weapon. It breaks ore deposits in 1 hit, is pretty common in places where they expect you to Stasis, has ridiculous durability compared to other weapons with its stats, the aerial slam is pretty effective stun, and it can 1HKO Stal-family creatures allowing you to kill them without wasting other weapons.

            Still a shitty design decision, working around it or with it does not negate that.

          • Xirbtt

            Haha, I must be playing the game way different than any of you but I always have TOO MANY weapons and can’t pick up new ones.

            You want to keep that electrical weapon for a special occasion? I get that, use some broad swords or whatever. I really don’t understand the problem at all beyond just being stubborn and NOT wanting to play the game. XD

          • InfamousDS

            I never said I had too few weapons. I said I had no attachment at all to any weapon, and thus I don’t have a preference/go-to/particular interest in them. Even the “unbreakable one” is never used except in emergencies because I can’t be bothered to waste it since it still technically breaks.

            When I find a new weapon, I take a pic with the camera and move on. If I have an open slot, I’ll find something nearby and immediately break it on them just so I can’t get attached to it like I have the extremely limited supply elemental melee.

            I love the game, but the only progression I have legitimately felt was in my armor. Weapons are shit, mate.

          • Xirbtt

            Weapons all attack differently and because they rotate out of your inventory make you try different ones. Sounds like you are brute forcing your way not learning the game at all.

            Did you every try a spear weapon? Did you know certain enemies are “weak” to certain types of weapons. I say “weak” but really I mean they counter this enemies particular move set or abilities so it’s always worth it to keep your weapons varied and not just a bunch of swords.

            Man, so interesting to see how people deal with this mechanic.

            I also love that you rate “progression” in game merely as numbers going up. That’s superficial. The TRUE progression in this game is understand the mechanics and the world, and you learn as you play.

          • InfamousDS

            Progression is a feeling of progress. Wow, my map has so many more icons now, I must have made huge progress! Oh, wait? I haven’t because I only have a shirt which proves I’ve actually been to these places? Well, shit.

            You are taking my issue with the game as me being too stupid to think out of the box. It isn’t that. When you actively force players to not use core mechanics (core being “available from the beginning, at all times, not unlocked in any way”), you have badly designed your game.
            Melee builds should not be considered brute forcing, and the Master Sword should not have a cooldown. The fact you call whether or not I’ve used a weapon type into question in a game where the only hope of keeping weapons is desperate scrabbling, unless you want to spend several minutes scoping out every location or running from every fight until you have a tactical advantage, is itself reductive and insulting. Which was probably the point of your whole post.

          • Xirbtt

            Not at all. As you progress through the game weapon durability goes up and weapon switching happens less.
            Melee builds are not at all what I meant by brute forcing. I mean, do all you use is swords? Have you tried other weapon types? Spears are still melee. Great swords or clubs are still melee.

            If you don’t like stealth in the game (which many don’t but I do) you can just run in and do it your way. That’s the STRENGTH of this game, but you seem to see it as something bad because you are intentionally limiting yourself.

          • InfamousDS

            You are incapable of reading words. It is the only conclusion I can possibly think of as to why you would continue to suggest I am not doing everything possible to conserve weapons while simultaneously treating my extremely valuable time as a priority, despite me specifically explaining I do in fact use all the tools at my disposal and see no point in extraneous out-of-the-box thinking to earn fuck-all in return for the time wasted doing so.

            Real example:
            I went east of Lakeside Stable (closer to the small village’s Shrine), and saw a Bokoblin Tower. It had 3 Blacks, 2 Reds, and 2 Blues. I used up 2 Knight Broadswords (one was about half durability when I started), as well as the 3 Spiked Boko Bats and a Soldier’s Halberd they dropped as I was killing them. I managed to scavenge back a single Soldier’s Broadsword, and they dropped 2 additional Spiked Boko Bows. They also dropped standard loot (about a dozen teeth, 4 horns, 3 guts and 10 arrows). My reward for all this was a chest containing an Opal and a chest containing 10 arrows.

            Working around or with a shitty system does not make it good. I said this 3 days ago, and I’m saying it again for the last time. I didn’t care what was going on when I was in the moment, but this is objectively bad risk/reward mechanics.

          • InfamousDS

            Because this is the first one listed in my notifications bar (fuck using the actual page or Disqus), I’ll just add this addendum now that my brain isn’t full of adrenaline and hate:
            I have complained more, on this site, than I have in real life to real people. It is a nagging thought that only scrolls through my mind when I’m down to my elemental weapons backlog and the MSword with nothing else aside from the Sheikah Slate. The game, as a whole, is a solid 9 when I’m not on the internet being angry at strangers (then it’s a 7, HYUCK!!!).
            If anything, I’m more mad at you for calling me unoriginal and stupid than I am at the game itself which made this discussion possible.

          • InfamousDS

            Read my other response first for context.

            Basically, my point in all this is that when a game’s core mechanic is “nothing matters, everything is worthless, forget keeping what you have” it is hardly surprising that many people would feel that way. Some will see it with rose-colored glasses of “be varied”! But when you make someone who actively loves the series second-guess themselves on whether or not it is worth the effort to use the Master Sword, you done fucked up.

            I haven’t given context to my fandom anywhere yet, so I’ll do it here. I played the original Zelda when it was new, and was immediately in love. I have bought and rebought every release of and in the series, including the cheap upgrades from the Wii VC to the WiiU VC. I carry around a Zelda 1 wallet, and have a Wind Waker wallet as my back-up. I have a Hylian Royal Family emblem as a belt buckle, that I wear pretty often. I own both a digital and hard copy of Hyrule Historia. I would have bought the board games, but I couldn’t budget for them. My family gives me Zelda merchandise for birthdays and Christmas, and I love it when they do. The only other series I have ever gone to bat for (Final Fantasy) has received considerably less attention from me overall. I liked Skyward Sword for what it was, not what I expected it to be. Same for Zelda 2.
            I play Zelda for their progression systems. A dripfeed of minor new mechanics and exploration options in the form of dungeon gear, overlaid on a very solid and well-built core mechanical structure. Hunting for heart pieces using my new toys, or just seeing where I could go by using them. That is gone in this game. So while I’ll still play it for weeks, and do my utmost for 100% completion, a lot of what I cared about in a Zelda game is gone. They took my toys away, and left behind the exploration that was only worthwhile to me because of the toys. The formula is dead (for now), and some of my happiness followed it to the grave.

            So when I am criticizing a Zelda, it’s probably a legitimate complaint.

          • Xirbtt

            You still progress in the game. They changed up the formula very well in my opinion. You don’t gain new items ESSENTIAL for making it past further parts of the game you start to UNDERSTAND the world and learn how things work together which make you better. In other words this is REAL progression of skill. Not fake progression by way of gating things off by required items.

            I have every Zelda game as well. My favorite one is Wind Waker. I kind of hate Zelda 1 and don’t care too much for Link to the Past. It’s forgettable. But still a well made game!

            This game gives you all the tools to progress early on and you learn how they affect the world as you play, it’s amazing.

          • InfamousDS

            The problem with the “Here’s a toolbox, build a bridge with whatever you find” style of game design is that it expects you to actually know how to build bridges. Some of us learn along the way and make great bridges, some of us look at our abominations with pride, some of us already know how to make bridges and the rest of us just get frustrated and walk away because we have better things to do with our time than learn yet another skill with limited application.

            I can waste an extra 2-5 minutes carefully planning on attack on that Bokoblin/Lizalfos camp. What’s my reward? Another weapon that I either can’t pick up at all or that wasn’t worth my time since unless I used no weapons at all it is a net loss and often weaker, a pitiful amount of money, a common gemstone, or arrows. Wow, all my time and effort was rewarded so well.
            Or I can just run in, kill them with their own weapons, and then continue to feel nothing about my equipment because it a waste of time to care about my equipment.

          • Xirbtt

            Also why are you hesitating to use the Master Sword? Man I must be playing this game SO DIFFERENTLY. I don’t freaking care if it loses power, it comes right back! I don’t see any problem with using it at all. In fact it’s better to use it FIRST to conserve your ACTUAL breakable weapons if you really cared about that.

          • InfamousDS

            I hesitate because it breaks, period. It ruins my ability to enjoy the game to suddenly not have the goddamn Hero’s Sword. Did Fi just decide to fuck over this Link? I can only assume so, since she is being a massive bitch about whether or not he’s truly the worthy hero.

          • Xirbtt

            Master sword doesn’t break. It loses power and is the only thing you never lose. In fact it is a good idea to use it first and always because if it loses power it just comes back in a few minutes back to full power.

            MAN, such a different way of thinking. I’m sorry its ruining the game for you.

          • InfamousDS

            A few minutes without a legendary, unbreakable sword that is several millennia old, sealed Ganon countless times, and has never broken or refused to help a true hero before is idiotic on its best day. It’s bad design and insulting at its worst.

    • Defron

      You probably need a 9999999 hours Master Sword to satify your incapability to prioritize and sorting weapon inventory

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      I’m actually really excited for your future Sonic reviews. Regardless of score, people will flip their shit.

      • Tord Laudal

        everything is subjective i guess, but yeah there is like one review or score of a game he has reviewed that i might get behind and thats undertale .

      • Gareth Andrew Case

        Mate. He would get DDos’ed if Sonic Mania got a 10.

        • Stephen Mc Devitt

          They would get angry if he praised a good Sonic game while they defend shit ones…

    • I think System Shock 2 was the first game where I was furious over degrading weaponry. Luckily there was a cheat I could plug in to disable it. Completely unenjoyable.

      • Nutarama

        I think it can be done well. Dark Souls 2, for example, had durability for weapons and rings. Most of the time you’d never notice, but there were a few items with low durability that were also very powerful, leading to a specific type of build that could hit like a truck but wasn’t good at prolonged fights or clearing entire levels. Add in an area or two with enemies or traps that directly attacked durability, and you had an interesting gameplay choice; either you got good at dodging or you played a less powerful but more sustainable build.

        • The later Fallout games did a good job with it, too, I think. I even forgot it was a ‘thing’ until I started thinking about it. Weapons would degrade gradually, and you could repair them on-the-go with similar weapons. It was just enough to keep it being a thing, but not get in the way. If BotW was like THAT, I could live with it.

    • Alex

      The most pathetic thing you have ever done Jim, I’m really disappointed, this game is a huge masterpiece yet you score it lower than kirby and the rainbow curse, what a fucking joke.

      • LamontRaymond

        lulz. You need to integrate more meats & cheeses into your diet. Maybe get some fresh air.

        • Alex

          The whole “you are salty” comments are really getting old, jim was very dishonest here, whether i’m salty or not it doesn’t change that.

          • Fallen Prime

            You repeating that over and over doesn’t make you right.

      • Fallen Prime

        Dude. Man likes his Kirby. I likes my Kirby. Don’t diss the Kirby.

        • Artemiy

          “Oh don’t you DARE say anything about my boxes! I LIKE MY BOXES!”

      • MyBodyIsReady

        The most pathetic thing he ever did was not like Zelda as much as some other people liked Zelda?

      • Kyle Key

        Keep crying.

        Breath of the Wild:
        – 900p in 2017;
        – predictable drops to as low as 20fps;
        – frequent low quality textures and geometry;
        – practically non-existent anti-aliasing;
        – forgettable, cliched “amnesia” storyline about saving Zelda and Hyrule from Ganon for the twentieth time, which tries inexplicably to be serious despite involving nonsense like blood moon resurrections, time magic and alternate timelines;
        – barebones voiceacting where the paltry amount included isn’t notable;
        – dialogue and written text–which would have to be incredibly strong to overcome a weak plot with no voiceacting–wouldn’t even pass muster for an average fantasy novella;
        – over-reliance on the busywork of inventory management;
        – logic-breaking “gamey” mechanics of materializing a paraglider in mid-air and climbing vertical surfaces (terribly animated) without anything to grab;
        – puzzle shrines, one of the most highly regarded elements of the game, don’t come close to the inventiveness of Portal or the challenge of The Witness.

        If you like good stories, great graphics, consistent performance, mature themes, and character development, Zelda is incredibly disappointing. If you don’t care about these things, enjoy, you’ll have a great time, but don’t act like these issues are non-existent for people who do value them.

        • MyBodyIsReady

          Oh shit Kyle’s dropping dem bombs

        • Oliver Twitt

          “If you don’t care about these things, enjoy, you’ll have a great time, but don’t act like these issues are non-existent for people who do value them.”

          Will do! *goes back to enjoying massive game lounging in bed tweeting tips, screenshots, and jokes to thousands of other like minded friends*

        • The gameplay criticisms are fair game, but I think the graphics in this game are being overlooked. The grass, fire, water, animations, lighting, weather effects and character models are all absolutely top notch, especially given the draw distance (for the environment at least) and the fact it’s being rendered at 900p, on mobile hardware too! Not to mention the art direction and world design are almost unparalleled as far as I’m concerned. Yes, the textures are muddy, like many Nintendo games there’s tons of aliasing, and the frame rate is unacceptable at times, but I feel given how stellar everything else looks, it still is one of the best looking games I’ve ever played.

          • Nutarama

            The thing about aesthetics like that is that they’re not universal. It’s great if it’s your style, but there are tons of different views on what “good looking” means. Personally, I’d rather have a constant 60+ FPS (for smoothness), even if the game looked like vanilla minecraft. Frame drops and stuttering tend to break my immersion.

          • CaitSeith

            Frame rate is less about visuals and more about gameplay IMO. Besides, games use retro and low res graphics as part of their aesthetics all the time. But which games use 15-20 fps as part of their core experience (and not because of hardware limitations)?

          • Tord Laudal

            yeah i guess the gameplay isnt for everyone , still less then a 8 eh i dont know, 7 is harsh, but then most ppl seem to think is at least 8… or even 10 eh what ever i wiill be lucky if i find a critic reviewer beside fuckings kotaku or something that i agree with

          • I see. It’s not a framerate issue if the still images inbetween look gorgeous. Except for the textures and the fact that things get a little pixelated on the edges, that’s why you get a 5-10 still images per second.

            To draw the viewers attention to the detailed details, every screenshot I’ve seen so far only features one type of tree or empty buildings. I guess otherwise people like me would get a stroke because our brain obviously is not able to process the perfection and beauty of it.

          • I mean that’s not what I said, I acknowledged there is a frame rate issue. Also I can tell you definitively there is more than one variety of tree in this game and there are many towns that look radically different, as I have been playing it. I suspect you have a Zelda-sized chip on your shoulder mate and you haven’t played the game or seen any proper footage of it in action.

        • Silvia Grünbach

          Stop being such a crybaby. OH THE FRAME RATE IS BAD OMG OMG IM GOING TO DIE!!! 900p… It’s 2017… OH GOD THERE IS NOTHING WORSE!!!! Seriously people like u should leave gaming or even better, exit the cult of Jim Sterling.

        • Tord Laudal

          perhaps, but then again some ppl like me hasnt had one fps drop. I dont think is forgetable either not close, is so fun to explore ,but then again i guess it is if ppl dont like that element…
          and when was games ever about logic… yeah i guess it need to be relastic because i freaking love the climbing.

          Played and love portal 1 and 2 , played them for 90 hrs and the shrines in tloz botw is just fun, s o disagree there too, but eh opinions i guess….
          shows clearly most often then not that i just dont agree with reviewers or most users these days, i find overall critic score or average user score across meta, imdb, hltb and gamefaq to fit pretty close tough

        • alboradasa

          “If you like good stories, great graphics, consistent performance, mature themes, and character development,” then why the hell are you buying a Zelda game? A series aimed at kids, focused on adventure, puzzle solving and exploration?
          And god forbid Nintendo use “gamey mechanics..” You would seriously prefer a game where you have to manually construct a paraglider every time you want to glide? Wow that sounds really fun.

        • DainLaguna

          Oh please kyle. The generalization that a zelda game has to have ‘mature themes’ or that this one lacks any is laughable at best.

          The story is phenomenal, despite the tropes (which a lot of games have).

          The voiceacting alone, however sparse, was better than what most games manage to muster.

          I guess if you’re complaining about how it looks when someone climbs something, then there is no pleasing you.

          HZD’s grass doesn’t light on fire when i shoot it with a fire arrow…must be the worst game ever amirite?

          I guess if you appreciate realistic animations, proper physics, a logical hud, and characters that don’t constantly knock on uncanny valleys door, I’ll leave something like HZD way the hell alone right? You see how silly that logic is?

          As someone who values all the things that you mentioned at the end of your comment, I’m here to tell you that your hyperbole is outta control. Get that shit on lock bruh.

          A note on performance: honestly, some of the greatest games ever made have performance hiccups. It’s never bothered me. Don’t assume that that type of things is so detrimental to the experience that the game is unplayable. Jim may not have given it a standing ovation, but it doesn’t change the fact that when your first ‘negative’ is ‘900p in 2017’, you’re probably missing the point.

      • Salador

        You’re calling Jim pathetic, while you’re liking comments telling another human being to drink bleach over a god damn video game.

        Get some perspective.

        • Alex

          I gave like that comment cause it was the funniest one, not because I want Jim to die.

          • Salador

            I don’t believe you. I think you gave that comment a like because, like Mariah, you came in here feeling some type of way and wanted to lash out at Jim for publicly denigrating something you like. Your comment in response to Jim is hyperbolic, emotional, and, like so many (possibly because the hatemob of zelda stans didn’t even bother to read the review) not even talking about the points Jim raised.

            And, even if I do believe you, the fact that you think that a comment telling someone to drink bleach over a video game is the funniest one here is also telling of how pathetic you are, and how much perspective you lack.

          • Silvia Grünbach

            Stop defending your leader. He is no God.

          • Salador

            Stop attacking him, he’s not the devil.

            He’s not my leader and I disagree with him quite often. I just think that here’s nothing wrong with him being critical of something everyone else loves, if anything that one critical viewpoint is valuable because it’s one of the few not blinded by hype.

          • Tord Laudal

            yeah so i am blinded my because is a 10? i didnt buy before the reviews got out , i excepted a good game and i got a excellent game so far. I dont think stamina problems is a fair criticzm perhaps bit, but eh i dont have any problem ,but eh opinions

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            In what way is ‘kill yourself for daring to disagree with me on a video game’ funny? It’s only funny if you’re the kind of sociopathic troll that give the rest of us gamers a bad name.

            Or if you’re like 12. In which case, please leave, this is a website for mature discussions of video game butts, sex toys and rubber fish helmets.

      • Chris Schwartz-Brown

        Well it is worse than Kirby and the Rainbow Curse clearly. And also Quantum Break.

      • Roc

        just because you like the game don’t get mad at Jim for being truthful. Many people like myself come here for honest reviews, because Jim is honest and he can’t be bought like those other jerkoffs.

      • Roc

        Personally what I think it all boils down to is this. A bunch of people spent 300 bucks for a system with one decent game, and they are defending that game to the death because without that game their purchase makes zero sense.

    • 1213 1213

      Serious question as someone planning to play Dark Souls soon: What’s the difference in terms of whether the difficulty is ‘artificial’ or ‘organic’ between Dark Souls and BOTW? I thought it worked in a similar way, with you taking high damage and that encouraging you to play in a certain way and actually feeling threatened or challenged?

      • Nutarama

        The real question is whether or not you can learn to play well enough to avoid taking those hits (and how much time that takes). The reason “git gud” is the rallying cry of the Souls fanbase is because with enough practice and learning, you can get good enough to beat the entire game – you don’t have to have to get lucky to win. Jim obviously doesn’t feel that the same can be said about BTOW, or at least he didn’t find the core gameplay engaging enough to stick around long enough to practice everything until he got the game down perfectly.

        • Markolius Funq

          I agree. The difference, I think, is: organic- practice/learning/skill can overcome difficulty. artificial- grinding can overcome difficulty.
          Of course, there’s always a bit of both (as there should be) but Souls has a ratio more like 80:20 O to A, whereas BoTW is probably more like 20:80 (idk I haven’t played it yet but based on the article).

    • Oliver Twitt

      I hope you bring up Apotheon. My issue with durability in other games is that it acts as an arbitrary timer. Like you’re always one town portal away in Diablo from fixing your weapon and it’s destruction doesn’t hamper you at all.

      But in Apotheon, Breath of the Wild, and a few roguelikes the durability there is to encourage you to switch it up. And I know you don’t like it as a mechanic but I enjoy carrying an army of disposable gear I don’t have to worry about protecting or optimizing. I can throw a claymore in a goblin’s face, pick up his dropped club, light it on fire, then beat him with it.

      • Nutarama

        I think it’s a difference in gameplay style. I’m like Jim in that I’ll hoard good weapons until I need them just because I don’t want to “waste” them on stupid mooks. If something will die in four hits to a basic sword, why waste durability on a claymore that will kill it in two?

        • Oliver Twitt

          I understand that gameplay style because I think it’s an inherent trait in gamers to hate impermanence, but it’s also frustrating when a well designed game comes along and encourages you to experiment. I can tell you after 20 years of playing D&D that players will do ANYTHING to preserve the 30 scrolls, potions, and wands in their bag of holding for “the right time” then blame the DM when their party is wiped because they drowned despite picking up water breathing spells in the previous room.

          And I think Zelda’s weapon system is well designed. There’s never an encounter where you can’t find a couple weapons nearby. If you’re completely empty handed you can use your bombs to knock down most smaller enemies who will drop their weapons and you can pick them up. And if you really have to, just run away! If you move far away enough from their hangout spot, nearly every enemy will give up even if you’re within line of sight. Unless you’re farming, unlocking a chest, or doing a quest there’s no benefit from killing everything you see. You’re not getting experience points so if you want to play optimally it’s totally a waste to fight everything.

  • ConradZimmerman

    Glad I got here before the comments.

    • Michael Alexander Seiler

      I´m glad you´re here no matter the time.

    • George

      I’m glad you got here too. I look forward to this weeks Spin Off Doctors. 🙂

    • James LaValle

      You don’t know how lucky you are. Also, loved the last spin off doctors

  • spyro2060

    Oh, I can’t wait to read the salt that will pour from the frothing mouths of the Nintendo fanboys

  • Fallen Prime

    I see two things inevitably happening here.

    1. The site will chug fairly badly from traffic, because Zelda, and this page is gonna fail for a bunch of people.

    2. The diehards are gonna call for your head because you “only” gave a 7 to a Zelda title.

    You should be well prepared for both of these by this point. I’m just gonna sit back with popcorn.

    • RaikuNH

      Or 3 itll be NMS all over again and this site will be DDOS’ed over this.

      • Fallen Prime

        That’s on the more extreme side. I’m dealing in plausible outcomes based on repeated trends with popular reviews.

    • Sned

      To be fair, people giving the game 10s were accused of being paid off. This thing happens either way.

      • Ian

        You really can’t win when it comes to fanboys.

        • CaitSeith

          Maybe with a 10/10? /s

    • TimKovich

      Shame I don’t like popcorn, else I’d join you.

  • Francis Jairam

    Before everyone loses their minds because of the score, Just to tell everyone just because he gave it a “7/10” doesn’t mean its “Bad” it means “Good” there are problems but its good, everyone has different tastes, perspectives on how they look at games so don’t get so triggered of what he says. Don’t let the review discourage you from buying the game its how he feels about it and you don’t always have to agree with what he says. If you love the game thats fine but don’t be such an asshole to say it didn’t get a high score.

  • Steph

    I figured it would be something close to a 7. From what I’ve seen it looks good, but not 10/10 worthy.

  • Rob Hestar

    It’s a shame the frame rate is so bad,especially I hear on the wii-u (which would be the system I would get it on).Also, breaking weapons in games is just DUMB..who ever thought that was a good idea!

    Seems like it’s a fun game still,just not best game ever as everyones been saying. I still look forward to playing it..Good review Jim

  • Afroduck

    ‘simply pumps up the monsters’ ability to do damage* ‘ Great review anyways Jim

  • Morgoth

    Oh, boy. Not a perfect, shiny, beautiful 10? Nintendo fanboys will eat you alive.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/268f90e2256a413cd4f919cd20cd66474b4e1c0d2a13279816a7143b805d18fe.gif

  • Sned

    While I disagree with you on this, I can understand your points, and I’m sorry that you did not have as much fun as everyone else with this game.

  • Lewis Cowen

    Yeah, this is about my experience too. Just curious, Jim, what are your top 5 Zelda games?

    • Lewis Cowen

      Saw he tweeted it.

  • ChapaNDJ

    Nintendrones inbound to your location. Run Jim, run!!

    • Pocket Nerd

      Prepare for many outraged cries of “CLICKBAIT!!” and “AGENDA!!”

  • Thank you Jim for not giving this a perfect review. I have been playing the Wii U version since launch and while I think it is a fantastic game, it’s not perfect.
    Put aside the horrific frame-rate issues and it being ugly in parts, some things are just annoying.

    Like I have done the Zora part and currently doing the Gerudo part, without risking spoiling anything for anyone who doesn’t wish to know, the gimmicky part before you can enter the dungeon is annoying the shit out of me, it’s just boring and annoying.

    The ball shrine was dumb, I hated how it forced motion controls onto you. Guardians are annoying, the weapon breaking seems just unfair most of the time and the voice acting is terrible. I wish I could switch to Japanese, but nooo that’s too hard for Nintendo.

    7/10 is a honest score I can respect. Thank you.

    • RaikuNH

      The bird people really don’t have that. Its just a small extremely easy trial and youre in the dungeon.

      • Haven’t done them yet, I have heard Gerudo is the worst one. I didn’t mind Zora, I thought it was okay, but I have heard the other two are fine as well.
        I just happened to choose Gerudo second and got hit in the face with annoyance.

        • RaikuNH

          That stealth section can go fuck itself.

          • Michael Alexander Seiler

            It´s technically possible to fight your way through… just as it´s technically possible to beat Gannon with three hearts and a supply of tree branches.

          • RaikuNH

            It is but it’s next to impossible when the enemies can 1hko you.

          • Michael Alexander Seiler

            That´s the technical part. 😉
            I did manage to fight myself through the first room once, loosing a bunch of weapons in the process.

          • RaikuNH

            I was able to as well (mainly so I can get a pic of their sword) but it was still bullshit about the 1hko enemies.

          • Yeah, it was a strange limbo thing that. It wasn’t actually too hard to skip everything, so it begs the question why they made such a big deal out of it.

            The hardest thing for me in that entire section was not knowing to look for a secret wall once you get into the room. I was running around ages confused.

          • Michael Alexander Seiler

            Well there was a tiny hint. They had metal chests buried in the sand there, hoping to encourage the player to use the Magnet rune. Honestly I didn´t pick up on that the first time I made it through though.

          • Yeah I figure that was the clue later, but I was ignoring the chests on the ground. Instead I was looking for other abstract things, like thinking I had to burn something ect.

  • Sean

    Fair review I think. Still playing through myself but I do agree based on what I’ve gotten through so far that there are a lot of little things that are irritating.

  • Michael Alexander Seiler

    No mentioning of all the frogs?

  • irfanf (IrfanF)

    Funny thing is, I agree with practically all the Cons Jim mentioned in this review, but if I have to give a score for the game, it would definitely be at least an 8, since the good parts significantly beats out most of the cons

  • buzzardslicer

    The framerate is no worse than bloodborne on launch, which was awarded a 10

    • Michael Alexander Seiler

      And it´s weapons didn´t break every other breath you took.

      • EM87

        Because they didn’t need to, unlike with this game

      • buzzardslicer

        Weapons breaking would be annoying in BB, but they work very well for BOTW’s gameplay

      • Carter

        There were about 10 weapons in the entire base game, if they broke you’d definitely be in trouble.

    • Bloodborne shouldn’t have gotten a ten either tbh.

      • Michael Alexander Seiler

        I dunno, it had gross slime babies. That´s pretty good on its own.

      • vegemonsta .

        Bloodborne is the best game ever made. Stfu you stupid idiot. You are very very very stupid boy.

    • Ha! It’s worse than Bloodborne’s, easily.

      • SSVAV

        No it’s not, I just can’t comprehend how a game with terrible frame pacing, constant sub 30 fps no matter where in the world you are or what you are doing, and with abysmal load times, in a game where you are expected to encounter load screens frequently, can *somehow* be better than Zelda (on a technical level).

        I’ve been playing this game for days not and while I won’t say performance is where it should be, the fact is that drops are sporadic and freezes are extremely rare. On the other hand, bloodborne is a game that spends more than half of its screen time missing its 30fps target.

        I’m calling bullshit.

        • Adam Benevides

          Bloodborne doesn’t have any of the issues it had on launch. Just so you know. The actual mechanics of that game are just superior to BOTW.

          • SSVAV

            That’s so great! That is also completely worthless in this discussion! Reviews are written on a game’s release, and Zelda has not had the luxury of two years of patching Bloodborne had!

            And your claim that the mechanics of Bloodborne are stronger than those of Zelda is also completely worthless because for one they are not the same genre, so of course they don’t share the same mechanics, and two, different people like different things, so as a matter of fact I don’t like the souls game so no matter how good a souls game is, I still won’t enjoy it!

            PS: You spend 100% of your time fighting in Bloodborne, of course the combat is better in Bloodborne, duh. How much time do you sped solving puzzles in Bloodborne? Or how much time do you spend questing? You get my point.

      • buzzardslicer

        Each play-through is different. But I only saw drops in some forest areas. Bloodborne drops to low 20s as much, if not more than zelda. I also found tha Zelda’s frame drops not lasting very long except for the forest on teh great plateau while when BB dropped it lasted much longer. Bottom line is, they’re both of comparable performance

      • Winsday

        LOL – no, it’s not. And I love Bloodborne and BotW. This clickbait shit review was a new low for you. Just awful.

      • Travis Touchdown

        You know, it’s amazing to me to see how the ‘frame rate police’ shit on games they’ve never played for NOT having a stable frame rate… but then it’s okay when something like, say, Dark Souls does it.

      • Alex

        You are lying, Bloodborne had similar problems, you are just making a shitty clickbait review to feed the haters because your audience is mostly Nintendo haters, you are disgusting.

  • zferolie

    I don’t mind the weapon durability myself. I find it fun finding new weapons, managing them, and what not.

    But Its our opinion Jim, if you don’t like it, don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise… not that you will hahaha.

    I myself think this is one of the most fun zelda games I have played since Twilight princess. Going around as femboy Gerudo link is so fun 😉

  • Zaruian

    “I don’t understand why things are designed the way they are and I’ll just go on to complain about everything that doesn’t conform to instant gratification in this one game that tries to be daring and respect player intelligence while also complaining about poorly imitating other games without considering it may be doing it’s own, similar thing instead of a half-hearted imitation.”

    Not exactly the first time this happens, but one of the most blatant cases… guess I’m done with giving a shit about your reviews.

    • Nathan Aldana

      “I’ll define everything nintendo does as daring and assume that a reviewer whio doesnt agree with me is malicious and evil so it doesnt hurt my feelings”

    • CX316

      aww, he hurt your fee-fees

    • Fallen Prime

      They make a cream for that.

    • Chris Schwartz-Brown

      Don’t pretend that you ever did before. You came here to act like an asshole because you saw this on metacritic. Now you can fuck back off there.

      • Zaruian

        saw it on jim’s twitter, actually. I was curious about his overall impression since it seemed like he was mostly enjoying it outside of weapon durability and rain, but didn’t expect that he’d nitpick at virtually every detail about the game that doesn’t prioritize instant satisfaction.

        • Chris Schwartz-Brown

          So you didn’t think he’d review it? How dare he have opinions on it.

          This was obvious from the podcast last week, or to anyone who follows Jim’s work. To people just looking to pick a fight though I’m sure it was a total “surprise” so you can feign shock and dismay and desperately try to get his attention by declaring loudly again and again you’re never coming back.

          • Zaruian

            never said I didn’t think he’d review it, just that I didn’t expect so many nitpicks in his opinion. Not that I have a problem with nitpicks in general, I’m also a very nitpicky gamer, and just as I do, he liked it enough to ignore them. my problem is with how he failed to notice the design purpose of that many “issues”.

            On the other hand, this is the first and last time I claim I’m not coming back. I mean, I rarely check his reviews anyways, only for games I’ve played/intend to play, but I guess why seek to make myself angry when this is what happens most the time I check.

      • EM87

        Review isn’t even up on metacritic yet lol

    • “guess I’m done with giving a shit about your reviews.”

      Thank fuck.

      • Zaruian

        I mean, your jimquisitions are usually pretty great and on point, but whenever I read your actual reviews, I always get the feeling that “you’re missing the point” at a few spots. This time, though, the whole thing reeked of it.
        Not hating on you, Jim, I guess this type of game just isn’t the best suited for you(and that’s the kind of thing that makes me distrust reviews in general, usually for the better), but I just had to point it out.

        • BlargleWargle

          For basically everything you’ve said I could explain why you’re wrong.
          But I’ll just focus on this: “I always get the feeling that ‘you’re missing the point’ at a few spots. This time, though, the whole thing reeked of it.”

          It is his OPINION.
          Christ, why can the Zelda Defense Force never understand this.

          • Zaruian

            Please do, explain why everything I said is wrong, I’d love to see you try, given how vague I was about every single one of my comments.
            And how does this being his opinion matter at all when my point is that he missed the reason why those things work the way they do?
            I’m not even being defensive of zelda, I’m just tired of, after finally seeing a game that has a reason for everything it does, rather than “just because, that’s how games are nowadays right?”, people still complain about how pointless that stuff is.

        • CaitSeith

          More than “you’re missing the point” is like “you don’t like the things that I don’t mind”. Different people like different experiences. You can’t force someone to enjoy a game if the game doesn’t provide the experience they like, or things get in its way. If there are things that get in the way of Jim’s, chances are high that it will happen to other people too.

    • Zaruian

      I don’t have the will nor energy to deal with ignorant comments, so I’ll just say this: I don’t care that he didn’t like the game. I’m not a fanboy, and I definitely don’t think the game is perfect. I certainly can tell it’s not for everyone.
      I do care, however, that many of the reasons he gave for disliking it are pretty much BS. For literally every single “flaw” he points, I could describe a reason why it’s not that bad and it serves a greater design purpose.
      And with that said, I’m off, cause anybody defending his critique after pointing this out is pretty much missing the point.

  • EM87

    Weapons durability is treated like ammo, and most of the gameplay systems wouldn’t even work without it. The “ubisoft towers” are towers that work like the fish in Wind Waker and Tingle’s maps in Majora’s Mask, games that came out much before than any ubi game that used them. Nice try tho, and this review clearly has nothing to do with your hatred for Nintendo *wink wink*

    • Fallen Prime

      Wow. I didn’t think they’d be passive-aggressive when they started. Normally it starts as seething unrestrained fury.

      • EM87

        Just wake the fuck up mate.

        • Fallen Prime

          I’ve been up for an hour and a half. Tried to sleep longer, but I was a bit too alert for it.

          • Anton

            See, this is why I keep a bucket of Nyquil under the bed.

            Also, my dog is always drowsy for some reason.

        • Chris Schwartz-Brown

          Exactly! Wake up sheeple let! It is impossible for someone to be bothered more by a games flaws than you! It can only be a sign of bias, or perhaps collusion!!! Everyone is required to have exactly the same opinion on ask things, that’s how reviews work.

          One very important question though. Does this have have fish helmets in it?

      • Passive-aggressive is stock and trade for salty Nintendo review comments. Takes a while for it to rev up to pure rage.

        • Michael Alexander Seiler

          But when it does it goes 1-2-switch.

          • Fallen Prime

            Damn you and your puns.

        • Anton

          You’d think these people would be happier, given how bright and colorful their games are….

          • Watchmedance

            They’re trying to fit in with the big kids by talking trash and cussing, like Nintendo is trying to be an actual competitor with Sony and Microsoft.

          • Anton

            Ohhhhhh snap

          • Watchmedance

            I couldn’t help myself…

            I guess I better lock my doors and change my passwords now.

          • Fallen Prime

            Remember Unravel?

          • Anton

            Whutnow?

        • EM87

          I’m seeing tons of salt too Jim, but it’s not from Nintendo fans comments!

          Enjoy ranting like a 10 years old on your next video though, bye

          • Shane Tripp

            “I’m not angry though?” -EM87

    • 7_13

      Yeah. Because Jim is famous around the universe for rating and reviewing videogames according to the dickheadedness of their developers…

      I think that’s a fair, well reasoned review.

      • EM87

        Think twice then. He’s twisting two big pros of the game, so either he’s ignorant enough to not understand how basic game design works, or he wrote that crap for the exact reason so many people thought he would give the game a bad score. You choose.

        • James White

          Jesus, mate, he just disliked that particular feature of the game (7/10 still means he liked it). It’s all down to personal opinion. If you think the weapon durability is a good thing, then that’s fantastic for you. Go play and enjoy it instead of being angry about someone disagreeing with you.

          • EM87

            I’m not angry though? Pointing out the obvious doesn’t mean being angry. Giving 7 to a game because you didn’t like one mechanic that is essential to how the entire gameplay system works can only mean two things. Either you’re ignorant as fuck about how game design works (which can easily be the case with Jim, as he proved countless times) or you have some kind of an agenda (which, considering his recent Nintendo videos, shouldn’t be that surprising either). If it’s the latter though i’m not sure if he thinks that Nintendo actually gives a fuck about his 7, is he expecting them to wipe their tears with the millions this game is going to make for them? Lmfao

          • Fallen Prime

            You’re getting really salty about a positive review score.

          • James White

            ah okay fair enough your calm and reasoned response has proven me wrong

          • EM87

            There’s a guy in the comment section calling him a “fat cunt” or something, i think you should be able to see the difference between me pointing out these things and a true “angry comment”.

          • James White

            Yeah sorry I mistook your impassioned statements of opinions as facts to several different commenters and general statements of annoyance at the review as being a tad upset but I have been proven even more wrong with each comment.

          • Watchmedance

            He pointed out several issues he had with the game, not just one. It’s not like he wrote “Weapons break, and it’s total bullshit. 7/10!”

          • EM87

            Like i said in another comment, spinning how some key points of the systems driven gameplay work to make them look like something that detracts from the experience, when said experience wouldn’t even be possible without them, is certainly not a valid point to make.

          • Watchmedance

            It sounds like the ridiculous weapon durability system detracts from the system, and the game wouldn’t suffer from it being removed. Sounds awfully valid to me.

        • 7_13

          “Big pros” is your opinion based on your preferences. How basic game design works is completely irrelevant when you are not enjoying it. Reviews are always opinion pieces. I don’t know why you would think Jim has an evil agenda behind everything just because he disagrees with you on a videogame. And I am not saying that he is right, how could I know I don’t give a fuck about consoles, especially from Nintendo. I am saying that his points are well reasoned and therefore this review is good. In the way of a journalistic text about something entertainment, not a religious text.

          Besides…
          And 7/10 is still 2 points above average. I know people tend to forget that this is a decimal scale, because somehow certain websites and their followers seem to consider everything under 9 as “unplayable”… But: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 are in there as well.
          And I wished they would be used more often… Generally.
          And when we set basic functionality with light entertainment as 5/10 some AAA releases wouldn’t even reach THAT at launch.

          • EM87

            Well you at least gotta admit it’s “odd” to see a 9.5 to Fallout 4, an 8 to FFXV, a 6.5 to the Berserk Musou and a 7 to this game, right?

          • Fallen Prime

            It’s almost like he has different opinions about each of those games.

          • EM87

            Nah, it’s almost like he didn’t nitpick on the major flaws those games have, unlike the spin he did here with weapons durability. Not to mention that F4 had much bigger frame rate issues at launch than Zelda, and that was on much more powerful hardware. Still, only one of these games got “punished” because of that.

          • Fallen Prime

            What fucking punishment? He gave it a 7. 7 is a GOOD SCORE.

          • Nathan Aldana

            “its almost like I want to see shadows where none are because it fits my personal internal narrative of a game I consider part of my identity as a gamer as sacred”

          • Tyler Szabo

            Not really, scores are just bullshit summations of how you as a reviewer enjoyed your experience. At the end of the day it’s the point they brought up that you should think on and decide if those issues are enough to make you not want to play the game.

          • EM87

            Spinning how some key points of the systems driven gameplay work to make them look like something that detracts from the experience, when said experience wouldn’t even be possible without them, is certainly not a valid point to make. So what you’re saying is kind of confirming what i’m implying here.

          • Fallen Prime

            It’s not a spin. He did not like those design choices.

            And in spite of the design choices he did not like, he gave the game a positive score.

            Because a 7/10 is a positive score that reflects that Jim Sterling had a good time with The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

            I think you’re being intentionally obtuse at this point, because I’ve not seen you respond ONCE to the assertion that a 7 is not by any means a negative score.

          • EM87

            7 is not a bad score per se, but it is a lower score than this game deserves, not matter how you see it. Even more so when the same guy gave flawed games like WD2 and F4 a 9 and a 9.5 respectively. Let me ask you this though: did you even play the game?

          • Fallen Prime

            Buddy, I’m a Walmart stocker. In what world am I going to afford a Switch at launch, and where in god’s name would I even find one right now?

            But just because Jim had more problems with certain mechanics than you did and enjoyed them less as a consequence doesn’t mean he lied about them. I don’t have to have played the game to see you’re just cunting it up over a total non-issue.

            If you really need your opinions validated, Jim’s friend Laura gushed over Breath of the Wild. Go to Let’s Play Video Games, and maybe come back when your head’s out of your rectum.

          • EM87

            Wow you’re really stupid as fuck. I’m not even talking about things he liked or didn’t like. I’m talking about things he willingly FLAT OUT LIED ABOUT to try to make the game look worse.

            He talked about “ubi towers”, but he failed to mention two things:
            1) they don’t work like ubi towers at all. In ubi games, you go on a tower and get the map bloated with indicators for every single poi in that certain zone of the map. In BotW, you just get the fucking map geography. This is the same thing that happened when buying a map from Tingle in Majora’s Mask (2000) or when you fed shit to a fish in Wind Waker (2003). In a game with such a huge amount of verticality, that same gameplay function is now achieved by a tower, because that’s what makes sense with this kind of world and level design.
            2) that there’s an environmental puzzle around each and every one of them. So even getting on the fucking tower itself is a puzzle. This doesn’t happen with ubisoft games.

            He also said that you can’t keep track of the shrines, which is blatantly FUCKING FALSE. They’re your warping points and they even have a different color on the map if you didn’t complete them.

            He also said that you NEED to go through the shrines and improve your stamina to progress in the game, which again, is NOT true. You absolutely DO NOT need to do that, you can get off the Plateau and go straight to the final boss. Or you can wander around for 200 hours without ever entering a single shrine. You can even complete the shrines and never use the orbs you get for doing that. It’s up to you.

            So yeah, calling him out for his bullshit doesn’t mean i need validation for my opinions. Maybe he’s the one that needs to get his head out of his ass… or you, considering you’re defending him like he’s your husband but you didn’t even touch the fucking game.

          • Se7en_Th1rt3en

            I admit it’s odd, seeing pages long texts summarised in a x/y score at the end in the first place.
            Or people fighting over it. Or losing their shit completely (holy crap some of the comments here…)

            And since the written word will always be the thing I go by, I can’t really give you an answer to your question. Jim liked Fallout 4 very much. I didn’t. The other games I don’t have / know about. (As I said. Don’t own a console.) And I don’t compare games’ ratings.

            [btw, sorry for the late answer, I didn’t get a notification of the reply for some reason.]

    • Morgoth

      Now say it without crying.

      • EM87

        Now say that again with my cock off your throat.

        • Morgoth

          Dunno about that. You seem the one doing the cocksucking to Nintendo here. 😛

          • Michael Alexander Seiler

            Hey, don´t diss cocksucking.

          • Spectre197

            Damn son I want to congratulate you on winning this part of the internet today. Here is your prize of 10 internet points.

    • MeriwetherMalodor

      What’s it like being a pathetic loser fanboy?

    • Nism

      Or maybe he just has different tastes than you? Why can’t opinions be valid and not simply dismissed as “you just hate Nintendo?” People like you are part of the problem.

    • Michael Alexander Seiler
    • Your points were at least somewhat sound, until you brought in that condescending attitude.

      • EM87

        Yeah i just thought i’d get on the same tone as the review.

  • JeronimoPW

    I didn’t play the game yet, but a friend of mine from Austria, a big Zelda fan, gave BoTW 8-10 judging the same things. I don’t know if BotW is the most overrated game of all time, but he think it is. Ocarina of Time is still the best Zelda of all time for him.

    • EM87

      Does your friends’ uncle work at Nintendo Austria?

      • JeronimoPW

        No, he’s my childhood friend, we grew up playing video games together, he moved to Austria in 2004

  • Kuroda Nakamura

    I figured the praise had to be over the top. Its the newest Zelda game, and no one wants to make Nintendo mad, so they’re overly generous with their praises.

    • steve2911

      Bear in mind the game’s been out for over a week now and the playerbase largely loves it. It’s a bit rich to say, based on one review, that everyone was was ‘too generous’.

      • RaikuNH

        At east it’s not SS 2.0

        • CaitSeith

          But I loved SS… 🙁

      • Kevin Wilson

        You have to remember that any one who has bought a Switch currently will be a Zelda/Nintendo fan, they have just forked out a hefty sum for the console and game. I wouldn’t trust one of these opinions to be honest.

        I guarantee every single person that owns the game will round up their scores at least.

        • steve2911

          a) A lot of them, sure. b) Buyers remorse is usually a thing. People hated TP after buying a Wii for it. c) People who got it on their existing Wii U seem to like it.

    • Sned

      I mean, Jim’s the exception, in this case. I don’t think reviewers have any real bias. I’m enjoying it, but you really just have to play it yourself.

    • Powermad80

      This kind of comment is just as dumb as the people who whine about games being given too low a score. 78 reviewers just don’t want to actually honestly review?

  • RaikuNH

    Eh. I give this game a 8.5. Still love it but some of this stuff in it does not make this game perfect.

  • I agree with most of this, actually. I do like it a bit more than you since I don’t mind the busywork. I think that if Nintendo scales back the size of the world a bit and adds in more unbreakable gear that doesn’t come with caveats, they’d have a winner here. As it stands, I would rank it in my top ten, maybe even top five. But most surely not the 10/10 everybody is boasting about. And I got a fucking Zelda tattoo on my hand…

    • vegemonsta .

      It doesn’t have real dungeons, so that kind of holds it back a lot. I love think it’s the best Zelda they’ve made so far, but that doesn’t make it a 10/10.

      • I’m actualy not that big on dungeons. I don’t mind them, at the same time I also don’t focus on them. For example everyone keeps telling me that Wind Waker has the worst dungeons, yet I don’t mind as I love the game in general. So yeah, this game doesn’t have any real dungeons but that’s okay for me 🙂

      • Don’t you consider the Divine Beasts real dungeons?

  • Andy

    Oh Jim, I can help but think the high profile of the game has driven the score down here. The game has been nothing but fantastic for me, fully deserving of the reviews and as othersuch have said bloodborne seems to have been given a free ride for its frame dips. I’ve played both and they are both outstanding. Maybe I should transfer my patreon funding to Laura…. 😉

    • Fallen Prime

      A. Jim has given GLOWING reviews to some seriously high-profile games. He’s even been blasted for going more positive than almost everyone else for Fallout 4.

      B. He’s done this RECENTLY, just this past week, with Horizon: Zero Dawn. 9.5, by my recollection.

      C. Chugging framerate was FAR from his only grievance, and why you latched onto that as opposed to other issues escapes me.

      D. Buddy. Friend. You can fund both.

      • Carter

        I’d like to say there are some inconsistencies in his review scores though.

        The new Berserk game got a 6.5, and this got a 7. Maybe I’m wrong but I’d have thought that Zelda is a vastly better game, even with its issues.

        • Fallen Prime

          It’s not inconsistencies with the scores. It’s inconsistencies with your tastes compared to his.

          • Carter

            I mean you could call it subjective, yeah, but I’d personally say Zelda BOTW is objectively a better game than Berserk, in every single aspect.

          • Rachel McVeigh

            You can’t compare the numbers at the end of reviews like that. One game could be a 7 cos it was fun in spite of a ton of flaws & another could be a 7 cos while it was fun it’s flaws were annoying and reduced the enjoyment of the game. That is why reviewers write their opinion of the game in detail.

          • Carter

            I guess you’re right, the best way to get a more ‘objective’ score on a game is to look at Metacritic, and Zelda’s 98 to Berserk’s 66 tells a broader tale. That’s the only reason it seems a little weird that they were scored so closely by Jim.

            This is his personal opinion though so I can’t really argue with that, but I wouldn’t put it past Jim to score Zelda game with an ‘out there’ score just to get at Nintendo or something. (We all know how much he loves to make an example.)

          • Tyler Szabo

            The way to get a more “objective score” is by reading the review and deciding how much those grievances mean to you. The score itself means nothing on Metacritic or elsewhere.

          • CaitSeith

            Metacritic, objective? Bwahahahaha!

  • Mariah

    Drink bleach, you fat miserable cunt.

    • Kuroda Nakamura

      You mad bra?

    • Fallen Prime

      THAT’S more like it.

      Sorry, you were beaten to the punch some prick who’s masking his grievances with passive-aggression. Bit more maturity, maybe some self-awareness.

      Also, way to upvote yourself.

    • Totally a rational and proportional response to someone not liking a game as much as you.

    • AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    • Gabriel Macys

      You must be what religious fanatics are like

    • Jacob

      You really don’t help.

      While there are points in Jim’s review I don’t agree with. He makes a lot of valid points. For me this game is a 10/10 because this game sings to me. But I can however understand and see why to others it’s not 10/10.

      There are gameplay mechanics which are marmite to people. Which I enjoy but can see why others would not.

      You my friend. Seriously need to get over yourself and understand people have different opinions than you.

    • Go back to your echo chamber you cultist fanboy c*** 😉

      • Also, upvoting your own comment XD

      • Fallen Prime

        You can say cunt. You may have a changeling in your pic, but I surmise you’re an adult.

        (I kid, I appreciate the show. The fact that I could identify the changeling probably proved that.)

        • Anton

          I think he meant cuc*

        • (Good to find people like you here, and ya, i’m 18 XD)

          ok then, let me try again 🙂

          ahem

          Go back to your echo chamber you cultist fanboy cunt 😉

    • Leafy, you made it!

    • TimKovich

      Holy shit, featured! That means he’ll listen.

      (Unless, y’know, he doesn’t kill himself over negative comments to a game review)

    • TimKovich

      Oh-ho! Private account, for the truly brave! Good on you, Mariah. Good on you.

    • elwasho

      So I take it a 7 would of been fine for you if the game released in December because I hear you don’t want a lot for Christmas.

    • If you can’t actually read, have a grown-up read the review for you instead of just looking at the score numbers. You don’t have to face illiteracy alone. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f0461c8469a8b7666b778eac4ec829eec6f1e8eeec1c2fc8f740401b44aeda8f.jpg

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      Shame… Shame… Shame…

    • CyanManta

      Behold, your entire internet legacy. It is your creation and shall stand as a testament to you and everything you stand for, now and forever. Praise be unto you for your glorious laundry libations and complete lack of human decency. Long may this comment stand as a testament to your greatness.

  • Anton

    ….aaaand the metacritic garbage people have arrived.

    • buzzardslicer

      The community that bombarded BOTW with zeros?

      • Anton

        No, the other kind.

    • galactix100

      I’m surprised it took this long.

  • MeriwetherMalodor
  • spyro2060

    Time to read the pond scum comments

  • galactix100

    So does this mean that I should buy Quantum Break instead?

    • Quantum Break at least didn’t have radio-towers.

      • Powermad80

        The radio towers in BotW make actual sense though. You actually use them as vantage points to scout your next move and look for points of interest instead of them just bukkake-ing the minimap with objective markers and then you jump into a convenient bale of hay.

        • I have BotW, aside from the tutorial area where you can spot all the shrines, I never really found the vantage point it gave useful again.
          I have found far more useful vantage points from climbing on top of the games mountains (like the box-art shows).

          Towers just come off as gimmicky to me.

          • Powermad80

            Fair enough, mountains are really useful but personally every time I’m about to go exploring a new area you can bet I’m starting off staring out in that direction from the top of the nearest tower.

          • The only thing I can say I have found useful about towers is how it is a visual waypoint to tempt me off the path into going into a new zone.

    • Chris Schwartz-Brown

      Or even uncharted 4, either of them are clearly objectively better than Zelda.

      • Nathan Aldana

        Its adorable watching people act like review scores are a hard and fast system for “how this game stacks up to all other games of all genres ever” instead of a “this game’s merits felt like they rated a good, not great” and then freak out when their precious isnt rated “the bestest game to ever exist”

      • galactix100

        Technically buying one is buying the other because they’re basically the same game.

        • darksteel6

          I don’t really see that.

          • galactix100

            Ah you must be new here. Jim reviewed QB and U4, giving them the same score which upset the fanboys so he ran with it.

          • darksteel6

            Oh yeah, i’d forgotten about that.

            Both games are good in their own right, though if there is another QB game, I do hope they drop the live-action stuff.

  • vegemonsta .

    I can’t disagree with your criticisms, Jim. I too find a lot of minor annoyances in the game to be bothersome sometimes. The game does so many other things right though, that they hardly bother me. For me this is the best Zelda game ever made, because it appeals to the explorer which Zelda was originally created for. I wish the dungeons were actually dungeons. I wish the bosses were distinct and memorable. The story is simplified and contrived. The enemies can be overpowered. Despite, knowing this I always find myself lost in the incredibly detailed world that Nintendo gave us. This is one of those games where a number score really doesn’t do it justice. You’re either going to get annoyed by the little things, or you’re going to find them negligible in the long run. It’s a great game, no doubt.

  • Jordan Doyle

    Someone had to be honest amidst the nostalgia driven, deliberately ignorant 10/10 reviews of Nintendo’s attempt at an Ubisoft game.

    • Powermad80

      How the hell can it be nostalgia driven if it deliberately throws out tons of the old established conventions that people have nostalgia for in the first place?

      • Jordan Doyle

        Because it’s Zelda. It could be a shit emoji dressed in green and people would score it highly based on name alone.

        • Carter

          I’ve heard this argument before. You could be right.

          OR Zelda games might just generally be good, and once again the same developers have come up with another good game.

          But nah, you’re right, any 2nd, 3rd, 4th title in a highly rated series is just bad no matter what anyone thinks, and its all nostalgia and hype.

          • Jordan Doyle

            I never said it wasn’t good. 7/10. A good score. No way in Hyrule is it a 10/10 game, however. This game is incredibly flawed. That’s nostalgia talking.

          • Carter

            ‘could be a shit emoji dressed in green’

          • Jordan Doyle

            Could be =/= is

          • Carter

            The point still stands, doesn’t it?

          • Powermad80

            Alright so by your logic no personal tastes are involved, 78 reviewers are all just nostalgia blinded or paid off and the one person that wasn’t blown away is clearly the only honest one.

          • Carter

            That’s the most likely option, yeah.

          • Nathan Aldana

            I mean a 7/10 is still a Good score. Its not like jim went 2/10

          • Carter

            I’m replying to the comment, not the review.

        • Tvirus Getz

          you sound like people giving this game high scores personally offended you and that Jim’s ‘low’ score of 7 made you nut uncontrollably

          • Jordan Doyle

            ..Because I agreed with someone giving a game a 7? Which is a good score for a good game? >.>

      • HerbertGW

        Because people wear nostalgia like the proverbial rose tinted specs. It colours everything they see. I would have thought that was self evident.

  • Carter

    Fitting score, I’d certainly say it’s .5 of a point better than Berserk And The Band of the Hawks.

  • Gabriel Macys

    So, as far as difficulty is concerned, given the way they’re handling it, would you say it’s the Metroid Fusion of Zelda games? 😀

  • seriouslynow

    I just love reading these comments from salty zelda fans despite being a pretty big zelda fan myself and enjoying this game a lot. No reason to get angry about someone not liking the game as much as you. Keep on commenting, I’m sure Jim also gets a laugh or two reading some of the comments. I can see why Jim disliked some parts of the game, there are a lot of annoyances, but it’s still game of the year material for me despite those.

    • Carter

      A lot of people here defending Zelda aren’t angry, I don’t think.

      This is a message board for us to comment our opinions, and we’re doing that.

      (Obviously there are some idiots typing extreme comments but that’s not the majority of it.)

      • Fallen Prime

        Mariah and EM87 did speak, the latter being a gift that keeps on giving.

        • EM87

          How exactly are your comments more mature fam?

          • Fallen Prime

            For one thing, I’m not the one who just said “fam.”

          • EM87

            Nice try, i can see why you like jim’s reviews

          • Fallen Prime

            Funny thing? I’m mainly here for the Jimquisition. I don’t even come to his reviews on that regular a basis. Guy knows his shit when it comes to the industry, and that’s my main pull.

      • seriouslynow

        If you are salty and you are a zelda fan then you are a person I talked about, if not then not. I didn’t mean everyone commenting here who is a zelda fan is angry.

    • Sned

      I agree. People have the right to their own opinions, and someone else disagreeing with you doesn’t diminish my experience of the game any more for me.

    • Clémy-sensei

      I’m a huge Zelda fan and I love this game, but really, Jim makes very fair criticism of it and it won’t make me enjoy the game any less anyway. Some fans REALLY need to chill and accept that it’s not perfect.

      If they want to look at praise for the game, they can just read one of the 10/10 reviews the game had and call it a day.

      But overall I thing most Zelda fans are just “*shrug* fair enough” and move on with their lives.

  • James White

    Weapon durability (and to a lesser extent the stamina meter) is what I’ve been most skeptical of (I’ve not played the game yet and won’t get the chance for a while) as it’s ruined games such as Dead Rising and Dead Island for me. I’ll still end up playing this but this review seems to more or less confirm my concerns – the tone I got from other reviews was more people sweeping that annoyance under the carpet and justifying it to themselves as a good thing because of how much they loved the rest of the game which I can’t complain about. I’ve done it plenty of times in the past.

    • darksteel6

      At least in Dead Rising you can find books to make weapons last quite a long time and in Dead Island and Dying Light you can actually repair weapons and it’s not ludicrously expensive to do so.

      • James White

        True, though I have so little time for the mechanic that I couldn’t really get through it in Dead Island, though I’ve not played Dying Light. I’d like to disagree with Jim once I eventually play it, so I guess I’ll have to wait and see!

  • Jules Badguy

    Well there’s always one guy lol. Witcher and This so far this Gen are tops.

  • E Robb

    Sounds like rather than engage with the living world they created you just sat back and sighed at it as a game. Don’t think of the rain as an invisible wall. Think of it in terms of immersive gameplay. It’s a thunder storm, dude. You can’t climb a sheer cliff face right now. Find an alternate route, or make camp.

    • Anton

      ….but…. it is a game….

      • E Robb

        A game that tried to create organic systems. A physics engine and logical problem solving. You’re supposed to poke and prod at it’s mechanics. It’s meant to be emergent.

        • Anton

          You can say the same thing about No Man’s Sky, but that does not a good product make.

          • E Robb

            Difference being BotW has things it’s it’s vast open world. It’s packed with things. I can’t imagine you played the game to make that comparison.

          • NaughtyOttsel

            It can be as packed as it wants, doesn’t make it fun.

          • E Robb

            I disagree.

          • NaughtyOttsel

            Ok?

            I disagree with the people saying the whole game is flawless fun.

          • E Robb

            Why are you only confused by my opinion, when you’re proud to state your own? It’s okay.

          • NaughtyOttsel

            I couldn’t care less about your opinion

          • Carter

            Mate come on you’re replying to every single one of his comments.

          • E Robb

            Then why are you bothering to respond? I didn’t come ask you for anything. If you don’t want to engage with me, all you have to do is stay neutral. You won’t find me coming to involve you. I promise. Just sit still. Don’t type. It’ll pass.

          • Anton

            I dunno brah, I think NMS is a little bit more “vast”

        • Fallen Prime

          Sounds like there was emergent frustration with the elements you’re excusing in Jim’s case.

          • E Robb

            I’m not just excusing them, I’m praising them. It’s good game design.

          • BlargleWargle

            And it can be his opinion that it’s bad game design. It’s an opinion, not a fact.

          • E Robb

            Yes. And just like he voiced his opinion, I’m voicing mine. This truly is a crazy world we live in.

        • CX316

          an organic system where when you run out of stamina while climbing a mountain you hurl yourself backwards like you just got punted off the side of the mountain by a giant?

          • E Robb

            Uhh yeah. If you were climbing a mountain without a rope, your physical endurance would be a factor. And could lead to a fall. Are you joking?

        • Chris Schwartz-Brown

          And no one is ever allowed to like those emergent systems less than you do.

        • Xirbtt

          The rain affects foes too. Your sound is muffled in the rain making sneak attacks easier. Bugs and wild life are easier to catch. Electric weapons become POWERFUL AOE attacks that can stun multiple foes at once. Your horse takes shelter under trees if you left it alone in the rain. You can’t use fire to fight in the rain, or burn up enemies camps, weapons. Like wise it doesn’t happen to you either.

          But noo, all rain does is make things slippery and I can’t climb a wall for a few seconds. Bad game design. 😉

          Sorry Jim. Still love ya.

          • CaitSeith

            I agree with Jim here. Being that Link can climb pretty much anything under normal conditions, rain limiting this to such prohibitive degree is frustrating.

          • Xirbtt

            Man, if only there were a quick way to get rid of it. But your right, there’s nothing you can do and the game is terrible.

          • CaitSeith

            I never said the game was terrible. DON’T FUCKING PUT WORDS ON MY MOUTH!

          • Xirbtt

            HAHA! Did I say you said that? 😛 Did I specifically say “This guy said this” Nooooope. :3

      • “Sounds like rather than engage with the living world they created you just sat back and sighed at it as a game.”

        I wrote a videogame review of a videogame.

        Sorry about that.

        • Anton

          You dun goofed now Jim.

        • buzzardslicer

          Some people look for games to be immersed in. I’m glad developers try and create believable worlds. Of course it would be harder to climb for the dew minutes it rains

          • The problem is that games should be fun, first and foremost.

            I could write an ultra-realistic sci-fi story about an alien invasion, and then end it a few chapters in with the utter annihilation of humans by an enemy they literally couldn’t fight. It could be so immersive!

            But it would be a terrible story.

          • Carter

            Some people love hacking and slashing, spamming two buttons and killing 7000 people in 30 seconds while some people love the hard, punishing difficulty of the weighty combat of Dark Souls.

            Dark Souls would surely fit under your ‘realistic, not fun’ example, right?

            Well, I personally think Dark Souls is a lot more fun and fulfilling than Dynasty Warriors is, maybe I’m in the minority.

            Annoyances don’t always equal less fun, actually, these annoyances are what make games games.

          • Dark Souls is realistic? Yeah, I remember throwing a few fireballs around yesterday evening.

            Another person who needs to work on reading comprehension.

            Gameplay is what makes a game a game. Standing around waiting on an annoyance to end is, by definition, not playing a game. It’s watching an annoyance and waiting to play the game again.

            Maybe just have someone come take the controller from you every so often and make you wait until they give it back. It’s what makes the game a game!

          • Sned

            You’ve just given me an excellent idea for a story….

          • Xirbtt

            You obviously have also never played this new Zelda game if all you think the rain does is make cliffs unclimbable.

            -Hint- It affects allot of other things in the world. Psst, don’t talk about things you’ve never played.

          • Funny. I don’t recall stating or implying that the only thing rain does is make cliffs unclimbable. Might want to work on that reading comprehension.

        • Chris Schwartz-Brown

          But did you find any fish helmets? I’m worried before I pick it up that there won’t be any.

        • E Robb

          Maybe respond to the rest of my comment? Your entire review reads like utter confusion, rather than any good faith engagement. Like someone playing Journey and complaining about the lack of basic voice chat functionality. Yeah, you could call that a review, but possibly there was a thinking behind that choice. Let’s talk about it.

        • Sned

          I think what most people are trying to say, is that getting around the limitations with weather, and limiting abilities etc, is a puzzle in itself, rather than an irritating limitation. If the game always gave you every ability, it would make link seem very OP, and would subsequently make the game very easy. I think that is the main point that most people are trying to communicate.

          But you do you, I guess. Knowing that you didn’t give it a great score doesn’t diminish the game any more to me.

          • E Robb

            Exactly. It’s not a design flaw that Link can’t climb rocks in the rain. It’s not a design flaw that if you swim too long you’ll drown. Just like it’s not a design flaw that there isn’t a recipe book you start with in Minecraft.

          • Carter

            I agree, the game is based around these limitations which push you to further your character so that you can see more of the world.

          • Legolas <3 ^.^

            Yes, but the laughable amount of stamina you start with makes turns these elements into a annoyance rather then a compelling challenge

          • Powermad80

            If you’re not yet adequately equipped to face these challenges then you go out into the world and gear yourself up and beat puzzles to be able to upgrade your health/stamina so that you are then able to face those challenges.

          • Kingtrace

            It’s a design flaw that while traversing mountains you can suddenly encounter a problem that isn’t solveable. The most efficient way to continue your mountain climb if it starts raining is to do something other than play Zelda until the rain stops. How is this not a flaw?

          • E Robb

            Because that’s how our entire reality operates! Are you kidding? Some problems can’t be solved like a riddle. Some things have to simply be endured and dealt with. You can’t voice chat in Journey, you have to make do, and the developers are betting that if you endure, you’ll find a new worthwhile experience. It’s why you can’t co op Dark Souls from beginning to end.

            Not being able to climb a cliff means you have to find an alternate route. Like in real life, sometimes. You have go around, the long way. And the developers are gambling on you finding something equally interesting. A sidequest or a rare animal or resource, or an enemy camp. Maybe because you can’t climb, you’ll try to cross a river. Maybe you’ll get caught in a lightning storm. It’s a gameplay system that you have to find your own path within.

          • Xirbtt

            Shit, it’s almost like the game gave you limited stamina and health so you’d WANT to upgrade them or something? Fancy that! A game where the character’s goals are also my own, and not for some stupid story reason, but an actual GAMEPLAY reason.

    • Nathan Aldana

      Oooor..maybe not everyone wants to do that? Not everyone wants their rp to be that fucking immersive in a singleplayer game.

    • Michael Alexander Seiler

      Wait… didn´t he actually mention and in fact praise how the game portrayed Hyrule as a living world

    • BlargleWargle

      Can you get any more condescending?

      • E Robb

        I could. I could type my response like the review. C’mon, let’s not suddenly get all sensitive on a Jim Sterling joint. It’s not fitting.

        • NaughtyOttsel

          but then you’d come off less condescending.

          • E Robb

            Oh please. Jim dresses up like a dictator and attacks developers all day long. I mention that he sighed and called him dude and people think I’m being a meanie?

          • NaughtyOttsel

            What does all that have to do with this review?

          • E Robb

            What does his personality and tenor have to do with his writing? I’m confused. Everything? I’m not even knocking him. And I’m sure he’s not offended. What exactly are you defending? There’s no fight.

          • NaughtyOttsel

            So again, what exactly does all that have to do with this review?

            I’m not defending his character whatsoever, you said this review was written in a condescending manner but that’s just not true.

          • E Robb

            I’m responding to comments saying I’m being condescending, which I find odd as I’m responding to a Jim Sterling review. People here must obviously love a harsher tone, otherwise they wouldn’t be here. It’s like I’m at a roast, and I said the food isn’t very good, and everyone got offended. It’s absurd considering the greater context of why we’re here.

    • Kingtrace

      Right, but it’s immersion purely for the sake of immersion, not for any reason that benefits gameplay.

      From a gameplay standpoint, you’re simply not allowed to make use of one of the game’s core mechanics, entirely at random, where the only thing to do is stop your climb and wait, or go to a potentially far away location and wait some more.

      It’s unnecessary, the rain mechanic for climbing exists entirely to slow down progression and irritate the player.

      • Xirbtt

        It’s not at random. Game tells you the next 2 or 3 hours of weather on a in game clock so you can plan accordingly. The game gives you the tools. You just make it as hard as you want. 😛

        • Kingtrace

          Right, and if the next thing I want to do requires climbing, my options are to stand idle and wait for the weather to end, or go to a campfire, which may be incredibly far away, and keep resting until there’s no bad weather on the horizon. At random.

          Not to mention travel time between the mountain and campfire, and the time spent climbing halfway up, will probably be more than a few in-game hours, which, again, could randomly end your climb at any point.

          Having to stop climbing because it will be raining in two hours is exactly the same as having to stop climbing now.

          • Xirbtt

            You havne’t played the game have you? You can MAKE campfires you know? Ahaha, people who haven’t played the game are so easy to spot. Nice try.

          • Kingtrace

            I can make them on a sheer clifface while it’s raining?

            You’re right, they ARE easy to spot.

          • Xirbtt

            Again, look at the clock. Is it about to rain? DON’T CLIMB something, fix it! What’s the problem again?

          • Kingtrace

            Because it could be about to rain every time I wait until morning, for one.

            It could be a climb that would take more than the next three ingame hours, for two.

            And for three, why should I randomly have to stop playing the game? In what way is asking the player to afk a good mechanic?

          • Xirbtt

            So you decided to climb a wall, then it started raining because you weren’t paying attention, and it’s the game’s fault? Understood. I see where you stand now. 😀

          • Kingtrace

            Except even if I was paying attention and knew my climb would take too long, it’s the exact same result as slipping off the wall: I have to stop climbing.

            And of course you gloss over the fact that RNG is still a huge time waster and there’s nothing you can do about it.

            And have also failed to explain how it makes the game more fun. All this sounds like a lot of extra busy work for literally no reason.

          • Xirbtt

            Nothing you can do about it? I just listed MANY things you can do about it, and you ignored them.

          • Xirbtt

            “Because it could be about to rain every time I wait until morning, for one.”

            Hyperbole. Not calling you a liar. But you may be a liar. And waiting around? That is your choice. Play the game how you want. If you want to play the game by waiting then complain that the game is MAKING you wait, well, I just may have to call you out on that.

          • Adam Benevides

            tbh I wasn’t aware of the weather prediction. There are some tools which really should be made more obvious to the player.

          • Xirbtt

            It’s right there. On the screen. Unless you go pro and turn all hud things like I do off. Then I would say look at the clouds. Is it getting cloudy? MIGHT RAIN SOON. I know, hard stuff to do.

    • Adam Benevides

      The rain is just inconvenient, because you can’t plan for it. If it were a rain forest where it rained constantly and you had to plan on NOT climbing, then it’d be fantastic game design. It’s not good when you think you understand the games rules, but they change when the game feels like it. There have been a number of times I’m almost at the top of a cliff side, but then fall to disappointment because the game decided to stop me.

      I love that there are cold and hot areas. I would’ve liked the rain to only cause slick surfaces in the rain forest. The weather looks cool, but when the player can’t prepare for it, you done goofed it up. The lightning is bullshit and the slippery rocks are bullshit.

      • E Robb

        Yes. Rain sometimes is an inconvenience. But that’s how it works in the real world too. You’re describing wanting a game to only ever be “gamey” where there’s a Rainland, and Hotland, and Coldland, and I think that’s garbage open world game design. And the reason games like Far Cry and Minecraft, and now Zelda are hitting a nerve with people are these organic moments that get born due to emergent systems.

        • RifleAvenger Sashiro

          When I’m mountain hiking and rock climbing in real life, I don’t get excited and glow over how I can no longer climb and this is some kind of transcendent moment. I get fucking pissed off that I’m wasting hours huddled and cold in my tent waiting for the rain to stop.

          Why would I ever want that experience imposed upon me in a video game?

          • E Robb

            When I compared it to real life weather, I didn’t mean you should compare it to you hiking as a hobby. Link isn’t hobbying. Nor is the struggle in the middle part of a movie “fun” if you apply it literally to your day to day. What it should encourage is alternate exploration which their game world leads to interesting diversions.

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  • NaughtyOttsel

    As a massive Zelda fan I wholeheartedly agree with hthis review.

  • buzzardslicer

    “Frequent interruptions when monsters respawn during a “blood moon” – the modern equivalent of Castlevania II‘s notorious “curse” text box”

    Ok this is just not a good comparison. The blood moon does not happen every night from what I’ve seen and the cutscene is instantly skippable. Also in Simon’s Quest in happens literally every ten or so minutes, unlike every so often in BOTW.

    I know this is his opinion but reading this complaint and others makes it seem like he came into this game looking for things to dislike about it and latched onto those aspects when he found them. A player without that attitude would have skipped the short blood moon cutscene and went on their merry way but Jim here immediately saw it as a flaw he could harp on at the first resemblance to the criticized castlevania mechanic.

    • HerbertGW

      If you think he came into it looking for things to complain about, then you clearly haven’t got a clue what Jim’s tastes are, which is ironic given that you came here, read this, and then bitched because someone has an opinion that isn’t the same as yours.

      • buzzardslicer

        It doesn’t matter what “Jim’s tastes are”. He’s not a buddy from down the street. He’s a professional reviewer and this is what I got out of reading his complaints. If he doesn’t want people to give their alternate opinions on his thoughts then he should just disable comments

        • HerbertGW

          “It doesn’t matter what Jim’s tastes are”?

          I’m sorry, did you fall and hit your head? This is a review, right? By a person. A person with personal tastes. Personal opinions. Opinions and tastes that influence how he perceives the world and everything in it. Like this game.

          Of course his personal tastes matter you imbecile, that’s how reviews like this work. That’s the entire fucking point of them. You come here to get his personal view of something, based on his personal tastes.

          Honestly some of you Nintendrones really are as thick as the media makes you out to be.

          • buzzardslicer

            You aren’t getting what I’m saying

            You were insinuating that I must be familiar with Jim’s other reviews to be qualified to give my thoughts on this one which is bollocks. I’m looking at this review on it’s own. In that case, his previous tastes don’t matter and they shouldn’t affect how I perceive this singular work of his

            And nice use of the word “nintendrone”. You aren’t hiding that you’re just here to be a fanboy flamer

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            Look guys, he’s right. It’s impossible that Jim was more bothered by things than he was. No one is ever allowed to have different opinions on games, all hail Lord Metacritic, the consensus score must be maintained from those evil people who don’t have their own real opinions and are only out for clicks on their non ad supported site.

          • buzzardslicer

            Ah yes, if you disagree with the majority opinion you’re completely in your rights and you’re actually doing us a service but a finding points of contention with a minority opinion? What are you doing you monster?! That lone opinion is like a fragile bird’s egg that must be protected at all costs! How dare people try and disagree with that beautiful diamond in the rough? Don’t you know that the more people that agree with you the more banal and pedestrian your opinion is you sheep?

          • Daniel

            The blood moon only got a short paragraph in the review. It was an example of one of many minor complaints that made the game less enjoyable for him personally. It seems like an odd thing to focus on in your criticism of his review when it’s such an insignificant part of it that probably didn’t contribute much to the final score.

          • buzzardslicer

            It’s just one thing that popped out to me, I could go into more detail on his other points

          • Daniel

            Is it really beyond belief that the various complaints he listed could potentially diminish one’s enjoyment of the game? I certainly agree that the rain mechanic and pitiful amount of initial stamina were often infuriating. Even for the criticisms I don’t agree with, I can see why they would bother someone who has different tastes to me.

            In film and literature even supposedly “undisputed” masterpieces have critics who simply don’t like them. In the end, if you truly enjoyed the game it shouldn’t matter that some people don’t share your opinion.

          • Fallen Prime

            “In film and literature even supposedly “undisputed” masterpieces have critics who simply don’t like them.”

            Case in point, Stephen King really hates Kubrick’s adaptation of The Shining.

          • buzzardslicer

            I get that a lot of the complaints are just his personal taste not agreeing with a mechanic, but that Castlevania comparison is completely off and and it doesn’t reflect on him well as a professional reviewer

          • Daniel

            Again, that’s such an insignificant part of the review that I can’t see how it could bring Jim Sterling’s professional integrity into question. Even then, it’s a valid comparison. While Castlevania II’s is more frequent, both occur periodically and both disrupt gameplay. Even though you can skip the blood moon cut-scene, it has to initialise first and does slightly interrupt the flow. At no point does he say that the blood moon is as bad as the ‘curse’ text; just that they’re similar.

          • buzzardslicer

            And what I’m saying is that it’s not a valid comparison. Castlevania’s scroll occurs literally 10x more frequently and can’t be skipped while the Blood moon cutscene can instantly skipped like it never happened,. We all know what he was trying insinuate with that comparison. It DOES reflect poorly on a reviewer when he misrepresents a game inaccurately. Anyone reading this review who has played Simon’s Quest would get the idea of an extremely annoying periodic gameplay interruption when that is not the case. It may be small, but it is still unprofessional looking at that alone

          • Daniel

            Sounds you’re reading way too much into this. And the cutscene can’t be “instantly skipped”. It’s about 3 seconds from the screen fading to black before you can actually skip it and another couple of seconds of loading after skipping before normal gameplay resumes. It’s a small interruption, but annoying nonetheless.

          • CaitSeith

            I think the Castelvania comparison holds on (modern version, compare how the game flow was usually in other old games compared with modern ones). But even if it didn’t, that doesn’t have anything to do with being professional reviewer.

          • buzzardslicer

            It does. I’ve seen many people cite this and other inaccuracies/misrepresentations like the bit about shrines when talking about this review. It’s not professional to paint a false picture of a game

          • Wolfie

            Then you don’t understand reviewers in general.

            Yeah, you can take the work at it’s face, but without knowing the context of the reviewer and their opinions about the various mechanics and things, you get a lesser understanding of the review itself.

            There’s a reason for his opinions, and reading his reviews and understanding his views help understand his opinions and whether or not you agree overall with them.

          • buzzardslicer

            It’s not a necessity though. A review is a self-contained entity

            For the record, I have read plenty of Jim’s others reviews and know about his dealings so it would n’t be a stretch to say he is biased against nintendo games due to his history with the company

          • Wolfie

            Yes, that’s true that it is a self-contained entry, but it’s still built upon the perceptions of the reviewer, and helps in understanding the conclusion of the review itself, as well as if you actually agree or not.

            That is to say, if you’d like something they necessarily did not.

        • Nism

          Reviews are exactly about tastes. A reviewer can never take their tastes out of a review, it’s simply impossible. Nothing he has said indicates he doesn’t want to hear other opinions, but accusing people of looking for things to bitch about, when actually all they’re doing is levying criticisms, is something else entirely.

          • buzzardslicer

            I was responding to this:
            ” If you think he came into it looking for things to complain about, then you clearly haven’t got a clue what Jim’s tastes are,”

            What I mean is that his previous tastes don’t matter when I look at this review. Obviously all reviews are opinionated.

          • buzzardslicer

            “…but accusing people of looking for things to bitch about, when actually all they’re doing is levying criticisms, is something else entirely.”

            Can a reviewer not go into a game with a more negative mindset than other games? That’s what the petty blood moon complaint says to me

          • Adam Benevides

            stop fucking wanking

    • darksteel6

      You clearly don’t know Jim at all, he wanted to like the game more then he did.

      • buzzardslicer

        Ok well this complaint and others speak otherwise to me. I’m glad you and Jim are good mates though

    • SharkyKrunk

      This is a fair point, it was kind of a weird criticism. All the same, there was a bit of frustrating cutscene repetition, I’ve seen that one backstory cutscene with the drawings on parchment 3 times now

      • Göran Isacson

        True that. There is no need to show the cutscene again and again unless you’re afraid the players are extremely forgetful. Blood moon happens, monsters respawn. We got it the first time.

    • Really, the Blood Moon scene is cool only the first time you see it.
      I shouldn’t have to skip it every time, because it shouldn’t show me it every time.
      I get it, all the monsters are respawning. Just do it instead of completely stopping my gameplay every time.

      • buzzardslicer

        Literally just press plus

      • Xirbtt

        Gotta load the monsters in somehow. 😛

    • Praised_Solaire

      “he came into this game looking for things to dislike”

      Of course he did, that’s what you do when you review something. Look for things you like and others you dislike. Don’t act like he hates the thing either, he clearly enjoys it. 7/10 is above average and a fair score for such a game.

  • SharkyKrunk

    Why can’t ya teleport the fuckin horse? Why are the sprint and jump buttons so fucked up? Why can’t I automatically equip a new bow when the previous one breaks, since I can only access the melee quick menu when that happens?

    Great auld game of course, I’d have given it an 8 myself, I think really is a best-of for both Nintendo’s cleverness, and its utterly boneheaded decisions

    • Clémy-sensei

      You can’t teleport the horse to you, but you can teleport it at a stable (it”s not really obvious though, I only figured it out after 30 hours of gameplay…)

      • SharkyKrunk

        Very true, the stables help for sure. But I was more thinking of the horse teleporting when fast travelling. It’s irritating that if I want to revisit an area I either need to do it on foot or go all the way back on horseback. I can’t think of a good reason for the horse not to fast travel with Link either, the vast majority of teleport points are accessible to it

        • Clémy-sensei

          Yeah, I figured that’s what you meant, I wholeheartedly agree with you.

        • CaitSeith

          I have been testing just how far the horse can hear you whistle. Those guys have some good damn ears! But I agree that teleporting the horse would be excellent.

    • ウェニング イェンス

      Quick tip:
      You can quick select a new bow even without a bow equipped by holding zr (i think thats the button to draw and fire your bow…) and then the usual left and right buttons on the dpad.

      • SharkyKrunk

        Oh nice! Really good to know, thank you. Kind of an odd way of going about it, but good to know it’s possible!

    • Göran Isacson

      Oh man, I do agree with there being something… off with sprinting and jumping. For some reason it just feels harder to pull off than it should, like there’s something about the feedback given to players that’s constantly alightly off and preventing me from doing running jumps. Also yes, automatically going from bow-change menu to sword-change menu when the bows break frustrate me. I get they made it so you have to be in “bow-mode” to change bows quickly because they didn’t have enough buttons to make a separate bow-change button, but why do I leave bow-mode when a bow breaks? Why not give me a grace-period where I am still in bow-mode for a few seconds so I can equip something new?

  • paxtofettel

    As someone who enjoys BoTW immensely, I can acknowledge Jim’s problems. Jim’s opinion should not invalidate your enjoyment, nor should you throw hate at him (especially since Jim will most definitely just laugh out loud at the salt)

  • CountOrlock

    For me the frame rate issues alone are enough reason to give it a 7/10. It’s 2017, it’s a goddamn disgrace that a company can sell a $300 system that can’t even keep a solid 30fps. This isn’t just Nintendo, PS4 and Xbone do it as well. Frame rate is intrinsically tied to game play, if this game frequently dips below 30fps that is a direct hit to game play. I’m glad you brought that up, I wanted a Switch, still do, but when I heard about it’s FPS issue I held off getting one. Hopefully someday Nintendo will go full 3rd party and we will get a Zelda on a console that can actually run it decently. Or on PC so we can see it at it in it’s true form.

    • Powermad80

      FPS issue isn’t a console thing, it’s just this game that has troubles, which is a shame but understandable for a game so long in development and for a different console entirely for most of that.

      Honestly I hate regular home consoles for their poor performance often and just in general being a worse version of my desktop but Nintendo is the only one of those big three console manufacturers I’d never want to go PC/3rd party because I love portable systems (since they fill an actually different role from my PC), and because they’re the only ones that ever at least *try* to do something weird and new with hardware.

      • darksteel6

        They’re the one I want the most to go third-party, especially considering how obviously rushed to market the Switch was with all the technical problems i’ve been hearing about it.

      • CX316

        To be fair, there’s not an awful lot of titles on the Switch for you to test that theory with.

      • CountOrlock

        I could see nintendo going 3rd party in home console form but maintaining the handheld market easily.

        • Powermad80

          But the question is, why would they do that when they could just beef up their handhelds with their entire first party output, instead of splitting it between two bases?

          Hell this line of thinking seems to be what spawned the Switch.

    • Winsday

      “It’s the current year!”

      Teenager?

      Also, go fuck yourself with the third party talk. Absolutely pathetic. Keep begging.

    • Travis Touchdown

      “F-frame rate is a big deal, guys! I swear!”

      No, it’s not.

      • keironsmith123

        Yes it is, i’m getting framerate drops in Nier and its getting on my nerves as its killing the immesion. Anyway as most would say 30fps is fine as long as its stable but with 30fps what drops all the time well thats pretty bad.

    • Kinan

      I had frame rate issues when fighting the Moblins on Death Mountain – but it doesn’t happen frequently.

    • The frame rate dips on Wii U as well, they designed an incredibly ambitious engine that can do an absolute ton, but don’t manage to adequately scale it back when a lot goes on on screen. It’s not to do with the hardware at all :).

  • realmofthefigs

    I’m disappointed you didn’t like the game as much as me, because I have enjoyed pretty much all my time with this game and would probably give it a 9, but I can’t exactly disagree with any of your complaints either. *shrug*

    One thing I think we can definitely agree on is my nomination of Breath of the Wild’s Link for Good Boy of the Year 2017. Such a Good Boy. A round of applause, please.

    • Fallen Prime

      You.

      Talk sense into the others. Maybe your politeness and respect will spread.

      • Anton

        …it usually goes the other way.

        • Fallen Prime

          I CAN DREAM, ANTON.

    • galactix100

      I’m nominating you for Good Boy of the Year 2017 for not being a dumpster person who gets pissy about review scores.

    • That’s the big thing — how much did the game’s faults bring it down for you? It’s going to affect some more than others. The weapon degrading thing is a BIG amount of hurt for me, yet the Destructoid review I just read said “I’ve been annoyed by breakable weapons in the past, but here I never reached a point where I became disgusted by the concept.”

      We all have thresholds on what we’ll put up with, and how much it affects our enjoyment. These folks upset at the review (assuming they even read it, and didn’t just react to the score) NEED to keep this in mind. We all have different tastes, all valid from our perspectives.

    • *claps* He is a good boy isn’t he? What about Sidon though? I feel he should get Sweet Prince of the Year 2017.

    • Artemiy

      Also best Hylian vai 2017.

  • darksteel6

    Ah yes this is beautiful, I can taste the salty tears of Nintendo fanboys.

    Someone really told Jim to drink bleach? Damn, it’s just a fucking video game review, it’s not like Jim hated the game, take a fucking chill pill.

    Oh well at least Jim didn’t get DDosed this time.

    • Chris Schwartz-Brown

      When the guy who calls people dumb cock suckers and compares them to pedophiles for not liking Ubisoft games is telling you to calm down you know you done fucked up.

      • darksteel6

        Are you the same Chris Brown that beat Rihanna?

        • Chris Schwartz-Brown

          So I can add comparing me to a wife beater to comparing me to a pedophile in the things you’ve now done because I disagreed with you about an Ubisoft game being poorly written.

          But remember, you only personally insult or attack people who come here to attack Jim! You wouldn’t want to be shown to just be a thin skinned, whiny, entitled asshole.

    • Daniel

      >”it’s just a fucking video game review”

      You must be new to this whole ‘internet’ thing

      • CaitSeith

        That doesn’t make it any less wrong.

  • How did you find the soundtrack? I know it didn’t technically have Aerosmith, but I appreciated the radio station that was just Puddle of Mudd coverinng Aerosmith’s hits.

    You can’t win them all, but Puddle of Mudd doing the entire soundtrack (every radio station) was a good consolation prize.

  • I personally love it a lot, but I can see people not liking it as much as I do. Perhaps the next Zelda will be better for you 🙂

  • Daniel

    While I personally loved the game, I’m glad someone is acknowledging that it isn’t a perfect 10/10 game and that it has many flaws which only make the game more frustrating and could have been easily remedied.

    • Xirbtt

      10/10 does NOT mean a game is PERFECT. -rolls eyes- Reviews and people. When will they learn.

  • Geebun

    I love watching the salt in the comments as someone who thinks Skyward Sword is easily the best Zelda game since a Link to the past 😀 Welcome to my world!

  • johnnie88

    I imagine you’ll catch a lot of shit from some people for this score, but honestly your problems with the game sound like they would irritate the hell out of me too. Good analysis.

    • Fallen Prime

      “Imagine” nothing, it’s already started.

  • John Cal McCormick

    The bleach comment is amazing. It’s so sad when someone on the internet doesn’t have exactly the same opinion as you, isn’t it?

  • Jonathan Marvin

    Breath of the Wild < Rise of the Argonauts

  • Erwin

    So, new Zelda is almost as good as Uncharted 4. Nice!

    • Geebun

      Come on! 7, that’s 1.5 less then Uncharted 4. They might as well remove the game from the eshop and stores, it’s unplayable! There’s no way anyone can enjoy it! /s

  • Fallen Prime

    Apropos of nothing, “Please Don’t Be Mad At Me Again Reddit” is a contender for the best tag on the site.

    • Powermad80

      I dunno my money’s on “Contains Skeletons”

  • SilentPony

    I seriously can’t tell if these are real comments or satirical ones…

    • HerbertGW

      Go to PCMR on Reddit, then look for any thread where anyone says anything remotely bad about Nintendo. Whichever company makes rose tinted glasses these days must solely rely on Nintendo “Fanboys” for profits.

  • Inspector_Gidget

    THANK YOU. I picked it up and found that it can’t pull me away from Horizon at the moment. I don’t get the universal raves, but I suspect it requires a healthy dose of Nintendo nostalgia, which I lost a long time ago.

    • darksteel6

      This feels like a classic case of Bioshock Infinite syndrome, I remember when that game got perfect score after perfect scores for weeks, then after a few months people started to find that the game was actually quite flawed in a number of ways, which made it clearly that many critics were too blinded by their love of the franchise to properly assess the game.

      • Powermad80

        Or general opinions sway over time. You see this on reddit even. First everyone hated Fallout 4 and wanted it to fail, then it got decent reviews and the people who liked it started dominating the discussion, then later on when the hype from those people died down the negative people started dominating the discussions again.

      • Carter

        I don’t care what anyone thinks Infinite is my favourite BioShock game and it’s a 10/10 for me.

      • SavingPrincess

        Infinite was the most overrated game… A linear shooter with a pothead’s college philosophy thesis.

        • darksteel6

          Indeed it was, I very much agreed with Total Biscuit on that game. It’s hard for a game that’s so focused on mindless shooting to really tell a thought-provoking story.

    • Carter

      Seems as though every time someone likes a new title in a long running franchise it has to be ‘nostalgia’, and it’s never anything to do with the fact that we all have different taste in games.

      • Inspector_Gidget

        I’m not saying it isn’t a good game. But it seems like Nintendo games in particular get such universal acclaim that there’s no room for someone not liking it. They seem to get a pass in areas others do not because of fondness for the brand.

        • Carter

          You argued the opposite though, your argument is that Zelda isn’t really all that good unless you have nostalgia for the series.

          • Inspector_Gidget

            Not really. There’s a big gap between “it’s a good game” and “OMG life-changing open world perfection” in every single review. There was no way this game wasn’t getting 10’s across the board unless it was pure trash. Which, admittedly, it’s not.

          • Carter

            Those people probably genuinely think that, so let them. Don’t accredit it to nostalgia.

        • Powermad80

          Have you not heard people’s opinion of Paper Mario Sticker Star, Star Fox Zero, Federation Force, etc.?

          Nintendo games often get such high praise because they’re *that* good, and when they aren’t you damn sure hear about it.

          • Carter

            Wrong. Impossible. I don’t personally like it so everybody else has nostalgia glasses.

          • Inspector_Gidget

            Well, fine. I hit a nerve. Having to rebut every single contrary opinion sort of proves my point. Glad you like it, have fun.

          • Carter

            ME 1-0 YOU

            EASY

        • Xirbtt

          Different strokes. Horizon is a bore of an open world for me. I’d rather play Zelda. 😛

  • deadlydeadly
    • red13

      Yeah, this, i just saw this and i just, “Is this fucking real ?” so i checked this man twitter, didn’t disappointed, lol.
      Careful jim, the big N might sends their army to laid you off.

      • Fallen Prime

        Jim’s next tweet will be a solemn announcement that he fired himself.

        • red13

          LOL, thanks you i need this laugh.

        • Artemiy

          Nah, he’ll just blame Chip.
          SHUT UP CHIP!

      • It’s all very sus.

    • MG_Salad

      And this my friends, is why, I thank God for Jim.

    • Terry

      To be fair, this guy gave evolve a 9/10.
      So, he wasn’t really a good reviewer anyway…

    • MrSquifler

      Seriously? He was fired for giving Zelda 7/10? Sheesh, it’s a fucking game.

      • Fallen Prime

        Actually, that was for giving the Switch 7/10.

        SEMANTICS!!!!!!!!!

        • MrSquifler

          Oh yeah, my bad. Still, that’s so shitty of IGN.

  • neon tiger

    Finally a review that mirrors what i think, i really don’t see what people are thinking when they say it’s one of the best games ever.

  • Jonas Håkansson

    Nice review! Sounds like a flawed but good game, I’ll be sure to pick it up when I get my Switch.

  • SilentPony

    I honestly think I’m the only person playing Ghost Recond Wildlands…Come on guys, its actually pretty fun!

    • darksteel6

      I’m playing it too and really enjoying it, it is indeed very fun, and you can climb a mountain whenever you want to and don’t have to worry about any of that weather and stamina bullshit.

    • bimmyz

      ugh, played the beta with 3 other random people for about 10 mins, felt like a choppy version of tpp, uninstalled it without hesitation.

      • darksteel6

        I think it’s actually just as good if not better then TPP.

    • Sned

      It doesn’t look like a terrible co-op game. I think the main issue for most of us in the comment sections is…. Well….

      ….we don’t really have friends

      • darksteel6

        Even without friends it’s pretty goddamn fun in my personal opinion.

        • Sned

          I tried playing the beta. So many connection issues, it just didn’t work.

          So I played some Zelda instead.

          I was told a couple of days later that the connection issues were fixed. I went on it, and finally managed to test it out.

          The game just wasn’t engaging. The stealth felt like a poor man’s MGS, the gunplay felt like a poor man’s GTA, and the action sequences felt like a poor man’s JC3. Not to mention that there was still frequent connection issues.

          So I played some Doom instead.

          Unless They managed to fix everything since the beta (which,come on, is impossible), I just don’t think that game is worth the time or money.

          • Carter

            It’s Ubisoft, they generally make poor games dressed in shiny graphics.

          • darksteel6

            That’s true for the AC series IMO, but I don’t think that’s the case for the Far Cry Series, the Watch Dogs series or Wildalnds.

          • Carter

            I loved Far Cry 3, 4 was decent and I’ve played about 2 hours of Primal since I got it, not very good imo.

          • darksteel6

            Yeah i’m with Total Biscuit on Primal, given how much Jim has been outspoken about how much he’s getting tired of Open World games, i’m really surprised he liked Primal, considering it seems to have every single convention in open-world games that he dislikes.

          • darksteel6

            I felt like the game combined elements from Just Cause, Far Cry and MGS into a nice tasty combination.

    • CaitSeith

      I laughed really hard at the premise when it was presented at Ubisoft’s E3. Besides that, I think I’ll pass this one. I’m not a fan of modern military shooters.

  • goodbyejojo

    never was a zelda fan, but enjoyed it for what it is, my only quibble is that the open world feels a bit empty.

    • AlexAndThunder

      This hits me hard because I’ve just come off Horizon Zero Dawn where you’re never alone for too long. I think it was designed like that due to Switch limitations though (possibly at least) otherwise potential major lag.

  • Jamesworkshop

    For a game series with a near constant level of artistic brilliance, the stamina meter seem so bizarrely out-of-place, that it feels like something that was added in by some outsourced developer.

    • Andy24

      it’s there to balance the game out, otherwise you could climb any surface and it would break the combat system in place as well. To me, it’s only annoying on the plateau, since you can use the paraglider to drop off areas afterwards, it never got on my nerves.

      • Jamesworkshop

        I meant as a visual element, and not a game play one.

        I haven’t gotten to play it myself, I’m hoping that the switch will drop the 2nd hand market price for the Wii U, and I can pick one up on the cheap.

        • Andy24

          That’s true, the pro HUD mode addresses a lot of the visual clutter such as the temperature gauge. I’m not bothered by it, though.

    • buzzardslicer

      The free climbing wouldn’t work without it. It makes traversing the land more interesting when Link can’t just climb infinitely. It makes you have to consider your path like an actual explorer. From what I’ve found you can climb every single mountain with beginning level stamina from multiple angles if you go about it right

      • darksteel6

        The Tomb Raider games didn’t do any of that Stamina bullshit and they were no less interesting to explore.

        • Carter

          you missed the /s

        • Andy24

          The system in the Raider games was there to reach set areas by the designer. You can’t reach every area in Tomb Raider, if you take out the stamina in Zelda, you jeopardize the cooking system, the combat and movement itself. I never had a problem with it, because through cooking as well as upgrades you can deal with said shortcoming.

        • buzzardslicer

          I’d argue that Tomb Raider was a much, MUCH less interesting game to explore than BOTW. It’s not even an open world game. You might as well compare it to uncharted which is also a linear game with infinite climbing for it’s high octane set pieces

          • darksteel6

            It’s very different from Uncharted and it is an open-world game, just not the same type of open world game.

          • buzzardslicer

            It’s not an open world game. It’s linear game with some decently sized hub areas, If it is open world it is the absolute barest minimum for what qualifies as one

          • darksteel6

            Tomb Raiders tombs were way fucking better

          • buzzardslicer

            If we’re comparing contained puzzle rooms then BOTW handily blows TR ’13 out of the water. The “tombs” were very rare to find and their puzzles were ridiculously easy

          • darksteel6

            I was more referring to Rise of the Tomb Raider, those rooms were awesome.

        • Scott Neil

          The only one that did stamina was the shit one,Angel of Darkness!.

          • darksteel6

            That game was OK, at least there the stamina kind of made sense and didn’t get in the way too often.

    • SharkyKrunk

      For climbing at least the stamina situation would have been solved by making climb-jumps use the same amount of stamina as slow climbing. That way I can look at a peak, say 1 climb jump = 2 metres + 20% of my stamina bar. Peak is 8 metres high, so this is worthwhile. If not, find a different solution. As always, the answer with these things is never to remove the mechanic, but think of ways to improve it such that it’s still interesting, but doesn’t needlessly waste the players time.

  • Andy24

    I think we all agree, it is a good game.

    Different strokes for different folks, I disagree with a lot of Jim’s points; I have my arguments to do so. But I think it boils down to whether a certain mechanic truly bothers me. For instance, rain never bugged me as much as there’s always another way to get to an area.

    A lot of the amazing things the game does are enough for me to outweigh the negatives such as the execution of weapon durability, which I do think needed to be in the game. Problem is execution not the mechanic itself. Frankly, it never took me out of the experience as much since there’s a plethora of weapons.

    Either way, I’d recommend to try this game for yourself, however. If your taste aligns more with Jim’s, though, this may not be the game for you. If that isn’t the case, try it out, it’s one of the few open world games I’ve personally enjoyed. Remember, Jim wasn’t a huge fan of ALBW, yet a lot of people love it understandably so. While someone like me hates most 3D Zelda games, yet I enjoyed ALBW and really liked Breath of The Wild. So yeah, read different reviews and try it out to see whether you think it deserves the praise it’s getting.

  • aleotothepast

    See, I disagree. However, I’m not going to be a cunt about it. That’s the difference between having a differing opinion and being an arsehole, and it’s surprisingly easy to grasp. So why can’t some people?

  • Niels Peter Sjørslev

    I imagine that this score ain’t gonna be popular

  • Jonathan Phillips

    Not sure if this is intended, but the Sheikah Stone and Blood Moon links both show the same picture. It makes a bunch more sense on the Blood Moon, so I imagine it’s not intended. Just a heads up there.

  • TetraSky

    Good review. For those who actually read the entire thing and didn’t just look at the final score only to hate on Jim because he didn’t give it 10/10.

  • David Ruckman

    While I disagree on some points, this is probably my new favorite Zelda, I’m really glad you decided not to follow the hype train. Reviews Skyward Sword’s were bias enough, and this game took it to the next level.

    But 7/10 is still a good score. People who get made at that score are just salty fanboys.

  • Sam

    I haven’t bought the game yet but was very excited to try it, and I found your review very helpful and informative, now that I know about some of its flaws I can be prepared for them and not be hammered by disappointment when I pick it up and get tired on a mountain the first time. Good review!

  • AlexAndThunder

    I’m actually surprised you’re not more infuriated at the motion control puzzles? I just did the one with three balls/switches (same shrine starts off with motion control spike puzzles) and dear god was it beyond infuriating. It makes the same mistake the 2D Platforming did in Secret endgame Pitioss Dungeon in FFXV where they force a 3D Area into a Psuedo-2D area. I had a tough time doing it on TV because I couldn’t understand which way the motion control was moving and when I did it on the Switch, the puzzle was basically obscured from my vision one way or another.

    And this is coming from someone who adored The Talos Principle, and probably find (most) puzzles of Zelda BOTW the best part! So it isn’t exactly an issue with my predisposition against puzzles!

  • Ken Kimmell

    I think Jim’s pissy-ness at Nintendo is highly effecting his review of this. This is easily the best 3D Zelda game by far. 7/10 is way to harsh. Jim has been outspoken about his hate for Nintendo for a long long time and now it’s getting to him. 9/10 is the lowest score out of hundreds of reviews. A 7/10 is just attention whoring and trying to get back at Nintendo. Shame on you, Jim.

    • darksteel6

      no it ain’t.

      • Ken Kimmell

        Yeah it really is. 9/10 is the lowest score out of hundreds of reviews. Jim is doing this purely for attention and his hatred of Nintendo.

        • theeheadache

          right..

        • darksteel6

          considering Jim gets no ad revenue from people visiting his site, you are completely and totally off-base there.

          • Carter

            attention = money or?

          • darksteel6

            moron

        • Carter

          I disagree, but I also agree at the same time. I’m conflicted.

        • Geebun

          You know there’s this thing called having an opinion right? To me Skyward Sword is easily the best zelda game since the SNES and I have no interest in this game as it seems to take way too much from Minecraft and Skyrim for my likings but I’m not going to say people are wrong when they say this is their favorite Zelda games.

          • Carter

            I don’t think he’s saying that Jim isn’t allowed to have an opinion, only that he personally (opinion) thinks that Jim’s opinion might be skewed. Might be.

          • Geebun

            Claiming 7/10 is way too harsh is pretty close to “Your opinion is wrong.” 😛

          • Carter

            But do we really need to explain that what we’re typing is our opinion though, without other people attacking us as if we’re taking someone else’s opinion away?

            Jim said his thing, now Ken is saying his.

            Neither of them should be obliged to say ‘THIS IS MY OPINION BY THE WAY GUYS.’

            Don’t you think?

            Okay maybe I’m wrong in this case, this guy does seem to be commenting as if he’s stating facts. MB.

          • Geebun

            I never said they had to say it was their opinion…but claiming Jim didn’t like the game because it’s Nintendo just seems kind of silly, maybe he just didn’t like the game because of the multiple reasons he pointed out in his review.

        • Fallen Prime

          I think you’re flaming for attention.

        • Viking Mana

          Oh, right, you’ve proven a former point of mine by immediate reverting to the “Jim is just doing this for attention!”-tactic when he has nothing positive to gain from said attention.

          If you really think his score is too harsh, and based entirely on his distaste for Nintendo, then why don’t you explain what arguments he’s made in his review that you think are false, instead of just proclaiming that this game is a 9/10 by default, and that no other opinion is possible?

    • Fallen Prime

      Buddy.

      Your roll.

      Maybe slow it.

    • Viking Mana

      Dear Ken Kimmell.

      Do you understand the concept of subjective opinions, and how some people might have different opinions, and how something you may have enjoyed might not be enjoyed by others?

      I assume not, given that you’ve already said that a 7/10 is “Way too harsh”, as though it was a 3/10.

    • Nathan Aldana

      I mean. the only zelda game I ever completed was the one with the wind fish. So I guess to me that makes it the best one.

      • Powermad80

        Link’s Awakening, and that’s a damn good one.

    • Mister Lamp

      Iunno, it seems fair. I’d personally have given it like a 3/10 based on just the fact that it has a weapon durability system, which has never been fun in the history of video games.

    • Nygile Oliver

      It’s not attention whoring at all, he wrote an ENTIRE review explaining his points and they are all equally valid, even if you disagree with them. We can all have different views, that’s the beauty of something like video games. Even if you disagree with him, what are you gonna do? Break your weapons on him? :^)

    • stryker1121

      Wow you cracked that code, Ken.

    • galactix100

      Complaining about a review score is just attention whoring and trying to get back at Jim. Shame on you, Ken Kimmell.

    • Jinx 01

      A 7 isn’t bad, it literally says “GOOD” right below the score. Get over it.

    • Muddy Scarecrow

      You didn’t actually read the review did you? Since all you’re talking about is the score I’m going to assume you didn’t actually read the review. And who the fuck cares if 9/10 is the lowest score it’s gotten? It’s just as easy to assume that those people are lying about their scores because they’re pledging allegiance to Nintendo or just don’t wanna upset the fans. Not saying that’s true. Just saying that going by your logic it’s just as likely.

    • Wolfie

      You know what’s also attention whoring? Blaming critics for bullshit cause you got your nipples in a twist cause they didn’t totally fellatio a game you love, and using “BUT EVERYONE ELSE” as an excuse.

    • Jake

      At the height of Jim’s “fuck Konami” phase, he gave Phantom Pain a 9/10. Your logic doesn’t check out.

    • CaitSeith

      I disagree. Jim is very adverse towards microtransactions too, and they don’t affect the game scores for those games that have them.

  • Trafalgar

    “Truly, I wish I could say I understood what all the critics were raving about in their onslaught of 10/10 reviews, but I don’t.”

    Aw, comon jim that ones easy: Diffrent people like diffrent things 😉

    • Fallen Prime

      True. Some people like the taste of Hylian cum.

      [/s]

      • Kitnighty

        woah dude

  • Theclaw Yaww

    Great review I wondered if I was gonna buy cause it got only 10s and people saying “one of the best game of all time” but when I saw gameplay it didnt looked that good. You brought up things I havent seen any other reviewer do.

    P.S. Twilight Princess IS the best Zelda

    • Powermad80

      Twilight Princess has by far and away the best dungeons in zelda and I love it immensely but even I can’t put it above BotW.

      • Andy24

        I’m not a huge fan of TP dungeons, they’re so lame puzzle-design wise. They nailed atmosphere, but they rely on the classic Zelda puzzle that makes you feel smart. Alas, they aren’t actually clever and they’re very self-contained. Mark Brown from Gamemaker Toolkit elaborated on this quite wonderfully.

      • Theclaw Yaww

        Thats cool I just love TP the dungeons as you said are probably the best, I love that it has an actual cool story and cinematic feel to it and the combat and Items are great. The biggest flaws is that the wolf mechanic could have been utilized better and the soundtrack is repetetive and isnt orchestral

  • cowboyjimmy

    i wonder if somebody will say something like, “ah, its Jim being Jim again, going against the grain as usual, AC2, MW2, MK7, ETC

  • Tommy Laukkanen

    Sounds a lot like my experience

  • Daniel

    I wonder if Roger Ebert got this much shit when he gave Godfather Part II a 3/4.

    • CaitSeith

      There was no Internet back then, so no.

  • 7/10 sounds fairly reasonable from everything I’ve seen and heard about the game; but, would you say it’s worth buying a Switch just for it? You know, like many other places do.

    • darksteel6

      Some people like Yahtzee have said that you’re better off getting the Wii U version.

  • Amer1ka

    As a person who has played this game I have to say Jim is fairly spot on with his criticism. However, the negatives he cites are important for some people (me) and less so for others. So if the things he criticized are important to you, like the durability system (a big one for me), the dungeons being broken up (less so for me), the frame rate drops and pop-in/out (I don’t care here) the “score” is going to change. Jim isn’t wrong…however, I only really care about the point he brought up in regards to durability and I guess stamina as it is also super annoying.

    So, before you go and flip out, know that since Jim actually put serious thought into detailing the issues you can make a quick judgement as to whether or not the game is higher than a 7/10 for YOU. For me it’s an 8/10 even though I acknowledge Jim’s complaints since he’s definitely not wrong for citing them. I just don’t care about a couple of the issues he had as much.

    Some of you need to adopt this mentality when you read reviews. The only bad reviews, IMO, are the ones that don’t explain the pros and the cons in detail so that I can add my own personal weight to them.

  • Viking Mana

    It’s funny, but I assumed this game wasn’t all that great when I saw the initial 10/10, 5/5 ratings from all major outlets. I somehow can’t help but feel like those outlets were worried about negative reactions from overzealous, over-hyped fanboys for anything less than a glowing review.

    Of course there are also going to be people here who don’t understand that they can still enjoy the game even though Jim has a different opinion. >.>

    • darksteel6

      Me too, i’m always suspicious when I see that many perfect scores for a game. Feels like deja vu as I recall the same thing happening with Bioshock Infinite, perfect scores for weeks, then people slowly started to peel apart the layers of the game and found out several major flaws.

    • Muddy Scarecrow

      That’s something I’ve never understood about the backlash Jim gets sometimes. Like how people got so angry when he said Overwatch wasn’t getting a game of the year award because of its microtransactions and they all tried to bargain to convince him to make an exception. Like…Why the fuck do you care? Tons of other sites probably gave it GOTY. Hell you can give it one yourself! Who the hell cares if a Boglin obsessed pog fucker can’t validate your precious spray box catalyst he’s only one reviewer among thousands!

  • KaoTeK

    Oh this is gonna boil some piss. Thanks for the great reviews this year, because of you I bought RE7, Nioh and Horizon and loved all 3.

    Now i don’t have to be so jelly of my switch owning mates 🙂

    • Fallen Prime

      Jim’s testimony is part of the reason I’m legit contemplating Titanfall 2. Never thought I would, I haven’t done online multiplayer since Halo Reach.

      • KaoTeK

        Get it, it’s a fantastic game, both campaign and multi

      • galactix100

        TF 2’s damn good. MP might be a challenge because the player base isn’t huge. It’s not dead just not massive because EA fucked it.

        • I mean what company thinks it’s a good idea to fucking release the game alongside the most POPULAR shooter franchises????

          • galactix100

            Their thinking was they’d win the fps war that year if they front loaded BF 1 and TF 2 because people would buy either or both of them and not have the money or interest to buy CoD a week later.

      • Spectre197

        its 25 bucks right now on Amazon its well worth it;

    • darksteel6

      I find there’s nothing to be jealous of considering the lackluster game lineup

      • Carter

        I was surprised at how few games were actually releasing on the Switch at launch.

        I think in the long run even without a lot of AAA support, the Switch could be fantastic with good indie support. (+ Nintendo, obviously)

        • Powermad80

          The worst case scenario is basically it becomes a newer, stronger Vita with the entire Nintendo first party lineup. That’s all I need, personally.

          And in reality, at the very least it’s going to get all the 3DS’ old mainstay third party series like SMT and Monster Hunter.

        • I don’t think launch games are the important part. I’m not buying one ’til summer because of Spla2n, but even after that, I’ll have Fire Emblem Warriors and Super Mario Odyssey to look forward to. By staggering the releases, even people who adopted early will have games to play all year, instead of just in the first month.

          • darksteel6

            I’m just burned out on Mario at this point.

          • That’s fair, even considering how much it seems to be breaking the conventions I was getting tired of. As usual, we’ll see how it turns out when it’s actually in people’s hands.

          • galactix100

            But it also makes it near pointless to own one now because there’s fuck all to play, especially if you want games that are better than 7/10 which as we all know might as well be a 2.

          • Assuming you grade games by the exact same standards Jim does, of course.

            I think the bigger problem is that this is also on the Wii U, which is what I bought it for. The launch is lacking a killer app.

          • galactix100

            I was being a bit sarcastic. Even so you’re spending upwards of £300 or your regional equivalent for a new console with 1 game worth getting at present. The lack of backwards compatibility kinda shows just how out of touch Nintendo are considering it’s been one of the biggest complaints about xbone and PS 4 to the point it was an E3 mic drop moment for MS. The lack of a killer app is just a further example of this. The lack of a killer app was why I held off on getting a current gen console until Dragon Age came out.

          • Rohaq

            The whole “staggered releases” lark only makes sense because of the lack of games though – it doesn’t remove the lack of games as an issue.

            If a manufacturer made a car that stopped working after 10,000 miles, I wouldn’t be happy if they claimed that they made it last longer by limiting it to only driving 50 miles a week, after which you’d have to wait until next week to keep on driving it.

  • bimmyz

    time to update, wild card bitchez!

  • theeheadache

    looks good and fun, sounds somewhat frustrating, but 3d Zeldas were never for me.

    Glad to see it’s super fun despite it’s faults.

    • SavingPrincess

      Link to the Past/Link’s Awakening 4 life…

  • Graeme Vaughey

    Thank you. Easily the best and most even handed review I have read. I agree whole heatedly with almost all of the flaws you have highlighted (I don’t seem to be having any framerate issues though, either because I am playing on a different system or am not so sensitive to them). It pains me sincerely every time I look at all of the perfect scores out there and wonder, “what the hell is wrong with me? – why can’t I seem to get the same level of enjoyment out of this game as others?” that surface level of frustrations which you have highlighted just seems to push me away all the time. I think, maybe, that it makes a difference whether you play the game in a goal focused manner, or if you are just there to sink into its world, idly uncovering new discoveries, not caring if you are beat, since you just get up again and start over, taking the game is it comes. I’m playing goal-orientated, and that may be my fault: progress is painstakingly slow – the rewards spread far to thin and wide, and while I feel relatively absorbed while playing, when I look back on the hours I’ve put in, I marvel at how little I have achieved and often feel reluctant to boot up the game each time.

  • Alex

    I thought I was being harsh by rating this an eight. But I think I understand Jim’s view. The fragile weapons, durable enemies, low stamina, and the frame drops are all bullshit.

  • Colforbin

    after it came out, as soon as i heard “weapon durability” and “stamina wheel”, it was an instant no-buy for me. i’m the kind of guy that would say “fuck this game” the first time my best weapon shattered in a boss fight or i fell off a mountain side in the rain, add in the bulletsponge OP enemies and my ulcer is thankful i didn’t buy it

  • SavingPrincess

    You know what didn’t have stamina meters and weapon durability?

    Link to the muthafukin Past.

    • Carter

      6/10 game imo.

      Controls feel clunky. Minish cap felt a lot better to play.

      • Ferrick

        well yeah… link to the past is an old game, way older than minish cap, so it’s expected

        • Carter

          Similar hardware limitations though.

      • Powermad80

        THERE’S TWO OF US!

  • I’m beginning to assume that the missing out of Wii U from the platforms that games are available on is an intentional goof. I’ve got no evidence it is other than it’s happened at least twice but I’m gonna assume it anyway.

    edit: also accidental double link to the “horrible night for a curse” pic instead of the shiekah slate link and “I cannot recommend finding as many “hearty” foods as you can” wants an “enough” somewhere.

  • nikolas orava

    7/10 is the lowest score that can be given to a video game

    • Spectre197

      Only at IGN

  • Terriosaurus Hex

    Whoa…as soon as I saw the high comment number, then an extra 60 posted as I was reading the review, I felt the power of the “7” rating flow through a river of piss and vinegar (possibly at a post 100°C temperature).
    Time to take a big drinkies. No, not from the river, you dirty bastard…from the bottle. Of BOOZE!!
    By the way, nice looking format change here. It has that sinister corporation’s questionnaire vibe about it. Always arousing.

  • stryker1121

    So people are presumably saving their ‘good’ weapons for boss battles and such? That doesn’t sound much fun. Weapon durability in games sucks in general, but not having a repair system is inexcusable.

    • Powermad80

      The thing is most weapons around you will do the job just fine, there’s not quite a huge disparity between the damage done by a random club lying around and the higher end weapons you’re using, unless you’re still in the starting areas.

      Then there’s also *that* sword that inevitably is available that, while there is a system in place to keep you from constantly relying on it and nothing else, will always be at your side.

  • Clémy-sensei

    I love the game to bits and I think maybe it’s going to be my favourite Zelda game, but it HAS many flaws, and not everyone can or want to overlook them.

    You make extremely good points in this review and some of the flaws you talk about are ones I picked up on, I can’t dissagree with you on any criticism on made ( though some stuff didn’t bother me as they did you. I don’t mind the shrines much, the menus never bothered me and neither does weapon durability, though it IS a bit annoying to break a sweet ass fire long sword…).

    Overall I totally agree with you, even though I love the game (I would’ve given it an 8 or a 9, personnally), the criticism are fair and I can’t argue with them.

    And in the end, a review won’t change my enjoyment of the game, so it’s chill.

  • Brandon Christopher

    The moment when you see the featured comment and all others like it. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/096186fd8534b14bc3598697381193d70be7ece9ff880c26cbe1276ac88a3121.jpg

    • Fixit

      Indeed, that was my thought. I’m not the least surprised to see those comments, because to be human is to be a dick, but it’s still rather disappointing.

  • Dr Neeley

    The weapon durability and stamina bar don’t bother me, but dang that rain is the worst.

  • Aaron Ricard

    I agree with your criticisms even if I would personally give it a 9.5-10, but you if you fail to understand why critics give this game 10s you could ask Laura in the next podquisition.

  • Tyler Szabo

    Never liked weapon durability. First time I encountered it was the first Dark Cloud game, which was fantastic even though the weapon durability was terrible. At least in Dark Cloud you could reasonably repair, which doesn’t seem the case with BotW. That’s why I loved Dark Cloud 2 so much more from a gameplay perspective even if it’s story wasn’t as good.

    • Amy

      yeah what I always thought this game needed was some sort of baseline weapon that would never break but wasn’t as powerful as the others, so you always had something to fall back on and the weapons you picked up worked as temporary damage boosts

  • Jamesworkshop

    And if you don’t like the review score, just call it Clickbait
    because an Appeal to motive, can never be spurious…

  • beef5163 .

    FAKE NEWS
    LOCK HIM UP

  • Matt Scott

    Jesus Christ. “Someone on the internet doesn’t wank as hard as I do over Zelda so I best post comments fuelled by pure hate and anger.” The gaming community truly is getting pathetic. 7 is still a very good game for fucks sakes.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      YES!

  • LargeAndReadyToCharge

    This review is bang on, he’s right the game is kinda trash.

    Who wants to have the limitations of stamina and other annoying challenges such as tricky weather etc.

    It’s 2017 there shouldn’t even be a health bar, there should be a red haze around the side of the screen when I get damaged so I can retreat and have all my health back. Down with mechanics! Down with mechanics!

    • He didn’t even say the game was trash. He said the game was Good but it has a lot of bugging issues. I love how the manchildren think it’s BAD and WRONG to point these out.

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        Exactly! SO many people here getting salty over Jim’s opinion. It’s Jim, I love his opinions that’s why we’re here!

        • contradictory opinions are good! It’s like when rooster teeth tried to dismiss and devalue the opinion of JEFF GERTSMAN on Fallout 4 XD

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            LMAO YES! I REMEMBER THAT ONE.

          • Yeah XDD They were such cocksuckers to fallout 4 then. It’s hillarious, plus the fact it’s Jeff Gertsman saying it. we know how blunt he is about what he does and doesn’t like XD

          • makiHyunda

            A bit off topic but does alanah pierce go on that show as I heard she was dating one of the presenters?

      • Note5

        These Nintendo fanboys are so narrow minded.

      • Lyon Eng

        This dude called Jim, is not a good reviewer xD he just did this to make people visit his dumb site (as me) an attention whore nonetheless

        • Jim is patreon funded and gets NOTHING from clicks on his website, so what would be the point in giving it a GOOD score. If it was Jeff Gertsman that gave zelda a 7/10, you wouldn’t be here saying he was trying to get attention. Totalbiscuit is even making fun of you whiny babies daily now XD

        • Disqus Dikus

          “I don’t agree with your opinion of your review for a game you bought, therefore I am superior in that I am me and you are not me, therefore superior me.” -Internet Commenter.

          Its ok to disagree. You’ve enjoyed it, so that’s what counts. How does them not enjoying the game as much as you have enjoyed it make their review any less valid?

          If you’ve played it and enjoyed it, I don’t even know why you are here reading a review for a game that you already played, therefore already have an opinion on. Unless you enjoy their commentary, either that or you’re looking for justification. Reviews are subjective and biased in nature, as you bring in your own expectations and views into any game or medium.

          Do you also beat your girlfriend if she isn’t as excited as you about a Zelda game?

          To me, this game looks like a 5/10 and I think Jim is giving me a short serving by refusing to validate my bias and giving it an honest 7/10.

          • A-fucking-men

          • Kardes21

            Which also allows him to be more editorial. Personal opinion aside, though, there is a lot to like about Zelda.

            The weapons breaking down happens less with stronger weapons, and I think it was a very conscious decision so the game is challenging the whole way through (You won’t always have a high level weapon in opening sections for example)

            Also, unlike most RPGs, fighting in Zelda gets you nothing experience wise, so you can avoid some battles and continue on. In any case, the game still has fun surprises after 20 hours or more of playing, and I’ve only travelled to about a quarter of the map. Each region has something distinct about its topography so far, and some colorful NPCs to meet.

            I won’t go on, but, you are missing out on a very great game, and comment sections like these are important for others to voice their counter arguments, which is what I’m doing. Is his opinion valid? Yes, but, based on my personal experience with the game, a 7 is harsh and overly critical.

          • dragonwaz .

            Missing out on a great game? What fucking universe are you from that a 7/10 is a don’t buy?

          • Disqus Dikus

            I’ll stick to occasionally watching my girlfriend play it. Zelda seriously isn’t my cup of tea. She is having a blast, though. More power to her. And to you, for that matter.

    • Kingtrace

      Not only does Jim like this game, but the stamina system is unbalanced, weapon durability is incredibly frustratingly designed, and the weather system is great right up until you’re prevented from playing the game based solely on RNG.

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        Yeah that’s what I was trying to say.

      • Note5

        The absurd stamina system and weapon fragility system is typical Nintendo Underpowered Overpriced principle.

        Edit: Underpowered Overpriced and Overrated Nintendo manchildren products.

        • mosh

          LOL
          Trash comment

    • DSOCofficial .

      Please tell me you are kidding.

  • Davorbasic

    So much beautiful salt in the comments

  • Kitnighty

    I like the rain effect on climbing. I truly do. I wish I had the vocabulary to put my feelings into better words than, “it makes the world feel more real”, but there it is.
    For me, it has the same sort of effect as struggling through extremely cold or hot climates; it feels like it’s you against the elements. Struggling to make your way up the face of a slippery cliff, while rain is showering down on you and lightning crashes…
    It may not be a survival game in mechanics, but it feels like one in tone to me, y’know?

    The weapon durability and stamina can munch my cunt, though.

    Anyway…all very legitimate complaits, all very well explained. Well done, sir.

    • galactix100

      Verisimilitude, might be the word you’re looking for.

  • Loona Chan

    When I heard about the survival/crafting elements and weapon durability, I was out. A spiritual successor to LoZ with the charm of the more recent games would have been great. Ubisoft’s Legend of Zelda has no appeal to me.

    • EM87

      That’s exactly what this game is. A spiritual successor to the first Zelda.

      • Loona Chan

        The problem is, the original Zelda had all the charm and lovable characters and story elements of Pac-Man, Pong, and Donkey Kong. That was fine for the day, but they greatly improved on it with later games. Then they thought stripping that charm out was the only way to make it like the original.

        • EM87

          That’s… just not true.

          • Loona Chan

            It’s almost like two people can see different things as true… like an opinion or something.

            I’ve watched Let’s Plays of it. Some characters have a fair bit of charm, moreso than LoZ for sure, but it all just seems so… by the numbers. OOT and Wind Waker had charm. You cared about what was going on because the game took the time to give you reason to care. Humble origins turn into a world-saving quest. Things don’t go quite as planned. You meet a saucy fish-person who wants to marry you. It’s charming.

            LoZ was a challenging little adventure game with a revolutionary feature for its day. But you care about it about as much as you cared about Pac-Man eating an orange. From what I’ve seen of BotW, it expects you to create the charm. No deal for me, at least.

          • TheBLD

            I don’t want to go too deep into spoilers here, but you are literally listing examples from other games of things that happen in BotW, too. It’s kind of clear you haven’t seen very much of the game.

          • Loona Chan

            That’s fair, I haven’t seen every bit of it. It is a long time commitment. But even from the beginning it seems so clunky. You’re expected to just care about Gannon and Zelda and all this stuff that happened in the past. The beginning area is dull and barren. The first people you meet are boring hylians. There’s a reason why OOT put all the boring hylians in Castle Town in the background. In the beginning of OOT you wake up in a town full of immortal forest children and learn about their religion, internal politics, and economy seamlessly and without really realizing it. The fact that you meet Zora down the line some time seems like an obligation, not a point in its favor.

          • EM87

            The NPCs have more charm than in the games you’re mentioning thanks to the fact that they all have their unique routines. Watching let’s play of a game isn’t the same as playing it, you can’t expect to see everything. It’s not the same thing as going into a village, talking to people, and watching their routines based on tod, wheather, your clothes, your weapons, etc.

          • Loona Chan

            Considering how bad the controls on the Switch look, actually playing it with the controls and framerate drops would probably make my opinion even worse on a mechanical level.

          • EM87

            Bwhahahahahah

            ok keep trolling man, you’re in the right place

          • Loona Chan

            I’m not trolling, I’ve been a PC gamer for 10 years and framerate dips down to 20 drive me mad. Non-intuitive controls drive me mad. The fact that I would have to pay 70 dollars for a decent controller to play a 720p game on my 2k monitor that won’t even play at a stable FPS… yeah Lets Plays are probably making me quite generous towards it.

  • Ryan Hulse

    This was a good review. It really was. He talked about the things that he liked and the things that bothered him. That’s fair. I have no problem with that. What I DO have a problem with is the massive influx of anti-Nintendo people who are going to flock to Jim as the “Messiah” or something like that for all the news to make people hate on Nintendo and read this review and stroke their massive hate stiffies to the tune of “Nintendo is utter shit and anyone who even likes their games is a Nintendo fanboy.” I’m not saying that it’s Jim’s fault, I’m just lamenting the inevitability of the dominoes all lining up as they would have naturally and their inevitable fall.

    • EM87

      It already started.

      • Fallen Prime

        Says the guy saying the review was unreasonable.

        • EM87

          Because it is. He’s still right about the rest

          • Fallen Prime

            Stop ignoring the 7/10 point. He still said the game is good.

    • Matt Scott

      Thing is, every console and whatnot has fanboys. All as bad as each other. The haters will flock for proof of their closeteted theories of Zelda not being perfect and fanboys will flock to post disgusting messages of hate. Like the featured comment up there. Both are as bad as each other. Defend what you love, yes. But any need for “drink bleach”? Or anyone baiting Nintendo fans with this review? No. None at all. Y’know?

      • Ryan Hulse

        When I said that he would attract people that hated Nintendo, I didn’t mean that ‘Nintendo isn’t perfect’ people. I meant ‘Everything Nintendo does is shit and the company needs to die horribly. Anyone who likes Nintendo is a blind fanboy that has no taste.’ That sort of person. I know this because I’ve seen them in the comments of his videos. People who say that BOTW is terrible and they can rely on Jim to shut it down, assuming that he just hates Nintendo and will give it a low score because he’s Jim Sterling and hates Nintendo along with them.

      • Ryan Hulse

        All I’m trying to say is that maybe this is something that needs to be addressed. Jim needs to say that he didn’t think that the game was shit and he didn’t think that the game was great.

        • Matt Scott

          But doesn’t a 7/10 suggest that?

          • Ryan Hulse

            You read all the comments of people declaring the game to be utter shit and tell me if you still think that.

          • Matt Scott

            Brother, there is too much hatred forced onto us in the world. Let’s not go digging for more 😉

  • Jamesworkshop

    As for weapon durability, it looks like all of the weapons are like the Giant’s Knife, which doesn’t sound particularly appealing.

    I think i’d prefer a system where if weapons are really that fragile, it should be fragile for the enemies as well, otherwise the world seems kind of odd

    • buzzardslicer

      Ya but imagine they’re are hundreds of giants knives lying around along with many many more weapons of varying durability

    • Powermad80

      Giant’s Knife broke in like 3 hits, most weapons have lots of mileage before they snap.

    • CaitSeith

      Enemy weapons on flames break while they wield them too. On other topic, I kinda like that you can use boomerangs as both ranged and melee weapons.

  • TimKovich

    I will now keep this page open for the next month to find the best negative comments.

  • Random Marine

    Boi this gonna be good…..

    • Davorbasic

      It’s already having a great start

      • Random Marine

        This will give so much hate that it deserves a book about it…..

  • red13

    Careful for everyone who comes to see the comments…
    It’s a War down bellow. Burn them all, Burn everyone who disagree with me!!!

  • LargeAndReadyToCharge

    Zelda ‘fans’ acting like they know their own favourite franchise. WRONG.

    The game is bad, get over it idiots.

    • Loona Chan

      I don’t think it’s bad, it’s just most critics play AAA poop all day every day so when they get something that isn’t buggy and insulting they give it a 10/10 best game ever.

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        Exactly, such a bad game and so many people are just riding it too much.

        • Chris T

          It’s retards like you that keep the comment section amusing. Thank you xD

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            Don’t worry about it, I’ll be here for a good 10 more minutes I expect.

      • makiHyunda

        The frame rate issues are as bad as a bug if bit an actual technical issue but I agree with your point.

    • See, that’s going down the other end of the spectrum. I wouldn’t characterize it as “bad”, it just has some unnecessary flaws that get in the way of a much better experience.

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        Come on mate we both know full well that it’s pure nostalgia in play. Nintendo haven’t made a good game since Metroid on the NES.

        • Muddy Scarecrow

          I hated the shit out of Link to the Past but Link Between Worlds (a game that closely emulates it) is my favorite in the series. So no. I’m not gonna agree with the nostalgia claim there. Sorry.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            I know it’s your opinion but you’re wrong.

          • That’s actually kind of interesting. Big fan of both games here, and I just got done replaying both of them recently. I know some of the changes introduced in ‘Between Worlds’ weren’t popular, but I hadn’t heard of anyone liking it MORE. 🙂

            Just goes to show how complicated and delicate the whole game design process can be!

          • Muddy Scarecrow

            I personally just found Link to the Past to be a little boring. The dungeons felt samey, it was easy to get lost (my fault more than anything probably) and the dark world was just kind of uninteresting to me. Just a dark pallet swap of Hyrule. In Between Worlds the dungeons were super colorful and distinct, I loved that you could do them in any order, I found all of the characters delightfully distinct and fun, and I absolutely loved the painting mechanic.

          • ATBro

            Keep in mind that you are talking about two games that were 22 years apart. That is a huge deal in such a young medium. It was incredible how ahead of the curve LttP was back then, that even to this day, Nintendo hasn’t been able to definitively outdo it.

          • NothingSpecial

            … can you explain how one gets lost in a top-down fixed-camera game?

            I have the worst sense of direction ever, and 3D zelda games _before_ breath of the wild have often frustrated me to no end because of that (I don’t blame Jim for this review, but I strongly disagree with his critiques–this is easily my favorite Zelda game of all time, *including* because of the stamina [don’t forget that link is carrying a TON of shit all the time–and it would’ve been much more frustrating for Nintendo to add a Material Weight system that factored into stamina calculations rather than use this conservative flat stamina value] and weapon durability systems), but I have never once gotten lost in a 2D zelda game.

          • Muddy Scarecrow

            Lemme rephrase that. It’s not that I got lost. It’s that I didn’t really know what to do because unlike modern zelda games like Majora’s Mask you don’t have anybody telling you what to do at all times. And I’ll admit that’s definitely more my fault than anything.

          • Matrim

            It’s totally possible to get lost in a top down game, particularly if there are a lot of samey environments and a poor map.

          • Sekhat Temporus

            Actually, more goes to show, what people think of a game is a subjective thing. Everyone will like, dislike, love and hate different games, for different reasons. And, that is ok.

        • Paul Barnes

          Nice troll.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            What?

  • kotsosmikroudis

    Nice review jim! I was wondering , what did you think of the final boss? Personally, although i loved the game , i was very conflicted about the final boss. There is something about it that just doesnt click for me. If anybody else has thoughts on the final boss please share them. Im intrested to see what people think

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      Please don’t spoil here. Nvm I can just block you and not have to worry.

      • kotsosmikroudis

        Sorry about that one

  • Mister Lamp

    This review is over double what I would have given the game, based just on the durability system.

  • Your Honor

    Great, balanced review, Jim. It’s always good to have some truly critical reviews in this industry.

  • John Pearl

    Pfft. 1 / 10

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      Right? Jim was being conservative here to spare the feelings of these menchildren. It’s Nintendo who paid for the reviews and they don’t like Jim!!

      • Except some people will always be angry despite what you do, either because that’s how fandoms work, or because they think it’s funny. “Formula for failure”, and all that jazz.

        • LargeAndReadyToCharge

          Bang on.

  • Hahaha

  • Tadici

    Your Dark Souls comparison doesn’t quite work. You say that one hit kill enemies are a negative for the game while Dark Souls is full of them. And without one hit deaths this game would be a joke. It’s so easy to have a ton of meals that heal a lot. If you didn’t die quickly, you wouldn’t die ever since it isn’t like Monster Hunter where eating something takes up a lenghty animation.

    • Tadici

      Also as a side note this is like my 3rd open world game after The Witcher 3 and Shadow of Mordor, so a lot of the problems Jim’s talking about are non-issues for me.

    • Xirbtt

      Yeah if you never level up in Dank Souls every late game enemy is a one hit wonder. 😛

  • the_atm

    I was seeing all these 10/10 reviews and wondering if this game was actually that good, maybe there was something not being said? Than I watched one and the guy literally said “There’s frequent frame drops, down to teens in any area with tall grass, and the starting zone, but I had fun with the game so it doesn’t matter”… that’s when I knew there were troubles with the game that people just weren’t talking about to keep it’s perfect score up…

    • Xirbtt

      Yes, people didn’t just like the game despite it’s flaws. It was a secret shadowy cabal conspiracy! 😛

      • the_atm

        I knew it! I mean I didn’t want to jump to conclusions but this was my thought all along! #ExposedGameMedia #ConspiracyUncovered!

        • Xirbtt

          IGN IS #FAKE #GAMING #NEWZ

  • Raoul Heusbourg

    I also think it was shameful for Nintendo to not use the controller display in the Wii U version. They cut it all off, so that the Switch version stays superior to the Wii U version. You just look at a black screen with a box saying to’ Touch the screen in order to play on the controller’. Even when naming a horse, you can’t use the touchscreen!!! It was supposed to and should be used for the map, inventory management, etc. Just a huge middle finger to all the Wii U-users.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      Really? Wii U version got the stamina bar too? 4/10, maybe 5 if they’re lucky.

      • Raoul Heusbourg

        Yes, as round as ever. But I can forgive the stamina-meter, it’s not the thing that bothered me the most. The game is still really good, but it could have been more and you know they cut many things out because of the Switch release…Too bad.

    • Rohaq

      Does that mean it works particularly well with the Wii U Pro controller? I think I’d probably rather play it on a standard controller anyway.

      • Xirbtt

        Yeah I use the pro controller 99% of the time. The other 1% is for motion puzzles which I think could have been done with an anolog stick anyway if they bothered to code it. 🙁

      • Raoul Heusbourg

        Yeah, if you have the Pro contoller, use it. You won’t be missing a thing…

  • uxtull

    Interesting, I may actually read this one. I expect enjoy the game when I eventually get the Switch, the past installments I played were mostly in 8/10 range for me and I liked those.

  • Tank Soul

    Thank fuck someone without hype smeard, Nintendo cum glasses. I honestly feel like Nintendo agression towards critics like yourself was a success in the fact that critics want to appease Nintendo with over bloated review scores to avoid being labeled a “influencer”. Sad to see so many budding reviewer bow to Nintendos arrogance as much as mainstream critics do. Thank god for you jim.

  • Max Waller

    so brave Jim, you are the voice of our generation

  • Paul Barnes

    Very fair review. It manages to encompass my feelings almost entirely with regards to the game.

    I really don’t like the survival genre and generally heaviky dislike games with stamina and durability meters, but oddly enough BotW charms me enough to forgive it, and even enjoying it! Making sure I’m prepared with a good load out and meals and elixirs is part of the experience for me.

    I’m only about a quarter of the way through main story and shrines so I’m wondering how I’ll feel about it later down the line.

  • Appretaur

    You’ll never be as recognized for your attempts to bring attention to the Castlevania 2 text box as that other James, James. You know, the James that plays games that actually hail from and represent the oldest era of gaming (and not the James that made games that couldn’t even hold a candle up to those distant standards).

  • Fartman420

    Don’t get too pissed off, Jimbob gave Dead Rising 4 an 8/10. This is the man that, judging by his review scores, is saying, that Dead Rising 4…..is a better game than Breath of the Wild.

    • Mister Lamp

      So, “This man has opinions and is therefore wrong”? God forbid a video game reviewer, you know, review video games.

    • A ridiculous comparison, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

    • Luna Kazemaru

      you salty fanboy’s tears are the best

    • Michael Alexander Seiler

      To be fair, it is. I admit I am being facetious here but my argument stands.

    • keironsmith123

      Two completely differently games so sorry that card doesn’t work, i rate Pokemon Shuffle a 8 myself but that doesn’t mean i think its equal to FFXV what i also rate a 8, see how that works?

  • BlakeySFC

    Fantastic review Jim.

  • keironsmith123

    Fantastic review Jim and thank you for pointing out its flaws and marking it down for them rather then giving it blind love like everyone else because its Zelda.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      You are exactly right my friend.

      The game is down-right bad, and I’m not talking about the AC Unity (it’s kinda good but technically its a bad game) style of bad. No. There are no redeeming qualities to this game, pure and utter filth.

  • LargeAndReadyToCharge

    Everyone else, and I mean EVERY other reviewer was too scared to turn down Nintendo’s bribe. But Jim, no. Jim has that back BONE, that chip on his shoulder, that heart of STEEL that won’t break for anything.

    Only him, due to his absolutely incredible resolve, could see through the cracks of this utterly flawed, broken game. Only he could give us the one true >TRUE< review that we were all waiting for, and for that Jim, I thank you. I was gonna buy this game tomorrow as I've been a life-long Zelda fan, but after this inside scoop, I'm gonna buy Berserk, Band of the Horses instead, a game that is half the price and just as highly rated.

    • the reviews like that can be more useful than straight 10s

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        Couldn’t agree more mate.

    • Michael Zebley

      I agree it certainly isn’t a perfect game not a 10/10. 7 or maybe an 8

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        No Jim was holding back, truthfully its a 5 or a 6, honestly.

        It dips to 20fps sometimes, which knocks off at least 2 or 3 points.

        • Michael Zebley

          I can see your points. True.

        • Michael Zebley

          It is nice taking Zelda to work though. Lol.

    • buzzardslicer

      Ya Nintendo made sure to bribe reviewers for BOTW, but the mixed and negative reviews on the Switch itself? Nahhh, we don’t need to pay them

      • Thearesia Van Astrea

        Funny how Nintendo handed out free Switches only to Youtubers who positively cover Nintendo or are part of their scam partner program. lol

  • Terriosaurus Hex

    Why is bleach so fashionable with the youngsters these days anyway? They offer it to anybody that offends them. It’s a bland drink. Don’t they know of the wonderous cocktail of colourful chemicals under the kitchen sink just waiting to be guzzled? I can teach you people so…sooo much.

    Well, on the bright side, you may have won some favour back from those disgruntled Naughty Dog fans, assuming they’ve passed puberty now. How long ago was it? Everything’s a bit hazy and distant living in kitchen chemical catatonia.

    • Loona Chan

      I drank bleach when I was like, 4. It didn’t even kill me, you have to drink a lot of it. Do these people know what ammonia will do to you?

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        I drank shampoo as a child, wasn’t very nice to be honest. Not as severe as Bleach but hey.

  • Random Marine

    Heresy, i say…”You’re Fake News” lol

  • CyberlekVox

    Finally! A review I can agree with 100%. 10/10 my ass.

    • Chris T

      Just because it’s not a 10 out of 10 for him doesn’t mean it’s not for others. It’s all based on opinion and perspective. Could be a 3 out of 10 for some. Reviews are fo you to get a feel for a game but you can’t really have your own opinion until you get your hands on it. This is why I like demos and betas xD

    • Xirbtt

      Finally a comment I can call out for not playing the game! 😀

  • Fartman420

    Dead Rising 4, 8/10

    • Wolfie

      And your point is?…

      • Luna Kazemaru

        he is an upset it didn’t get 10/10 lol he had to post about dead rising twice

        • Wolfie

          Oh I know. I wanted to see what bullshit he had to say.

    • Luna Kazemaru

      you seem upset seeing as how you had to post about this twice

    • Loona Chan

      Is it really that much of a sin if he enjoyed Dead Rising 4 more than this game? It’s called personal preference. Some people don’t like shallow, open-world games with survival crafting elements and breakable weapons. I know I wouldn’t.

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        As shallow as the Mariana Trench.

    • Muddy Scarecrow

      For fuck’s sake it’s the COD MW3 debacle all over again. Comparing scores doesn’t do shit. Not if you ignore the reviews that contextualize them.

  • Muddy Scarecrow

    I am sad. I haven’t read the review. Instead here I am reading all the comments of salty fans who think that Jim is biased against Nintendo, is trying to get attention, or is actively trying to find flaws with it for petty reasons that make no sense seriously whoever wrote that comment what the hell are you even talking about? Anyway. All of this nonsense is taking up time that could be spent actually reading the review. Which I’m willing to bet most of the negative Nancies probably haven’t even read themselves. They just saw that insultingly (to them) low score and had little heart attacks.

    For what I want to be the last goddamn time but I know it won’t be: Jim doesn’t give a fuck about your attention. He doesn’t want it. He’s not biased. He’s not a troll. And he’s not playing the game wrong. He gave his honest opinion. And if you don’t like that…fine. That’s goddamn fine! If you liked the game then play the game! Why does it matter if our Holy Pog Fucker didn’t like it you still like it! So go and enjoy it! Who cares if his opinion doesn’t line up with the other AAA loving reviewers does it ever?! Why are you even surprised?! Just…Go play your game! Go cook mushrooms! Go hunt boars! Go set the forest on fire! Just…please go have fun. You’re really only hurting yourselves here.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      I agree! It’s an awful game and the fans should realise that. FUck their opinions.

      • Muddy Scarecrow

        No. No that’s…that’s not at all what I was saying what the fuck, dude? You completely missed the point please go away.

        • LargeAndReadyToCharge

          I’m with you dude, don’t worry about it.

          • Muddy Scarecrow

            Fuck off. How’s that for worrying.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            Getting a little emotional aren’t we?

          • Muddy Scarecrow

            You’re the new Diamond aren’t you?

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            Plat III atm so almost there.

  • Mark Blackburn

    Mariah

    You crazy? Bleach couldn’t kill jim it’s like monster energy to him.

    • Loona Chan

      The cornflake humunculus uses it as milk.

  • artisticMink

    *Scrolls down*

    *Ignores explanation and reasoning completly*

    *Reads score*

    7 /10 WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

    On a more serious note, i (think) i get where ya’re coming from.

  • Tim Dugan

    I personally, and respectfully disagree with your well reasoned opinion, sir.

    …do…I need to tell you to drink bleach now? I feel like that’s how disagreements on the internets work…I mean, I don’t know why I’d WANT you to do that. Seems overly dramatic…

    • Loona Chan

      You’re literally the worst person who has ever lived.

      • Tim Dugan

        I mean…I am a lawyer…so…I’ve heard worse 😀

  • Completely fair review. As a guy not much into 3D versions of Zelda (the overhead 2D games are my thing) I took a huge gamble and picked up a Switch and the game after some glowing, initial press… and found myself engrossed by it.

    I thought a tree branch, or simple stick breaking was fair. But then more proper, dedicated weapons broke after a fight or two. And bows weaken and break with every arrow shot (yet I can often retrieve arrows with no penalty).

    It was fucking ridiculous. Here I was playing this game with some FUN combat… yet I found myself avoiding confrontations. Yes, weapons are found everywhere, but grinding through and constantly swapping to a new weapon mid-combat was fucking *LAME*. And I can’t even use the d-pad shortcut to swap to another weapon — it doesn’t work if your hand is empty. You’re FORCED to pause and select a new weapon from the menu. Terrible UX. [UPDATE: This actually incorrect — hotswapping with an empty hand DOES work. Thanks, @Tadici.]

    Avoiding combat doesn’t have any real consequences, though — it’s not as if you acquire XP from combat, so not fighting unless completely necessary is a legitimate path through the game. (Which is not a path I’d WANT to take, except when necessary.)

    Having to choose between hearts and stamina is a joy-killer, too. I get what they were going for, letting you shape your Link however you like. (In a very limited fashion.)

    However, knowing that the only unbreakable weapon in the game requires 13 hearts… well, you know where this is going. All hearts, all the time, with my only goal to clear out 40 ‘puzzle bunkers’ (never going to NOT call them that, now).

    Despite all of this, I’m still having a great time. The world is so massive, dynamic, and full of interesting wonders to behold… it’s enough to overcome my frustrations and let me keep moving forward with it.

    But I can’t help but imagine how much MORE fun it’d be with slightly different design decisions made.

    If these things don’t bother you, that’s completely cool. These are personal reactions, and not everyone will react the same way. Nobody has to drink fucking bleach.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      wrong

    • Tadici

      Does the D-Pad shortcut really not work on the Switch with empty hands? Because it definitely does on the Wii U.

      • You’re absolutely right. I just tried it now and it WORKED! Now I feel like an ass. 😛

        Still, I have to go flipping through weapons to find one mid-combat. Kinda poopy. But this is good to know, because I had it in my head from early on that this was the behavior. (And in the middle of combat, you don’t think to try alternatives again, if you think it’ll fail. Heh.)

        • Tadici

          Well, I’m glad you know it now. Without the shortcut this would be ridiculous!
          I don’t really mind swapping weapons mid-combat. I actually like it if I think about it. If the weapons didn’t break or degraded very slowly, I’d just use the best option and repair it every once in a while. I mean that’s how we’re programmed to do it. The “best” way.
          And now the game forces me to use different weapons constantly and it takes like half a second to swap between weapons/bows.

  • Lon

    BoTW is hands down my favorite game of the last year. HOWEVER, I have to agree that there are issues that hold it back from being an even better game. The stamina limitations and weapon durability do feel like unnecessary joy killers. For example the countless 1 hit kill enemies you encounter regardless of how good your gear is does feel like cheap gimmick. To say this game is “perfect” or a 10 out of 10 is quite disingenuous and whereas a 7/10 seems a bit low personally I think this is a more that fair review.

  • Winsday

    This is maybe the worst review I have read in over a decade.

    • Fallen Prime

      Then you have a very narrow pool of people you read.

    • Wolfie

      So, then, I assume this is the only review you’ve read in over a decade?

    • Loona Chan

      This is the worst comment I’ve read in a minute. At least Mariah poured her heart out for us. You’re just lazy.

      • Winsday

        This review was lazy.

        • Wolfie

          And you continue to get lazier.

        • Fallen Prime

          Lazy would have been “7/10 it’s good but there’s stuff I didn’t like.”

          He gave 2,000 words, give or take, over to explaining the things he loves about Breath of the Wild and the things that soured the experience. And based on the score he supplied at the end, it is easily surmised (if you know how scaling works) that he still had a pleasant time with the game overall.

          Why are people so uptight over a good score?

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      You’ve seen the perfect scores this game has been getting and because
      you’re a little brat you’ve said to yourself “nuhuh it can’t be 10/10,
      it can’t be very good, I Winsday, Smart & Good Boy will find
      flaws with the game” and went into the review focusing on finding
      negatives rather than having an organic experience. 7/10 has been given
      purely to piss off zelda fans, there’s no way that this game is a 7/10.
      You’ve said in the past that people give Zelda games 10’s strictly
      because it’s Zelda but YOU only gave this a low score because it’s
      Zelda. If this wasn’t a Zelda game and some new Sony IP, I would bet my
      asshole that you wouldn’t have given a 7. On the subject of weapon
      durability, if the game let you have 1 cool weapon for the whole game
      like a little bratty fuck, the player would never feel the need to open
      chests and go hunting for fresh shit. Listen up WINS DAY, brainy
      good man. You have open world fatigue and you crave linearity like a
      cock in your ass, so you’ve played this game linearly, I bet you’ve not
      even been to Eventide island or cool shit like that, BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY
      CAN’T BE ARSED PLAYING ANOTHER OPEN WORLD GAME AND A ZELDA GAME THAT’S
      BEEN GETTING PRAISED. You crave negativity like a fart in the face
      Winsday. Play the game again when you aren’t in such a grumpy fuck boy
      mood or at least play it pretending like it’s not Zelda and this score
      will at least go up 1 point and keep Zelda fuck boys like me happy you
      slimey, heroin injecting fucking Cunt, mate.

      • Winsday

        The old “It got 10s because it’s Zelda!” You’re fucking clueless. Probably a teenager who has never played Zelda in your life. Grow up, dumbass.

        • LargeAndReadyToCharge

          That’s what I said but they acted like it was just my opinion, idiots!

          • Fallen Prime

            Girls! You’re BOTH pretty!

        • Wolfie

          You’re upset it didn’t get a 10/10, and you tell everyone else to grow up?

          Fuck off, child.

          • Winsday

            Grow up, dumb fuck.

          • Wolfie

            Man, you really are fucking lazy. Got anything better to throw at me, child?

          • Winsday

            How old are you, buddy?

            Get ready for school tomorrow, you miserable cunt.

          • Wolfie

            That’s better, but I’m still not really feeling it.

            I mean, that’s still pretty average to me. Try again.

          • Winsday

            You’re a walking midlife crisis who sounds like a teenager online, aren’t you?

            I can see it now.

            So respond and show, you miserable fuck.

          • Wolfie

            Hmm, not bad, not bad. I’ve still dealt with worse. But alright, alright. I’ll show.

            See, the thing is, I see someone like you, and I want to pity you, but I can’t even be bothered to do that much. You are such a fucking waste of human life and precious resources that to pity you would be to justify your existence in some means, and I simply cannot do that.

            You are the among the laziest, least original squirming bitch of a feces-born maggot that I have encountered. It’s like all you can do is repeat what pathetic regurgitated attempt at insults that you’ve read from whatever worthless subreddit for the sad, nihilistic stains of excrement on the hospital gown of a newly-dead elderly.

            You call me miserable, but the irony is you continue to fall for my provocations, something I enjoy. I’m using you for my personal entertainment, and whether you know it or not, you follow along.

            See, the thing is, calling someone a miserable fuck only works when they actually are a miserable fuck. So your words mean nothing to me, partly because I’m fairly content with things though with some grievances, and partly because I see you as essentially no better than cum-soaked sock rotting in a dumpster behind some fast-food chain, say, KFC. A squiggling child born dumb and underdeveloped who’s best option would be to crawl back into the anus from which you were birthed and suffocate.

            So, why don’t you get your hand off your blistered, flaccid dick, place your fingers back onto your keyboard, and try again, child.

            Or you can just back off, and I’ll simply forget you ever exist, since you’re neither worth remembering nor memorable enough anyhow, and gravitate towards someone other poor fool. Either way, you’ll just be doing what I want in the end, only to be forgotten, much like I imagine your end as you shuffle off this mortal coil: forgotten.

          • Winsday

            You wrote all of that for me?

            Shame I’m not reading it. Good to see you’re my bitch now, though. You have nothing better. Reply again like a good boy. Longer than last time.

          • Wolfie

            Nope! Good bye! I get the last laugh, child.

          • Winsday

            Good boy. Now again.

          • TimKovich

            I can’t see what you were responding to, so I can’t appreciate the stupidity. Curses.

          • Wolfie

            I don’t really remember myself or how it started. Something something they were being a dick. So I was a dick back. They insulted me. I told them to try again. They tried again, and I told them they still weren’t good enough.

            So then they told me to put my money where my mouth is, which I did and how they were playing right into my hand, then he was like “now do it again,” and I ended it with what I said above. Cause “I get the last laugh.”

          • XionEternum

            You have learned well young grasshopper. 😉

          • Guest

            I don’t know… I think it reads even better, given the oxygen thief he was arguing with lost so badly, he took his bat home and deleted his posts.

          • TimKovich

            I guess, but I need the DEETS!

          • treos

            wow, i’d be kinda impressed if i ever got such a long winded rant for a reply to one of my disqus comments. fortunately (or unfortunately depending on how you look at it) i try to never say things bad enough to warrant such a reply.

          • Wolfie

            Oh no, it’s fortunately, because you don’t want to be like me. This is a case of don’t do what I do, because I know what I do isn’t good.

      • Leo Rage

        I’ve been playing this game, and as someone who wants three basic criteria out of my game: for it to be fun, for it to not discipline the player into not having fun, and when it has an open-world for it to be a place I want to explore and enjoy, I must say this game is not as good as everyone is convincing Themselves. If moment to moment I have to question why I’m playing a game I’m not immersed in or am not enjoying, then there’s something horribly wrong. Why Jim is the only one willing to acknowledge/ notice the flaws who knows, but we should praise reviewers for their differeing opinions, especially in this case where most of his points are totally valid. Time will show years from now exactly what BoTW is, and Jim will finally be vindicated.

        • Christopher Taylor

          Naw, its good. Playing vid games for 30 years now, if I who have played thousands can play a game for 12 hours straight and lose complete track of time to look up and go “damn, is the sun up?” Then the game is clearly 9 out of 10 or higher. Anyone who bitches about particular realisms or is hyper casual to cry about mechanics that balances the game or make things more realistic and or challenging, needs to git gud. Or stop being a millennial. Either works. I played both horizon and this, and I see issues on both ends, and Horizon clearly has worse and should be rated lower, also true gamers do not take graphics into account, they are just a added benefit, otherwise games like undertale wouldnt be such a cult hit. Nuff said.

    • Braden Gunn

      How so? It’s well formatted and brings up some good points, he’s just not as taken with the game as everyone else, it happens from time to time.

    • Batora

      The review is fine. Read it and you’ll find a lot of high praise for the game.
      What does not add up at all is the final score if you put it against what was written.

      • Sekhat Temporus

        if you take the actual 0-10, as its supposed to be looked at, as 0 – horse shit, 5 – average (it can be enjoyed, but has annoying flaws), 10 – Perfection, fun and no flaws, everyone ever will love this. Then 7/10 is “Hey this is pretty good, check it out, not perfect, but still pretty good.”

        • Guest

          Yes, but unfortunately the poor muggles don’t understand a linear scale, and therefore anything getting less than 9/10 is worthless.

        • DreikoRokun

          From 4.9 to below, it’s shit, terrible in every way, 5 is mediocre, a rent at best and if you are bored or just want to try it out just cause, 6 is average, it have something good going for it and some few fun moments from time to time, but there are better stuff out there, 7 it’s a good game, it have flaws but the overall experience it’s still enjoyable, 8 it’s actually the “pretty good” score, a game that have many good things, flaws are quite minimal and overall great experience, 9 its a fantastic game, from beginning to end it’s an enjoyable experience, barely any noticeable flaws, almost non existence, 10 it’s the best experience, a game that’s so good, that the flaws it have (no game is perfect) are so insignificant to the overall experience, it feels like there aren’t any flaws at all.

          That’s how i personally see it.

    • Nick Young

      WAAHHHH This game I like is getting a less than perfect review. Get over yourself

  • Thanks for this Jim.

    Despite the niggling worry that all the things you pick up on would ruin the game for me, the constant raving by so many critics almost had me buying a Switch and game I can’t afford.

    This review was like a bucket of ice cold reality in my face by a man in a uniform shouting “NO! DON’T BE SO FUCKING STUPID!”

    Sounds like a decent game with a load of shit that would annoy the fuck out me.

  • Casey Post GDC

    Hey, Jim. Great article, very meaty and rather in depth coverage. Comment and question: The starting sentence: “I cannot recommend finding as many ‘hearty’ foods as you can.” is betrayed by the pro-hearty foods context. Also “extricable” might be better to end in an “ly” instead of an “e” for flow. Just trying to be helpful. Question: What are your thoughts on the hardware in general, now that you’ve logged some serious hours on it, and what is its performance like in one of the first big non-mini game titles for the platform?

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      wrong

  • cowboyjimmy

    IMHO there hast been a really bad zelda game yet( not counting the CD-i ones but hey, even those are hilarious in their own way looking back at them) all of them are special and unique in their own way.

  • Fartman420

    This is the same guy who gave WSC Real 11: World Snooker Championship a 7/10, so this guy is saying that WSC Real 11: World Snooker Championship is as good as Breath of the Wild. Yeah right. I know which game I’d rather play, and it ain’t a game where you pot balls with a stick that’s for sure.

    • William Jones

      So you’d rather play the snooker game? Each to their own I guess

    • Xirbtt

      This is why I hate scores. XD

      Different genres. Different strokes.

    • Wolfie

      You’re really obsessed with this, aren’t you?

      Look, son. We all want him too. But if we don’t get none of that sweet ass, you don’t get none either. Being an insufferable bitch ain’t going to get that corn-based cock in your ass any faster.

    • Braden Gunn

      You’d almost think different people had different opinions, personally I’d prefer WSC, nothing against Zelda, just not my cup of tea

  • Mateusz Zdanowicz

    I’m 15 hours in and I don’t feel forced to do anything. On the contrary – lack of icons telling me what to do is a nice thing. I can just ignore side quests if I don’t like them, cause there’s no XP to gain (or lost by NOT doing side things).

    I don’t think this game is 10/10, but I also can’t understand some of your arguments. For example, the stamina one. Do you know you can eat while climbing? 😛 I always have 3-4 food pieces that regenerate stamina. And gathering required ingriedients isnt busywork, cause they are everywhere.

    What I don’t like about the game is weapon system. Worse weapon could break, OK, I would accept that. But why the hell my great, super nice looking steel sword is falling apart? Why my BOW is breaking? This gets really frustrating. Eventually you don’t use weapons you really like caus you’re “saving them” for later.

  • goodbyejojo

    why do people treat review scores like gospel?

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      let me guess, you’re an atheist?

      Idiot lmao

      • Fallen Prime

        Ah, ad hominem. My favorite way to be wrong.

        • LargeAndReadyToCharge

          ^ this dude straight making up words lmao

          im don’t speak chinese lmao amirite

          • Fallen Prime

            Oh, I LIKE you.

            Ad hominem is actually a very common logical fallacy where, in lieu of defending your argument with something pertaining to said argument, you opt instead for personal attacks on the partner’s character, possibly in an attempt to discredit them without actually supporting yourself.

            Also, it’s Latin. I tried directing the phrase directly to Chinese to express what it looks like when expressed with their alphabet, but Google’s translator doesn’t want to cooperate with me.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            I bet you feel so smart right now don’t you!

            Not smart enough to see the obvious, but smart nonetheless.

          • Fallen Prime

            See? You’re demonstrating the lesson I taught you by acting it out rather than actually making a point.

            Humoring trolls is my favorite pastime on this site. Please continue indulging me.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            Keep teaching me lessons, I love it.

          • Fallen Prime

            Certainly. Let me tell you about Mareanie.

            Mareanie (Pokedex #747) is a Poison/Water-type Pokemon introduced in Pokemon Sun and Moon, and it is an absolutely precious darling. It evolves into Toxapex at level 38 and can have a unique ability called Merciless, which allows it to ALWAYS score critical hits on a poisoned enemy.

            Catching one isn’t easy, though. It can only be found in two places in the game, and you have to exploit the new SOS battle system. You need to find a wild Corsola (which has a stupid-low chance of spawning at certain fishing holes, slightly bolstered if it’s rippling), and when that wild Corsola calls out for aid, it may summon a Mareanie. Since Mareanie’s primary diet is Corsola, it will attack the thing it was brought in to help, which is an awesome bit of world-building.

          • Fallen Prime

            Oh, and it looks like this. Hopefully it lets me post this, since linking to the picture didn’t go through. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ebc0b9d00a5397b13626b1f54714a51934cbc794b8c8124493a1d2d7b7e8d34c.png

          • Fallen Prime

            Where’d you go? I’m tryna learn ya some Pokeymans!

          • Bosch

            Amigo, absolutely nothing you’re saying is wrong, but you just got trolled. The only winning move is not to play.

          • Fallen Prime

            Dude, he couldn’t be less subtle if he capped his comment with “trololololololol”.

            But I’m having fun. Don’t take this away from me.

          • Bosch

            All right, all right. I’ll quit being a spoilsport. You do what makes you happy.

          • Sam Hamer

            Hic haec hoc.

      • Wolfie

        …what?

  • Mārcis Jēkabsons

    Jim says it’s a good game. Why are people losing their shit?

    • M Heut

      because zelda fanboys are horrible people who all think the game is perfect. the fact jim doesn’t agree with them means they go apeshit.

      edit: not all of them are horrible. a ton of them are though.

    • Because people are the very definition of spoiled and I didn’t like it ENUFF for them.

      • darksteel6

        Does this me an you’re going to do a JQ tomorrow on people who get butthurt over you not liking a game as much they did? Pretty please!

  • LargeAndReadyToCharge

    Hey, Jim. Great Jim. Great article, very meaty and rather in depth coverage. Comment and question: The starting sentence: “I cannot recommend thoughts on the hardware in general, now that you’ve logged some serious hours on it finding as many ‘hearty’ foods as you can.” is betrayed by the pro-hearty very meaty foods context. Also “extricable” might be better to end in an “hardware in general” instead of an “e” for flow. Just trying to be helpful. Question: What are your thoughts on the very meaty hardware in general, now that you’ve logged some serious hours on it, and what is its performance like now that you’ve logged some serious hours on it finding as many ‘hearty’ foods as you can. one of the first big non-mini game titles for the platform?

  • Fartman420

    This is the same ‘bloke’ who gave ‘The Smurfs – Christmas Album’ 6/10,
    are you saying that this man, Jim Sterling is ‘correct’ for saying that
    Breath of the Wild by Nintendo is only 1 score better. I’ll tell ya
    which album I’d rather listen to than the smurfs christmas
    album…..Sesame Street, Platinum All Time Favourites. That’s what!!!!

  • Jon

    This review was entirely predictable. Equally predictable was the reaction from idiots praising you for “telling it like it is.” Your shtick is getting old, but at least a few fools still enjoy it.

    The reality is that history will show the critics praising the game to be correct on this one and BotW will still be thought of as a classic decades from now. This isn’t just the best Zelda game. It is the best game Nintendo has ever made.

    • Wolfie

      Equally predictable are comments like this one here.

      But, I’m going to wager this one is a legitimate troll, what with “best game Nintendo has ever made.” That’s the kind of language a troll would use.

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        I’ve heard that statement many times from people who have played the game though.

        Emphasis on >people who have played the game<.

        • Wolfie

          Well, good for them, then. I’m glad they love it so much.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            No you’re not. It gets under your skin. That’s why you’re being such a lil bitch on the comments over here.

          • Wolfie

            Nope. I’m being a lil bitch cause I enjoy being a lil bitch. If they love the game, great. If they come here to be little shitbricks, I’ll treat them as such.

            Notice how I say nothing to those who are like “I like the game, and while I don’t entirely agree (or disagree), I think this was a fair review.”

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            Right on, take my upvote. I can respect that. haHAA

    • JohnnyBravoo

      It’s the same thing with what happens when people give Naughty Dog games reviews less than 9. It causes a shitstorm.

      Just ask yourself, did you enjoy it? Then what is Jim’s view to you?

    • Leo Rage

      I give it a year before people realize how mediocre this Zelda is. I’d rather get fillings than have to start a new game in breath of the wild and meander through its barren and boring world.

  • Defron

    7/10? Probably attempt to seek clickbaits? Fat fuck.

    • Fallen Prime

      Clickbait on a site that earns no revenue and has no way of viewing site hits?

      Yup. Seems legit.

      • Defron

        You peeps are really dumb.

        • Fallen Prime

          Says the guy making unsubstantiated claims about Jim’s reason for giving a good score to a game you wanted a great score for.

          That’s called appeal to motive, by the way. I’m relearning a lot of logical fallacies today. Quite similar to ad hominem, but I think it’s more specific?

    • Wolfie

      And yet here you are. Who’s the greater fool, the con or the one who falls for the con?

      Never mind all this is entirely Patreon-funded and has no ads. Thus clickbait is pointless.

    • Leo Rage

      Do you see any ads? How does getting a bunch of clicks help him at all?

  • Jag Gentlemann

    I’m liking the game and I agree with most things you said. Two things, though:
    -The cutscenes of shrines can be skiped. Still annoying but not that bad.
    -I wouldn’t compare this game’s towers with the Ubisoft ones. This towers dosens’t fill the minimap with icons for borings sidequests.

  • JohnnyBravoo

    Before people go triggered nintendo fanboys, remember that Last of Us’s polygon’s review doesn’t count right?

    So of course this is to be expected when a game gets a lot of critical acclaim yet there’s always one that gives it less than 8.

    Anyways great review Jim. I don’t necessarily agree with everything you are saying, I can understand why certain things can annoy others but I just had too much fun for it to bother me.

    • David

      Polygon have taken money from Microsoft. We have that on record.

      Jim is Jim, and how dare you imply corruption.

  • ThirdMan

    7/10? Whaaat? But it’s the best garme ever made. It’s from Nintendo for God’s sake. How dare you, Jim?

  • Dr. Chaotix

    Wow. People really do lose their shit when you say it’s just a “Good” game. Go figure.

  • Duex

    Maybe you should’ve pirated this completely average game then.

    Fuck off with your Nintendo vendetta

    • Wolfie

      I believe the only response I have for this one is… “rolls eyes.”

    • Giant Sloar

      Nintendo deserves it, they always forget Metroid’s birthday.

  • LargeAndReadyToCharge

    So many people here should be child labourers in the salt miles of chile.

    Idiots, ITS NOT A GOOD GAME, GET OVER IT.

    • Gorantharon

      “7/10

      Good”

      Um, he might cite a lot of flaws, but he literally calls it a good game.

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        Good game just like Berserk (6.5/10) or Watch Dogs 2 (even higher)

    • Xirbtt

      He says its a good game. What did you call people? Idiots? Hmm

      • Fallen Prime

        This is a troll who’s been arguing AGAINST people who weren’t wide-eyed over the game.

        I can see you’re trying to keep civil while defending the game, which I appreciate.

        • Xirbtt

          Oh, I won’t reply to him again then.

  • FieldMedic

    “Truly, I wish I could say I understood what all the critics were raving about in their onslaught of 10/10 reviews, but I don’t”. Thank you Jim, I’ve been saying this since the game launched. It baffles me where ‘master piece’ type praise is coming from.

    • Xirbtt

      Maybe play the game and find out instead of looking for someone who agrees with your preconceived notions?

  • JohnnyBravoo

    Have to correct you with one thing you claimed that’s completely false.

    When Link does the “wtf where’s my weapon” animation, you hold right on the dpad to have the weapon selection. Works with bows too.

  • Earthjolly

    Here come the man babies, run for the hills, hide your lollipops!

  • Leo Rage

    I’ve been feeling the exact same about this game for the last few days, trying tirelessly to find what everyone else found so damn amazing about it. All I’ll say is thank you for being the one person honest and righteous enough to tell it how it is.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      Exactly! You cracked it!

      You didn’t play the game, but the ‘knack’ you had for it was totally right since one reviewer out of 200 agrees.

      WRONG.

      • Leo Rage

        Did you read my comment? I’ve been feeling this way BECAUSE I have been playing it, sorry I didn’t explicitly say that, but I’m 25 hours in, and I have to say as someone who knows how to keep their expectations tempered and not delude themselves, Jim’s points are totally valid and accurate. So you can FUCK OFF, you played yourself.

        • TimKovich

          I’m pretty sure he’s a troll, but good response.

  • Fartman420

    Jim Sterling, I’ve got dirt on you buddy. Looking through some records I see that in 1998, you stole a kids bike and farted on his face and you THINK you have the right to give Legend of Selda 7 Jim Sterlings out of 10. How very….VERY dare you.

    • Wolfie

      Wait a minute, hold the fuck up.

      Were you… were you that kid? Hence the name?

      • Bosch

        It changed him.

        • Bert Schnalz

          Now the time for his revenge has come…

        • Springheeljack

          Maybe he is just the vengeful ghost of Howard Stern’s failed dream that somehow found it’s way on this site.

  • Göran Isacson

    What I dislike so far in the game: the frame rate drops, the way the controls have you use ALL OF THE BUTTONS and my massive spider fingers keep slipping between throwing weapons or aiming bows, and aiming runes or bringing up the shields, and any puzzles that involve guiding the balls by gyro-controller. Whoever made them needs to calm down a little and ask themselves why they hate their customers.

    Still, out of those things I am the least fond of how all the things you have to keep track of in combat feels so very overwhelming at first. It doesn’t help that the quick menu for switching gear practically forces you to move your left thumb away from the left stick (also obligatory complaint of the times when the left joy-con craps out why oh why did I not buy a pro controller..) and bring it down to the weapon-change button… or shield-change button. Or my stick-fingers slip and I whistle for the horse. Essentially I am made to stand still and hope the enemy doesn’t waste me yet again because that’s always fun, or pause the game and go into the inventory. But whoops- I hit minus for the map instead of plus for inventory! Or I hit plus but then I hit the R-button instead of the right stick and now I have to go back and scroll through the menues and why IS the adventure log in the plus-button menu instead of the minus-button menu where it could be naturally connected to the map section and did I forget that I can’t reach the save screen from the minus-button and why did I hit minus to exit menu AGAIN instead of plus to change menues WHY ARE THERE SO MANY BUTTONS ARRGGGHH.

    In short- I am most definitely not loving how this game have so many new systems that feel like they were just crammed into the controller wherever there was room for them, because keeping them all separate in the heat of battle is a PAIN.

    What I didn’t even know I disliked until it was pointed out: how the poor draw distance makes spotting things from a distance meaningless since you DON’T see what you’re up against until you’re closer than you’d like to be, and how hard enemies hit. Like, I frequently stock up on fairies but I am still losing so much health in even just random skellington-encounters it just makes me think I’m just not at the right health-level/equipment level for this part yet, but you’re saying it continues like this? It just goes on forever regardless of hearts and armor? I am just gonna have to hunker down and learn that Perfect Dodge trick or forever get massive healthloss unless I’m carrying around a whole freaking orchard in my pockets (which again, I am, but I can see that getting frustrating for non-hoarders)? I get they wanted to change things up from Skyward Sword since I wasjyst never in any danger in that game, but there must surely be better ways.

    What I don’t mind at all: stamina and climbing and shrines. Like… I don’t know what to say y’all because I have NEVER beensurprised by rain while climbing. Never. Not once. I must have played for over thirty hours, have Master sword and two beasts down. Never gotten surprised by sudden rain. I scaled Dueling Peaks. Climbed Satori Mountain, Gerudo Highlands, traipsed around Lanayru. No rain. I don’t know, maybe Hylia just loves me like that, but I don’t feel like I can engage with this complaint because it just hasn’t ever felt relevant to me. I’vd certainly been hindered by rain in Zora’s Domain and the Thunder Plains, but it’s all part of the puzzle there, I can work around it. In all other times the stamina meter works for me as it certainly was intended: a way to prevent you from breaking the game by climbing everywhere and just circumventing puzzles UNLESS you’ve put the hard work into earning those circumventing arms. Eat my entire ass, Akalla maze, as I don’t even bother with you. As for shrines, I do get that it feels a bit weird to have Nintendo keep doubling down on this “the ancients just used really advanced technology, not magic” that Skyward Sword started, Hyrule is still High Fantasy to me dagnabbit, and the Sheikah being explicitly coded as Japanese and ultramighty with superior tech feels a bit… I dunno, cringe-y? But interspersing this wide open world with little puzzles dotted here and there instead of incorporating them into bigger dungeons work, I feel, in terms of letting the wider land of Hyrule bd largely uninterrupted by big temples that are essentially the “end-goal” of that particular area. It feels like a way to have neat puzzles without making it all about temples, and keeping Hyrule as this big, wide expanse for you to climb and explore. The beasts are dungeons that, so far, don’t feel too big or convoluted. The world isn’t just a big old obstacle course on the way to dungeons as in Skyward Sword. I am cool with the puzzle shrines not really being baked into the game world as smoothly as they hypothetically could have been when what I got still feels pretty darn cohesive.

    That being said, I have never played Assassin’s Creed, or Far Cry or any game featuring the “Ubi towers” before. I won’t say I’m LOVING all of them, there’s a fair few where the solution feels less like you’re a smart or skilled player who can outwit the surrounding enemy hordes or intricately designed environments leading up to the tower and more like dull busy-work until you can make the climb-

    (sidenote: and am I the only one who feels like the game is WAY too finicky when it comes to activating the “climb down”-prompt, going up to the edge doesn’t do it so you have to fart around some distance away from the edge until it finally pops up and just HOPE the Joycon lets you do this without crapping out and sending you plummeting into the abyss)

    -but I’m not exactly hating on them. I think they work in the context of the game and I am decently entertained by going up to a high place and looking at the majestic view and feel rewarded when the worldmap fills in and reveal to me its secrets. Is this one of those “you will be”-things that works the first time you play a game like this, but the more it happens in game after game the less charming it becomes?

    Also: I have yet to really start using ingredients to make elixirs because I so seldomly run into a situation where I KNOW what I will need in advance. I will just be minding my own business and wandering and climbing when whoops, too hot or too cold! Traversing this wild landscape is my main draw and I guess I COULD just make a bunch of stuff in advance for every occassion, but what if I run into someone that might want this particular random thing for a sidequest? I’m saying that Link should have the ability to cook things on the go somehow, I dunno, make the Sheikah Sensor a portable microwave or whatever, not like it breaks lore any more than it’s already been, and make cooking pots give us a longer lasting effect- at least give me the ability to adapt to situations as they happen to me, rather than lock cooking to one place only. Maybe then I’d use it more since right now I am just not a mixing kind of guy.

    Still figuring out what I think about weapon durability though. I thought I’d hate it and there are weapons I’d like to keep and all, but… so far I’m not really suffering that much? I guess it’s kinda like with me and climbing- I have yet to end up in a situation where the mechanic really screws me over so I don’t really have any strong opinions on it. Most of the time I’m throwing weapons away because I keep amassing way too many of them- which doesn’t feel like it’s the complaint Jim’s making. Maybe when I beat the game, I’ll figure out how I feel about it.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      nice try but you’re wrong

  • M Heut

    I can only immagine our #1 boglin boy (thank god for him) loves reading all of these comments with a huge bag of popcorn on his desk.

    • TimKovich

      Nah, he stopped reading a while ago.

  • 09philj

    Zelda game is haphazardly assembled and with central mechanics that are both brilliant and shit?

    And what is the pope’s religion these days?

    • Loona Chan

      I think he’s experimenting with Kabbalah.

  • Moonman

    People still care about Zelda? Just when you thought Sonic fans were bad.

    • M Heut

      caring about zelda isnt bad IMO. going apeshit because someone didn’t give it a 10/10 is just toxic.

  • dam4rus

    Well, even though i don’t think Jim is REALLY that anti Nintendo i find some things funny about this review.

    First: frame rate matters in a Nintendo game, but not in Fallout 4. Fallout 4 played at around 20 FPS constantly indoors on the PS4 and it was a technical nightmare of a game. Zelda barely drops to 20 for a few seconds and it’s suddenly worth mentioning. Not to mention, Zelda has around 10 seconds of load time and then you don’t encounter any, until you enter a shrine.
    Second, durability is annoying in this game? Souls games has a way worse stamina system. Yes Jim, you can probably run for a lengthier time than Link, but i would also bet you can swing a sword more than twice before having to take a rest for 5 seconds. Not to mention that stamina never gets in the way of combat, only exploration and it’s really not that big of a deal. If you want to travel faster, use a horse. As for climbing, i found 2 stamina upgrades more than enough. Especially if you use stamina elixirs.

    Anyway, i tend to not to take your review scores seriously. I mean, you gave Fallout 4 a 9.5. That game is total shite. I’m just “here for the lulz”.

    PS: Sorry for my bad english.

  • MASONTALE

    There’s some sort of bug with this part of the website. Everytime I visit it, I can hear a sound file of a million infants crying at once. Might wanna look into that.

  • Fartman420

    This is the last comment I’ll ever post on this god forsaken ‘Website’. My Father, Is an FBI Agent, type guy and he has just given me 20 years of dirt on you Mr. ‘Jim’ Sterling. Flicking through some paperwork just now actually and I see that in 1995 you somersaulted into a childrens play pen, landing in the splits and ripped, according to the paperwork, the hugest and biggest fart in the state of pencil vania. AND you think you have the RIGHT to call Legde End of Selda 7 hash browns out of 10???? I think not. The game is at least a 13 out of 10 and don’t bloody “AT” me as the millennials say.

    • Wolfie

      Welp, I must admit. This went from another shitty poster with an obsession to… whatever madness this whole thing is.

      I concede.

    • PedroBoh Wege

      >pencil vania
      Godamn, this was the best comment until now, only 700 more to read.

  • VD Entertaiment

    Fallout 4 9/10
    FFXV 8/10
    Dead Rising 3 9/10

    Breath of the Wild 7/10 ok Jim whatever you say…

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      Nostalgia ✔
      BUH ITS HIS OPINION ✔
      Rose tilted glasses ✔
      Stamina WTF ✔
      BUT WHY IS RAIN WET ✔
      10/10? PLEASE ✔
      Zelda lmao people so salty ✔
      7/10 ✔

    • Paul Barnes

      I cannot fathom that Fallout 4 review either. Seems like Jim really enjoyed his cannibal psychopath role-play far too much which seemed to obfuscate the glaring flaws the game has. More power to him really, I wish I enjoyed Bethesda’s Fallout games like that.

      • Loona Chan

        Yeah it allowed him to roleplay something he wanted to roleplay and apparently that makes roleplaying games more fun idunno.

      • darksteel6

        I think Fallout 4 is really that good, aside from the not so good ending.

  • ramy Sorour

    and the game has already gone down to 97 on Metacritic thanks to your review……..

    • Wolfie

      Oh dear. The humanity. The devastation. This is what happens in Trump’s America.

    • bigmanoncampus

      Slant Mag also gave it a 60.

    • Fallen Prime

      Why people hold so much regard for Metacritic is beyond me.

    • TimKovich

      Oh, no. Only 97? ONLY 97!? THE HUMANITY!

  • LargeAndReadyToCharge

    People actually still play single player linear experiences from over 20 years ago LMAO.

    Get real and get with it. Online gaming is where its at if I can’t do 100 sidequests in 10 sq metres of game world then it’s barely even a game.

    Give me a Korean MMO over this trash any day, stamina bar? No thank you. I wanna be able to access every aspect without any restriction or game mechanic.

    • Eon264

      … I’m not sure if this is sarcasm or not.

  • David

    “too much repetitive busywork and full-on dick moves for me to say this is even close to my favorite Zelda game, much less in the top five.”

    Uh, Jim, that’s not how that phrase works. For something to be much less, it needs to be less applicable to the statement. So the game would be more likely to be in your top 5 instead of your number one, so it’d be much less your favorite one of all time.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      I give this review a 7/10 based on the quality of grammar on display.

  • MisterShake2099

    So many of the complaints levied in this article are exactly what make this the first 3D Zelda I’ve enjoyed.
    Shame, though, this may be the first disagreement I’ve ever had with a licensed Jimquisition review.

  • LargeAndReadyToCharge

    Don’t know about you guys but I feed off the reactions of these devoted fans. There’s nothing I love more than seeing a popular game get a review it doesn’t deserve, so I can suck the blood from the unsuspecting fans as I watch them helplessly try to defend their beloved treasure. HAHA WORMS, SQUIRM FOR ME.
    7/10 – Jim Sterling ✔

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      imagine seeing THAT on the back of the game case

    • 09philj

      How small is your penis that you can only derive pleasure from bullying people? Why not, say, play a video game?

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        this old-timey smart ass vibe you’ve got going on doesn’t bode well with me

        • 09philj

          You wouldn’t understand dear, it’s called wit.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            twit*

  • TheBLD

    I strongly disagree with this review in most respects.

    I’ll agree with you on rain, first of all. Fuck rain. There are a lot of cool mechanics regarding rain – lightning, and how literally everybody in the game seems to have unique lines for rain. But how it impacts the climbing, and how there are no armor sets that provide any sort of anti-slip, really sucks.

    But the other parts, I disagree with. Enemies do a lot of damage at first, but it’s an oversimplification to say “that’s all they did to copy Dark Souls”. Most individual enemies have basic enough attack patterns, but their high damage becomes a bigger factor since they come in groups, and unlike past Zelda games, they don’t play fair and wait their turn to have a swing at you.

    Armor upgrades would be pointless, too, if enemies didn’t do so much damage. Zelda is not a “hard” game like Dark Souls, but it is a game very much about that old-school sense of progression. It’s about feeling stronger.

    Breakable weapons – I do wish a new one was automatically equipped, but it takes literally a second to press right on the d-pad and swap to a new weapon. Enemies always drop weapons appropriate for beating enemies of their level, too, so I don’t understand the complaint about getting “low level clubs” thoughout the game.

    Stamina, again I disagree with the complaints. If you want to move faster, you need a horse. There’s gear for swimming and climbing faster. Perhaps they could’ve gotten away with making the stamina portions a bit more generous, but as it is Stamina serves as a key gameplay mechanic, and increasing it as drastically as you suggest would simply ruin other aspects of the game balanced around it.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      wrong

      • Eon264

        Okay, you think he’s wrong… why? Personally I agree with him for the most part. I feel like Stamina could have probably been reworked to be much more forgiving and less of a hassle if they also changed how you upgrade it but other than that I share his opinion, so why are we both wrong?

        • TheBLD

          Just below me, “LargeAndReadyToCharge” has commented saying:

          “Don’t know about you guys but I feed off the reactions of these devoted fans. There’s nothing I love more than seeing a popular game get a review it doesn’t deserve, so I can suck the blood from the unsuspecting fans as I watch them helplessly try to defend their beloved treasure. HAHA WORMS, SQUIRM FOR ME.”

          Needless to say, I’m not going to stay up at night concerned about their opinion.

          • Eon264

            Yeah, fair enough, “don’t feed the troll” and all. That said, if he wanted an easy meal (apparently of blood? Odd.) he could have targeted someone who was actually being salty. Either way, I’m curious about what he’s hoping to accomplish here.

    • Wolfie

      See, this is how you give a response when you disagree.

      Good for you!

    • TimKovich

      I haven’t played the game, so I can’t agree or disagree, but thank you for being civil in your disagreement.

    • darksteel6

      Stamina is never fun in any game, it’s just aggravating.

      • TheBLD

        It’d be a lot less fun, IMO, if you could just climb anything trivially. So what, you climbed a big mountain, but there’s no stamina gauge in the game so it’s just a matter of mashing B to jump up vertical surfaces for a few minutes. So what, you para-glided off to a distant island, anybody can do that by pressing B in mid-air and then AFKing to go get a drink or something. And you don’t even need to para-glide there, because without stamina you could just swim infinitely too, which eliminates the need to locate a good spot to glide from in the first place.

        • darksteel6

          I disagree, I would find that very fun.

        • Artemiy

          I see your point but I think just slapping stamina bar on top of it is a bit… Cheap. You can try implementing wind/water currents so you have to navigate precisely around them, make the waters to deep or dangerous…
          Heck, from Laura’s game footage it looks like Link has hardly more swimming capabilities than me, a lazy fat guy who codes and plays video games all day.

  • Eric Matthews

    You should not be allowed to review games anymore. You brought into this game tons of baggage from previous games that you played and said…see it sucks. But never once did you let go of that baggage to realize the 5 other easier ways you had to complete ANY task. I feel so sorry for you. Something truly new came along and you just couldn’t overcome you own ego.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      he rushed the game, he wanted the review out earlier but he couldn’t manage it.

      To get a bit of recognition on it he gave it a surprising score as if to say ‘HEY GUYS LOOK I REVIEWED IT TOO’.

    • Loona Chan

      Sorry, an open-world game with survival crafting elements with 7 different meters is not something “truly new”. There’s literally been 20 of them released on Steam Greenlight in the last day.

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        and they’re all even remotely as good as Zelda?

        being a tiny tiny bit dishonest here

        • Loona Chan

          Execution may be way better. But concept is not “truly new”.

          • Travis Touchdown

            Zelda’s take on open world gameplay is a vast improvement over what other games have done. There are actual things to do in this open world.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            watch the GDC talk about the game, they put incredible amounts of effort into this world, not just into the assets but the physics and what they call the ‘chemistry’ of the game engine. real interesting stuff.

          • Loona Chan

            Doesn’t change the fact that they’re blatantly copying other game’s formulas. Cooking and crafting are not new. Every 5 year old who has played Minecraft has done it.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            all video games are copies of ‘video games’ so they’re all trash and we should stop.

          • CX316

            No, but fuckwits probably shouldn’t be screaming “Something truly new came along” when the game’s core concept is a mash up of an old IP with a greatest-hits of what is in modern open world games.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            they’re not even remotely similar.

    • Travis Touchdown

      He shouldn’t be allowed to review games because he has a financial incentive to downplay everything Nintendo does.

      Seeing him continue act as if cult classics like, say, Kid Icarus Uprising were bad games is laughable.

      • Fallen Prime

        Wait, what financial incentive?

        He LIKES Nintendo games, and their popularity doesn’t affect how he regards them. Look at his review for Splatoon; he gave it a solid 8 and spent a lot of time playing it and giving it lip service as a good example and counterpoint to other multiplayer games’ shortcomings.

        But you can’t look at their business practices and tell me Nintendo can’t be criticized.

        • Travis Touchdown

          Nintendo is stopping people from streaming their content online to protect their branding.

          • Fallen Prime

            Not even the ones that came to mind when I said that. I was more referring to the manufactured scarcity of the NES Classic. Some of their amiibo, sure, you can make an argument that they’re collector’s items despite their gameplay functionality. But for Christ’s sake, they did NOT have to try the low-supply-high-demand tactic with the NES. Shitloads – LITERAL shitloads – of people wanted it, and they straight-up DID NOT MAKE ENOUGH.

            Also, what financial incentive?

          • CX316

            That’s not how that works. Look at Ubisoft, they spend a shit-ton of money to PAY streamers to stream their games because it’s ADVERTISING. Finding streamers with a solid audience and either paying them, or asking them, to play your game before release to show it off to their audience, post lets-plays, first impression videos, etc etc etc brings in more sales.

            Trying to steal the ad revenue off every video that uses even a tiny clip from one of your IPs within fair use policy, that’s just a dick move.

      • darksteel6

        oh fuck off moron, he’s given positive reviews to Nintendo games plenty of times before and no has no financial incentive since he gets no money from people reading his reviews.

  • Casper Van Ginhoven

    Dishonest he is not, a contrarian perhaps, he’s a wildcard for sure.

    • TotallyAnIdiot

      This is why I love Jim Sterling.

      He truly is a wildcard and that is why we love him.

      Also this might be the day I will sign up for his patreon.

  • Geralt De Rivia

    What I hate is that during the slow motion attack if your weapon breaks then the attack ends… you end up in front of the monster without a weapon and with your guard down. That’s terrible because they attack you and sometimes take up to 5 or more hearts (centileon??). Also, the amount of seeds that you need to exchange in order to get more space for weapons is RIDICULOUS! right now I need 35+ seeds to get more space and finding those kororoksobsfoj is hard. Anyway, the game is fun and I am enjoying it… but it has issues (easy main dungeons, disappointing)

  • Metroid-Dark-Echoes

    Clearly give Zelda BotW 710 to get clicks on the shoddy website.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      No ads on the site THO SO UR 100% WRONG ✔

      srs tho he definitely values his own ego over money.

    • Travis Touchdown

      Actually I imagine he’s trying to punish Nintendo for actually having the guts to take on YouTubers who want to make money off of their content.

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        valiant cause or not its still shitty and dishonest

      • Loona Chan

        ohh boy we got a live one

      • Marky360

        Oh shots fired

      • Tyler Szabo

        Oh, you’re one of those…

      • Wolfie

        Oh just blow it out your ass. Not even going to humor this one.

      • CX316

        How do you even operate a keyboard with that level of brain damage?

        Nintendo’s approach to youtube is the dumbest shit in the pile of dumb shit that company has done in the last several years.

    • Ian

      To what end? And how the fuck did your comment get two likes in the time I’ve been typing this?

  • Tank207

    To anyone complaining about the score, in the end it’s only a number. If you enjoy the game regardless of what someone else’s criticisms are then just continue to enjoy it and move on with your life.

    • Travis Touchdown

      The score is lower than other, objectively inferior open world games like Horizon.

      People have a right to be annoyed.

      • Tyler Szabo

        Except review scores aren’t meant to be compared to each other. The review score is just a numerical summation of grievances versus enjoyment and is unique to each game. Just because one game gets a 7 and another an 8 doesn’t mean one is objectively better than another, it’s just the derived enjoyment of that game at the time of play. If you actually cared you would read the article and decide if those grievances would take away enough enjoyment that buying the game would be a net negative for the price. For me personally, I love linear experiences and absolutely hate open world so open world games are probably going to be instantly an 8-9 at the absolute most even if they’re extraordinary. It’s as if a review is all about the tastes of the reviewer…

        • Matrim

          That’s the thing people don’t seem to get.

          Additionally, I don’t get why people are upset about a game getting a 7 anyway. By Jim’s stated criteria a 7 is a good score.

          • Tyler Szabo

            7 is a good score, though I will admit if I was Jim’s editor, I would probably say without asking him his scored opinion that the text reads like an 8 to me. That’s one of the good things about “old media,” many times the writer doesn’t give the numerical score, but instead the editor who formulated the score after reading the review. However, that’s in a perfect world where business relationships aren’t a concern in the review process.

      • Tank207

        Not really no, it’s only one person grading a game based on their personal preferences. So what if he gave Horizon a higher score? Does it affect your life in any way that a game that has gotten perfect scores almost completely across the board got a lower but still decent number from one person?

        Like I said, it’s only a number and it really shouldn’t matter to you if you like the game regardless.

      • Hubert Crowl

        you’d have to have some serious autism to let a review on the internet bother you.

      • PedroBoh Wege

        Objective opinions, eh?

        • Travis Touchdown

          No, I mean Zelda has more content, has much more going on from the technical side of things (Greaet AI, great physics, great world to explore) Better mechanics, better everything really.

          • And yet despite that, people have the option to enjoy Horizon more than Zelda.

          • Idders

            Horizon looks way more varied and interesting. I’ll probably be getting that when I get paid next rather than having to invest in a new console.

      • Wolfie

        Sure. Doesn’t mean being a cocking little shit doesn’t make you any less of a cocking little shit because you’re “annoyed.”

        Don’t like the review? Why don’t you be a god damn adult and learn to deal with it. Of course, for people like you, I’m sure that’s impossible because you’re identity is so tied to whatever bandwagon you hop onto that to let it go would only demonstrate just how empty you really are.

        Because you’re “annoyed” he liked a game, but not as much as you did. Fucking christ, that is so god damn pathetic.

        • Travis Touchdown

          I am dealing with it. By explaining why you’re wrong.

          • Wolfie

            No, you’re not, in either capacity.

      • Strawb

        How is Horizon ‘objectively inferior’, exactly? Are the graphics worse? Does it run worse than BotW? Is the resolution lower? Are the controls clunky and awful?
        You liking BotW better than Horizon does not make Horizon ‘objectively inferior’. That’s just nonsense.

      • darksteel6

        you are a dumbass

      • Matrim

        Except that Horizon is better. But, whatevs

  • Matheus Switch🐶

    click bait

    • Strawb

      The site doesn’t have ads. He gains nothing from clickbaiting.

      • Matheus Switch🐶

        Gain attention

  • Travis Touchdown

    Someone is salty that Zelda is destroying your precious Horizon, both critically and commercially.

    But regardless, I think most people have already debunked a lot of your claims (Especially your nonsensical whining about weapon durability in a game that relies on it to prevent you from spamming your best weapons) as just being nitpicky.

    Breath of the Wild is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a 7.

    • Loona Chan

      If Zelda doesn’t destroy the completely new IP and franchise, it would be a huge embarrassment for Nintendo. And last I checked, BotW isn’t actually doing that much better than Horizon.

      • BramvE

        Embarrassingly enough if this game wouldn’t have the Zelda name taped on it, it would have been rated worse then horizon by any critic alive. Like come on technical issues, bad story, a ton of annoyances added to the gameplay. Compare that to a great story, technically excellent (never a noticable framedrop while having one of the best graphics to date) and unique fun combat of horizon, with the only downsides some of the sidequests. I just can’t see how anyone can objectively view this new zelda as a masterpiece..

        • darksteel6

          fanboy

          • BramvE

            Well ye i definitely am a fanboy of horizon, but that doesn’t take away that calling this zelda a 10/10 masterpiece despite all the issues it has is just wrong.

          • darksteel6

            Whoops my bad, I thought you were gushing over this game for a second.

    • 09philj

      All Zelda games are 6.5s to me, uniformly. They’re polished, but I find them really rather dull. The combat is fine, the puzzles are fine, the stories are fine, the art direction is always fine, the whole thing is always an aggregation of fine that I can only ever get 3/4s of the way through before getting bored.

      • Jason Luthor

        Great, you’re an outlier.

        • Idders

          Congratulations you have realized that tastes are subjective.

      • Rui

        I agree with you, I think NOSTALGIA has a lot to do with the success of Zelda.

      • darksteel6

        Same here, never quite got the appeal of that franchise.

    • Wolfie

      Really? Cause everywhere is reporting Horizon is outselling Zelda.

      Unless you have new numbers to back your claim up.

      • Travis Touchdown

        You really can’t trust numbers that Sony releases.

        • CX316

          But you can trust Nintendo?

        • darksteel6

          fanboy alert!

          • Travis Touchdown

            No, no. Just someone who’s been following along with Sony’s claims over the years.

          • darksteel6

            dumbass

        • Wolfie

          So you have no proof, and any proof to the contrary, cannot be trusted.

          This is a fallacy, and proves you are full of shit.

        • TimKovich

          Yeah, you can. Horizon costs 60 dollars. Zelda basically costs 300 dollars more than that. Which do you buy, lacking infinite money?

    • aranab

      LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF at the commercially part. Idiot.

    • Strawb

      A review is an opinion. You can’t ‘debunk’ an opinion, certainly not in this case.

      It’s also very ironic you call Jim salty, when you’re clearly salty about the score he gave it.

  • Many points you make which stack up to make what looks a 7 maybe 8 out of 10 game a 7. I’ve read many reviews wondering why so many such it’s dick so much when it really isnt a 10. Your review mentions much more than others do, which naturally bring the points down proving in some cases the zelda fanboys are only seeing what they want to see, in some cases. There’s always going to be slit opinions or majority on one side but this game isn’t better or brings anything greater to the table than what horizon does so why a better score? Also why do games get knocked for poor story content yet zeldas is the worst (save the princess) pretty much every time yet never knocked points. Annoys really the blatant bias towards it

  • Springheeljack

    It seems impossible to determine which negative comments are legitimate and which ones are just taking the piss.

    • Strawb

      Hanlon’s Razor.

  • MTC001

    There are always some people that have to spit into the rating soup of high profile games like Zelda, I am just wondering why this hasn’t happenend earlier. But it’s okay Jim, I know you need the clicks and the money because you’re doing this all on your own, don’t worry about the people complaining, we all know, deep in your heart, you love Breath of the Wild like everyone else 🙂

    • Jpkurihara

      Except he has no ads in his site. And earns money through Patreon. And scores like this tend to drive people away instead of giving him supporters.
      Good clickbait.

      • CX316

        Not to mention the costs associated with dealing with the inevitable asshats who will DDOS the site

      • MTC001

        Don’t worry, this already at 1000 comments-section will help him give more than enough inspiration for a new video at least and if you think this will drive people away then you’re wrong.

  • LargeAndReadyToCharge

    This is even worse than that time GameSpot gave TLOU an 8/10 and then changed it to a 9 because people realised how out of the loop you have to be to have such an opinion.

    • Destroyer

      go check what Polygon gave TLOU… I’ll wait…

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        Polygon

        • Destroyer

          Yeah, they’re awful, but it got worse reviews than the one mentioned.

    • TimKovich

      Opinions are opinions. You don’t “have to be” anything to have an opinion, because “have to” implies that there’s anything objective about opinions. Opinions are completely subjective.

  • Hubert Crowl

    NINTENDO AND SONIC FAN BOYS have one thing in common.
    Autism.

    And you’ve really triggered the autists with this review. Look at all these nintendo fanboys, screeching “REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE”

    Not surprised that the sperglords are demanding and rewarding 10/10s.

    • Hubert Crowl

      please, spare me the additional screeching.

      • Hubert Crowl

        spoiler alert : they didn’t.

    • 09philj

      Of course, you’re much better than them, because you insult the mentally ill.

      What a cunt.

      • Hubert Crowl

        Where’s the insult?
        I agree that autists are mentally ill.

        • Duff McWhalen

          You’re insulting the mentally ill by comparing them to Sonic and Nintendo fans.

          • Hubert Crowl

            lol sorry. but i think we both know that most sonic and nintendo die hards that are over the age of 14, have autism.

          • darksteel6

            no they don’t you ableist piece of shit.

        • 09philj

          You used autism as an insult you utter fuckwit.

          • Hubert Crowl

            we both know that most sonic and nintendo die hards that are over the age of 14, have autism. its not an insult. its factual.

          • 09philj

            You are a massive prick, you know that?

          • Hubert Crowl

            such a sensitive snowflake. do all facts make you melt this quickly, or just the ones related to videogames?

          • 09philj

            It’s not a fact though. It’s just your immense insecurities about how “adult” you are being projected onto people who, for better or worse, are unafraid to enjoy something bright and colourful.

            Basically, you’re a shithead.

          • Hubert Crowl

            And here i thought you had a problem with insults, but when they hit too close to home, that’s when you start screeching.

          • 09philj

            I’m perfectly at home with insults. I merely have a problem with slander. You’re so fucking dense light fucking bends around you.

          • galactix100

            Mate, just ignore the wee cunt. He’s clearly just desperate for attention.

          • Hubert Crowl

            he’s autistic. he can’t help it.

          • Stephen Mc Devitt

            That’s ableist. You can call Nintendo and Sonic fanatics as insane, cult-like, have no soul but mocking people with actual mental disabilities is a step too far.

          • Hubert Crowl

            lol thats some fucked up priority. christ, i never knew autists were in such demand of safe spaces.

          • Stephen Mc Devitt

            Wow! The lack of self-awareness and willingness to parrot trends never ceases to amaze me. Let me try… Donald Trump is a pedophile and anime is a mistake.

        • Giant Sloar

          You compared the people crying about the review score to Sonic fans, that’s just low.

          • Hubert Crowl

            to me, nintendo and sonic fans are two different sides of the same autistic bitcoin.

        • Philip Nickerson

          The insult is your implication that people with ASD aren’t capable of rational thought, not to mention that Autism isn’t even an illness; it’s a disability, which is a completely seperate thing.

          I know several great people with ASD who are smart as all hell and don’t get offended when someone doesn’t like something they like as much as they like it. Fuck you and your juvenile insults. I’ll bet you call things you don’t like “gay” too.

    • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

      The above post is classic Asperger Syndrome.

    • I’m not sure I understand. How does getting childishly angry over a review score correlate with autism?

      • Hubert Crowl

        When autists get upset, they have a childish temper tantrum.
        Google videos of it, and see. They hit themselves, and others. Even the wall.

        • Fallen Prime

          Hi. I have an autism-spectrum disorder. I’m still adulting in the face of all this.

          I mean, other than the one troll I’m counter-trolling. But that’s neither here nor there.

        • Right, but I’ve worked with children with autism. It was part of my Education program, practicum, and training. What you’re describing is a childish overreaction. It doesn’t automatically equate with autism. There are many more factors that go into such a diagnosis.

        • Philip Nickerson

          Fuck you dude. If that’s all you see with autism, I can only imagine your narrow view of the world and all the people in it.

    • darksteel6

      Hey now, don’t put all autistic people in the same basket. I have Aspergers(don’t give a damn what the DSM calls it, Autism Spectrum my ass) and I can’t fucking stand Nintendo fanboys.

  • Douglas Faria

    click bait

    • Loona Chan

      on the site without ads, lol.

      run along fanboy.

    • TimKovich

      It’s not click bait in my book unless the link to it gives fake information.

    • Rui

      Fucking sad. Learn to respect peoples opinion little shit.

    • darksteel6

      dumbass

  • taimou

    Jim you’re missing “Wii U” from the formats btw.

  • Fartman420

    I thought I was done with this flaming idiot the myans call “el dorably” aka ‘Jim Sterling’ but like I said before. My Daddy is an FBI agent, type of like…inspector gadget type guy who has access to a shitload of government files n shit and I found some dirty stuff that Jim’s been upto over the last 38 years. Jim, does pooping in a innocent defenceless 22 year old mans popcorn at the cinema while watching Herbie Fully Loaded ring any bells? You were incarcerated at pensylvania penitentiary for 6 years and befriended a heroin injecting freaking asshole while locked up. AND YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE CREDIBILITY TO GIVE The Legend of Mario – Master Sword edition 7 Dangleberries OUT OF 10?!?!?!

    • Fallen Prime

      Alright, you were annoying at first, but I think you just won the comment section.

      • Wolfie

        And it keeps going! What is this insanity?

      • galactix100

        Is this art? Is this what art looks like?

  • Austin

    Do you think the Zelda fanboys are aware that this isn’t IGN’s review system? A 7 is not a 2. A 7 is a 7, which means it’s a good game, not a steaming pile of My Dick shit.

  • Wow Jim, all this just to show that “you are different” from the others and you didn’t give it a positive review? it doesn’t matter tbh no one who enjoys a game like Zelda takes the words of a moron like you seriously, I hope you get sue again but this time you go to jail for it.

    • Moonman

      Why are you so mad at Jim? It’s not like he took away your welfare checks.

      • Well jokes on you I live in Iraq we don’t get welfare here, in other words you dad will be forced to eat your mom if he lived here

    • TimKovich

      You’re taking it seriously enough to get upset about it, mate.

    • That’s strange. 7/10 sounds positive to me. 70% is a decent passing grade in school.

      If he gave it anything less than 10/10, would you still be upset?

    • Tyler Szabo

      …you don’t go to jail for being sued in a civil suit in a Civil Court…

      • CX316

        shh, lets not shatter his illusions of how the world works. It’s not easy struggling through life with that personality.

      • He does look like a Serial killers, so he might go in for that

    • Wolfie

      So when did “good” start to mean “bad?”

      And does that mean that bad is good? Also, does this mean Ride to Hell: Retribution is the greatest fucking game ever made ever?

    • darksteel6

      You hope he goes to jail because he had the sheer audacity not to jizz all over the game like most other critics did? Fuck off fanboy.

    • Sperium3000

      You want him to go to jail because he liked a game, but not just as much as you did? It’s not even “You disliked this thing I like” it’s “You didn’t like it hard enough, TEN YEARS DUNGEON”

  • Potato

    Is this a typo?

    “Incidentally, I cannot recommend finding as many “hearty” foods as you can.” – seems like you’re not recommending it but then you do 🙂

    • ThEjOkErIsWiLd

      There’s a couple more problems with this review, he fucked up the link for “Sheikah Slate” and with “…because these “features” were inextricable built into almost all of it.” It should be *inextricably.

      Hire a goddamn proofreader already, Jim!

      • Artemiy

        He can’t, he spent his Patreon money on Boglins, pogs, betting pogs on Boglins, exotic dildos, exotic cheeses, Nintendo Switch, exotic butters and a Hatsune Miku costume.

  • Joseph Estrada

    So Jim would you say the game is worse than Uncharted 4? XD

    • [EDIT: Never mind. I’m a dope. Thanks, @Sperium3000. I completely blanked.]

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      • Sperium3000

        Dude, it’s a joke. Back when Jim reviewed Uncharted 4, people got on his case so he would say the next games are X/10 times better than Uncharted 4 or something like that.

        • Shit, sorry guys. I was completely unaware, dulled by a parade of cuntery. Meme on, folks. 🙂

  • Stephen Mc Devitt

    Hearing about these problems on Podquisition and DigitalFoundry, I don’t this could be the best Zelda but that doesn’t make it a bad Zelda. I’ll pick it up one day but too many games for PS4. Yakuza 0, NieR: Automata, Gravity Rush 2. Maybe for Xmas when Super Mario Odyssey comes out and if Trump hasn’t started a war yet (Since people are mad about Zelda not getting a perfect, I thought “When in Rome…”). It’ll have to be patched up by then so I can play it docked without these framerate issues.

    EDIT: Jesus Christ! These comments. I’ve only read about Gamespot’s (in)famous review of Twilight Princess with an 8.8 codified the trope but I never read those comments in 2006 because Internet-connection was different back then but I’m seeing history in the making with people having no self-awareness of just how shit they are.

  • goombacrusher

    You can instantly skip those repeated cutscenes though?

    • Loona Chan

      I shouldn’t want to skip any cutscene on a first play through. One should ask instead why they chose to have the same cutscene over and over.

      • Tadici

        Because watching Link humming while cooking is neat and I don’t mind it.

    • Travis Touchdown

      Oops, better not mention that. I can’t let the game look better than what I want it to look like.

  • Decentsauce

    Great review Jim!

  • UnbeatableSG

    This comment section has everything; Trolls, fanboy/girl rage, misuse of the word objective.

    I could keep reading all day.
    9/10, objectively better than BOTW.

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      I would be more creative with my insults. They’re fanatics, breathers of the plague, screaming hommunculus that wish for their endless torment to end, etc.

    • Sperium3000

      Which in turn is objectively better than Uncharted 4.

      • galactix100

        You’re thinking of Quantum Break.

        • Sperium3000

          Your comment is objectively better than BOTW.

          • galactix100

            Blatantly better, some would say.

          • Sperium3000

            Egregiously better.

  • GOLDEN

    Most other reviews are nothing but overhyped/nostalgia scores.

    But still Zelda is still a good game.

  • Ghost Z

    Horizon zero dawn is better this is proof.

  • Judas Priest

    Zelda Breath of the Wild 7/10. Horizon Zero Dawn 9.5/10
    Their reviews are very consistent kkkkk

    • Ghost Z

      Right because there the same …

    • CX316

      I don’t see the issue here. Are you suggesting he’s going to score all open world games the same? Because trust me, if he gets around to playing Ghost Recon, it’ll be lucky to get a 7 out of him.

    • Different games. Review scores can’t just be compared directly to each other. I feel like this shouldn’t even have to be said.

  • Kinan

    Am I going crazy or..is this the first non 10/10 score I’ve seen?

    • Teutep

      Probably not as crazy as the comment section below

    • CX316

      I took a look on metacritic. It’s got a lot of 9’s and 10’s, then this 7 and a 6.

      The Co-Optional crew who had played it raved about it but also had some pretty serious complaints about parts of it at the same time.

      • Sperium3000

        So basically it’s awesome unless these couple of sticking points -really- bother you.

  • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

    Real reason for 7/10 score: increase clicks and site traffic

    • Fallen Prime

      By what metric does he benefit from that?

      • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

        His advertisers do, mainly

        • Loona Chan

          lol, no advertisers, idiot. new here?

          • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

            Traffic to this site is up 400% since the article was posted.

            Hmm. No ulterior motives here…

          • Loona Chan

            Look at the sides. he has no ads. Increased traffic does not make him a dime.

          • HUE

            It still makes him famous you fucking retard, more people will get to know his fat lardass and more contrarian faggots will be prone to donate money to his whale bull.

          • Fallen Prime

            Oh, this one’s making his “best of the comment section” article.

          • Oh look, using overused internet insults. Nothing kills an argument faster than lashing out at someone because they’re countering with an honest, factual disagreement.

          • Andreas Dellrud

            And yet, not a single ad on the site..

          • Because of his Patreon, he specifically doesn’t put ads on his site.

          • Fallen Prime

            There’s no way for us OR him to see who comes to this site, so where are you getting this figure from?

          • Carrion Dovecote

            In all fairness I can see really specific numbers on when/why my sites have high traffic. Almost every single domain’s traffic can be tracked, even the very bare bones sites that lack a lot of back end support.

            On top of that, ads arent the only way to benefit from heavy traffic on your website, in fact you can utilize your traffic in various ways to generate passive income.

            BUT

            I trust Jim and dont think the score of this game has anything to do with traffic or money. His opinion is more likely skewed by how badly Nintendo has been treating him as a critic.

          • Fallen Prime

            Jim has all the tracking stuff turned off, I believe he said. Including and especially on his own end. Because that’s how little he cares about the clicks.

          • The fact that you’re going down this whole “advertiser” route — dude, bad choice. But I’m not going to do your homework for you. I’ll just block you, instead, for being a retard.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            Do you have to use the word retard as an insult? My cousin is ‘retarded’ and she’s the nicest person you’ll ever meet, please stop this blatant bigotry and think before you comment, cunt.

        • Fallen Prime

          His who?

    • Idders

      This site doesn’t have ads, clicks don’t generate revenue. Reach harder please.

    • Sperium3000

      This site derives no money from traffic, Jim is completely funded through Patreon. Maybe, as a critic, he’s just doing his job of telling his audience his honest opinion about a game? I know you may think that, because you like this game, it is perfect and everyone else should like it, but if you take two seconds to stop and think about others that are not yourself, you may conclude that people have different tastes.

      Jim has said on his podcast and in other reviews how he’s been growing tired of the open world style of games, and of certain trappings of that genre in which Zelda adhere’s to. So when he gives it a 7, you should ask yourself, “Does the negative points he brough up apply to -me-? Do I mind those trappings? Do I -like- them? Is this point he likes something I -don’t- like in a game?” and so forth.

      The point of a review is NOT to validate your opinion, it is to help you formulate your own, informed opinion through that of the critic’s.

  • I can also give Zelda an arbitrary rating for people to get mad at:

    I give this game a banana out of pull-out sofa. If it had better graphics and less DLC, it totally would’ve been an artichoke out of desk.

  • JeronimoPW

    I’ve seen people comparing Horizon with Zelda, and comparing what a reviewer has scored higher for a particular game. Such nonsense. You can’t compare this games, unless it’s a copy of another or have the same purpose of gameplay in all aspects. For example, you can unapologetically compare FIFA with PES, but never do the same with Uncharted and Gears of War. They are games within the same genre but with different experiences and gameplay proposals. You review a game based on the proposal of the game itself, and not comparing with others who have different proposals. As I said, unless they present the same concept itself.

    • Travis Touchdown

      Horizon and Zelda are both open world adventure games.

      Zelda is just plain better in every respect.

      Of course people are going to compare them.

      • Loona Chan

        I can play Horizon: Zero Dawn in 2k. I can only play BotW in 15 year old 720p. Not better in that respect.

        • Defron

          Go play some Hentai

          • Loona Chan

            はい、会長!!

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            BAKA

            (yeah that’s right I’m a weeb, what about it? any 2D girls here hmu)

        • LargeAndReadyToCharge

          Game quality = resolution x framerate

          • Loona Chan

            I didn’t say anything about game quality. he said “Zelda is better in every aspect.” Including those that have nothing to do with game quality.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            so why try to dispute the claim, its irrelevant.

          • Teutep

            Is it?

            “Every respect” includes technical standpoint.

        • Travis Touchdown

          No one cares.

          • Loona Chan

            I do. My eyes aren’t super great and playing games in high resolution on decent screens helps my experience objectively.

      • JeronimoPW

        No that’s stupid, and it comes from people who don’t understand anything about games. It’s just bait. Horizon and Zelda are games with similar genres, but have extremely different gameplay/story proposals (Like many others… Fallout and Skyrim, GTA 5 vs Watch Dogs 2, etc). It’s not the same experience playing Zelda and Horizon. It makes the comparison invalid.

      • 09philj

        Except that they aren’t the same. They share aspects, but are not directly comparable. I’d rather play Horizon than Zelda, because I prefer what Horizon is offering; something with a greater RPG bent and with more refined combat mechanics.

        • Travis Touchdown
          • 09philj

            Yes. I want what it has. I hate that boring Dark Souls-esque dodge roll focused combat in almost all instances, except Monster Hunter, because in that series the weapons dramatically change up your fighting style.

          • Sperium3000

            It’s called having an opinion, man. Some people will like the combat of one game better than that of the other. It’s subjective stuff, as a review is subjective.

      • Dorian Schwarzengerman Sanchez

        Dude you are a fucking child. You get so fucking uppity that someone might prefer Horizon over your precious Zelda. It’s pathetic. I love both games but the way fans act when someone isnto head over heels for their favorite franchise is fucking sad.

    • Max Whiteley

      Pes is better than FIFA.

      • JeronimoPW

        If you say so 🙂

        • Max Whiteley

          It dosent matter what I think! I need a critic to tell me my opinion is right!

      • Loona Chan

        YOUR OBJECTIVELY WRONG I GIVE THIS COMMENT A -100/10 stop clickbaiting

        • Max Whiteley

          Well done for seeing my click bait comment for what it was…. Have a 7/10!

  • LargeAndReadyToCharge

    Nostalgia ✔
    BUH ITS HIS OPINION ✔
    Rose tilted glasses ✔
    Stamina WTF ✔
    BUT WHY IS RAIN WET ✔
    10/10? PLEASE ✔
    Zelda lmao people so salty ✔
    7/10 ✔

    • Will Harvey

      This is far from nostalgia bait.

      • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

        Sure is good flame and click bait though

        • LargeAndReadyToCharge

          I love it, and I’m on both sides.

          • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

            He’ll love it until the controversy (and his bank account) dries up

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            he doesn’t seem like the guy to care too much about his bank account, to be honest.

          • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

            Or his reputation, for that matter.

            Pass the popcorn please!

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            ayy lmao

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            but he sure showed Nintendo though, right…right?

          • Fallen Prime

            He’s been making a very comfortable living off his Patreon long before this review went up. He has nothing substantial to gain from posting an honest, if against-the-grain, review of a game that every other outlet is jizzing itself over.

          • darksteel6

            he dosen’t care about controversy you moron, he gets no money from people reading his reviews.

        • Will Harvey

          Not really clickbait because he doesn’t have ads

  • Jonathan Espinoza

    Dude, this review, what happened to you jim? What you said was extremely negligible. Some parts about the weapon breaking. Okay I agree but not allowing you to be varied with your weapons is just wrong.

    • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

      Shhh, no talking about the weapons with unlimited durability

  • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

    Rain too wet, 7/10

  • Pablo Zamora

    Some people just really don’t deserve to play videogames, who cares, this review is a death sentence to this website. Enjoy the clicks.. (they won’t last)

    • Dorian Schwarzengerman Sanchez

      He has no adds on his site so clicks are pointless. Grow the fuck up and go enjoy your game.

      • Pablo Zamora

        I am enjoying it far more than the reviewer so no worries, also, no need to be so edgy. He has his opinion, I have mine 😉

        • Solipsis

          You’re the edgy one here buddy, you’re pathetic. Another hapless fucking sheep that can’t handle someone who doesn’t praise this game into oblivion.

          • Pablo Zamora

            So I’m pathetic for giving my opinion over a “Profesional Review” where the reviewer doesn’t even understand the core mechanics of this game, cries over one hit kills without even planning a strategy first, cries over weapon breaking system where weapons can be found literally EVERYWHERE, gets annoyed by cutscenes, WHICH YOU CAN SKIP COMPLETLY BY PRESSING A BUTTON, and proudly shows a pic of his companion horse which ironically calls it “My Dick”… in a profesional review?.. also to mention, that the reviewer gave Hyrule fucking Warriors a 9.5 and this a 7? Explain that to me. The game deserves the high scores it has because it is a well thought game throughout, it actually makes you THINK your next move and find the best way to solve different situations by having what you have, like Witcher 3 or Dark Souls, it makes you explore and get better gear so you don’t go like idiot fighting a giant boss, half naked and with a wooden sword, but I guess some gamers loves to be hold by their hands because this game is too “difficult” for them to understand. if you’re here defending this “Profesional Review” yeah buddy, you’re the reason the gaming industry is the way it is. I’m not saying that the game is perfect, it is not, but it’s not a “7” type of game, specially when BOTW is giving NEW blueprints for devs to follow when it comes to the creation of open world games, the flaws the reviewer is tackling are hilarious to even take serious, specially when the pros outweights the cons by a wide margin. Whatever, I’m done here, I’m wasting my too much of my time.

        • Ian

          “He has his opinion, I have mine”

          Maybe update your original comment to reflect that sentiment, then.

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        That would make sense if his income wasn’t generated through his online content, which it is. (Through Patreon, which is linked to from this website.)

    • darksteel6

      you are a goddamn moron you know that, plenty of people aren’t pathetic fanboys like you and will happily continue to visit this site, plus Jim makes no ad revenue from his reviews anyways.

    • Umana

      Well personally this game is my all time favorite now after 25 years of gaming and I will keep coming back. I also enjoyed this review. We all have different tastes.

    • Joshua Chap

      go play your nintendo and enjoy it, if you’re upset then why are you here and not playing the greatest game of all time.

  • Eon264

    Okay, I get where Jim is coming from. He doesn’t like stamina that hampers you, or managing an inventory, or being forced to play a game by its terms rather than his own. That’s a perfectly fair perspective to have, and with that in mind the 7/10 makes absolute sense. If you’re bitching about his score you can fuck off.

    All that being said, what I don’t get is why we have to treat it like it’s a totally alien concept that other people might find those things to be fun… speaking as one of those people, I enjoy being efficient while I’m playing a game. I enjoy working around challenges or roadblocks that stop me from achieving whatever I’m doing. Yeah, it’s certainly not fun to wind up sliding down a cliff face because you’ve run out of stamina… that’s why you don’t brute force it and deliberately frustrate yourself, you come back later when you’re prepared and then you make it to the top and you’re like “I couldn’t do this before, and now I have” and your brain releases endorphins and you feel good. Is that really so hard to get? I mean it can’t be that hard to understand how someone could feel satisfaction in being sure they always have enough weapon durability to take care of a fight, or enjoy improvising whenever they don’t. Sometimes, putting barriers between yourself and your enjoyment makes the enjoyment better when you overcome them. I totally respect that not everybody’s going to share that perspective, it would just be kind of nice to get that in return.

    My piss is clearly not boiling like some other peoples (that’s how that phrase works right?) but to be completely fair, while they’re rambling about the score is meaningless they have some small reason to be upset. Whether intentionally or not, the review kind of treats the approach to “fun” I described as invalid, and… well that’s not really fair. It’s not worth foaming at the mouth over (seriously, wtf is wrong with these people?) but it’s kind of not cool. That’s all, have a nice day whoever manages to find this in the deluge of nonsense pouring in.

  • Will Harvey

    You gave Fallout 4 a 9.5 but Zelda a 7? Ok

    • Wolfie

      Is this like a thing that’s going around somewhere? Is it on NeoGaf or GameFAQs or something? Like, how many times are people going to repeat this?

      • Will Harvey

        What are you even talking about? I’m not repeating this from anyone.

    • galactix100

      Now, tell me how that makes you feel.

      • Will Harvey

        Don’t mistake me for one of those Nintendo fanboys. I own an Xbox and gaming PC, and have played Fallout 4 for much longer than I care to admit. But I still disagree with Fallout 4 being higher than Zelda, although that is just Jim’s opinion after all.

        • galactix100

          Yeah, sorry about that. I got to the point where I was just being a wind up merchant for a laugh and maybe got a bit carried away.

    • darksteel6

      yeah he likes Fallout 4 better, suck it.

      • Will Harvey

        I see you trolling everywhere in these comments. Don’t you have anything better to do?

        • darksteel6

          considering i’m sick and not at work at the moment, not really.

          • Will Harvey

            Sorry to hear that. I hope you get better soon!

  • Fartman420

    The real reason for the 7/10 score is that he’s currently approaching the
    shore of cuba in a sailboat, type thing to steal all the drugs
    from…cuba (like I mentioned earlier) hes usin this review as a sort of
    distraction, the worlds eyes will be watching this website while jim
    smuggles at least 100 dollars worth of illegal drugs onto his kind of
    like, sailboat thing I duno and takes them back to his ‘house’ in the
    united Kingdom to do the following: 1. sell each rock of coke for double
    the usual price. Sorry folks, I can’t help that my Pappa is a
    serious not to be messed with FBI type like…I duno covert Ops type guy
    who has fucking shitloads of paperwork on like everyone in the world.
    Remember my name I’m the guy that’s gonna take JIm Sterling, not only
    down to the ground……….but to a federal court of law.

    • TimKovich

      A federal court of law is generally on the ground, though.

  • MG_Salad

    Just a reminder to everyone that Slant Magazine gave the game a lower score than Jim, so he’s not the only one who isn’t in “omgz masterpiece” mode.

    • Travis Touchdown

      And just like this review (Perhaps even more so) those people are making really bizarre complaints that don’t make a whole lot of sense.

    • EM87

      read that review tho

  • vishmarx

    This comment section is amazing. So many asses on fire because some random person gave your favorite game a score that brought down the average from 98 to 97.
    Humanity truly has devolved

    • Teutep

      It’s almost like people aren’t allowed to have different opinions, yeah.

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      Makes me feel shitty about how I lose my shit when FFXIII is the worst whatever by everyone but this really puts things into perspective and I don’t ever want to feel what they’re feeling ever again.

    • Wolfie

      You know, this is how Hitler came to power.

      • vishmarx

        By writing game reviews that offend Nintendo fanboys?

        • Wolfie

          No no, by getting metacritic scores lowered.

          See, the German economy was dependent on Metacritic, so they released WWI, “The Great War,” but then people were like “I don’t like it very much!” when they actually got into the trenches, so its metacritic score tanked, the German economy went completely belly-up, and Hitler came out and was like “It is the fault of the Jewish fanboys! They are responsible for metabombing our war and our country! And we must brigade against them to balance out the score against this terrible bias in the name of ethics in gaming journalism!”

          And, yeah, you know the rest.

    • K.C.

      I counted all the review and their scores on metacritic (because I have no life).
      It wasn’t actually Jims review that brought the score down from 98 to 97, because Jim’s review brought it down from 97.90 to 97.55, which would still be a 98.
      It was Slant’s review (who gave BotW 3 out of 5 -> 60/100) who brought the score down from 97.90 to 97.43.

      I don’t know if what I’m saying is actually important, I just wanted a excuse to use my calculator.

  • 09philj

    > Fat slur
    > Implication of clickbait
    > Mental illness as an insult
    > Homophobic slur

    Am I commenting right?

    • Don’t forget comparing his previous reviews and getting mad over the score itself.

      • Stephen Mc Devitt

        Or trying to make “memes” of Jim’s different scores with the self-awareness level of Konami having horse armour DLC in MGSV years after how infamous that meme was in Oblivion.

    • UnbeatableSG

      You also need to say its objectively better than a game jim liked more.
      Horizon is a popular choice today.

      • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

        Its also rated lower across the board

        • UnbeatableSG

          Of course it is. Zelda is zelda. it could litterally punch you in the face every 5 minutes and still get 10s.

    • Earl Agustines

      Don’t forget insulting people who like the review. It just isn’t salty enough without that

  • RoanarTheFruitiful

    The one reviewer I trust is you Jim, thank you for writing a very detailed review before I invest in The Switch for this game, it’s better to hold off until later in the year.

    • Stephen Mc Devitt

      Plus plenty of good games this season anyway.

      • RoanarTheFruitiful

        Very true! Just finished Horizon, masterpiece of a game, playing Ghost Recon (not a bad game but okay) until Mass Effect

  • Yeenngling7

    I will say this, anyone who keeps up with your tweets, videos and knows your general attitude toward Nintendo is going to see you personal bias towards the game. Been waiting on your review for this game for a while and I had feeling it would be “mixed” just based on your recent high reviews for Nioh and Horizon and how you have attempted to critique Nintendo hard.

    So in short, yes, it’s going to be hard for anyone to not think you just didn’t want to enjoy it and were looking for flaws. I mean you even acknowledged and called out the 10/10 reviews. Inevitably, you come across as just looking like that one contrarian dude.

    • And yet one of his favourite games in recent years, one that he obsessed with, praised highly, and included among his favourite games of that year…

      Was Splatoon.

      • Travis Touchdown

        Splatoon is a kind of a weird outlier since it does a whole bunch of things that people have been saying Nintendo should do for years. Criticizing Splatoon would have made him look like a retard.

        • Why would that make him look like that?

        • dfx7

          Or maybe it’s because it solved a lot of the things he himself called out for years and because the game was a ton of fun?

  • The Goat

    About the weapon durability complaint- it seems that maybe you used the best weapons on the worst enemies, causing a durability drop off. It’s much more viable to use your average weapons on your average enemies, and the best ones on the best enemies. The point of the weapon durability system is to create weapon diversity, and you really went against this(from what i can see in your review) by being counter-intuitive and using your best weapons all the time. It doesn’t discourage using the good weapons, rather, it encourages using them in more necessary situations.

  • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

    Weapons break (but some actually don’t), 7/10

    • darksteel6

      moron

    • Adam Benevides

      They all break.

  • [email protected]

    aka “fuck nintendo for not letting me make streambuxs 7/10”

    • darksteel6

      fanboy

      • [email protected]

        haven’t owned a single nintendo product since the snes. project more

        • So then why are you lashing out at Jim over the score?

          • [email protected]

            Lashing? I called him out on his bias score because nintendo shut down streambuxs. Cry more

          • Why, though, if you’re not invested in Nintendo products? What does it matter to you?

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            do we need to be ‘invested’ in something to have a conversation about it?

          • Well, it seems to have hit a nerve with you if you felt the need to “call him out.”

          • [email protected]

            Yes, because I don’t like reviews that are’t genuine. I’m invested in the integrity of reviews, something which Jim shows a blatant lack of regard of. Shit like this is why you can’t trust game reviews.

          • What about his review isn’t genuine? Can he not simply have a differing opinion?

          • [email protected]

            “I see too many things getting in the way of the brilliance, too much repetitive busywork and full-on dick moves for me to say this is even close to my favorite Zelda game,”

            aka the actions of this company lately haven’t pleased me so fuck this game. it’s pretty obvious. but continue sucking his dick

          • The key word there is “I.” It’s from his perspective. His opinion.

            Fun fact: People can have opinions that you don’t agree with. When that happens, you don’t have to get angry about it.

          • [email protected]

            if you can’t read between the lines and see his obvious distaste for the company than you’re probably autistic.

          • I don’t see any “obvious” distaste at all. He criticizes Nintendo, to be sure, but he’s liked their games in the past. And he liked this game, as a 7/10 score indicates. He just didn’t like it as much as others.

          • The Goat

            Obviously the other guy believes that his opinion on the game is biased of the streambuxs service being hut down, and that jim isn’t showing honest, genuine journalism.

          • [email protected]

            “Why do bias reviews matter to you if you aren’t invested in the corporations they’re biased against?”

            Kill yourself idiot.

            Vish, his closing note says it all: “I see too many things getting in the way of the brilliance, too much repetitive busywork and full-on dick moves for me to say this is even close to my favorite Zelda game,”

            “full-on dick moves”. Dude’s butthurt and wrote a bad review because of it. Disingenuous bullshit. Reminds me of the ign review of alien isolatio

          • “Kill yourself idiot.”

            Wow. We’re just tossing any modicum of civility right out the window, huh?

          • [email protected]

            Kill yourself.

          • Why?

          • Wolfie

            No thanks.

          • vishmarx

            How do you know its biased and not true ? Have you played it?

          • darksteel6

            it’s not biased you moron, Jim really does not care much about streaming Nintendo games.

          • [email protected]

            Whatever dude. I hope Jim’s at least paying you for sucking his dick.

          • darksteel6

            I just like slagging off moronic fanboys like you, how much is Nintendo paying you to suck their dicks?

          • Wolfie

            Got it, you’re a troll. Noted.

          • galactix100

            Is this what’s considered trolling these days? I remember when that shit was practically an art form, he says taking a break from yelling at the punk kids on his lawn.

          • Wolfie

            I try to stick to it as an art, but… yeah.

    • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

      LOL nailed it

      • darksteel6

        stop sucking Miyamoto’s dick.

    • galactix100

      You do realise almost all of Jim’s revenue comes from patreon right?

      • Wolfie

        And he barely streams anyway? When was the last time he had a stream?

        I swear, they just descend into the vast sea of idiocy further and further.

        • galactix100

          I wanna say about 9 months or so ago. Around last summer would be my guess.

          Hey, does anyone know what Jim did last summer?

  • Kerotan

    PSA for the people about to comment: if you care about what rating a guy on the internet put on a game, please, reconsider you life choices, thanks.

  • LargeAndReadyToCharge

    This review just makes me wanna ✔DAB✔ 😂😂😂😂 he totally 🔥🔥🔥BURNED🔥🔥🔥 Nintendo with this one.

    TAKE THAT Nintendo for not supporting my boy 🔥JIM STERLING SON🔥 💯💯💯💯💯

    • Fallen Prime

      I was trying to lesson you still.

      Why don’t you like fun?

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        I’m still catching up mate give me a sec.

        • Fallen Prime

          I know that feel. The moment the Zelda radicals came in, I stopped being able to track things clearly.

          Did you know Disqus fucks up if you’re trying to open up more than 200 old comments and someone makes a new one? If you click the new comment thing, it doesn’t snap to the right place and the blue bar and time stamp are frozen. That, and subsequent new posts randomly drop older ones from view.

  • Judas Priest

    Review summary: not great because I need to play to get something

    • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

      Not enough 30 hour plot exposition cutscenes, 7/10

      Too much gameplay, 7/10

      • Sperium3000

        You say that like a joke, but maybe that’s a valid point to someone? I mean, I’m a MGS fan, I like my 30 hour plot exposition cutscenes.

        • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

          And where is MGS now?

          Dead, gone, and on pachinko machines

          • Sperium3000

            So what? I still have a ton of great games I can go back to whenever I want. The series has been tied up with a nice bow since MGS 4 anyway. Anything after that was just fluff. Good fluff for the most part, but still fluff.

          • galactix100

            Admittedly that’s because Konami are idiots rather than the MGS games being bad.

          • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

            30 hours of cutscenes, five minutes of gameplay

          • Sperium3000

            Again, you may dislike that, I don’t. A lot of people don’t. That’s why the series lasted as long as it did.

          • galactix100

            And? If you don’t like that don’t play MGS.

          • Sperium3000

            THANK YOU

          • Max Whiteley

            Good.
            A higher budget for the team that actually makes konami money rather than spending it all.

    • RoanarTheFruitiful

      That’s pretty much every game though, he simply doesn’t enjoy some of the gameplay elements they have put in the game

    • 09philj

      Allow me to point out that Jim gives Soulsborne sloppy blowjobs all the time, and they demand you play to collect the weapons and armour you want.

      • LargeAndReadyToCharge

        Souls games are legit 10/10 💯💯💯 tho. Just like Zelda. Jim hates Nintendo lets all move on.

  • vishmarx

    Well if this is clickbait its clearly working.
    Congratulations you idiots.

    • dfx7

      Clickbait in a site with no adds,

      GENIUS!!!!!

      • Wolfie

        I think he’s referring to the people who say it’s clickbait, coming to the site, to say it’s clickbait, because they were baited to click successfully.

      • vishmarx

        “IF”

  • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

    Stamina meters are bad, but they’re fine in Dark Souls, 7/10

    • theeheadache

      exactly. now move along.

      • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

        Nevermind the blatant hypocrisy, nothing to see here

        • theeheadache

          “blatant hypocrisy” is judging two similar mechanics in two different games used for two different contexts, yes.

          • Wolfie

            FINAL FANTASY XII HAS A SWORD. IT NOT USED LIKE ZELDA. 0/10.

            Or some shit, I dunno. I’m getting a little burned out.

          • theeheadache

            RED DEAD AND ZEDLA ARE THE SAME BACUS HORSES!

            IF NOT HYPOCROCYS!

    • Biofail

      He’s pretty much always said that. It has to do with the fact that the entire combat system is based off of managing stamina kind of like how a mage would manage magic or an Asian martial artist would manage Ki. In BotW it sounds like his problem is that stamina affects everything else to a point where you don’t feel empowered, but instead you feel like you are controlling someone who could barely manage to open a pickle jar.

  • ZeroMayhem

    I love the Zelda series but just do not understand the rampant fanboy-ism that makes people freak out over anything less than a perfect score.

    I haven’t played BotW yet but no doubt it’s a solid game as are all Nintendo’s Zeldas. Even the entries in the series I like less than others are well made games. Still I’ve grown to be skeptical of reviews for the series precisely because of its ever inflating status. I mean look at the perfect and glowing reviews for Skyward Sword that ignore its issues in favor its NEW Zelda status. Now that BotW is out suddenly it’s a return to greatness for the series that apparently was equally as great just last game but now last game isn’t as great as it was? It’s only when a new Zelda comes out do people look back critically at the last entry it seems. To be critical of Zelda (especially as a critic) doesn’t mean it’s bad, and loving a series doesn’t mean can’t critique it honestly.

    Also Okami is a better wolf Zelda game than Twilight Princess. Just gonna point that out for anyone that missed it.

    • Storme Prince

      I still love skyward sword and I’m thinking very clearly when I say that this is my favourite open world game and possibly my favourite game period even though I can seem many ways it could be improved.

      • ZeroMayhem

        Fair enough. I’m not saying someone should or shouldn’t like a game they enjoy. My issue is for the past few console Zeldas the reviews have become the same thing over and over. All hype and praise with very little actual criticism. Then the new one comes out and suddenly people can look at the last Zelda more objectively. I understand the love for the series and the fact that we get them so infrequently that the hype becomes overwhelming. Still, no new entry in a game series should get a pass on honest critiques due to name brand alone. I’ve lost faith in that from most review outlets when it comes to Zelda.

        • Storme Prince

          There is a difference between it “getting a pass because it’s Zelda” and Zelda doing things that may no be a big deal to you but immensely improve it for others. You say they have little criticism but I think in the case of BoTW so game elements are simply positive for some and a negative to others.

          I personally love the weapon durability and if I made a review it would be mostly talking about why it’s good with a couple minor gripes about the execution. Anyway I think the best mentality is always to ignore reviews in general and simply watch the game for a few hours.

          • ZeroMayhem

            I’m not saying that’s the case for BotW, it getting a pass. I haven’t played it yet myself so maybe it is or maybe it isn’t. I mean it’s difficult for me to get an honest read on the game based on reviews since in the past Zeldas I have played have gotten reviews that lack criticism in favor of hype based praise. I agree watching a game is a good way to get a feel for it but for some games I prefer a written overview to watching it because I prefer to avoid spoilers.

    • Graham Maddeaux

      I’d like to think in this case it’s more about how blatant it is that it’s some kind of personal vendetta thing and cry for attention.

  • David Sheep

    Doing this review does not change that this Zelda is one of the best games in history. You’re not going to fool anyone. You have already obtained your visits, congrats, but now you are portrayed as a very low quality web.

    • Fallen Prime

      There’s a very obvious stock dismissal that could be made here, but your username makes it for me.

    • galactix100

      The delicious irony that is your name

    • Travis Touchdown

      I don’t think he really has any credibility at this point.

      What we’re seeing here is a war between people who like video games (Nintendo fans) vs people who are only involved with the industry for their own personal gain. (Youtubers and their fans)

      • Teutep

        Except there really isn’t any personal gain here?

        Been said over and over, there’s no ads here.

      • Loona Chan

        It’s clearly a scandal. Maybe you should call it gamergate and start a movement?

        • Fallen Prime

          It’s about ethics in TV’s that look like an apple.

          • Wolfie

            Oh for fuck sakes dude, are we going to have to deal with Applegate now?

      • Wolfie

        Says the person who has nothing to argue with. Yeah yeah. Whatever, son.

      • Michael D

        Nintendo fans like video games, yeah I guess that’s why people who like Nintendo games always say games like we don’t need third parties, and

        Horizon, Nier, Nioh, etc are crap, PS4 games are all the same and boring, etc.

    • Wolfie

      Mmhm, sure, sure.

      I wish I had a “rubber stamp” program. One I could load pre-made sentences into, the hotkey them, so I could just rubber stamp my responses to bullshit like this.

      Cause god knows they put in about as much effort as a copy-paste for their outrage.

  • Teh Kao

    I love the reviewers that wait to see how other outlets score the game before reacting. You truly are 3 Armond White’s taped together, you clickbaity cunt.

    • Strawb

      He has no reason to clickbait, there are no ads on the site.

    • Loona Chan

      DRINK!

    • TimKovich

      Actually, he waited until he could finish the game because he didn’t get a review copy.

    • Graham Maddeaux

      Again really hard not to notice isn’t it

  • Teh Kao

    Tubbs gave Fallout 4 a 9.5
    A game that breaks immersions for tedious horseshit almost constantly.
    Try to be a little consistent and unbiased

    • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

      Didn’t that game have a stamina meter?

    • Strawb

      Considering your response to his score, you’re clearly very unbiased yourself.

    • Eon264

      *sigh* he specifically said in the review that the immersion breaking is only a minor annoyance. It’s when it’s compounded by all the other minor annoyances that he found that it becomes a problem. You may have found more annoyances than he did in fallout 4, and good for you. While I’m totally with you that that stuff wouldn’t bother me, this isn’t either of our review so the score isn’t tailored to us.

  • Voxion

    Most overrated game so far this year, thanks for the none biased review

    • George

      True!

  • Michael D

    Oh look at all the Nintendrones coming to the site to whine about how their special baby BOTW didn’t get another perfect 10. We get it, Zelda is the only game you guys have to play, but it’s not that great.

    Sorry kiddos. Maybe Reggie will let some of you join his harem sometime soon .

    • Loona Chan

      I don’t even like Nintendo much and I still spend a lot of time in his… treehouse.

      • Wolfie

        Hey little boy! I got the Nintendo in my van! Want to come play with me?

        I’ll buy you Subway!

    • Will Bertazzo

      I like how you complain about people whining about people who don’t have the same opinion as them and then proceed to whine about people who don’t have the same opinion as you.

      A+

  • Sevorast

    • Teutep

      Glad to hear you enjoy the game nonetheless. 🙂

  • MTC001

    “Not the right amount of water!” 7/10

  • JohnnyBravoo

    Weird how it’s nintendrones doing this, yet when a Naughty Dog game gets less than a 9, let’s investigate because it’s all a conspiracy against Sony.

    I guess you have to decide which company cock you want to stroke huh?

  • Nemrex
  • Imran Sulaiman

    I have to say… a ton of this feels like whining.

    like… ya i get having issues with 1 shot kills, but you have a shield that blocks 100% of things coming from that direction til it breaks, you have a dodge that heavily rewards you for perfect timing, and the ability to sit back and kite most enemies. theres only one enemy i find absurd and thats lyonels, as they are the only in the entire game that seems not to pay out for its difficulty. but more over, i’d argue the same point makes darksouls shit, because the combat can be so unfair at times, the damage rarely feels fair, and depending on your personal build, can seem damn near retarded at times. if your argument for darksouls is that the combat feels fair, i have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to a combat system that does everything to empower you and give you options to deal with whatever comes your way, save lyonels who i will concede, dont seem well designed but can be managed.

    Alternatively, it seems you just wandered in a direction and started dying and well… thats the thing its not level scaled which means wondering in a direction will see you facing hard enemies. i can’t even argue that it feels awful dying because unlike darksouls (once again) this game isn’t a test of sanity, having a cheap death wont make you feel salty when you respawn just moments before and have another shot at it, where as in dark souls you lose major, and i mean major progress, alongside souls, potential durability, etc etc.

    like i want to like this review, but i’ve read so many of your reviews, that it just seems… like whining, like you aren’t giving it a fair shake because it straight up does many things better than games you adore.

    also @ weapon system, ya it breaks your weapons, just stop being upset by it and realize on break weapons stagger opponents, do more damage, and the game literally encourages you to use weapons to the point of breaking, hell that stagger can even disarm enemies and straight up give you a new toy to play with. its very much a world that gets more fun, the more you play in, as you realize good spots to farm, where to find solid weapons, etc etc.

    because thats kinda the point, the blood moon exists to let you restock, the map markers exist to let you mark points of interest, i spent literally 3 minutes every time a blood moon passed farming over 1000 rupees from stone talos’ and getting highly stated weapons from a “major test of strength” and this whole idea of learning, and adapting your play style because your normal conventions of play are sundered is lovely, and even if you are frustrated, the master sword finally feels like something of a reward, an upgrade that will always be with you, and is quite threatening in certain situations, and has a relatively small down time when traveling around the world is factored in.

    its just hard… i’d recommend you replay the game and just… drop your conventional thinking on the matter, when you stop putting this “too good to use” syndrome on everything the game opens up, and i have to say most of my issues with the game came from… well prior exposure to other games that reinforced these horribly unfun habits.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      wrong

    • Loona Chan

      Yeah, complaining about frustrating and unnecessary game mechanics could be called “whining.”

      • Imran Sulaiman

        weapon breaking is part of the game, and he might not like it, but it serves a purpose, and that’s not an unnecessary game mechanic. rain, ya i agree with, but thats the only thing i can really say is like ya, he actually has a point there, rain is obnoxious, especially since you can’t light a fire to pass the time in a rainstorm.

        • Uldi

          Going to disagree with weapon breaking being a necessary game mechanic. The primary reason seems to be to encourage changing weapons frequently. This can be done by simply making certain enemies resistant to damage to all but certain weapons. Problem of players sticking to just a few different weapons: solved; and without resorting to weapon durability.

          It can’t be realism, because even half-competently made swords wouldn’t break as quickly as those in BOTW. Add in that you can’t repair still intact weapons, and this argument falls flat.

          • Nutarama

            Diablo 2 on the Hell difficulty mode made me carry a backpack full of weapons because you could run into enemies that were immune to up to 3 out of 5 types of damage. I’d occasionally need a poison weapon just because I’d find a stupid ghost that’s immune to physical, fire, and cold. That was a pain in my butt.

          • InfamousDS

            One of the YouTube commenters on the Jimquisition said that the expectation for weapons made of hardened stone and forged metal is that they are far more durable than the reality.

            If I had a YouTube account, I would have countered that with the existence of modern metal weaponry that people use for their entire careers as police officers, chefs, Ren Faire reenactors, and fishermen. I don’t know of many careers which use metal implements that double as weaponry.

          • Uldi

            Anyone that thinks a properly made steel sword is brittle is a moron. History itself proves that wrong. There are no accounts of warriors or soldiers or knights carrying a dozen swords into battle because their swords broke so easily.

          • GreenGarden and 5th DD Clones⁴

            The only thing I can think of is maybe Katanas due to there light weightness and material used, but they aren’t meant for the type of combat like say a claymore would be used for.

          • Uldi

            Katanas do just fine. Like every other well-made steel sword, they have a hard steel edge (holds an edge but can chip) with a milder steel core (“softer” and more flexible, used to absorb impact without breaking)

          • DreikoRokun

            It’s necessary for what nintendo wanted to achieve in breath of the wild, which was completely free exploration, not tied to “i don’t have a weapon that can defeat enemies in this area, so can’t go there until i find one”, you can go to anywhere you want, the key word here is “when you feel prepared to go”, weapon durability promotes exploration, since your weapons can break, it makes storming an enemy’s base more rewarding, as you can get rare or stronger weapons, either from chests or the enemies themselves, it also helps making the game more difficult and using the environment to your advantage to overcome challenges.

            At least, that’s how it feels to me, i never felt like the game punished me for not having a certain weapon or item or for exploring areas that, in other games, looks like i shouldn’t be going there yet until the game tells me, i really love the freedom in this game, even if it can be a little frustrating from time to time, but then again, blood borne is far more frustrating and annoying, yet i still love that game

        • Nutarama

          The problem is that Dark Souls 2 did durability better. Weapons and Armor broke, but could be repaired. Weapons and Armor were balanced around durability – you could get really strong weapons that only had tiny amounts of durability, forcing you to play differently. Also it had monsters and traps that would kill your durability, making some areas nearly unplayable with a build that relied on powerful low-durability items.

          In BotW, it’s just that stuff breaks and disappears. This arguably decreases weapon variety because if my cool rare sword will definitely break eventually, I’d rather save it for a fight that’s important or too hard. Thus I run around with a basic, easily replaceable weapon most of the time.

  • theeheadache

    mmm the butthurt warms my soul and fills my belly.

  • Corey

    I sense the salt hahaha…. Jim you big bastard, what have you done to yourself.

    I hope you make it out of this alive. The only reviewer out there that posts trust worthy reviews. You can tell reading the zelda reviews that they acted like open world games were brand new or something. Like they were innovating… what a joke.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      ^ This comment is why people are annoyed.

      People act like because 1 person gave it a bad review that it’s the ‘true’ review.

      • chaz

        Yes, thank you

      • Corey

        maybe if you only ever touched a nintendo console you can see the hype. but the game is nothing special except for maybe the art design.

        • chaz

          Maybe if you had played the game, you wouldn’t make a fool of yourself

        • LargeAndReadyToCharge

          except all those people who, despite playing mainly on PS4, XB1 or PC, go back to Nintendo every single time.

          • CX316

            Nostalgia. There’s a few choice IPs that Nintendo has under lock and key that they refuse to allow out to play anywhere else, and those IPs have been around long enough that most gamers grew up with SOME iteration of those games. Whether it be playing Mario as a kid, Starfox, Metroid or Zelda, playing a new game in the IP will remind you of your childhood. Nintendo just found a way to monetise that nostalgia.

    • chaz

      Jim is entitled to his opinion, and I respect the fact that he takes so long to explain why he feels the way he does, but to pretend that he is the only one being honest, and others are all gushing, is ridiculously dumb

      • Corey

        i am not denying that people find this game the greatest game ever… i am just confused as to why people suddenly thing open world games are brand new again. this game copies a lot of open world games out there. its not innovative and the combat is garbage.

        • LargeAndReadyToCharge

          I’d argue that in this current world of very, very slight innovations in gaming between different games, that this game is particularly innovative, even if not that much in the grand scheme of things.

          • Corey

            just read the ign review to understand what i am talking about.

        • chaz

          Literally all of this is wrong, but alright

        • chaz

          Because it is very innovative and the combat is great. And I’ve actually played the game to be able to make that assessment.

  • Fafner

    And here we are…was waiting for the classic site looking for free clicks publishing an half rant just for the sake of going against the general consensus. It took longer than usual but here it is 🙂

    • Loona Chan

      DRINK!

      • Moonman

        I would totally make a drinking game out of this if i didn’t have work tomorrow.

    • Miles Saintborough

      What free clicks? He doesn’t make money off of this if that is what you’re thinking.

      • Fafner

        I wouldn’t be that sure.

        • Sperium3000

          What are you talking about? You can’t just say something that is clearly untrue and be like “Oho, but what if it is not untrue~?” that’s not how this shit works.

    • James LaValle

      And here we are…was waiting for the first asshole comment that completely ignores the fact that this site doesn’t run ads due to being independently funded, but still arbitrarily throws around the useless term of “clickbait” because other people aren’t allowed to have varied opinions on something. It took longer than usual, but here we are.

      You’re an asshole, is what I’m trying to say.

  • dfx7

    Funny enough I kinda expected that you would give it a 7.

  • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

    Cooking too hard, always end up with dubious food, 7/10

    • Teh Kao

      Jim is used to eating peanut butter out of a family-sized tin so it’s no shock cooking is baffling to him.

      • CX316

        Who the fuck eats peanut butter out of a tin?

        You eat it out of a JAR like a civilised person!

        • Teh Kao

          I certainly do eat it out a jar.

        • Idders

          Do it with your pinky out or you’re just a mouth breathing trog.

  • Uldi

    I don’t even need to see the comments to know that there are many people that either don’t understand Jim’s rating system (and are too fucking lazy to read his nice and clear explanation), or forgot it. A 7 is literally ‘Good’. This isn’t school (or IGN), where a 7 out of 10 is barely passing.

    I fully expected this score, since I know how much Jim dislikes durability on weapons. While I usually don’t mind it that much, when combined with an inability to repair, it does become an issue. Excessive item/gear management can be annoying.

  • RPBR

    A carajo con el drama según recuerdo un 7 no es mala calificación.

  • RoanarTheFruitiful

    What would the score have been WITHOUT the rubber fish helmet? That’s what I wanna know haha

    • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

      The game needs gimp suit DLC to trigger Jim.

      • Wolfie

        …what? That doesn’t even make fucking sense.

    • CX316

      I’d be curious what the score would have been without the dodgy DLC bullshit

  • Alex

    Look Jim, you fool no one, you are in front of one of the best videogames ever, you know this reviews is pure nonsense, you have been doing Nintendo clickbait videos for long now, you are clearly taking profit of the huge hatedom that Nintendo gets on the internet, and is bloody pathetic, this game is a legend and it will stay as a classic through the times, you however, are slowly becoming a huge joke.

    • CX316

      Still trying to justify the $360+ you spent to play a video game, eh?

      • Alex

        I don’t need to justify anything since I didn’t even bought the switch, played on WiiU, this game is the best thing I have ever played, and 99% of critics think is a huge masterpiece because it is, I’m not angry because Jim didn’t liked it, I’m angry because he gave it a 7 to cause a shitstom, the game does NOT deserve a 7 and he knows it, this is pure and disgusting clickbait.

    • Loona Chan

      DRINK! Making a drinking game out of “clickbait” wasn’t a good idea after all…

      • Strawb

        It does sound kind of tough.

      • Wolfie

        Fuck, dude! I don’t want you to die today!

        • Ian

          Valar morghulis.

  • Uragirimono

    Great review Jim, so many Zelda/Nintendo fanboy tears being shed in this comment section. Gods forbid a reviewer has a different view on a game than the other reviewers.

    People seem to be unable to realize that a 7/10 is actually a good score and says he actually liked the game despite being annoyed with some stuff within it or despite it’s flaws, I think fanboys just want every outlet and reviewer to suck this game’s dick and rate it a 10/10 across the board.

    Keep up the good work Jim, I’ve recently started playing Horizon and it’s been amazingly fun.

  • Moonman

    I think we need mental asylums for people that obsess over video game review scores.

    • Wolfie

      I’d prefer we have a chip installed in everyone’s brains that heats up the more they care..

      • Moonman

        I’m being serious tho, these people really need help.

  • Robinson Lew

    Why don’t you give a 0?

    • Fallen Prime

      Because he liked it.

    • Ian

      …because overall he liked it, even though there were some aspects that annoyed him?

  • Will Bertazzo

    Wasn’t Jim also not big on the last Zelda game? I remember reading an unimpressed review on destructoid for it which I think was written by him so I think maybe Zelda just isn’t his thing. If he doesn’t like them I’m not sure why he’s reviewing rhem now, aside from the fact that people want him to.

    • theeheadache

      he wasnt hot on the motion controls.

      • Will Bertazzo

        There were no motion controls in the last zelda game mate -_-

        Link Between Worlds, dude.

        • theeheadache

          oh, thinking console

          3.5/5… about the same..

          seemed he liked it.

          • Will Bertazzo

            Yeah turns out I got that and another review mixed up in my memory. I was thinking of someone else.

    • Fallen Prime

      He still likes Zelda, and I don’t think a less-than-amazeballs experience with Skyward Sword would sour the whole franchise for him.

      • Will Bertazzo

        Again I’m not talking about Skyward Sword. When I say the last Zelda game I mean the last one to come out. Not just the last one to come out on a home console.

        • Fallen Prime

          Then it wouldn’t have been on Destructoid. I think he was independent by that point, and if he somehow wasn’t, he was with the Escapist.

          • Will Bertazzo

            You’re right. I was thinking of a different review I guess. Probly not even a destructoid one. Jim was indeed with the escapist at the time and gave the game the same score he gave this which is more positive than the article I was thinking of.

  • JohnnyBravoo

    I want you guys to do one thing, remember the people in the comments.

    Trust me. When the next ND game gets below a 9, prepare for both sides to switch here. It will be hilarious.

    Fanboys are all the same, no matter what platform they are on yet they all act superior to the other.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      ND game below a 9? What world are you living in, one where a really great Zelda game gets a 7….wait..

    • Travis Touchdown

      The thing is Naughty Dog games actually deserve to be shit on.

      • Teutep

        Equally as much as Nintendo games do though.

        No bias.

    • Loona Chan

      I’ll love Jim regardless of what his opinions on video games are. How could you not he got sued for your sins.

  • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

    Basic enemy one shot me, 7/10

  • Zeroroute(進路 の 零度)

    You don’t have to give BotW a super high score,Sterling, but comparing it to a Ubisoft game is just looooooooooow

    • Fallen Prime

      Well, for one thing, Nintendo has ACTUAL icons.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      He’s more caught up on the businesses behind the games than the games themselves LUL

  • Daniel Lind

    Too many butthurt Nintendo fanatics in this thread. How about you BUY the game and enjoy it REGARDLESS what a game critique thinks?

    I know, it’s a very original idea.

    No, instead you come here and spout vile garbage like the pseudo-scum you are. Truly pathetic you lot are.

    • Travis Touchdown

      I have been for the last week. This is why I know Sterling is full of shit.

      • Loona Chan

        And you have to let the world know for what reason?

        • Travis Touchdown

          Because I love the game that much. I want to share my love for it with everyone.

          • Fallen Prime

            All you’re sharing is your hate for people who don’t love it.

            Which is absurd here because HE STILL LIKED IT.

          • Travis Touchdown

            Is that how you’re trying to justify my behavior? Ha ha.

            Sterling is desperately trying to nitpick a game that is, in all honestly, close to flawless.

          • Fallen Prime

            What, you think he actually loved it and is lying to us about how much? Just because YOU loved it?

          • Teutep

            Point is, your opinion != everyone else’s opinion.

            While for example Laura might like sex games, it doesn’t mean they’re my cup of tea. I love hearing about her love those games though.

            This isn’t to compare Zelda to those, but the concept remains the same.

          • Loona Chan

            you don’t like sex games? what are you someone who hates all games forever? your comment is a 0/10 clickbait.

          • Teutep

            You caught me!

          • darksteel6

            stop stating your opinions like they are facts you dumbass.

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      Exactly, this is what I’ve been trying to say the entire time.

    • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

      Too busy enjoying the game and laughing at Sterling’s personal army

  • I AM ANGRY AT JIM BECAUSE HIS OPINION OF A VIDEO GAME DOESN’T FALL IN LINE WITH MY OPINION!

    • LargeAndReadyToCharge

      me too lol but its his opinion at the end of the day i guess

  • EntropyExpirius

    Jim, I firmly think that you’re a cool guy. You’re literally the only [former] Destructoid reviewer that I can name. But you’ve tried way too hard with this review. You’re basically bitching about anything that ends up giving you a sense of progression.

  • [email protected]

    “Pretty good game, but I don’t like how Nintendo as a company has been acting lately so 7/10”

    • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

      muh stream, 7/10

      • darksteel6

        moron

        • [email protected]

          Darksteel goes on every anti-Jim comment to defend Jim.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            it IS Jim, so obvious.

          • darksteel6

            nope it’s not him, you can see Jim actually comment himself further down the page you pathetic dumbfuck

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            straight up mental breakdown over the internet lmao cool it off gramps

          • darksteel6

            you’re the one having a breakdown fanboy, i’m not getting my panties in a wad over a fucking review score.

          • [email protected]

            You are getting your panties in a wad over Jim being insulted though. Really makes me think

          • darksteel6

            not really, I just find it hilarious to fuck with fanboys like yourself.

          • Pretoguês

            You’re only making yourself look bad m8

          • darksteel6

            wrong fool

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            And the attempt by Diamond to give himself a new, better image disintegrates less than 72 hours after it started. Knew the hateful, immature, petulant side of you couldn’t stay hidden for long. Congratulations making all the people who came here to attack Jim look better by comparison now that you are the example they have of what debate or disagreement in this community looks like.

          • darksteel6

            Congratulations on being a women beater Chris, what was up with you smashing glass during that Good Morning America interview?

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            Wow, that’s pathetic as an insult even for you. You really are having a break down. Go to bed diamond, it’s obviously having a negative effect on you trying to be /this/ much of a douchebag all in one afternoon.

          • darksteel6

            Hey Chris, I liked your song “Loyal” what did you think of Rap Critic’s review of it?

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            Wow, you like Chris Brown’s music? You really are an idiot. But I’ll give you a pass for being off your terrible, immature insult game today, you’ve had a lot of people to tell to kill themselves for disagreeing with you about a video game review.

          • darksteel6

            Never said that Chris, oh yeah BTW congratulations on finally completing your community service, took you long enough. I wouldn’t be calling people like me an idiot if I were you though, winning a grammy does not entitle you to act like an ass.

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            Listen, I know it’s wrong to make fun of you for being unable to read, so I won’t. But not remembering your own comments from yesterday is pretty sad. But all anyone has to do is go back and read your responses to the assholes who showed up to see you were just as bad as them (Jim even called out ‘defenders’ like you who were just as bad as the Zelda fans in his video on Monday).

            But I get it, you’re upset that you couldn’t pull off pretending to be someone who isn’t universally hated for even a couple days. That could make anyone cranky when they also don’t understand how names work (at least you know my name even if you can’t read it, as I’m not a coward who hides behind multiple identities like you). So I’ll forgive your inability to form arguments and your weird fixation on guys who beat up women (although that does explain all the sexist insults I’ve seen you use on the past, I guess it’s probably better for everyone that I feel very confident you’re single). Go back to cheering for the suffering of others because they like different toys than you.

          • darksteel6

            I’m definitely not universally hated as much as a woman beater like you is, so i’m at peace with myself. I’ll forgive your inability to make any kind of sense at all.

            It’s probably better for everyone that nobody really cares what you think.

            I only cheer for the suffering of the pathetic fanboys who DDOsed Jim’s website, I think i’m justified in doing that, you weren’t by any chance upset over that review now were you?

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            Really, ‘your name sounds kind of like someone else’s name’ is the level of insult that fifth graders think is clever. I mean, you can literally see my last name there and somehow you can’t read it. You’re kind of just making me sad Diamond, you used to be better at this. Go to sleep, maybe you’ll remember how to call me cock sucker and tell me I’m bad for being bisexual in the morning.

          • darksteel6

            you sound like a first grader, if you’re bi that’s totally fine, i’ve got no problems with that. I can read your last name, can you read my screen name?

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            It’s clear though that you can’t Diamond, as you clearly don’t understand what my last name is. See, hyphens connecting two words like that make them into one, compound word. It’s okay, I understand if it’s hard.

            Go downstairs and ask Mommy to explain it to you. But don’t tell her why you need to know, I’m sure she won’t approve of how much time you’ve been spending online calling people cocksuckers or making jokes about beating women.

          • darksteel6

            Why don’t you step away from your computer for a sec and ask Rihanna what the definition of battery is?

            I’m sure your mother would not approve of your actions and would want you to get a life and stop obsessing over my posts.

          • Chris Schwartz-Brown

            Look if I knew Rhianna I definitely wouldn’t be wasting my time explaining how last names work to a coward like got, that’s for sure. But I’m done for today, you’re getting boring. Learn some new insults and maybe I’ll try to get you to stop functioning at a fifth grade level one of these days. Because right now you’re just pathetic. You notice now that everyone’s realized your diamond again I’m the only one even bothering to talk to you?

            Doesn’t that tell you something about how you’re thought of here? Even a child, or someone mentally and emotionally one like you must notice that.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            calm down with the profanity mister, I do not appreciate this tone

          • darksteel6

            I don’t appreciate pathetic fanboys like you.

          • Will Bertazzo

            Yes clearly the only person who would defend Jim is Jim so of course this guy is obviously Jim, just like you are obviously James Romine XD

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            how do you know

          • Will Bertazzo

            The same way you know that the other guy is Jim, of course.

          • darksteel6

            you mean every pathetic fanboy comment

          • [email protected]

            What’s more pathetic, a fanboy of a game or a fanboy of another man? Hmm?

          • darksteel6

            you’re more pathetic moron

    • darksteel6

      dumbfuck

      • [email protected]

        Darksteel goes on every anti-Jim comment to defend Jim

  • Miles Saintborough

    Best way to piss off Nintendo fans; give a game a good score so that it’s not perfect yet it’s not below average.

    • Sperium3000

      It wouldn’t have pissed people off any less if he said the game was bad though.

      • Miles Saintborough

        Nah, because a really low score would have just resulted in mostly accusations of trolling and being anti Nintendo whereas a below perfect score seems to trigger people more.

  • Teh Kao

    “The JoyCon got lodged in one of my folds, 7/10”

  • Anonymous Isn’t Anonymous

    Wasn’t this the guy that rated Ubitrash Watch Dogs 2 a 9/10?

    • darksteel6

      Fuck off moron, Jim is allowed to like Ubisoft games.

      • Fallen Prime

        Dude, this is actual grade-A faggotry. You wanna deal with the assholes, don’t BE one.

        • darksteel6

          way to be homophobic asshole.

          • Fallen Prime

            Buddy. I am a VERY outspoken champion of equality and LGBT rights. My comment history, which is VERY public if you’d like to sift through it, should reflect that. I would never disparage a people I have many, MANY close personal ties to.

            But this is actual faggotry and you need to chill.

          • What about his arguments makes him a homosexual?

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            you do know that the insult ‘dick’ does not actually refer to a dick, right?

            Use your brain and work it out.

          • So then what does the word mean in this context? I honestly don’t know. I usually drown out or ignore people who use that word.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            its used as an insult. just like pee brain, bird brain, idiot, cretin, pleb etc. they’re all meaningless straight up insults.

          • All seems unnecessary to me. Especially when it doubles as homophobic in this case.

          • [email protected]

            cry more

          • darksteel6

            Yes what indeed?

          • Fallen Prime

            Nothing. I’m not even using the word to imply it.

          • darksteel6

            then why use that word at all?

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            BAN BOSSY

          • Ah, so as a supporter of the LGBT community, you decided to use homosexuality as a weapon or an excuse to insult him?

          • [email protected]

            WAAAAH YOU USED A WORD FIGURATIVELY WAAAAHH MUH AUTISM

          • It’s a school day tomorrow. Don’t you have homework to do, kid?

          • [email protected]

            y-you’re a child!

          • 38 years old, actually. Meaning I don’t feel the need to needlessly get angry, insult people, and be unnecessarily rude just because someone has a different opinion from me.

          • Fallen Prime

            Alright, this is just devolving into a semantics argument and detracting from the actual purpose of my part of this conversation.

            I apologize, sincerely, for the use of that word to illustrate the point.

          • darksteel6

            apology accepted.

          • Fallen Prime

            Now stop flipping your tits at the trolls.

          • [email protected]

            waaah you disagree with me you are a troll!!111

          • Fallen Prime

            You’re not as fun as LargeAndReadyToCharge. I don’t feel like playing with you.

          • darksteel6

            nah, it’s way too much fun.

          • Well, it’s a start.

          • [email protected]

            WAAAAAHHH HE SAID FAGGOTRY WAAAAAAH

          • darksteel6

            dumbass

          • darksteel6

            That does not make it OK to use the word “faggotry” as an insult you dumbass.

            How about using a different word then that? Is it really that difficult for you?

          • [email protected]

            TRIGGERED

          • darksteel6

            moron

          • Fallen Prime

            Not changing the fact that you haven’t chilled.

          • darksteel6

            whatevs

        • LargeAndReadyToCharge

          this guy straight up wants to kill people and he takes it out over the internet I can respect that

          • darksteel6

            you talking about me fool?

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            I live somewhere different to where you do so no you can’t kill me. Cool it down it’s gonna be alright, there’s help out there.

          • darksteel6

            Never once said a word about trying to kill you, you’re not that important.

          • LargeAndReadyToCharge

            so you only kill the ‘important’ ones, that’s kinda creepy but I guess I can respect it.

          • darksteel6

            nope, stop trolling.