Watch Dogs 2 And The Steam Users Who Hate Black People

So, the main protagonist of the freshly announced Watch Dogs 2 is black. Big whoop, right? It’s not as common to see a black protagonist as it is a generic angry white man out to avenge a dead family member, but it’s far from unheard of, right?

CJ in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, James Heller in Prototype 2, Lee Everett from The Walking Dead, there are plenty of good examples, many of which have been able to appear without a huge outcry.

But of course, we now live in a world where “SJWs” are being blamed for anything even slightly deviating from the ubiquitous and the abundant. So it is that the appearance of a black protagonist in both Mafia III and Watch Dogs 2 have made some people upset. Some really miserable, perpetually offended people.

Edgy conspiracy theorists are mad because every one videogame out of hundreds has a black lead. It’s an overused word, but sometimes it’s apt – entitled is most certainly the perfect descriptor for them.

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Let’s take a “fun” trip to the Steam forums and see what users are saying.

MentholFox, in a thread titled “Shoehorned black character why can’t we be Aiden?” had this pearl of wisdom to throw at us.

Why Marcus and not Aiden, I don’t want to play as an affirmative action MC… Look at the demographics of San Fran it would be more plausible if I played as a homo or an asian than some random black dude. Considering they make up 6% of the population in SanFran fam

While of course there are plenty of people who argued against this pathetic outburst, some posters merrily joined in, such as Fly_Fucking_Low.exe, whose username reflects their approach to comedy.

Black people don’t know how to use technology, this story is already ♥♥♥♥ and doesn’t make any sense.

And of course, we couldn’t have a discussion about anything without someone throwing the word “cuck” around. Mysterion provides the obligatory misappropriation.

EMBRACE DIVERSITY, PREPARE YOUR CUCKSHED

Oh and here’s Skexer, who needs to be told something – if you’re worried that what you’re saying is going to make people call you a racist… you’re probably being racist.

It’s radiating the gaming industry and it doesn’t feel all to great, Rise of the Tomb Raider apparently changed Lara’s model because she looked too ‘sexy’, Mafia 3 just had to be about a black guy rising up against the Italian Mafia and most likely the racial bigotry.

It may be sublte propaganda, I just hope it doesn’t infest the plot too much. Don’t complain too much, or we’ll be called racists.

The thread goes on for 45 pages and it devolves into trolling and people being as offensive as they possibly can to “trigger” people. The final post before it got locked came from the everso charmingly named Dangerous Faggot.

Oh, I’m sure you have proof for that analysis? It’s actually the dindus who are the most racist towards white people, because they have an inferiority complex. Their race is the least developed despite being the oldest. They know that, which is why they commit so much crimes.

Black people in the USA are 13% of the population, but commit 54% of all homicides.
Source is FBI

On the frontpage we have a thread titled “Politically Corect Game?” and we can all appreciate the irony in Nefarious’ inability to spell “correct” correctly. Here’s what they had to say…

Why is the protagonist black in the latest games? Mafia 3 being an example but not only?

Death to political correctness and death to SJW.\

Erretter adds what I’m sure they believe is excellent observational humor to the discussion.

Ubisoft is genius! The game is about a person running around, causin chaos, is hated by everyone, is shooting People in the face without warning.

HELL! OF COURSE HE HAD TO BE BLACK!

Hazardous Duke set up another thread to air their grievances. In a post titled “Why do all the new games coming out have either Women or Black male leads?” our intrepid hero laments just how oppressed they are!

I reiterate the title of this post. Honestly this is getting ridiculous. Look at battlefield 1 now watch dogs and basically any other Ubisoft game that’s coming out.

♥♥♥♥ing SJW’s.

Here’s Coolsiideri presenting a classic argument that Status Quo Warriors love to trot out, where any diverse character exists just for the sake of political correctness. It’s an argument designed for someone who wants to believe they’ve won a debate but doesn’t want to put in any work to actually argue.

And of course they talk about hurt feelings too. From what I’ve seen, the most easily hurt and upset people are the angry white guys who flip out when they so much as see a black person or woman in a game.

You shouldn’t have minorities in a game just to represent minorities. You’re supposed to make a video game with good characters and stellar gameplay, not fill out some arbitary SJW checklist so that no ones feelings get hurt.

In the thread “Protagonist beeing black” FU Bloody, as well as making me think about bees, starts off their argument with literally the best disclaimer.

Im gonna start of by saying im not a Racist

Do we really need a black Main character. just as much as a female protagonist?
what’s your thoughs about this?

like more realistically the story should be about a big fat white guy who never leaves his chair or an Asian….

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And gfytfyt throws in their own little conspiracy theory to keep things spicy.

Because alot of cuckcompanies want to show how ‘right on’ they are by representing some stupid minority of a demographic that doesn’t represent the majority of their player base. Alot of it is propaganda, plain and simple. America..meh you can get away with it, but as i pointed above, demograhically, it doesn’t make sense. But europe is a big nono. It’s white. Pure and simple.

There’s a lot more in the forums, and it’s all pretty astounding stuff.

Of course, there’s no telling how much of it is trolling or poor attempts at comedy and how much of it is genuine, but given the Donald Trump avatars and the fact I’ve seen similar sentiments from many genuinely awful human beings, it barely matters because the difference is miniscule.

That the appearance of one black protagonist out of so many games causes this much uproar – even if half of it’s an attempt at a joke – is just kind of pitiful.

As always, the prevailing emotion I draw from these reactions is fear. This is the lashing out of scared boys who subscribe to the zero sum game and believe anybody else getting some representation is a direct removal of their own. The changing world is terrifying for them.

As I noted, there are plenty of Steam posters doing their best to argue against it and not be the dickheaded edgelords, but god damn is that a lot of dickheaded edgelords milling around.

The sheer avarice required to be so angry when a tiny handful of games don’t 100% cater to you and your background is on a level I don’t think I could ever conceive.

Still, there’s comfort in knowing that, as time goes on, it’s only going to get worse for them.

You can’t really stop this ball rolling, folks, and if you’re so sensitive and hurt over this, you’ll be in tears later down the line.

Themoonlightwolf1
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Themoonlightwolf1

Feels like the desperate last gasps of a dying age, terrified of change they lash out like wounded animals, failing to realize the fight was over a long time ago and all they’re doing is wasting the last of their energy flailing at air.

And for the not so hyperbolic, SQWs needs to be a thing.

Oskulock
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Oskulock

It’s alright when Rockstar does it, but when Ubishit does it it’s just because they want to push a racial sjw bullshit agenda.

Well i mean, according to everyone in /pol/ at least.

Ameno Sagiri
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Ameno Sagiri

“You shouldn’t have minorities in a game just to represent minorities. You’re supposed to make a video game with good characters and stellar gameplay, not fill out some arbitary SJW checklist so that no ones feelings get hurt.”

This might be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read. It’s the lead role in a game we don’t know everything about. The black character is far from some random background colored character that’s “just there to fill a checklist”.

Jim Sterling
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It’s an argument designed to win through sheer force of ignorance. Once you’ve decided somebody’s motive (which can neither truly be proven or disproven) and stick to that decision, you can’t “lose” and you don’t have to think critically about it.

gaytality
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gaytality

If you replace “minorities” with “white people” that dude’s sentence it becomes hilarious.

TheCaardvark
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I mean… I’m pretty European… And as a place, we’re definitley not pure white… There’ve been POC in Europe since before the middle ages, it’s only fair they get to show up in games. Plus isn’t the game set in San Fransisco? Isn’t that pretty far from Europe?

Xanco Gaming
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Xanco Gaming

Fucking Christ all shitting mighty… I’m glad some people have so much free time to bitch about anything that’s even in the slightest little thing – this isn’t even ‘progressive’… No doubt the same people who moan about this are the first ones to decry “CENSORSHUP” whilst demanding people change their games.

Fuckin’ SJWs innit?

I… I don’t even know…

bobthepetferret
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bobthepetferret

Aren’t these kinds of people the same people who usually rant about “respecting the creator’s vision” whenever someone criticises a thing they approve of?

Jim Sterling
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They apply that VERY selectively. They’re also the same crowd that decries censorship then tries to shut down anybody who disagrees with them on something.

Jamesworkshop
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Jamesworkshop

It’s on the same lines as people who advise about “not feeding the trolls” but then get very angry that anyone put them on an auto-block list so people could do just that.

Roman Cruz
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Roman Cruz

Because their lack of self-awareness prevents them from seeing that they are the trolls.

hardy83
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hardy83

They’ll use whatever excuse they can to justify their bigotry.
They’ll spout creative freedom when trying to force a developer to change something, or their blame the boogeyman (SJWs in this case) for conspiracy theory forcing this change.

Straw man and poorly thought out arguments are abundant with people who want to justify their hate.

Nel_Annette
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Nel_Annette

I just want a good game that improves on the original the way AC2 did to AC1, It looks fun. Though maybe it’s just because San Francisco/”anywhere in California” has always appealed to me. XD If anything, hate the characters because they kind of look like trendy hipster hackers, not because of whatever color they are. And even that’s barely anything to get upset over.

dubost
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dubost

I don’t get why this is even an issue nowadays… Like you said, it’s not even an unusual thing to have a black protagonist in videogames. It happens, not as often as it should, but it does – videogames aren’t Hollywood, at least. Why do these people suddenly became ‘angry’ with this? What is going on with the world that suddenly embraced this whole anti-anti-racism motto?

Njål Henrik Sand
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Njål Henrik Sand

I just hope the game is good and that the characters are well made.

Jamesworkshop
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Jamesworkshop

Oh, I’m sure you have proof for that analysis? It’s actually the dindus who are the most racist towards white people

He says, using a racist dog-whistle.

Matrim
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Matrim

I wouldn’t call “dindu” a dog whistle. It’s a straight up slur.

Carlos
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Carlos

Like, do certain gamers not want any diversity in their games then just angry white dude who lost his family?

Jim Sterling
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It’s fair to say that, given the evidence, some gamers genuinely do want the exact same thing over and over and over again.

Hell, just look at their vocabulary. They use the same handful of *words* constantly when trying to argue. They’re incapable of diversifying a damn thing.

Richard Cadman
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Richard Cadman

SQWs. Did Jim coin that or have I just missed that term milling around. Cos I love it.

Jim Sterling
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I started using it about two years ago and haven’t seen anybody else use it. I’m sure others have, but I didn’t get it from anybody else personally.

Luris
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Luris

Europe? White? Maybe in Sweden, but any former colonial power and/or latin country have a sizable part of “non-Caucasian” in their populations.

Rachel McVeigh
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Rachel McVeigh

I was thinking the same thing. Hell even Ireland has a sizable African population these days and there used to be so few nonwhites here that I’m pretty sure I could find out the name of the first black person to immigrate here.

Frank Martin
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Frank Martin

Sweden has muslim refugees who rape swedes and caused it to have the second highest rape rate next to Somalia. Google it.

Matrim
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Matrim

Uh, no. Sweden has a high rate of rape because 1) their definition of rape is one of the broadest in the world and 2) due to their egalitarian views on gender equality rapes are far more likely to be reported. America has about 1/3 the reported rapes of Sweden per capita, however it’s estimated that that only represents about 35% of rapes that occur in America. It has nothing to do with refugees, Muslim or otherwise.

Brendon Love
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Brendon Love

Sometimes it’s fun to imagine what an ‘anti-sjw’ version of Public Enemy’s Fight the Power would sound like. Because clearly these people are a put upon group that ‘the man’ likes to keep down with their somehow enforced diversity and acceptance.

Or maybe they’re just pillocks.

Nah, can’t be that.

David
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Why do we broadcast these trolls opinions as if it matters? You want trolls… give them a platform.

Unless you believe the VAST majority of gamers or people or whatever agree with these trolls, there’s little reason to give them the mic. Report and move on.

Gorbles
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Because all opinions matter. Their relative worth is, of course, up for debate.

But opinions matter because they give you an idea of the reaction to things in the world as it stands today. Hiding them under the rug just because they might be “trolls” is pretending they don’t exist.

David
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There’s this guy I know; he believes that Elvis Pressley caused 9/11. It’s his opinion… I’ll be right back, I need to write a blog post about his opinion quick.

Gorbles
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Yeah that literally has nothing to do with this article. Made-up people rarely do.

David
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Have you seen my point? It’s apparently gone missing…

Here’s what that has to do with the article – there’s always going to be racists, sexists, assholes, douchebags etc.

Should we REALLY care what they think? Should be give them a voice? Where does the power in their speech come from?

Being heard should be earned.

Gorbles
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I understand and yet reject your point completely. The fact that these people exist and will always apparently exist does not mean we shouldn’t talk about them.

We should care about what they think, because they’re paying consumers that have an effective vote in how our world is shaped.

David
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All 12 of them?

It’s like jousting with Windmills. For every troll you highlight, 12 more will be encouraged.

How about this, I’ve tried to explain my rationale for ignoring trolls – I’m just going to personally not care about them. You fight them, they fight back, vicious circle etc etc.

I’m just going to take my own advice. Who cares, go ahead.

Gorbles
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Scaremongering tactics rarely work, you know. If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t have replied. You wanted to give your arguments on why we shouldn’t engage with trolls – understandably. What’s less understandable is then your pretense that you don’t care as a way to disengage while appearing to be morally-superior. You care. You just don’t want to admit that your argument might not be the One True Way. Hiding things never works out. History has proven that. I’m not saying drag trolls around every chance you get. But calling them out when they attempt something Bad is a good way… Read more »
PowerSerg
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The difference is Elvis Pressley and crack pot theories don’t effect people in real life. Racism actively effects people in the world.

David
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Yeah, they do – when people see them. You can’t be offended by racists if they’re ignored, sidelined and NOT given a platform.

PowerSerg
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Lol, you mean like the racists who MURDER people all the time. Ignoring a bigot doesn’t stop people from being hurt. It doesn’t stop my friends from getting jumped because the color of their skin. Ignoring racism doesn’t stop it only helps enforce it. It allows racists to convert others to racists at worst. At best it lets racist do what they want unchecked.

gaytality
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gaytality

OPINIONS R DUMB, LISTEN TO MIIIIIINNE!

That’s you. That’s what you sound like.

ChaoticPesme
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ChaoticPesme

God, can’t we just not care together that Watch Dogs 2 is a thing ?

Bronek Reder
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Bronek Reder

These users remind me of Larfleeze. Anyway, to avoid this problem they could always just have a character creator.

ChaoticPesme
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ChaoticPesme

Ubisoft, making a character creator ? Don’t be silly !

Grim
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Grim

Hey, what about The Division? That had a whole 16 faces to choose from.

ChaoticPesme
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ChaoticPesme

I stand by what I said :p

Bennijin
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Bennijin

What problem?

Bronek Reder
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Bronek Reder

The annoying ass entitled bitch problem 😛

Bennijin
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Bennijin

Yeah, but a character creator to appease these entitled bitches won’t help.

Plus if they came up with one because of these racist wingnuts then wouldn’t that be whitewashing?

Bronek Reder
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Bronek Reder

No.

Ben Mitchell
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Ben Mitchell

It would since watch dogs games seem to have a story about the character, not the world or the player like games that do have character creation. wouldn’t it be weird to have an entire story about this blank slate you create and pour yourself into? where the story is always the same regardless of the character? I can also imagine a ubisoft made character creator having their hilarious character model glitches all over it.

Pete
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Pete

I am curious about the demographic of these *furious* people. Are they mostly Americans? Since they seems to be the majority to spout off this kind of rhetoric.

PowerSerg
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Racists are in every country but I am pretty sure most are American here.

PowerSerg
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Wow these people are utterly pathetic. Further proof that the game industry has pandering to straight white men so hard that they now some how feel like anything that isn’t white is an attack on them. Like how the fuck do they think people of another race feel playing nearly EVERY OTHER VIDEO GAME (developed in the west)? Like yo, it’s one game, one game you most likely would have shit on before it came out no matter what so why don’t you shut up? Like these are the people who think Japanese game protags are some how white that… Read more »
Jamesworkshop
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Jamesworkshop

this image sums up the argument

Matrim
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Matrim

That is fucking amazing

David
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“Further proof that the game industry has pandering to straight white men so hard that they now some how feel like anything that isn’t white is an attack on them.”

Are you suggesting that a dozen or so trolls represent all white men feeling entitled?

THIS is the damage broadcasting these trolls does – it makes ALL reasonable people look bad.

PowerSerg
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The games industry does pander to white men, if you don’t think so then it’s because they do it so much it seems normal. The game industry decided “you make the most money if you keep the white man happy.” It’s also run by a bunch of white men so they without even thinking about it often insert themselves exclusively into the games they develop. Pandering is still pandering no matter who they pander too. Like nearly every Ubisoft game is a White Male power fantasy. That doesn’t stop it from being good or bad but it doesn’t stop that… Read more »
David
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I said, “Are you suggesting that a dozen or so trolls represent all white men feeling entitled?”

Literally said NOTHING about the games industry.

PowerSerg
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I don’t know where you pulled that suggestion from. Many white men feel entitled if not a group of people who are rather found of gates wouldn’t still be roaming around pretending like anything is an attack on them. A lot of people can’t help but feel entitled, these may be the most extreme views but there is many degrees of other views.

David
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Look, we want diverse games right – we do. We’re getting them, more and more each day and that’s awesome. It’s happening with or without the kicking and screaming of fanbois, racists and assholes. Why must we concern ourselves with what they say – it’s obvious what they’re going to say is going to be offensive, backward and wrong. Why do this to ourselves? Articles like this only give you, apparently, and others who have been hurt by oppression more confirmation that an entire section of humanity, white cis degenerates, are fucking terrible. MOST of that portion of humanity are… Read more »
gaytality
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gaytality

So basically, when people talk about the racism they witness and experience, they’re bringing the racism upon themselves?

I’d like to see the math on that.

David
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Oh my god, that is not what I am saying at all. Jesus Christ – are you kidding me?

Fuck this.

PowerSerg
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You answered yourself

David
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Yeah, it’s a tragedy. We defeat oppression one day, only to replace it with another kind.

gaytality
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gaytality

Boy, you’re really working hard to find a reason to be offended by this. I don’t think anyone said anything about “all white men”.

David
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And you needed very little to be offended apparently – why don’t you find my other posts in this section and get snippy with them.

Time’s a’wasting.

gaytality
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gaytality

I’m not offended, bruh. I’m intrigued.

And I’m gettin’ to your other posts. There’s plenty of me to go around.

David
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Intrigued?

Long story short.

You want to heal oppression? Stop finding totem racists to represent large swathes of people who are actually stoked that progress is happening. Then when the solution is close to being solved, we’ve ended oppression and not merely swung the pendulum or created a new problem.

gaytality
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gaytality

That’s a lot of lecturing you’re doing just to tell people to “shutUP about racism aready!”

David
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I feel as if you’re purposefully looking past what I’m saying, to focus in on a sliver of something you can feel offended by. So I’ll spell it out: Talking about racism good. Listening to racism bad. Trolls, in video games, saying stupid shit on the Steam forums pales in comparison to the social injustices and systemic racism. The devs have a black protagonist in this game – that’s a win. Trolls are getting a platform for their hate speech – that’s a loss. I honestly hope me explaining my position doesn’t come off as a lecture. You said you… Read more »
gaytality
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gaytality

I think we should let people who deal and talk about with the effects of systemic racism handle the way they see fit. You don’t add anything by suggesting people focus on what YOU think they should.

As a black gamer, I personally think it’s interesting to see how racism effects in the gaming community. I like to point out the absurd and mock it mercilessly, because that’s how I deal with systemic racism.

What makes you the arbiter of how others deal with oppression?

David
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GREAT! That’s amazing. Mocking this is awesome. But I notice a lot of people in this thread ACTUALLY using this to justify their bias’ as if these dicks represent all gamers or white cis men or whatever their bugbear is..

But honestly, I’m done – anything I say here is being taken in the WORST possible light and the benefit of the doubt is NOT offered and my deep desire to do something I hope heals is me “lecturing” or “telling people how to act” or “finding a way to be offended”.

You can’t win, so why try.

gaytality
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gaytality

“But I notice a lot of people in this thread ACTUALLY using this to justify their bias’ as if these dicks represent all gamers or white cis men or whatever their bugbear is..”

Like who?

You’ll forgive me, but the “not all whitecicmen” thing is used pretty frequently to derail conversation and divert all attention to “white male victims”. Seriously, any time racism is discussed online, someone comes in and interprets the discussion as an attack on “all whatever whoevers”.

David
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You’re still calling it a lecture as if I’m pretending to be higher than you in what I call our conversation. Again, I’m so sorry that this engagement has been so demeaning to you.

I’ll not respond for fear of hurting your sensibilities.

gaytality
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gaytality

*eyeroll* What a limp dick way to flounce!

David
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If I reply, it’s lecturing. If I don’t, it’s limp dick.

So what the hell do you want? You’re right, I’m wrong. You’re on the right side of history, I’m a typical white cis male.

gaytality
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gaytality

What’s wrong with being a typical white cis male?

You can be a cool bro who listens to your fellow gamers about the kinds of racism they face in the community AND you can not take their conversation about said racism personally and make it all about you. It actually takes considerably less effort to do than what you’re doing now.

Again, I’d like to see who actually said anything about “all white cis blah blah bhargl”. If anyone implied that, they’re wrong and they’re assholes. I just haven’t seen anyone do that myself. Who did?

David
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Now who’s lecturing, and being a bit condescending. I’m not taking it personally – I’m expressing a concern that in our fight to destroy prejudice and oppression, that we’re actually just going to create “acceptable” forms of prejudice. And articles like this justify laying the foundations for that ion my opinion. Honestly, I’d listen to my fellow gamers (I take it you’re a gamer too) about the racism they experience, but from a young age (being bullied) I learned that reacting to bullies give them the validation they’re looking for to continue bullying. In other words, I will listen to… Read more »
gaytality
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gaytality
When we don’t listen to racists, they might just become president. Racism is a thing to be challenged, everywhere. Like all bad ideas. I get the drive to want people to move past it. It’s a real uncomfortable subject. But for a lot of people, not talking about it doesn’t make it go away. Not talking about it is what perpetuates the cycle. I get that it’s tempting to tell people to pick their battles, but I don’t think it’s up to you to decide that for them. This kind of racism is something that you don’t or ever will… Read more »
David
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God, I’m not saying move past it. I’m so over this conversation. It’s like I’ll say, “I don’t think children should cross the road without supervision” and you’ll say “But why do you hate children?” Stop putting words in my mouth or sentiment to my words that aren’t there: For example: – OF COURSE RACISM SHOULD BE CHALLENGED! (Never said is shouldn’t) – I DON’T WANT PEOPLE TO MOVE PAST IT! (Never said they should move past racism) – RACISM ISN’T AN UNCOMFORTABLE SUBJECT! (I’m talking about it right; it’s uncomfortable when people insist on putting words in your mouth)… Read more »
gaytality
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gaytality
Wow, dude. Have you never had a conversation about racism that was uncomfortable? Condolences, dude. You lectured (sorry, I know that word triggers you, but it’s entirely accurate) me on how to “heal oppression”. Your words. How is that not acting as though you’re in a position to tell people how to handle racism? You’re telling people how to deal with oppression while that very same oppression continues to benefit you. Bad form, dude. – OF COURSE RACISM SHOULD BE CHALLENGED! Okay. That’s what this article is doing. I dunno what your problem with it is. – I DON’T WANT… Read more »
David
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When I say something, it’s my opinion on the subject – not a public declaration that my way is the true and just way forward. Thanks for the misrepresentation. Why should talking about racism be uncomfortable? The only thing in our conversation is your not understanding the concept of opinions versus fact. When I say, we should ignore trolls and focus on hardcore, nefarious racism, I’m not saying – hey, I’m right, you’re wrong, do this. See, in the ancient times of pre-1999, there used to be this concept that a person can share an opinion openly, without prescribing what… Read more »
gaytality
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gaytality

*eyeroll* What a limp-dick way to flounce.

See, I think you can’t actually find an instance here when someone said “this fuckery represents all white, cis gamer dudes”. I mean, isn’t Jim Sterling all of those things? You’re needlessly making a conversation about the kinds of inequalities *other* people face about you and your feelings. Chill out, dude. If you’re not the white, cis whatever whatever that’s engaging in this bullshit, the we’re not talking about you.

David
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Oh boy – you’ve giving me a lot of work to do; here goes: Jim himself: “They apply that VERY selectively. They’re also the same crowd that decries censorship then tries to shut down anybody who disagrees with them on something.” These people do THOSE things – so if you’re against censorship, you’re with these guys. “Just goes to show how long of a way we still have to go with regards to receptiveness.” These trolls are evidence of a bigger problem that we must fight, rather than a small % of idiots looking to get a rise out of… Read more »
gaytality
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gaytality
Whoo boy! Your first example is reaching so hard it makes it tough for me to even bother with the rest. “They’re also the same crowd that decries censorship then tries to shut down anybody who disagrees with them on something.” He’s not lumping those cretins in with people who oppose censorship. He’s lumping them in with those who try to shut things down because they don’t like them. The kind of behavior that, I think you’ll agree, stands in opposition to a fight for censorship. The second point doesn’t really say anything about “all white men” either, so you’re… Read more »
David
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I guess I’ll just repeat this:

Talking about racism good.
Listening to racism bad.

The devs have a black protagonist in this game – that’s a win.
Trolls are getting a platform for their hate speech – that’s a loss.

gaytality
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gaytality

Who’s loss? I think it’s amusing! I think we should mock racism everywhere.

Socialist Cubone
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Socialist Cubone

You know these “trolls” basically just staged a takeover of the Republican party a few weeks ago, right?

StarTsurugi
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StarTsurugi

I can’t believe this is even an issue…
And I bet these guys loved GTA San Andreas.

PowerSerg
Guest

See it’s okay for Black People to be racial sterotypes but that is it.

StarTsurugi
Guest
StarTsurugi

I think people would still complain if it was released in this day and age.

PowerSerg
Guest

Perhaps, something straight up racist and they start calling it an sjw game. Nintendo releases a new Metroid “guess Nintendo is a bunch of SJWs for having a game with a girl”

StarTsurugi
Guest
StarTsurugi

Nintendo is more of the opposite sadly.

Jake Gale
Guest
Jake Gale

So I played GTA San Andreas back in the day and played GTA 5 when it came out as well. I think CJ and Franklin Clinton are 2 of my favorite characters that I have played in games. Who gives a shit what race the person is. As long as they aren’t all broody and unrelatable and depressing I really don’t care.

Astralfury
Guest
Astralfury

I am just horrified that someone in the world wanted more of Aiden.

Sapphire Crook
Guest
Sapphire Crook

I’d like to think of that as the “McDonalds Argument”.
You don’t go to McDonalds because you want good food, it’s because you want a McBurger. You want comfort and familiarity, not something worthwhile.

MrInsecure
Guest
MrInsecure

BUT HE WAS SO ICONIC

(what did he look like again?)

don jon
Guest
don jon

like a creepy uncle

TheHoundHalf
Guest
TheHoundHalf

He was a walking cap.

Hundred percent sure.

Aidan Long
Guest
Aidan Long

I thought he was a trench coat and hat that gained sentience.

It’d at least be more interesting than the real thing!

Barl0we
Guest
Barl0we

AND a mask, don’t forget that 😛

Vaughan MacDonald
Guest
Vaughan MacDonald

….. Woooooow.

Vaughan MacDonald
Guest
Vaughan MacDonald

Hah! Gotta love the guy who starts with “I’m not racist” then goes on to basically say “I don’t wanna play as the darky!”

Lewis Cowen
Guest
Lewis Cowen

‘cuckcompanies’? Wow, really missed the oppurtunity for ‘cuckpanies’.
People like this annoy me.

Grim
Guest
Grim

You’re expecting a level of wit (not that it would even be especially witty) that simply isn’t there.

Jesse Helmfall
Guest
Jesse Helmfall

The SJWs have made it so that a video game about a black guy causes the publisher’s wife to cheat on it. Corporations are cucks, my friend.

H.P. Lovelock
Guest
H.P. Lovelock

Thank god for you Jim. Thank god for you!

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