Yooka-Laylee Review – Yooka-Failee

Party like it’s 1998!

Developer: Playtonic Games
Publisher: Playtonic Games
Format: PC, PS4, Switch, Xbox One (reviewed)
Released: April 11, 2017
Copy provided by publisher
Reviewer contributed to Kickstarter

If there’s one thing that can be said in Yooka-Laylee‘s favor, it’s that Playtonic absolutely nailed the creation of a late 90s 3D mascot platformer.

Unfortunately, I do not mean that as a compliment.

Retro experiences are all very well and good, but while a sidescrolling 16-bit experience can be recreated authentically with little issue, the early years of 3D gameplay were riddled with troubles – developers hadn’t yet worked out how third-person cameras should work, and the intricate jumping challenges found in earlier software were often recreated with annoying results thanks to inferior controls and archaic platforming that stumbled through a whole new dimension.

It’s often hard to know where you’re going to land while jumping in a 3D space and old school level design couldn’t deal with it, with moving platforms and tricky chasms that simply refused to account for the shift in player perspective. From Mario 64 to Crash Bandicoot, there were plenty of control issues as well. Subtlety of movement wasn’t a strong suit of early 3D mascot platforms, which made navigating narrow ledges a pain.

Characters would turn with the wild swing of an axe murderer, the very slightest nudge of the controller could see them jerk forward unpredictably, and generally it was a chaotic shitshow. When you take off the rose-tinted spectacles, you find that even the classic platformers of the era have tended to age poorly and were often littered with frustrating problems even back when they first came out.

This is to be expected in the toothing phase of what were, back then, very new concepts and unique problems that would take years to tackle.

Many solutions arose in the decades since Gex and Croc were relevant reptiles, yet sadly an all-new lizard (with his racist bat friend) is here with a game that decided none of those solutions should be implemented.

With its dated mechanics, horrific camera, and awful platforming controls, Yooka-Laylee is the very embodiment of nostalgia gone wrong – a faithful recreation of a 1998 experience without any consideration or concessions made for the many advances in gameplay that have occurred since then.

I initially decided to run my review of Yooka-Laylee without a score because I found it so utterly unbearable to play. This would have been the third time in twelve years I’ve ever done this, putting Yooka-Laylee in the same bracket as Velvet Assassin and Knights Contract, two other games so archaic and poorly designed I refused to put up with their shit.

However, I powered through to at least see all the worlds on offer, a task rendered difficult only by the horrendous hub world design that makes the simple act of finding levels difficult due to obscure, sometimes bizarre placement. I don’t think I’ve seen a hub world so poorly executed before – it’s almost like they wanted it to feel like a Metroidvania map with its shortcuts and intertwining corridors, but it’s just a big steaming mess.

After forcing myself to keep playing, it turned out I’d almost given up at the good stages – the initial two worlds (the ones marketing have been showing more than anything) are practical masterclasses in level creation compared to the unimaginative wreckage that waits beyond.

By design, you can access new worlds rather simply once their entrances have been discovered. You don’t need many collectibles to unlock them, nor to upgrade them with expanded areas that create further exploration and add more pickups. If you’ll want to face the final boss, you’ve got a lot of collecting to do, however, and I’ll say quite cheerfully that I am not spending another second in any of these ghastly environments.

The simple act of moving Yooka around the world is unpleasant. His clumsy, stiffly animated stumbling throughout the world is visually unfortunate and interactively awkward. As the player deals with this, they’re locked in eternal combat with the camera which pretty much does its own thing and is not particularly interested in helping the player advance across haphazardly strewn floating blocks and other trite hurdles.

Combat is brainless, consisting of tapping a single button while enemies walk thoughtlessly into your attacks. Sometimes you’ll not connect with an attack and take damage just because of some reasons. Yooka-Laylee can be quite arbitrary like that.

The meat of the game is Banjo-Kazooie remade, which most people were expecting. It is quite literally that.

It’s a collect-a-thon in which you travel to “unique” worlds and solve puzzles or uncover secrets to earn enough glorified keys to unlock additional worlds. In this case, the asspull collectibles are Pagies, bits of a magical book that came loose after the tome was stolen by Capital B – an evil capitalist who is a bee, you see.

You know the drill if you’ve ever played a late 90s platformer. Pagies are Stars from Mario 64, the things you keep visiting worlds to unlock to so you can visit fresher worlds. Except, y’know, Stars were fun to get.

Additionally, the game is drowning in Quillies, or Quills, or whatever. They’re more contrived bits of magical bullshit you pick up so you can buy new moves from Trowzer the snake (he’s named after a penis).

Some of these moves are crucial to acquiring new Pagies, although the game doesn’t always tell you what moves are needed and when. In fact, it might make you navigate intricate and irritating jumping sections to get to your goal… only to find out you don’t have some as-yet unknown power and will have to repeat everything later. Yooka-Laylee loves pulling this snide little stunt on its players.

Many of the puzzles are tricky not because they’ve been designed to be, but because the game is so terrible at visual communication. Sometimes the puzzles are so poorly placed or conceived you’re not even sure what the puzzle is supposed to be.

This is to say nothing of the awful minigames, none of which feel particularly optional since they all award Pagies. There are several “retro” arcade games that couldn’t even be bothered to use new character models to make anything look retro and take the form of piss-poor racing games or shooters. I don’t know why creating games that actually looked and felt like retro games was too big an ask for Playtonic, but it’s jarring (and creatively barren) to feature a bunch of “arcade” games that look just like the regular game.

Don’t get me started on the minecart rides, which feel almost arbitrary in how poorly placed the enemies and traps are, or the transformations in which Yooka and Laylee combine to form an animal or vehicle that’s even more of a pain in the ass to maneuver than they are.

All of the minigames and transformations feature worse controls than regular platforming – something that shouldn’t be possible – and not one of them has proven to be slightly enjoyable.

Sometimes the game can’t even be bothered to be a game and instead forces a memory quiz on the player, demanding they answer nonsense questions about the things they’ve picked up and characters they’ve met. It tries to make this okay by pointing out it’s a lazy and cheap bit of content padding… but that doesn’t save it from being what it is.

While regular platforming, puzzles, and minigames ruin your day, you’re also having to deal with the dialog noises because this is a game that assaults the psyche on all possible levels. It was never really funny when Banjo-Kazooie replaced talking with grating grunts and moans, but in Yooka-Laylee it’s a fucking nightmare.

Unlike The Legend of Zelda, where one or two noises are enough to get the point across, dialog sections in Yooka-Laylee insist that characters bark and wheeze and groan constantly while talking – every syllable needs an atrocious bloody racket. Some of the cacophony can thankfully be skipped, but not all of it.

Expect to hear plenty of hacking, snorting, and sneering as characters rattle off droll in-jokes and self-references to the point of saturation.

Also, Yooka himself sounds like a total fucking pervert every time he “speaks.” It’s actually quite distressing.

The dialog as written is only slightly less painful with terrible jokes that undeservedly throw shade at other games and Laylee’s “witty” quips routinely insulting the looks of any creature that isn’t her, often using derogatory nicknames based on their appearance. She’ll toss out slurs against snakes, shopping carts, clouds, she doesn’t care. Laylee is a complete racist, and as facetious as I’m being here, she really does come off as a hateful, nasty, thoroughly unlikable little bastard.

Jokes are often repeated and fall firmly into cringe territory with hamfisted fourth-wall breaks and mockery of modern game design – things that could work in a better game, one that was well designed enough to get away with mocking things, or one that’s at least funny when it does so.

Yooka-Laylee is not funny. In fact, as someone who backed it, I can safely say it’s a fucking disaster.

While it’s bright and colorful, the game’s choppy framerate and wonky physics mitigate any pleasure one might derive from the graphics. Stages aren’t particularly detailed in their design, featuring lots of basic blocks, platforms, and ramps, while characters themselves are mildly endearing if somewhat forgettable. It’s the kind of game that looks far better in screenshots than when viewed in motion.

About the only truly competent work on display is the music, which at least does a great job of balancing nostalgia with quality.

Those desperate for a mascot platformer in Rare’s old style might be able to love this, but frankly if you need to collect things in a cutesy animal world that badly, just play Snake Pass. It’s far better.

Yooka-Laylee is a game out of time, clinging so desperately to past glories it doesn’t seem to understand the Earth kept spinning after the N64 was discontinued. It’s everything wrong about the formative years of 3D platforming and it somehow retained none of what made the genre’s highlights endure.

Yooka-Laylee is, in a word, rubbish.

2/10
Bad

 

  • geekscanbecool

    Holy mother of the gaming Gods. Incoming shit storm. Lets get to the Winchester and wait till this blows over.

    • HelixShade

      Already building my Fallout Shelter. How long before the DDOS’ing?

      • It’s already happening!

        • Matrim

          It’s not working too well if it is

    • TheDeadFellow

      YEEEEAAAAH BOYEEEEE!

  • MeriwetherMalodor

    Oh my god….

  • Rui

    I’m gonna hackSZ this shiety WEBSITE! SCRIPT KIDDIES! ATTACCCCCCCKKKK!

    /s

  • Bidoof

    Wonder why you didnt like it but other websites gave it a 9/10 seems to be a decisive game

    • Seth Davies

      This is my favorite comment. +1

    • Polygon: 5.5/10
      IGN: 7/10

      Where are these 9/10s?

      • Alex

        Escapist – 9/10
        Games Machine – 8.5/10
        Forbes – 8/10
        GameInformer – 8/10
        Hobby Consolas – 8.7/10
        Areajugones – 9/10

        • The Escapist doesn’t use a 1-10 scale.

          • Piratepoots

            I think we’re just splitting hairs, here. It got a 4.5/5 stars according to their review. That’s basically a 9/10…

    • Gary Jones

      It’s possible that others like it for the same reason that Jim doesn’t. That it is a pure throwback to early 3D platformers with little of the advancements made to the genre since then.

      • E1ite Yoshi

        Actually from what I’ve seen the Escapist is the only site I’ve seen give a 9/10 on the game.

  • the_atm

    Wow! I was expecting a 5, you know average… not a 2. A 2 is like… man… I’m actually heart broken

    • I know, right? I actually felt kinda deflated reading it. I love Jim, so seeing a 2/10. Borderline unplayable? Worse than “Umbrella Corps?” Worse than “Devil’s Third” and “Wander” and all the other stuff like “Wander” ?

      THAT is what hurt me. To hear that a game is worse than a puchline like .Wander

  • ASophisticatedCourier

    WILDCARD

  • Wow. I honestly thought the game looked promising, but WOW.

    This review will piss off a LOT of people, but fortunately, I doubt it’ll reach the Zelda review levels of overreaction.

    • Harry Sdt Gainer

      I’m still confused as to why another person not liking a game I like would piss people off, I mean, I’m probably going to buy this game and if I like it, so to fuck if a reviewer doesn’t? That being said, it does sound pretty bad. In saying that, I hated Ocarina of time, so I’m used to being a video game pariah.

      • E1ite Yoshi

        Cause of Jim’s rep. While he has a lot of credibility with his reviews he tends to go very radical on some of them. It’s not to that he’s wrong or anything, but it does help him to stand out amongst other reviewers. That being said this is both a good and a bad thing.

  • Barnacle_Britches

    This gives me a sad

  • Battenberg

    Well shit Jim, you’ve done it now.
    I get it though, I still remember what a nightmare 3d was back in the PS1 days.
    Lara Croft throwing herself into an abyss because the analog stick was 2 degrees off.
    Didn’t expect all the other issues though, especially the racist sidekick.

    Can’t say I’ll go in for this one if this what I have to look forward to.
    A bit of a disappointment if I’m honest, I had high hopes before.
    Reviewers, huh, thank God for them saving us from wasting our time and money.
    Don’t forget to thank God for Jim too.

  • Scott Rivers

    First M#9, now this. Dear oh dear. Almost makes me fear for Shenmue III and Bloodstained.

    • darksteel6

      Not worried about Shenmue 3 so much because i’m sure Sony will have a good handle on it, Bloodstained I agree though, I don’t see that game being very good at all.

      • whiskytangofoxtrot

        Sony published No Man’s Sky.

        • darksteel6

          Aside from that they have a pretty good track record though, and considering the first two games were pretty good, I don’t see any reason to worry about part 3.

  • Thomas Ward

    Hold on a tic, they can have a racist bat but not a “racist” guy voicing a character in their game?

    PRIORITIES!

    • HelixShade

      From the sounds of things, removing JonTron from the game turned out to be a service to him it seems.

    • It’s almost like the bat is FICTION.

      Your comment is like saying “so they can have a murdering character, but not a murdering guy voicing a character in their game? PRIORITIES!”

      • Thomas Ward

        Eh?

    • Benj

      Technically a speciesist bat.

  • Shadowstrike

    Fair review

    Jon will be avenged.

    • I think you’ll find Jim not having much sympathy with Jon. And there’s nothing to “avenge”. Jon being dropped from the game was a *consequence* of something he’d done.

      • Shadowstrike

        Jon spoke the truth and was removed for no legitimate reasons. They can hold this L just like mighty no.9 did.

        • MeriwetherMalodor

          Jon is a racist bigot and so are you if you’re defending him.

          • Shadowstrike

            Please point to which race he hates I beg you to say black.

          • Fallen Prime

            Well, there was ONE comment he made about them, but most of the rest were directed towards immigrants.

            Including a statement that “brown people” assimilating into our culture is bad for the gene pool.

          • Anton

            To be fair, Jon is of non-white heritage, and I do agree that integrating him into the gene pool is a bad thing….. so he’s at least 1/7billion correct.

          • darksteel6

            racist motherfucker

        • Jon claimed immigrants “taint the gene pool.” HE is the mixed race child of immigrants himself! So you can bugger right off with your racist BS. Companies don’t have to endorse or hire people they don’t want to.

    • Hypothetically:

      Would you rather he be in a bad game instead?

  • Mateusz Gołąb

    I totally don’t agree with your opinion. Finished the game. For me it’s one of the best retro gaming experiences in years. Gave it 9/10.

  • Nicholas Walton

    Does this review mean that for people who actually enjoy the controls/camera of early 3d platformers (Banjo Kazooie, Mario 64, Spyro, etc.) this will probably be pretty good? Because most of your complaint seems to be the core mechanics of the game not agreeing with you.

    • Mateusz Gołąb

      Yeah. Yooka-Laylee is basically Banjo Kazooie 3 we waited for.

    • Niels Peter Sjørslev

      Here is my very short review of the game
      If you still think old school 3d platformers like banjo kazooie or spyro are fun today
      You will probably like it

      • Fallen Prime

        I do still very much enjoy those games, yes.

        Never did beat the original Spyro. I should take some time out when the semester’s up.

        • Fen

          The original Spyro has aged really badly, imo. The second and third still (more or less) hold up, I think, but the first … man. The controls were not nice going back to it, and collecting gems feels awkward.

          • Yes, I remember going back to Spyro a few years ago and the controls weren’t very good. However, I quickly readjusted. I’d imagine it’s much trickier to play a game with not so great controls when you play multiple games at once, especially if they have non-standard controls and they’re within the same genre.

          • Mr Ixolite

            It may be partly nostalgia, but I never took issue with Spyros controls either, and the environments were big enough to give your movement wide berths. My lack of problems is possibly also due to having games like Ape Escape (which is great!), Croc, Gex and (urrrgh) Rascal to compare it to.

            I always appreciated how inertia-free Crash and Spyro mostly were; Even when charging around at full speed, I never felt Spyro went anywhere I didn’t want, and that I always had the option of instantly stopping and heading off in another direction – commited jumps (not that way Mario, nooooo) are the bane of my existence in platformers. Spyro 1 remains my favourite in the series. because it gave the most pure platforming experience, where its sequels diluted it with minigames galore.

          • Oh, yeah, I hate committed jumps in platformers, especially when they give you a really big jumps. I can understand lunges being committed and stuff but when I’m falling I wanna steer. Even if it isn’t realistic, it gives the player more control and that’s always good.

            Although I do like Spyro 1, I’ll always have a soft spot for Year of the Dragon, if only because I used to farm lives for my mom when I was a kid and I loved it. Just run around in the hub world endlessly. It was fun just doing that. Plus the controls felt better for me and the game was gorgeous. I love cartoony styles.

          • GrimmyReaper

            I personally think Spyro 1 holds up okay, but I definitely see what you mean. The camera is really wonky, the controls feel kinda slippery and I agree that the gem collecting is flawed. I think it’s because you need to be way closer to the gems than in 2 or 3. Kinda defeats the purpose of having a dragonfly for collecting nearby gems.

            For my money though, I think Spyro 1 aged better than Crash 1.

            Could be my nostalgia speaking ofcourse xD Cause man I sure do love Spyro Trilogy and Crash 2 and 3.

      • Bionichute

        man, i’ve played the original spyro to completion like 5 times at this point, i’ll probably love yooka laylee

      • SmaMan

        You know what I love and what I’ve gotten used to most reviewers hating? Arcadey side-scrolling beat ’em ups.

        You just gotta know when to take it with a personal grain of salt.

        • Carl Butcher

          Speaking as someone else who doesn’t really “get” those sorts of games, good on you. My opinion will almost always be that they’re dull and mindless (feel free to prove me wrong if you want to discuss that separately) so were I a critic I would probably score them low as well- but on the flip side I wish I shared your enthusiasm because enjoying things is the secret to happiness. 🙂

      • Ketsuban

        That’s not the impression I get from lines like “It’s everything
        wrong about the formative years of 3D platforming and it
        somehow retained none of what made the genre’s highlights endure” –
        that is to say, even for people who like Banjo-Kazooie it’s a
        disappointment.

        • Niels Peter Sjørslev

          Listen what I wrote was my opinion
          feel free to disagree

        • qorl123

          He also said they nailed the feeling of late 90s platformer. To him, thats not good. To others, thats good.

    • CaitSeith

      Congratulations! You have learned how to use reviews constructively! I’m serious. One person’s junk is another person’s treasure.

      • Adam Robert Sherman

        Indeed. Look at Brad Jones and Caligula. He read Ebert’s review panning the film, was curious what the hubbub was about, and it became his favorite movie.

    • E1ite Yoshi

      It’s not just Jim’s review that has been doing this. A vast majority of reviews, IGN and Gamespot have all stated this same thing. Except Jim Sterling and the other sites excluding Kotaku , Polygon, IGN, and GameSpot are all well respected around the reviewing community.

      • Harvester of Sorrow

        nobody respects Sterling except complete losers so…

      • qorl123

        Kotaku and the rest seem decent enough to me when it comes to reviews themselves

        • E1ite Yoshi

          I was referring to the ones that get universally panned on. I’m not like that.

    • needless15

      Gamespot gave my favorite game of all time 4/10. I bought it after reading that review and loved every second of it. That was a great review, because it explained the game perfectly and told what was wrong in the reviewer’s opinion.

      When things are laid out that finely it’s not hard to form your own opinion.

      • CaptainDustTree

        Oh man, that reminds me of GamePro’s Xenogears review, a game I loved dearly. I think it got a 1/5.

      • DeathSwagga

        What game?

        • needless15

          It was the Scratches review. The actual score is 3.9 and the reviewer says it’s dull and nothing happens. He is mostly right, but in my opinion he reaches a wrong conclusion.

    • Al Buns

      If you enjoy games with bad camera and poor controls than yes. N64 games has these issues, which is why I had a PSX growing up and never cared for Mario 64. Never bothered playing Banjo.

    • Randell Hunt

      Game is likely closer to a 5/10 honestly than a 2/10. If you LOVE those old games and nostalgia has such a hold on you that they are not flawed but you consider them to be gems even by modern standards….then you should buy Yooka-Laylee.

      It’s got large flaws that a modern game shouldn’t have, even one attempting to re-catch old magic, but it’s not as bad as Jim says. He prolly lost those 3 additional points when he had to force himself to play the rest of the game for the sake of seeing the other levels.

      That being said, It’s not something anyone not hung up on nostalgia should consider purchasing. Same way I remember QWOP or Excitebike fondly but those are not good games by modern standards.

  • Mark Patten

    And I backed it to the point of getting a digital copy. Goes to show that pedigree isn’t everything.

    Only hope that Indivisible turns out alright considering all the hype tumblr drummed up to get it funded on time.

    • i2Chep

      Lab Zero are to be trusted.

      • Mark Patten

        I thought the original minds behind Banjo Kazooie were to be trusted, hence why I gave them my money before they shat the bed.

        • i2Chep

          Lab Zero have proven themselves in the modern market to be fair.

  • Fray Joker

    Oh. That hurts.

  • Stephen Mc Devitt

    I has a sense of dread from last week’s Podquisition on likely framerate but such oh fuck! Mighty No. 9, now Yooka-Laylee? What’s next? Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night? All these Kickstarter games were suppose to revive niche genres. Now the AAA industry will look at them and say that these genres still don’t sell.

    Now I worry about Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy.

    • You don’t have to, really. Sony knows what they’re doing, if R&C is anything to go by. I mean, Ratchet and Clank had its flaws, but it was not garbage and its problems were mainly linked to the movie.

      • galactix100

        That’s down to the devs not Sony.

        • Yeah, of course, it’s just that Sony has a tight grip on the development process.

          • CaitSeith

            Wasn’t people betting on that for No Man’s Sky too?

      • Rachel McVeigh

        The key thing Ratchet and Clank did was to take into account all of the progress that game development and the series had made since the release of the first one. So while it was heavily tied into the first game from a nostalgia pov, it had gameplay elements from new games in the series that were simply better and vastly improved controls.

        It’s a pity playtonic didn’t take note of that.

        • My comment was really about worries regarding Crash Bandicoot, from the video it seems that it’s fine.

      • Stephen Mc Devitt

        Unlike Comcept and Playtonic, Insomniac was still making R&C games through out the PS3-era, so they were pretty up to date. Plus the last one Nexus came out 3 years before the last one.

        You can argue Vicarious Vision has enough grasp since they were constantly making Skylander games alongside Toys for Bob but a platformer is different from a dungeon crawler.

    • Heather Hughes

      I backed Bloodstained and things like this make me nervous. Then again, I also backed Chime Sharp. That one already released and was quite good, so there are positive examples out there.

  • Terriosaurus Hex

    Oh shit.

    Taaaaaaake COOOOVEEEEEERRRRRR!!!

    *Dives out a nearby window*

  • Gary Jones

    I do expect people are going to like it for the exact same reason that Jim doesn’t.

    The game is a throwback to early 3D platformers with little consideration to the advancements the genre has made in the years since.

  • Fallen Prime

    Screw it. I’m already getting a code, per the pledge goal I went for. I have put a lot of faith into this, and I’ll see whether I feel it’s been rewarded. Though your review gives me… QUITE a bit of pause, this is one time where I don’t want to have it color my own impression too much.

    Sorry, I fully admit it’s the nostalgia blinds, coupled with the money I put into it. This game didn’t have NEARLY as troubled a production at MN9, so I still hold out some naive hope.

    But thanks for your input. Yours is an opinion I trust above almost anyone else’s in this industry, even and especially when it conflicts with my own or betrays my hopes for a game.

    • InfamousDS

      Do as I did with FFXV: Let only what you know firsthand be your guiding light. The game has a demo, which I assume you played, and if you liked it than that should be enough.
      I like the gibberish and nonsense noises. I have a relatively easy-to-please sense of humor when I’m not in a bad mood. I need a relatively stupid game after weeks of Zelda making me wring my hands at work in frustration before drooling at it while I play.

  • Anton

    Well, this sucks…. I had really high hopes for some good nineties nostalgia with this.

  • Niels Peter Sjørslev

    I think this game is only gonna appeal to people who still really like 3d platformers
    (like myself)

  • artisticMink

    What I’ve gathered from coverage and reviews so far is, that it is pretty medicore for the most part. Hadn’t had the impression that it was that horrible.

    But then, i guess the biggest part of the experience is determined by the controls either clicking with ya or not.

  • Bradley Newson

    INCOMING DDOS ATTACK

    • Took me like 7 tries to get to this review in the first place, so you were right on the money there.

  • Chris Orser

    Maybe I’m mis-remembering your preview from months ago, but I never got the impression the controls were terrible watching that video. Oh well, disappointing since I really liked Mario 64 back in the day and my wife is aces at Banjo-Kazooie

  • Weresquirrel

    Damning words indeed. Kind of a contrast to the only other review I’ve seen which rated it highly. Oh well. Since I backed it, I’m already due to receive a copy. I’ll make my own mind up when it comes. In the mean time, the only sensible level headed thing to do is to throw a shit-fit.

  • Pietro Spina

    Maybe the score is too harsh, but the text says the truth. Cluncky controls and camera really detract from the overall experience that is, itself, not so good due to disjointed chellenges and wavering design.

  • Bionichute

    I find this review incredibly interesting, because it really does show how different opinions can be. Jim has made it very clear throughout his years that he dislikes collectathon games a lot… but people who like those games are basically who this is aimed at.

    Jim doesn’t like to be objective in his reviews either, he’s made a point of that too. This is very clearly his opinion, and man, I can respect that. Not everybody can like everything. But a lot of people I’ve seen DO like this game, for the reasons Jim doesn’t. Jim Fucking Sterling Son isn’t technically correct about everything, I’ve even seen people like games like Mighty Number 9.

    The best I can hope is that he doesn’t really push this in people’s faces, considering he’s wont to do that when he thinks his opinion is super duper correct. There are people who are going to like this game (probably including myself) and nobody should really take that away from them.

    • Objective reviews don’t exist.

      • Bionichute

        that was kind of my point

        • Ah, sorry. I was too quick on the trigger there.

          • Bionichute

            Objectivity, as a concept, is something thats hard to really pinpoint, and can only be attributed to a handful of things.

            For example, in the case of a game very similar to this, I love Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts, and I know a lot of other people that do… but most people don’t. Opinions are a thing that change between each person.

        • Silvershock

          Er, no it wasn’t. “Jim doesn’t like to be objective” implies very much that other people are capable of it.

    • galactix100

      First, every review is subjective. Second, there is nothing about this that demands you accept Jim’s word as gospel. You can disagree if you want.

      • Bionichute

        lot of people not getting my point lol

        • galactix100

          What point? You present the issue as if objective reviews are possible and that Jim merely chooses not to be objective.

          • Bionichute

            I fucked up, obviously, but my main point is that objectivity is something that can’t be applied to reviews. Its based entirely on their opinions.

          • galactix100

            Still not seeing your overall point here. Most people except deluded fanboys have cottoned onto the fact that reviews are subjective.

          • Bionichute

            my point is that reviews can’t be objective and everyone’s opinions are different, thats it

          • galactix100

            And that is in aid of?

          • Bionichute

            Nothing. I just wanted to point that out, because I thought the contrast between this and other reviews was interesting.

          • galactix100

            So what was with the whole Jim may push this in your face and act as though everything he’s said is 100% true thing?

        • Well, when you say a phrase like “Jim doesn’t like to be objective in his reviews…” it will make people think that’s exactly what you’re saying.

          Also, he’s never “pushed” his opinion in people’s faces. He writes the review, gives his thoughts on the game, but he doesn’t shit on other people or laugh at them for liking it. He didn’t do that when he was critical of Zelda.

          • Bionichute

            Its happened a few times for games he thinks are really awful, like Batman Arkham Knight.

          • Did he? When? Where? And to whom? Because I was reading/watching his stuff at the time and I don’t remember him doing any of that.

          • galactix100

            He ripped the piss out of the batmobile but that was about it. I think he ended up giving it a 6 or something in that region.

          • 5/10 from what I recall. I meant more about this guy’s point that Jim “pushed” his opinion on others. Because that’s ridiculous.

          • galactix100

            Yeah because he didn’t. He ran the whole ‘runs better then Arkham Knight’ joke into the ground and ripped into the batmobile but that was it. He never said that you shouldn’t like/play it just because he wasn’t wild about it.

        • Also, two is a “lot” of people?

    • CaitSeith

      I have been there in the past (a review complaining about things that I like from the game). Since then I have learned that no amount of negative reviews can take away anything from how much I like a game.

  • Tomás Soares

    Wow.
    I’m honestly amazed you didn’t gave it a 1, based on what you say in the review

    • Fallen Prime

      It has to actively offend his sensibilities to get a 1. This just reads as him thinking it’s super bad.

  • Chomerly

    Do the people who read this review not take into account that ALL reviews are based upon opinions from personal experience?
    Why do you get so offend because the score given isn’t what you personally wanted it to be?
    Does it somehow ruin the experience for you?

    • Thus far, I haven’t seen too many people passionately angry about the review, lashing out at Jim, or anything like that. So far, they’re mostly just surprised.

  • Mattspeakswords

    Really sorry to hear that. I think I’ll squeeze some enjoyment out of it, I personally haven’t really stopped loving the 90s 3D platformer, even the ones I never played back in the day. Still, these were the issues I worried it might have comceptually.

  • Anton

    Now that we see the final product, maybe it WOULD have been better with an adorable alt-right character XD

  • David K

    2/10? The world is gonna burn

  • Miles Saintborough

    Welp, this may make kickstarting games look unfeasible. Between this and Mighty No. 9, people aren’t going to trust games from Kickstarter anymore.

    • Anton

      Nah, this game didn’t get enough attention for it to shift the needle one way or the other.

      Now, if Star Citizen ends up sucking…. that would be quite a downer for crowdfunding as a whole.

      • Travis Touchdown

        Star Citizen isn’t going to come out.

        • Anton

          It doesn’t have to, somehow they’re getting a constant revenue stream on a promise.

          • Travis Touchdown

            And when that bubble bursts, it will lead to one of the biggest crowd funded scandals of all time.

            Do you really think people will continue to support empty promises?

          • Miles Saintborough

            Yes. See every pre order and season pass ever.

          • Anton

            People like to hope.

      • Miles Saintborough

        Maybe, but people flocked to this after MN9 bombed. This isn’t a good sign.

        • darksteel6

          And they’ll probably flock to Bloodstained, which will probably suck as well given how many times it’s been delayed.

          • Powermad80

            It’s been delayed once. And not so much a delay as an actual setting of a timeframe outside of the placeholder.

          • darksteel6

            I still don’t have much confidence in it actually being good.

          • Powermad80

            Well I do. Igarashi has a much better and more recent track record of knowing what he’s doing.

        • Anton

          I’m still keeping my fingers crossed for the Battletech crowdfunded game to be good.

          Not that I gave them any money, haha

          • CX316

            I gave them some of my cash. I didn’t have enough to throw at them at the time to get the bomber jacket, sadly.

            That said, the animations and graphics on Battletech look amazing so far, but the only gameplay we’ve gotten is pre-alpha staged stuff with the devs playing.

    • darksteel6

      Right, with this and MN9 being outright failures, I do not have high hopes for Bloodstained to be any good and i’m especially concerned about Star Citizen.

    • kripto sporidium

      What about the literal dozens of critical darlings that came out of it? Do Shovel Knight, Undertale, FTL, SUPERHOT, Pillars etc. not count because there were also a few games that got funded through the same system that weren’t all that good?

      People seem to put “Kickstarter” in the same space as “Activision” or “Gearbox” or whatever, as if there’s an attribute that somehow connects all the games from it. There’s literally 1 thing that all Kickstarter games have in common, and that’s that they got crowdfunded. Who’s making it, how they’re making it, how fast they’re gonna make it, who the game is going to appeal to – all of these things are completely and totally unrelated to the fact that a game got it’s funding from Kickstarter.

      • Miles Saintborough

        People remember the bad more than the good unfortunately.

        • kripto sporidium

          If that’s the reasoning, how come more games got kickstarted last year than the ones before, after shit like Godus? Except, hey, nobody even remembers Godus anymore, but everyone still remembers Shovel Knight.

          • Miles Saintborough

            I run off internet logic!

  • krazykain

    I feel like this is a game made for a very specific set of people, those who literally just want another banjo kazooie, people willing to forgive many of the old genre’s issues because that is what they want. Jim is not one of these people. That’s not to say that his opinion is invalid, but a LOT of people are going to disagree.

    • I am one of those peple (I constantly replay Castlevania – Legacy of Darkness after all) and even I have to admit that this game is pretty bad. I’d have given it a 4 though but still…

      • krazykain

        That’s a shame. This game was a bit of a posterchild for kickstarter so that’s going to give more fuel to the kickstarter haters.

        • LatePocketwatch

          This seems dependent on exactly what their proposal and marketing said. If they emphasized an older style platformer to backers, then they seem to have adhered to that promise. If they emphasized being inspired by older platformers or bringing the style to the modern era, then from the review they fell short. If they wavered between that would undermine the transparency and explicitness required for crowdfunding to work.

        • Fen

          I don’t really agree. This is more of an example of poor game design, nothing that Kickstarter’s involvement would’ve influenced. The game was funded and came out as it said it would, for all intents and purposes, this is a delivered promise, regardless of critical and fan reception. It may be poorly made, but it IS made.

          • krazykain

            Yeah, I’m not saying this is proof that kickstarter is terrible. I love kickstarter but for anyone who already dislikes it, this is confirmation bias. I’m already seeing comments on other pages along the lines of “have any games ever been successful from kickstarter”. Either not knowing or choosing to ignore the successes like wasteland 2 or darkest dungeon.

          • Fen

            Ah, revisionist history at its finest… I do agree with you though. People really do love to ignore facts when discussing things they have a preconceived conclusion on.

    • Hannibal Graham

      It’s one of those things where time makes “the same old issues” less and less excusable. It was worth the pain when Banjo Kazooie and Mario 64 just came out, but not now.

      I think a good comparison is the rebirth of all those side-scrolling platform games recently, like Shovel Knight. There is a way to hit the nostalgia factor while also learning from past mistakes made in the genre, and taking advantage of our beefier hardware in all the right ways.

  • Travis Touchdown

    No Jim, you aren’t going to recreate the Zelda situation again. I would advise you to stop trying.

    • Yep, he wants to recreate the Zelda situation where he gives his personal opinion of a game and people overreact to ridiculous levels.

    • Miles Saintborough

      If he was, he would have given this game a 7/10 and claimed he liked the game.

      • BlargleWargle

        The way you word this is like giving a game a 7/10 means you can’t possibly like the game.

        • Miles Saintborough

          Hence why people flipped their shit at his Zelda review. 7/10 means he didn’t like the game. This 2/10 here is “clickbait”

  • Marmaduke

    Oh boy, here we go again!

  • Powermad80

    This review is missing the “Please don’t hate me again Reddit” tag.

    • Miles Saintborough

      Maybe he stopped caring. If the world’s gonna burn, he may as well get the popcorn.

  • Rachel McVeigh

    This is what worried me about Yooka-Laylee. I love mascot platformers but there are lots of elements to them that haven’t aged well.

    I was hoping that Yooka-Laylee would have all the charm, colours, environments and humour of an old school mascot platformer without any of the horrible controls and camera.

    It’s unfortunate that they decided to keep everything, instead of modernising the mechanics and keeping the spirit of the genera.

  • Benj

    Ah, shit.

    I hope Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night doesn’t meet the same fate

    • Powermad80

      I feel like Bloodstained is a safe bet, Iga knows what he’s doing. Same situation as the DS Castlevanias except not tied to Konami and with a great budget. And the DS Vanias were amazing.

      • galactix100

        Yeah but Playtonic is ex-Rare guys who knew what they were doing, the banjo games etc were amazing. Never put faith in past form, Yooka shows anything it’s that stuff that being good way back when doesn’t mean shit.

        • Powermad80

          Yeah, the ex-Rare guys who knew what they were doing back during the N64 era when the games came out. And according to reviews so far, it looks like the problem is that they stopped learning after the N64 era ended. Igarashi has a far more recent history of knowing what he’s doing and is working with great teams.

          There’s even less nostalgia involved, the DS Castlevania games weren’t *that* long ago and their design still holds up as rock solid in every way today, unlike a lot of the design of the N64 greats.

  • Tony

    How terribly disappointing. Like many, I had high hopes for this one, not as anything groundbreaking, but as a solid journey back to the glory days of platformers. It didn’t seem like adapting the gameplay should have been munch of a challenge and the talent pool was there to do something great. I’d be curious to know a play-by-play of what might have gone wrong “back stage” because, honestly, it should have been far simpler to nail this.

  • Helluminatus

    To be honest this just sounds like he’s bashing the game for doing exactly what it said it would do. This game was made because people wanted that third Banjo-Kazooie wasn’t it? If there are gripes that don’t have to do with this, it wasn’t made very clear.

    • Anton

      Pretty sure the game didn’t promise terrible level design.

    • Miles Saintborough

      I dunno. I don’t think people literally want a game that has bad camera, bad controls, and bad game design. That’s not something to be nostalgic about.

      • Bionichute

        people (like me) still really like old games like that, flaws and all. at the least, going in knowing about these kind of flaws will make it a better experience.

        • galactix100

          Being able to cope with crap features doesn’t make them less crap.

          • InfamousDS

            I have been saying this to one obsessive Zelda fanboy for weeks.

          • galactix100

            You brave fool.

          • InfamousDS

            Thankfully it has all been on this site, so it is archived and easily found. Hooray?

        • Silvershock

          I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but…this is a new game.

      • CaitSeith

        Isn’t it? That’s pretty much the epitome of nostalgia: fond memories of things that the rest of the world have moved away from for good reasons. How many people have defended tank controls because that’s how old-school survival horror games were implemented? (I’m raising my hand while asking this)

    • Powermad80

      People usually want retro games to do all the retro fun stuff but keep all the good quality of life improvements that modern games have come up with. Shovel Knight is all the NES platforming fun but without all the artificial difficulty NES BS that games were flooded with back then.

      Sounds like Y-L is too retro, has all the flaws that we dealt with back then but tend not to forgive these days.

    • Silvershock

      You can’t improve game mechanics in a sequel two decades on?

    • galactix100

      I imagine they wanted a Banjo style game that wasn’t shit though. Or are a shit camera, dodgy framerate and crap design choices what you expect from a game?

  • BlargleWargle

    Oh boy, in come the drones to bravely defend the poor multi-million underdog.

  • David Everard

    Oh, no
    DDoS INCOMING

  • Engoni

    I was sure they where going to make it a cross between a classic and modern platformer, if they forgot everything that makes new games great then its a disaster.

  • NotAPeanut

    Can’t say I’m too surprised about this one. Should we expect another DDoS attack?

  • Growlithe99

    2 controversial reviews on your site in a row, Jim. That’s got to be a record.

  • 90% of the questions here are: “Well, you clearly hated it for all the reasons given. But will *I* like it?”

    • Anton

      More like: “But Jim, you can’t give it a bad score because it’s SUPPOSED to be bad!”

      • Bionichute

        I think the original question here is a lot more fair, you’re kind of coming off as a toss.

        • Anton

          It’s just jokes, bruh.

    • galactix100

      It’s because the game’s got them so nostalgia riddled that they’ve been reverted to a child like state where they needed help with tying shoelaces and wiping their arse.

  • Captain Pipsqueak

    Heh. You’d think backers would have learned after the waste of money that was ‘Mighty Number Nine.

    Alas, you people are as stupid as ever.

    Enjoy your failure.

    • Miles Saintborough

      No, you are not Yahtzee.

      • Benj

        But he used the word “alas” and he’s acting really condescending.

        That means he’s super clever and witty right?

      • Anton

        Well, he did use punctuation, so obviously….

      • Captain Pipsqueak

        I’m also not out any money. I swear, with the wreckage your dancing monkey is making of the country and then coming and seeing this, I’m surprised the schadenfreude hasn’t caused my heart to stop from sheer cruel glee.

        • Miles Saintborough

          A shame that it did not happen.

          • Captain Pipsqueak

            Well, I’ve also been referred to as ‘a heartless bastard’ now and then, so perhaps they’re correct.

        • Thomas Ward

          What the hell are you saying?

          • I’m gonna bet English isn’t his first language.

        • galactix100

          Mate, just fuck off.

          • Captain Pipsqueak

            Nah.

    • People should have learned their lesson from what a completely different developer and Kickstarter did?

      I mean, if this was the exact same developer, then you might have a point.

    • hyjinx17

      You do know Yooka Laylee was kickstarted before Mighty Number 9 released right?

      • Captain Pipsqueak

        Certainly isn’t going to prevent me from having fun at everyone’s expense.

    • Fallen Prime

      Dude.

      • Captain Pipsqueak

        Oh Prime. I find failure funny. You know this.

        • Fallen Prime

          Not now. Not like this.

          Yooka-Laylee had a lot going for it, and a lot of people pulling for it. This is ENTIRELY different from the constantly red-flagging Mighty No. 9.

          This is a time to mourn.

    • Justin Graham

      Because two projects by two entirely different studios will inevitably share the same outcome because they were crowdfunded?

      That’s not how logic works.

      • Miles Saintborough

        Nah he thinks it’s bloody hilarious to watch people freak out.

        • Fallen Prime

          And lots of times, it can be. Sometimes, though, that’s only with the benefit of hindsight. In the moment, when crushed hopes are involved in a situation that showed promise, it’s just sad.

          • Miles Saintborough

            It’s damn sad how this game turned out.

  • Riley Holt

    Well that stinks, considering the hopes that this would redeem the whole “crowd-funded indie game” thing that Mighty Number Nine mucked up. Though I personally wasn’t terribly invested in a 3-D platformer, considering I’m crap at 2-D ones.

    Fingers crossed that Indivisible will be good.

    • Thomas Ward

      Skullgirls is brilliant, I have no doubt Indivisble will be too.

  • Thomas Neo Anderson

    In b4 DDOS from “delicate” fanboys.

  • TheDeadFellow

    It has begun.

  • kimiyoribaka

    “Subtlety of movement wasn’t a strong suite of early 3D mascot platforms, which made navigating narrow ledges a pain.” Shouldn’t that be “suit”? My mind says so, but it’s sometimes wrong about language. Sorry if I am wrong.

    • RIME

      No, you appear to be correct on this. It comes from the idea of having a good hand of cards, and the term with cards is “suit”.

  • ichkanns

    It’ll be funny to see the reaction to this review… how can a new IP already have fanboys?

    • Miles Saintborough

      Welllll since they funded the kickstarter, gotta make sure and hope the money did not go to waste now.

      • Silvershock

        To be honest, some of the games I’ve been most critical of are ones I’ve backed, because I want them to be good, damn it! That’s why we have critique, because we want things to be better. Most people seem to have this ass-backwards, where once they’ve invested in a thing that means it automatically has to be amazing and must be defended. I mean holy shit, the screaming frothing fanboyism I’ve run into when criticising Star Citizen (a concept I adore being made in a way where there is a lot to criticise). I’m constantly having to point out my user profile on the SC website, to show that I really am a backer. I want it to be great. The concept is everything I have ever wanted in a video game. None of that changes that the initial arena release was the most pay-to-win horseshit I have ever seen in my life, or that I’ve been trying to get into playing the game for years now but 2.5 was just too buggy to play.

        Whoops, getting into an SC rant there. Point is, we should be *more* critical of things we kickstart, not less, if we want them to come out well.

        • Miles Saintborough

          Oh I agree. I’m not saying that backing a game means it should be immune to criticism, but what I was trying to say is people are exhibiting sunk cost fallacy.

    • Fallen Prime

      Because the IP’s been around since the Kickstarter launched and it all looked promising up until release?

      It’s not like Yooka-Laylee only existed for fan-earning purposes on launch. Which it still hasn’t even done yet; it’s still a week out.

    • galactix100

      Because it’s Banjo Kazooie 3 but with enough stuff changed so as to avoid legal trouble.

    • Frenden

      Because they kickstarted it and there’s NO WAY they could have spent hard earned money on crap. /s

    • Because it’s a spiritual successor to an older, beloved IP.

    • CaitSeith

      Kickstarter + spiritual successor of a nostalgic IP + involvement of the developers from the aforementioned IP.

  • Guy Incognito

    If you disagree or don’t like Jim’s review, why can’t you simply just stop reading his reviews? Go find someone who gave it a positive review if you need that fix.

    Some people are warped man

    • Miles Saintborough

      What if there are no good reviews out?

      • Guy Incognito

        IGN has a 7/10

        • Fallen Prime

          Yeah, but 7/10 is BAD everywhere but here, remember?

        • galactix100

          Everyone knows that a 7/10 from IGN is the same as a 5 from anyone with a concept of how a 1-10 scale would be applied.

    • Fallen Prime

      I find VALUE in a critic whose opinion I can trust even when I disagree with it. Jim’s one of those for me.

  • Silvershock

    See, this is why I read Jim’s stuff – the dude is blatantly into his nostalgia, that beautiful Boglin boy, but he doesn’t let it blind him. The early 3D platformers really are bloody awful to replay 20 years on. A recent replay of Mario 64 made me want to tear my own eyes out upon the realisation that Mario 64 holds up as well as a wet sheet of rice paper, and if it were released today it would be savaged (well, except by *those* people….you know which people I mean).

    If you’re going to remaster or remake old games, you’ve got to put in the lessons we’ve learned since then, or your game will feel archaic and horrible from minute one. The Sly Cooper HD release fixed the first game’s camera, and the game was better for it. The Team Ico HD release did *nothing*, so Ico was as shit as Ico has always been.

    • Galvanized Rap fan

      Super Mario 64 holds up pretty amazingly, I don’t know what on earth your on about. Ditto the Banjo Kazooie games and Conker’s Bad fur Day. And Ico shit?! Lol, I’ve heard it all now.. 🙂

      • Miles Saintborough

        Well the controls can be a bit wonky at times and the camera can be iffy, but everything else is fine. For Mario 64 I mean.

      • Silvershock

        Which Mario 64 have you been playing? The one with the horrific camera? The player character who controls differently depending on what speed he’s going at? The backtracking that would make a Metroid game blush? The tiny levels mostly devoid of enemies because they knew full well the platforming was bad enough? The way every level is surrounded by The Void for no apparent reason? No, you’re right man, I love it when a game gives me a level with 7 objectives, then boots me clear out of the level and resets any time I achieve one.

        On any given Mario 64 run, I’ll die more to the camera and controls than to any of the wimpy, useless enemies. Other Mario games remain some of my favourite platformers but M64 is trash.

        • Sonydrone

          Mario 64 have better camera than a lot of games from today.

          • Silvershock

            See, we’d already figured out that you were just here to troll, mate. Don’t make it *that* obvious.

          • Sonydrone

            I’m not trolling, a lot of people are with me on this. But i can’t do nothing if you think that anyone that disagrees with you is trolling, i feel sorry for you.

      • Crispman

        Super Mario 64 DS was da bomb

      • Silvershock

        Just noticed that you poked the bear on the whole Ico thing. Ico’s an atrocious game.

        If I said “there’s this game that’s one gigantic escort quest, and the person you’re escorting is brain-dead, and wanders off, and never does what you want them to, and if you walk away from them for too long you lose basically instantly, and the controls are total stiff shit, and the combat is horrendous, and the story is shit, and the whole thing has eyesore graphics”, you’d likely think I was talking about Amy, but nope – Ico. Absolute proof that you can sell people total shit if you just make out that it’s “artsy”.

        Team Ico at least improved with Shadow of the Colossus, which while it had some problems was much more fun to play. It wasn’t ugly as sin, the controls were much better, the creature designs were kick-ass, the fights were pretty great. My biggest beef with it was that it was *way* too quick to flat-out tell the player what to do, and there was no way to turn off the “hints”.

        Then The Last Guardian finally rocked up and I thought “oh, Ico again.” No thanks.

    • Jumbo Jango

      I wish they’d remake SM64 with more polished controls and a camera that isn’t worse than death itself. I think it could still be pretty solid

      • Silvershock

        That’s why I was so pissed at the DS re-release. It’s worse! I mean, the original DS range is a masterclass in how not to make a handheld device, but trying to play something with controls that hideous without the analog stick it was originally designed for is foam-frothingly bad. They *could* have done something to fix the mechanics in the DS version, but they didn’t. They just tacked on a load of minigame guff (because of course Nintendo would do that), gave the game something resembling actual textures rather than the laughable we-made-a-console-without-texture-memory appearance of the original, and threw it out without fixing *any* of its major issues.

        • Crispman

          Really, you think so? I played it with the option that let you control the characters with the touch screen and I thought it controlled brilliantly

          • Silvershock

            The stylus controls drove me up the wall, but then I can’t recall a DS game where the stylus controls didn’t drive me up the wall.

    • masterthatsword

      Well that’s, like, your opinion, man. I love Mario 64, it’s one of my favorite games ever made.

  • YuriFan

    You just like having your site getting DDOS attacks, don’t you?

  • KaoTeK

    Ah it’s a shame, I was looking forward to this as a guy who has been a fan of Rare since they were called Ultimate.

    On the upside, there’s so many great games at the moment, I hardly care (Nier is wonderful Jim, you were spot on)

  • CX316

    *sighs and looks at Mighty Number 9 and Yooka-Laylee, then looks over at Battletech*

    Pleasedon’tbeshitpleasedon’tbeshitpleasedon’tbeshit

    • Spurious K

      Seconding that. I have a little more confidence in BT given the stuff that’s been coming out about it. Sure it could turn out to be a clunky mess with terrible level design… but it’s at least not trying to recapture anything other than being Battletech. And it’s already made improvements over the base formula of Battletech’s mechanics so I kinda expect more of a Wasteland 2: decent but would not be at all surprised if it will need a ton of patching to get to properly finished/good level. That’s my worthless gut-instinct take on it anyway. (Not a backer).

    • Funtime Happysnacks

      For god’s sake I am so sick of seeing these “I’m very insecure about my KS bets” comments. Some Kickstarters succeed. Some flop. Get over it. I think some have entirely forgotten there are other projects on KS that have nothing to do with video games, and condemn the reputability of the entire system because you foolishly trusted Capcom’s worst developer or something, and B-tier devs (Inti or Comcept, take your pick) with a LOT of your money. You expected MN9 to be good, despite it being developed for release on every console known to man? Anyone could have done the math and figured out one studio can’t make a classic Megaman title on $4m, that runs perfectly on all known gaming machines from 3DS and phone all the way up to PC. You would literally have more of a right to be annoyed if they had only promised console versions.

      Sometimes your investment will succeed. Sometimes it will fail. Welcome to stock exchange. You can’t go throwing the baby out with the bathwater, when you don’t win big. If you could have used that money, and regret giving it to a dev, then you never wanted to give up that money in the first place. That’s what it feels like to roll the dice.

      • Otherhand

        I think this is behind a lot of people’s explosive anger about video games too. Some people are incapable of being just a little disappointed and moving on. Buying a dud is the worst thing in the world. I must be supernaturally good at choosing games before I’ve played them, or my pride will be damaged and that’s more painful that a backstreet amputation; I will howl. If a game I’ve bought turns out to be bad, someone needs to die. Shoot the messenger.

        If I buy a book, I don’t know if I’m going to enjoy it or not. If a don’t, I’m not going to swear off buying books. I’m not going to war against the reviewers or the shops. As you say, you win some, you lose some.

  • Scaper

    The site is being DDoS’d again, isn’t it? What the fuck is wrong with people?!

    • Miles Saintborough

      What’s wrong with people? People.

    • Powermad80

      Just like always, it’s probably not DDoS-ing, just a ton of traffic stressing the servers.

  • Foxune

    A bit strange that you complain about penis jokes and all that when Laura Kate Dale’s contribution to your podcast is pretty much 95% sex and toilet jokes.

    • Context is important. The Banjo-Kazooie games and this game largely targeted a younger audience. So those kinds of jokes aren’t appropriate to use. It’d be like putting blood and gore in a Mario game.

      • Hunter Nance

        Banjo Kazooie and Tooie had lots of inappropriate jokes hidden in…

        • Ah. Having never played them, I wasn’t aware of that.

        • Funtime Happysnacks

          They employed a thing called subtlety. “Trowzer Snake” (besides not even sounding like a name) is far from subtle.

          • InfamousDS

            Playstation Access really thought it was hilarious. I can only assume that whatever echo chamber was employed by PlayTonic agreed with them.

            Also: Not really funny, but I still find it cute.

          • Hunter Nance

            He’s a snake that wears trousers, what do you want?

      • guy smiley

        I doubt context has much to do with it. I’m sure Jim would be all for it, if it was funny. And maybe a little less mean spirited, that’d probably help too.

      • Remember that time in Super Mario RPG when Mario found Peach’s dildo? Good times.

      • RIME

        See also: the jokes in that Fur-Fun game.

  • BaleonRosen

    Fuck, Bloodstained has to completely smash it out of the park or else Kickstarted projects will be written off entirely. This and MN9 are two very high profile flops now, and that’s not good. Three strikes and Kickstarter is out.

    Shame the game isn’t good. Was going to give this one a look at some point but I guess I’ll pass on it now.

    • darksteel6

      don’t forget Star Citizen.

    • Funtime Happysnacks

      Well forget anything you currently know about Bloodstained cuz they took a massive delay to basically scrap their Unity build and remake the entire project on a different engine. Also this game’s definitely not a flop, even if everything Jim said is true. Besides this, it’s getting all the predictable rave reviews from people starved for more Rareware

    • MrSmithdaman

      Star Citizen is gonna be the biggest failure of all time

      it’s gonna be glorious to witness

    • Otaku_Hanzo

      You say Kickstarter is out yet every project I’ve backed on there has turned out excellent. Well, except for one that didn’t make it’s full funding. Still, 8 out of 9 isn’t bad. And I have four more projects still in the works that are looking promising. Now, you may have meant Kickstarter is out for you in which case I can understand. Personally though, I’m pretty happy with my experiences and think it’ll be around for awhile. 🙂

      • BaleonRosen

        I more meant that public opinion is going to become worse than it is. Kickstarter has unfortunately earned a bad rep because of scams and flops and the like, and when something big falls flat (like MN9 and perhaps this have) it gives people more ammo to use against it. I don’t mean to say Kickstarter is bad at all, I’m actually worried for it and people relying on it.

        • Otaku_Hanzo

          I can understand that. Some of the companies I helped in the past have moved on to Fig now. I’m just one to not let nostalgia glasses fog my judgement when it comes to backing games. But my love for DRM free games tends to be what pulls me toward the projects I do back. Besides, I’d much rather pay $60+ dollars and get a physical copy of my game than same amount for a digital “AAA” release that’s going to want to charge me more money for DLCs and micro-transactions.

  • IconDevco

    Make Battle For Bikini Bottom Great Again

  • Vinnie Vincent’s Dead Dog

    I can just hear the crying gamer boys now. Shame you have an opinion Jim! SHAME ON YOU!

  • -Misaki-

    Geez lol didn’t see that score coming lol!!

    • guy smiley

      Am I the only one who gets really annoyed by people who use lol like it’s punctuation? Literally, in this case, there’s a comma and a full stop that have been replaced with a lol. Misaki, did you really find Jim’s review THAT FUCKING FUNNY? Really?

      • -Misaki-

        The question is are you mad at my comment or mad at the assumption that I found the review to be funny?

        • guy smiley

          I’m mad at your comment. I don’t care what you thought of the review, you choice of words annoys me. I said that already.

          • -Misaki-

            lol Let’s hope tHat’s indeed the reason lol! Lol!!

  • Frenden

    This is a bit terrifying considering how much money this made on Kickstarter

  • Raging Raving

    Yeesh, First Mighty Number 9 then this?, here’s hoping Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night doesn’t fall into the same mess of game’s that are kickstarted then failing 🙁

  • Mikkel Ulriksen

    i ma going to print this out and make it a part of my Jim fucking sterling son shrine that i am currently building.

  • Polishfury5000

    Ah, that’s too bad. Guess if I get nostalgic for Rare platformers I’ll just stick to my N64. At least there I can blame the shit controls/camera on late 90’s console limitations. Tougher excuse not to be smoother these days.If you want to recreate the retro experience, maybe do what RE1 Remake did and give the option to use either classic or modern control schemes.

    So far none of these Kickstarter’s are offering anything better than their classics, there’s not much of a reason to get them unless you’re a die-hard fan.

    Going to be interested in how Bloodstained comes out. At least Iga hasn’t been out of the developing game as long. Even if we get something exactly on par with the superb DS titles, it’ll be a welcomed title.

  • Vinnie Vincent’s Dead Dog

    The only positive review I’ve seen so far of this game was from IGN and well, yeah, I don’t think I need to explain any further about why that’s not to be taken seriously.

    • ManuOtaku

      Arstechnica one, was positive.

    • I got here from opencritic, and most reviews there were 75-84/100. I’d call those positive compared to this.

    • Alex

      Escapist – 9/10
      Games Machine – 8.5/10
      Forbes – 8/10
      GameInformer – 8/10
      Hobby Consolas – 8.7/10
      Areajugones – 9/10
      Slant Magazine – 8/10

      • CaitSeith

        I shouldn’t laugh at how low-key some of those sites sound like. “Areajugones”?

        • Alex

          Oh yes, as low key as Forbes or The Escapist lol Just because you don’t know Areajugones doesn’t mean is low key, you probably don’t know Hobby Consolas either yet they are arguably the most important videogame web in Spain

          • Mr_SP

            Forbes is a bit magazine, but I’m not sure I’d trust it as a gaming review site. I feel like it dabbles in it, more than anything else.

            But I prefer my smaller, more personal reviewers, either way.

          • CaitSeith

            What score did Hobby Consolas give to the game?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Spain sucks.

  • ManuOtaku

    Well this might change some people views on nuts and bolts.

    • Vinnie Vincent’s Dead Dog

      Sure and while we’re at it, I’ll rethink my view on Alien Colonial Marines.

      • ManuOtaku

        Well I meant more the notion of Microsoft killed rare, and changed the old rare to the new rare than the game per-se. Viva piñata and nuts and bolts were good in my view. Nuts and bolts let you tackle missions in any form, using any vehicle you created, I think it was ahead of its time, in that regard.

        • Vinnie Vincent’s Dead Dog

          I’m just not a fan of driving games. I would have preferred a more classic take with modern controls on Banjo. Kind of what I expected this to be. But apparently not haha.

          • ManuOtaku

            I understand that, it is not for everybody tastes, and it is a fair valid view. I do also like the platformers better, but I did honestly like that aspect, I mean let you tackle the missions in different ways with different vehicles that do different things.

      • darksteel6

        I actually do like that game.

    • CaitSeith

      Different genre. No comparison.

      • ManuOtaku

        Agreed, although it was more in the sense of the situation of Old Rare versus New Rare, and people wanting Old rare back, because Microsoft did kill it, putting a New rare.

  • Sam Turver

    Thats what you get for firing jontron

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Jontron sucks.

  • Jumbo Jango

    Does it bother anybody else that people accuse games like Breath of the Wild of relying too much in nostalgia (even though it changes almost everything about the Zelda formula and the nostalgia factor isn’t nearly as big when there’s a still a new one coming out every few years) when nobody says the same about games like this, whose entire sales pitch is based on nostalgia for 64 era platformers to the point where it’ll recreate the worst things about them?

    • Anton

      The presence or absence of nostalgia elements is irrelevant; what matters is the final quality of the finished product. Some products incorporate it well; others…. are like this.

      • Jumbo Jango

        Agreed, just as long as forced references and stuff don’t get in the way of the individual work. *Glares at The Force Awakens*

    • Silvershock

      Still upset about that review, eh? 😉

      I don’t think Zelda relies too much on nostalgia in its gameplay so much as its marketing and setting. It’s practically illegal to not like one, because Zelda was a thing when people were kids. And yeah, one reason I bought HZD over Zelda (aside from seeing the plethora of checklists on someone’s Zelda HUD and thinking “what the fuck”) was because Hyrule just doesn’t excite me any more. Oh, is Gannon doing a badness? I wonder if I’ll have to travel across big green fields and help Zelda. Perhaps I’ll get the Master Sword along the way.

      Wait, what’s this thing over here? Robot fucking dinosaurs in a post-tech tribal Colorado? That…..sounds pretty neat, Guerilla.

    • Daniel Gonzalez

      Breath of the Wild sucks.

  • Liam Russell

    this is the problem with kickstarter games, if you wanna make something as a labour of love then just make it. 2 million dollars should have produced something better. i think they needed to look 5 years into the future at games like spyro: a heroes tail for inspiration. thank god for you jim sterling.

    • CaitSeith

      “if you wanna make something as a labour of love then just make it”. Right, because lack of resources doesn’t matter, as long as there is love. /s

      The problem is when kickstarter games get too overfunded (they are usually unprepared for that). The pledge was for about 200,000 dollars, and they got 10 times that money.

  • Bristow9091

    Well I’m not going to bash Jim for having a different opinion to me, since that’d just be silly and pointless. All I’m gonna’ say is that from the day it was announced it’s looked exactly like Banjo Kazooie reskinned, I loved these games in the 90’s, along with Mario 64, Croc, Gex etc. and I love collectathon games too… I’ve seen some reviews that give it a ton of praise, and some that hated every second with it.

    What do I think?
    I’m just after some NEW nostalgia, I can easily go back and play the original Banjo games, and I last played Super Mario 64 about a month ago and for me personally it still holds up great; Therefore I’ll still be buying the game and make my own opinion of it.

    In order to know if you’re going to like a game or not, you need to experience it yourself… make your own opinion, don’t pick your games only by looking at reviews, otherwise you could miss out on something great!

    • Silvershock

      Why bother reading reviews if you’re just going to say “I shouldn’t be listening to opinions, I’ll just throw money at it anyway”?

      • Vinnie Vincent’s Dead Dog

        It worked for the Transformers franchise.

        • Bristow9091

          Are you referring to the games or films?

      • Tonberinho

        Because people, generally, don’t seek reviews to discuss the game or the media, or even to confront itself with another (exposed) point of view. They just want mirrors…

      • Bristow9091

        Because even though I don’t base every purchase on reviews (Actually very few of my game purchases have been influenced by reviews), I still like to read what people thought of the game… doesn’t mean I’ll change my mind, I just think it’s nice to see a variety of opinions from each side of the scale.

    • mrhair

      In theory, sure. In reality, I don’t have the time or the money to experience every new release for myself.

      • Bristow9091

        And you should have experience EVERY new release, just the ones that interest you 🙂

  • ManuOtaku

    I do wonder how this game compare to the LIVE version of the N64 Banjo games. Because I do still replay those often, and have a good time with those.

  • SilentPony

    What’s with you and DDoS Jim? I mean no offense you’re not worth fucking with. You’ve never changed your mind because of threats or freak outs, and you’re not about to start now.

    Seems like a massive waste of time on the part of the trolls.

    • Hoxton the 4th

      I think it’s more “overload of traffic” than a DDoS.

      • SilentPony

        Eh? Lot of the comments are pretty negative. The usual suspects.

        • CaitSeith

          I doubt the DDoS attackers even bother to leave comments on the site.

          • InfamousDS

            I concur. People that leave comments want to be heard. Breaking the site, for all intents and purposes, keeps you from being heard unless you do something silly like access the comment section from off-site. Thank goodness that is impossible.

        • FlyHighAgain

          They’re not negative you just don’t know what you’re talking about. No surprise there lol

    • FlyHighAgain

      Most of the comments actually agree with Jim. In fact Jim isn’t the only one giving this game a bad review it’s getting mixed reviews across the board

  • Funtime Happysnacks

    All of this is pretty much what I was expecting after I saw the Casino and Glacier stages. They shouldn’t have gone with Unity for this. Everything feels floaty and sterilized. Toybox+ had me excited, but everything since has convinced me to pass on this.

  • Sonydrone

    This reviews reads like = I need ATTENTION PLEASE

    • Maxwell Tucker

      How?

      • SilentPony

        Don’t give him an attention. His comment just reads like = I need ATTENTION PLEASE

        • Sonydrone

          Yeah, let’s defend Jim like zealots and than conplain about people being zealots about Zelda, lol

          • FlyHighAgain

            Spoken like a true butthurt loser. Go cry like a little bitch some more. It’s fun to wAtch butthurt people lose their shit.

          • Sonydrone

            You are the leader of Jim defense task? Or just someone that need worship something to have a reason to live?

          • Giorgos Katsas

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/60294e6c08c4543178002b6f1bbce49704144cc5fece100faeb7cd4fd84c623a.jpg

            Shouldn’t you be busy playing the actual game or something ? Or if nothing else offer some constructive criticism ? Cause you seem be doing neither.

          • Sonydrone

            I don’t pretend to buy this game, it’s just seems like a mediocre game, not a 2 like Jim scored to get some attetion but not a good game either. Sorry for not agree with your god opinion.

          • Giorgos Katsas

            That’s what opinions are for. What bugs you is that Jim’s can reach a lot more people. Wanna do something about it ? Start a website and do reviews, don’t bitch about Jim creating an audience that took the better part of a decade to build.

            And don’t crucify people cause they think different than you, you robot.

          • FlyHighAgain

            I called you a butthurt loser that can’t take different opinions and that’s the truth. Your constant objection to that statement validates that point I made 😉

          • Maxwell Tucker

            You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

      • Sonydrone

        If you can’t see “how” i’m sure that you don’t have the intelect to understand even if i try. Some people are not blessed with intelligence.

        • FlyHighAgain

          I was gonna say the same thing about your comment. You sound and probably look like a Down’s syndrome kid who’s jumping up and down trying to get his special ed teacher to pay attention to him lol

          • Sonydrone

            Wow another Jim worshiper calling names here to defend his sausage fingers god. Sorry man, you are just pathetic and i feel sorry for you.

          • bruce livingston

            You attacked him first, saying he doesn’t have the intellect (ironically spelling it wrong) to understand you. Then you turn around and accuse him of calling names? lol

          • Sonydrone

            First: I learn my english all by myself on the internet, why don’t you show how good is your portuguese?

            Second: Hi is really stupid if he can’t understand that i’m arguing that Jim is begging for attention giving games low score like this (I know that you know what im talking about it).

            Third: Saying that he don’t have the intellect is not calling names.

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Poor two geese sucks.

        • Maxwell Tucker

          Meaning you can’t back up your assertions with well thought out arguments.

          • Sonydrone

            Keep delusional (and stupid of course).

          • Maxwell Tucker

            Keep delusional? What the fuck are you on?

    • FlyHighAgain

      Sounds like you’re projecting

    • Muddy Scarecrow

      Ok.

  • MrSmithdaman

    are ratchet and clank and the mario games seriously the only decent 3d platformers we have? ffs industry get your shit together

    • ManuOtaku

      I did like Knack. And the puppeteer past generation.

    • Jumbo Jango

      3D Mario’s usually great. Hopefully Odyssey delivers

    • Johni

      Don’t forget Poi. Seriously that’s one of my faves, even if it is fairly simplistic and a little janky in places.

  • MarcoGB

    Aw… Fuck off. Saying those bad reviews isn’t a PR move is getting hard to believe

    • Maxwell Tucker

      Or maybe,bear with me now, maybe those were his actual opinions based on his experience and personal likes and dislikes.

      • Sonydrone

        Yeah, of course is his opinions (says the zealot). You don’t need to be very smart to see that giving a low score to Zelda and a very low score (42 points from average) to Yooka is OBVIOUS a PR move, only Jim sausage fingers worshipers can’t see this. You are just like the Zelda fanatics that you conplained about it.

        • FlyHighAgain

          Or maybe you’re just a butthurt loser who doesn’t be like opinions that aren’t different to yours. Newsflash loser, not everyone is going to like the same horrible games that you like.

        • Maxwell Tucker

          Lmao zealot!? Oh God and a 7/10 is low? Jesus Fucking Christ your autism is off the scale. No you don’t like Jims reviews because you think they’re an attack on you and your likes and dislikes so you take it personally. Grow up, not everything is about you.

          • TheGreenGarden Ruler of TWST!

            Please stop it with the ableist slurs and insults.

        • bruce livingston

          His score was pretty much in line with the User Score though..

        • Silvershock

          “It’s obvious that saying he liked a game but didn’t like it as much as me is a deliberate attempt to blah blah blah blah…”

          Grow up.

        • Danny Carr

          Except this hasn’t exactly been universally praised has it? One outlet gave it a 35. Jim gave it a 2. Polygon a 5. Escapist gave it a 9. It’s received scores from very low to very high. It’s getting mixed reviews. People are going away with very different impressions of this game.

          The 35 review has similar criticism to Sterlings. You think maybe if more than one reviewer had a similar impression maybe that’s people just not liking the game? You don’t need to be very smart to realise that it’s not a coincidence the two lowest scores criticize it for the same things. It’s pretty clear people can come away with a negative view of the game. This is also a game Sterling wanted to do well; he backed it. He also bought attention to this game. You really think he’s going to be negative about it without good reason knowing he’s coverage may have convinced his fans to consider backing or buying this?

          Maybe actually think before having a tantrum about PR and zealotry? Otherwise you come across as throwing a wobbler because a game got a low score.

    • Vinnie Vincent’s Dead Dog

      Wouldn’t a better PR move be giving the game a positive review?

      • Mr_SP

        For Yooka Laylee, yes. For The Jimquisition, no. Not that I’m weighing in on either side, but I did come here because I heard Jim gave it a low score, when I don’t usually read his reviews.

        • Vinnie Vincent’s Dead Dog

          But that logic only works if his site has advertisers, which it doesn’t. So it’s not a good or bad move for Jim Sterling.

          • Mr_SP

            I suppose it could be argued that it increases interest, which may lead to increased Patreon subscriptions? I’m not entirely certain how this might work, given my inexperience in the field.

          • BarthVader

            It’s too much of a reach IMHO. At this point Jim makes ~$10k a month (plus pocket change from his non-JQ-related videos), and doesn’t really NEED to gain interest in such way.

          • Mr_SP

            Well, the Jimquisition makes $11.6k/mth raw, but there’s plenty of overhead. Not sure if he hires a cameraman or editor, but Boglins aren’t cheap.

        • CaitSeith

          “For The Jimquisition, no”
          No? I bet that if Jim had given to this game a 9 or 10, we would had the “OH, HE DOES THIS FOR ATTENTION” comments anyways (it has happened before).

          • Mr_SP

            …This website is strange and confusing.

        • Artemiy

          Well, if Yooka-Laylee turned out good, he could’ve had another JQ about Kickstarter, being all smug and sticking it to the “triple ‘Ey”. So no, I don’t think this is particularly good for the JQ.

          • InfamousDS

            Thanks for reminding me we won’t be getting a segment or episode where Jim makes fun of Microsoft again.

            At least we’ll get a #FucKonami out of Bloodstained, regardless of game quality. Because Jim is just that petty.

    • Sperium3000

      This is his FIRST bad review in a while, since that one indie game that was trying to be Resident Evil 1 that no one gave a shit about. The fact that you’re still acting like 7 and 8.5 are bad scores is mind boggling.

  • I feel like this game and Mighty No.9 share the same problem, which makes me worried for Bloodstained, a game I am VERY interested in (for obvious reasons if you know who I am)
    I like these types of games and, as I mentioned in another post, while I would have given the game a 4 out of 10 it still isn’t very good.

    It seems to me that those projects that bank on nostalgia simply don’t understand why the original games were so great to begin with. Both Mario 64 and Banjo Kazooie are amazing games in their own right, but not because of the collectibles you collect or the fact that you re-traverse the same levels over and over.

    The collectibles were an excuse to make you replay the same levels because in the olden days space was limited so they had to work around that.

    Notes in Banjo were rarely in obscure locations or had riddles with utterly bizarre solutions. Stars in Mario 64 were interesting to collect because of the way the game was designed. It was about freedom and exploration in those games. Adding some bizarre level designs just to collect an obscure collectible isn’t good game design.

    Add the fact that, if a collectible doesn’t abide by the four rules a good collectible should have, they become more annoying as time goes on.

    The fact that the camera is wonky and the A.I. braindead doesn’t help, I can’t shake the feeling that, if the level designs and mission designs were more interesting and fun in itself, this wouldn’t have been to big of a problem.

    Instead of banking on nostalgia, perhaps a bit more thought should have went into understanding the fundamentals of early 3D platformers.

    • A Peanut Butter Sandwich

      Well said. Remaking nostalgia is not easy.

    • Nix

      Though I feel more confident in Bloodstained since Koji Igarashi himself is directing it.

      • Powermad80

        Yeah and plus it hasn’t even been *that* long since the DS Castlevanias which were top tier, he’s basically just doing that again but with a big budget and no Konami.

        He has a track record that’s deserving of confidence.

  • Dariush

    “a lizard and a bat, whatssup with that?!!” shit, thats whatssup.

  • Sven

    Oh man. At first I thought this was going to be Breath of the Wild all over again, but many other reviews out there are lukewarm at best. It’s definitely not getting the reception I was hoping for.

    I backed this game as well, knowing it could potentially end up mediocre, or even bad. I backed it because I felt that this type of game needed to exist. That’s something I still believe. It’s just very sad to see that a game that everyone hoped would revive cool 3D platform games is apparently pretty shit. I still find it a little hard to fathom that the game plays that badly, though. I generally enjoyed the Toybox, even though it was a bit rough. It showed tons of potential. Seems like Playtonic did very little with the feedback they received on it.

    I’ll reserve my own final judgment of Yooka-Laylee until after I’ve beaten it. Maybe I’ll like it better, but at this point, having read like 10 reviews of it, I can safely say that my hype has died down considerably. One more week to wait, I guess.

  • Vinnie Vincent’s Dead Dog

    This if anything showcases the problems with Kickstarter. You’re essentially funding the creation of art as a shareholder in the art without any of the actual rights of a shareholder. So there’s no checks and balances in place, so suddenly a developer has 10 million and their disposal and they just go all Star Citizen on everyone and release a half finished game. Ultimately leaving you wondering where the hell the money went. It’s going to suck for developers from here on out, because being burned twice so far, is going to make people less inclined to give money. There really needs to be greater transparency between developers and the market that bought into this, perhaps asking input on every level is better than letting these developers live in their own creative bubble.

  • Muddy Scarecrow

    The more I saw of this game the less interested I became. The worlds just look too huge and empty. Which, you know, was the big complaint about Nuts and Bolts. A game you’d think Playtonic would want to avoid Yooka baring any resemblance to. Yeah, I get that both Banjo games (especially Tooie) had some pretty massive worlds that you could end up getting lost in. But those worlds had things to do in them. Every single corner had a new discovery to make. Whether it was puzzles, jiggies, Mumbo Jumbo or what have you. Even from the very first reveal of this game it looked way too large and empty.

  • Sounds an awful lot like they have stuck with what they know either as a safety net or because they simply haven’t taken any advancements in technology into account.

  • InfamousDS

    Oh look, the site crashed again. Thank god for Google cache and Disqus hosting the comments separately.

    Also: Called it yesterday. Bunch of wankers, you are predictable now.

    • FlyHighAgain

      Nah Jim is right. Game is trash

      • InfamousDS

        I reserve judgment for Tuesday the Eleventh.

        • Sonydrone

          He is a member of Jim’s Defense force and will agree anything that Jim’s says just like any zealot.

          • Sperium3000

            Seriously? Defense force? Come on, man…

          • InfamousDS

            I am a member of Jim’s Defense Force as well. Unlike you, though, I am not an asshole.

          • Sonydrone

            I’m sorry for you 🙂

  • Benedict Vorauer

    Laylee is racist? Seriously Jim? Now animated Animals can be racist for making fun of shopping carts? I know that you identify with this whole social justice thingy and I don’t really mind the other parts of your critque they’re pretty much valid, but that racism part is just odd. All in all a good review, though. Keep up the great work.

    • bruce livingston

      He said immediately after that he was being facetious…

      • Sperium3000

        Eeeeeh.

    • Nobody’s Fanboy

      It was a snark about the JonTron controversy right before launch, if I had to guess.

  • Day_is_Over

    Snake Pass wins.

  • A Peanut Butter Sandwich

    This game sounded interesting, but in the sense that it was a modern BK. A new game with the same control and camera issues, without the guidance of the old games, sounds terrible.

    Hopefully the devs fix the camera/controls with a quick update. And between this and MN9, I am very, very worried about bloodstained.

  • Sperium3000

    Ok Jim, to give us a bit of context, and since you didn’t put it in the review: Did you play Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie? And if so, what do you think of them? Just out of curiosity.

    • BAH!

      There’s a couple mentions that imply he’s played at least one of them. But I was wondering the same thing, because if he didn’t like those, he’s absolutely not going to like this- with or without modern improvements.

      • Jerome Handy

        I disagree Bah. I know these games are nostalgia trips for a lot of people. But there’s nostalgia, and there’s just screwing up all over again. The mascot platformer was a bad game style in it’s heyday. It was, what the open world game is now, and the FPS was of last gen: a dumping ground of ideas, with very few of them actually panning out to do something unique.

        Now, if you WANT that experience, I understand it. There are people who still favor stuff like the original SF 2 before it went sequel-silly. The mechanics, good AND bad, are what made the game popular. But it’s insulting to hide under the nostalgia tree, when you don’t do anything to actually FIX the problems that time’s come up with decent solutions for.

        • BAH!

          I’m not saying Playtonic is justified, merely that the game was *heavily* advertised as a nostalgia trip. And if Jim wasn’t a fan of the original BK games, what were the chances he’d like this?

          Pretty bad, I’d say. And that’s fine.

          Personally, I’m getting my copy once I get a Switch (backer reward) so I’ll be able to tell for myself. And I’m confident my opinion will be more positive simply because I don’t mind a lot of what Jim talks about here.

  • Enuo

    I thought Jim wasn’t going to review this out of objectivity.

    • tech3475

      I always thought it was as long as it was disclosed?

    • Vinnie Vincent’s Dead Dog

      Objectivity only really matters if you’re giving it a positive review because you bought into it in my opinion.

    • CaitSeith

      He does that only for games where he has been invited to make a voiceover. In comparison, crowdfunding is more like pre-ordering (he is still paying for the game).

  • Apollo Justice

    Soooooo….christmas is cancelled?

  • Daniel

    As a backer, this is a shame.
    Seems it was ticking all the boxes of a good kickstarter as well.

  • tech3475

    In a sad way, this is just justifying my belief not to back anything on kickstarter outside of charity or you’re getting something which exists already.

    Sounds like another game I might get as part of something else (PS+, humble bundle, etc.) or when it’s in the discount bin and I’m curious.

    Shame as I was interested in seeing a modern take on an old 90s 3D platform game.

  • I really liked 3D platformers – or at least the idea of what 3d platformers could be. I was hoping this game would mark a renaissance.

    I guess not. 😞

    • Kevboard Arts

      Mario Odyssey 😉 that one will knock it out of the park

      • Daniel Gonzalez

        It sucks.

        • Kevboard Arts

          oh so that game that comes out in the end of this year sucks? great, thanks timetraveller!

          or should I say… fuck off? ya fuck off is better

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            No need to time travel. It simply sucks. 😉

          • El Gonzo

            Trigger-warning! Be aware of barking dogs. Or something…
            Frankly, the unimaginative responses here to “It sucks” suck. Yeah, i know. I shouldn’t launch a lame lament but rather suck it up, right…?

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Nothing to suck up. It just sucks.

        • Sned

          WOW! I can’t believe that you actually got to play the game! How did you even do that?!? Did you find a leaked copy or something? I’m astonished that you actually got to play a game that isn’t coming out for so long….

          Please – Please tell me your secret. I want to know how to play the game this early. You must simply be a master hacker, or possibly you work at Nintendo? Come on, tell us!

          • Daniel Gonzalez

            Okay, I’ll tell you. You see……it sucks.

    • Sned

      I’m still remaining hopeful for “A Hat in Time”. From what I’ve played of it, the game does a lot of work to improve and refine the controls.

    • Xoxarle

      Snake Pass seems pretty good. But it might be not what you’re looking for.

  • Kevboard Arts

    looked like shite from the very first gameplay to the very final trailer…
    but seems like this is what ppl wanted. the mercilessly underrated Rare games of the Xbox and 360 era that actually showed innovation and great ideas were hated for not being the exact overrated collectathon shit of the past… imo the only good games ever produced by Rare in the pre Xbox era were GoldenEye and Perfect Dark. and thise were held back by the hardware (Perfect Dark HD is so much better).

    Rare were amazing ever since they had the complete creative freedom Microsoft gave them (they said so themselves in interviews that MS let them do whatever). games like Viva Pinata and BK: Nuts & Bolts were innovative, fun and unlike anything out there, and certainly miles ahead of their collectathon bullshit like BK and DK64

    • A Peanut Butter Sandwich

      DK64 was a bit too repetitive, but BK and B2 were quite fun.

      nuts and bolts was hammered for being, well, a car racing game with the BK name. Fans were pissed that BK3 was nowhere to be seen, and instead this spinoff was the “sequel”. the world was big and empty for the most part, and it didnt feel finished.

      VP was fun, and it seems people agreed. Not sure why you think it was looked down upon.

      Aside from that, rare didnt really do anything innovative. We got grabbed by the goolies, which was junk, we got conker reloaded, which was just a remaster, and we got kinnect sports, which, well, its a kinect game.

      • Kevboard Arts

        Kameo was amazing aswell… and yes Nuts n Bolts was a bit of a mixed bag, but the whole vehicle building system was pretty innovative, later copied by some indie titles (can’t remember their names… one was calles Siege somethin…)

      • Tom James

        I really never understood the hate nuts&bolts got, i get it wasn’t the sequel people wanted, but it was a fun vehicle making, platformy thing that handled well, and allowed you a surprisingly large amount of creative freedom.

  • Box Block Games

    Welp, I’m regretting even back… thanks to this, I’m no longer going back ANY kickstarter.

  • Sned

    This makes me wonder about “A Hat In Time”. I’ve played a decent chunk of the game, and the polish seems quite outstanding. What that game needs to do, which Yooka-Laylee hasn’t, is keep the polish up throughout the whole game, rather than the vertical slice that they release beforehand.

    But hey, that game has been in development for twice as long, so I’ve still got hope.

  • Vince

    Now just hope Bloodstained will be aces or it will be a kickstarter disaster hattrick…

    • Kevboard Arts

      the demo that backers received looked like ass… and the artsgyle looks awful aswell when translated into 3D

      • Powermad80

        Except none of those things are true, it was damn great especially for an early E3 build. The artstyle looks very good.

  • Vinnie Vincent’s Dead Dog

    The last truly great platform game I played was Mario Galaxy to be honest.

    • ManuOtaku

      And probably among the best of all time.

    • Kevboard Arts

      I would say ReCore if it wasn’t released as unfinished as it did… but they are planning an enormous update it seems… so maybe it will be great afterall… ht they have to fix a lot!
      the controls are spot on tho, extremely crisp and precise

    • Silvershock

      I need to go back and try to get into Galaxy again. I couldn’t the first time because halfway into the first area I got that “Mario 64” feeling…..oh fuck, I’m going to be exiting and re-entering the same levels over and over and over again to match arbitrary collectible roadblocks, aren’t I?

      Can I have a straight side-scroller again, Nintendo? One where the challenge is beating the level and not sleepwalking past useless enemies to get more fucking stars? New Super Mario Bros? OK, I’ll try it…..

      Nintendo, why is this new sidescroller slow as shit?

      • Sned

        3D world, and Super Luigi U have you covered,

        • Silvershock

          I have recently picked up 3D World. Not gotten to it yet but I’ve heard good things. Then again, Nintendo could shit in a bag and label it “Mario” and I’d hear good things. 😉

    • Funtime Happysnacks

      For me it was Sunshine. Galaxy doesn’t even come close to SMS, neither did SM3DW. Nothing but predetermined paths with hardly any openness or reason to replay. If you’ve done a stage in Galaxy once that is always how it will play out. Because Mario’s movement options (even ignoring FLUDD) in Sunshine were his peak mobility, and everything since has been far more restrained (to prevent the player from escaping the linear paths and levels the devs want you to run.

  • I can’t help but feel like you’re being overly negative, or that you’re letting the bad parts get in the way of good parts, but then again, perhaps the good parts were never good to you at all. To me, from what I’ve seen, the humor of the game is the strongest part, and if that isn’t your thing, well, oh well. I know plenty of shit I think is funny but other people don’t.

    I’m also curious about how other versions of this game play; I’ve seen mostly Xbox One reviews of this game, not sure about PS4 or PC versions…

    • Vinnie Vincent’s Dead Dog

      If a game has bad parts, they can impact rather negatively on whatever good parts they may have. But I mean, come on, this game as a mine cart level for fuck sake. My standards were pretty low after that.

    • dougalicious

      Jim Sterling being overly negative? Never! To imagine some folks make a living off of cynicism & negativity on Patreon on YouTube…

  • Xoxarle

    I’ve pre-ordered it, played in toybox, it wasn’t particularly fun but it was unclear, is this because of meh level-design in toybox or it was the game itself. Well, refund system is here <3

  • Canneddirt

    Well shit. I was looking forward to this. Maybe Hat in Time won’t suck? Fingers crossed.

  • James Nettum

    Have there been any video game Kickstarters that have been good, or even passable? The only one I’ve backed in the past was Warmachine, and it isn’t good at all. I’m starting to regret backing System Shock.

    Thankfully I’ve enjoyed all of the table top games I’ve supported on Kickstarter. That seems to be a somewhat safer market to invest in.

    • Sned

      Wasteland 2 was pretty good.

    • Daniel

      HyperLight Drifter and Shantae are pretty decent IMO.

    • Canneddirt

      I thought Wasteland 2 was pretty excellent.

    • Benjamin Bretzell

      … Darkest Dungeon ?

    • Kevboard Arts

      Shovel Knight! the gift that keeps on giving!

    • Merzer

      Pillars of Eternity is pretty damn good.

    • Thimbleweed Park is getting pretty good reviews.

    • Captain Pipsqueak

      System Shock is at least a remake, so there’s probably not much they can fuck up there.

    • Kolbe Howard

      Pillars of Eternity was fantastic. Best RPG I’ve played in years. Didn’t feel hindered at all by the kickstarter budget.

    • Grim dawn, project nimbus, shovel knight, satellite reigns are the ones that stick in my mind

    • Robert Hendrie

      Many have turned out fine or great.

    • James Nettum

      Wow, I had forgotten about all of those. (Even PoE. I mean, damn…) Thanks!

    • FTL, Banner Saga, Shovel Knight, Hyper Lift Drifter, Divinity: Original Sin, Darkest Dungeon, Superhot, Broken Age, Wasteland 2, Kentucky Route Zero.

      • Crispman

        Ooh I forgot about FTL and Banner Saga.Is Banner Saga 2’s combat any better? I found it enjoyable but mediocre in number 1.

        • Haven’t played any of the Banner Saga games, honestly. Not a fan of tactics games. I just know they’re incredibly well done and popular. 🙂

        • Burt Humperdink

          The Long Dark was also good for its price point.

    • Silvershock

      I also backed System Shock – has it really had enough time yet to balls it up? Night Dive have been pretty reliably great at updating old games so far, but yeah, it’s going to be interesting to see how they do with a ground-up remake.

    • Crispman

      Darkest Dungeon is amazing, Don’t Starve is thought of highly by many (not that I’ve played it) and Oxygen Not Included looks very promising! Oh, and Kerbal Space Programme is glory to behold!

    • Artemiy

      No one mentioning Skullgirls? What’s wrong with you people?!

      • I don’t know what you’re talking about. *shifts eyes*

        • Artemiy

          Youuuuu magnifcent bastard I READ YOUR BOOK!

          • …wait, seriously?

          • Artemiy

            Unfortunately not. I took this particular phrase from Linkara’s comic reviews. ^_^

          • LOL. Oh. Because I actually HAVE two novels published. So that kinda threw me.

          • Artemiy

            Ooooh? That’s interesting! What are they about?

          • *dons shameless self-promotion hat*

            Kind of a mix of hard boiled detective mystery with Ninja Turtles. They star a mutant armadillo private detective named Dilbert Pinkerton (friends call him Dill). He digs for the truth.

            First book is called The City of Smoke & Mirrors.
            Second is called The Dame was a Tad Polish.

            I’m close to finishing the third, too.

          • Artemiy

            That sounds really weird! I love it!

          • InfamousDS

            It really is an amazing premise.

          • Shit, if I get book sales from this, at least something good happens because of this game. OH SNAP.

    • Oh! Skullgirls! That’s another. I don’t know what’s wrong with me to forget that.

    • Danny Carr

      FTL, Pillars of Eternity and Darkest Dungeon. I think Divinity Original Sin might have been a kickstarter as well.

    • Hywel Nevard

      Hollow Knight is one of the best games I have ever played, sadly not covered by many publications.

      • Linda Sofia Hartlén

        ^^ that so many times. How that isn’t a major hit i do not understand.

    • LatePocketwatch

      Undertale was exceptional, and used the fact it’s backers were nigh guaranteed to be familiar with old bit RPGs to its advantage. I’m hesitant to hold that up as an example because I don’t want Kickstarter to become Deconstruction Central, but having just beat it first time the other day I know it was technically sound.

    • CaitSeith

      Well, you have been given your answer: yes, and several. It seems the pattern is more about how overfunded the bad games have been. I think it was a mistake to have simultaneous releases on every promised platform.

    • Linda Sofia Hartlén

      Shadowrun Returns. fantastic three games that where kickstarted

    • Otherhand

      Sunless Sea. It’s intended for a person with a certain mindset, but it was a complete success in what it set out to be. With some games, that might mean a game that transcends its genre and pulls in people who don’t normally like that kind of thing, in the way that Rocket League bewitched people who hate sports games or The Witcher 3 ensnared people who don’t like fantasy RPGs. Sunless Sea isn’t one of those, but it was a great example of a crowd-funded game done well.

    • Caven

      People already provided lots of examples, but I’m adding Thimbleweed Park. It’s a great throwback to ’90s-era point-and-click adventure games that avoids a lot of the mistakes that used to plague the genre.

      Edit: Oops, I see after the fact that it was mentioned, even though I specifically looked for any references to it before typing this. Guess I should have used [CTRL-F].

    • Funtime Happysnacks

      Shantae Half Genie Hero, Shovel Knight, LISA the Painful, Undertale, the list is fucking endless. People really don’t know shit about this industry.

  • Fionntan Conway

    Oh dear…

  • Jiryn

    I admit I was rather interested in the game, but it seems like they learned nothing from the 32/64 bit era. I love Rare’s earlier games but… they were a bit obtuse and esoteric in their designs. There were many a time as a teen I just couldn’t figure out what I needed to do to get further in the games, and there was little to no sign posting or hints. Later levels were just horrible with the amount of steps you had to do you had to get a jiggy. (Yes, I’ve 100 both, but even as an adult I needed a guide or the ingame check list for a few of them)

    I was hoping the new game would have modernized the old game ideas, while keeping a healthy dose of platforming and exploration. Though the early impressions left me wanton, and the jokes + names seemed.. cringe worthy. I like low brow humor but.. I just wasn’t impressed.

    Still, even with all the bad reviews, I hope to try it myself, just to see how bad it is… though I’ll either wait for a sale or watch RedBox

  • Judging it by the response from other reviewers, it’s an above average platformer. A tad dated in some regards, but still very playable and charming. I didn’t agree when you reviewed Zelda, so I for one hope you are wrong about this game as well(based on my own taste in games, of course)…but I guess I’ll find out soon enough.

    • dougalicious

      Good stuff. Get a solid mix of reviews from folks & don’t put all your focus on how one person loved or hated it.

      • I agree. I do like to read the highest-scoring review as well as the lowest-scoring one, just to get an overall feel of the game. But the reason why Jims review won’t keep me from buying the game, as it was with Zelda, is that most of the stuff that bothered him in Zelda didn’t really bother me at all. Sure, I could understand where he was coming from and respected his opinion…but nope, the weapon degradation system never was a problem for me, just to pick one example. Even when he ranted on about it my thought was “wait…what? Is that supposed to be a problem?”.

        Perhaps I simply have a high tolerance for stuff that bothers other people. Having played games since 1983, and having experienced plenty of TRULY awful, broken games might be the reason why something as trivial as a “weapon degradation system” won’t take any joy away from perhaps the greatest gaming experience I’ve had since discovering the Demons Souls/Dark Souls-games.

        • mustbepbs

          I totally understand your second paragraph, but as far as Jim’s concerned on playing “truly awful games”, that’s basically what he does other than Jimquisition lol. I’m surprised with all of the complete garbage games he plays that he gave Zelda a 7/10. It’s probably because he came from playing Nier and Nioh which he gushed over.

          • Matrim

            It’s also because 7 is a good score by his metric, whereas a lot of outlets reserve anything under 8 for shit games.

          • Games are probably as with boy/girlfriends…if you really like a person, you tend to overlook “imperfections” and focus on the good stuff. Jim doesn’t hold Nintendo in very high regard(and at times, who can really blame him), and that might affect his enjoyment of a game such as Zelda…which I think is natural. And it will make you focus more intently on shortcomings or faults you most likely would overlook in other games.
            Of curse, I’m not saying that is what happened here…but in the end we are all just human and these sort of biases are what being human is all about. And that’s ok.
            In another game stuff that I give a free pass in Zelda would probably bother me a lot more. I’m no fanboy…but yeah, I do give Nintendo a free pass in certain areas 🙂

    • Danny Carr

      Good attitude to have; one reviewers opinion doesn’t automatically decide a games value especially if you disagree with them consistently. Judging by Jims and letsplayvideogames reviews it seems a big part of liking it is how you much a game similar mechanically to a N64 game would annoy someone.

      On the whole I tend to like the same games as Jim. Not always for example I didn’t think Assassins Creed 2 was a bad game like Jim did.

      If you consistently disagree with Jim then that’s kinda a sign you’ll likely like games he doesn’t and hate ones he does. John Walkers on RPS is like that for me, I often come away with a different opinion than he does :).

    • InspectorNorse

      Most other reviews I’ve read agree with Jim but are afraid of being negative since people need to be affirmed. I mean the aggregate sites are averaging this game well below average. I really wish all the attention and fans this game got could have gone to Thimbleweed Park, which actually did something productive with nostalgia.

      • Now THAT we can agree upon, that Thimbleweed Park deserves a helluva lot more attention than it actually got. It looks wonderful and I cannot wait to check it out 🙂

  • But at least they removed that nazi Jontron from the game, so that’s got to be worth at least, I dunno, two point…oh.

    • Andy24

      TIL Jontron’s a nazi. What?! since when?

      • Hunter Mearo

        Since the internet started calling people nazis based on a persons conservative opinions, no matter how slightly or drastically they lean to the right…

        • InfamousDS

          Telling people not to mix their genes with ours couldn’t be more Nazi if it was trying. That is quite literally the point of being a Nazi.

          • Crispman

            If you want a better and more specific phrase for the NAZI perspective of that idea use “pro-eugenics”

          • InfamousDS

            I can and will concede this point. Not many others will.

          • Crispman

            I wasn’t having a go, it’s just a more descriptive term for that ideology. The term Nazi can relate to a lot of things. 🙂

          • CaitSeith

            It certainly did. But everything related had the common element that they were just means for an end: to portray themselves as superior and more important in every conceivable aspect.

          • Crispman

            I think the same can be said for the use of the term (regarding the internet) SJW. To me they’ve becoming meaningless sides of the same coin, i.e. terms that can be thrown from either side with the sole purpose to insult someone without thought or clarification or articulation. This is assuming your not talking about ACTUAL Nazis.

          • CaitSeith

            Yes, I’m talking about actual WW2 Nazis. Science, pseudo-science, history, religions, and even more obscure research was used to portray themselves as superior to any other race by design, by nature, by divine selection, by any reasoning that you can imagine. They had to convince themselves first that they were in the right and that everyone else in the world was wrong. Any writing that stated the opposite was collected and burned as a public festivity; a celebration of misinformation and willful ignorance.

          • Mr_SP

            He hasn’t. Might I remind you that he’s of Iranian descent? His issues are of a social and religious nature, not genetic.

          • InfamousDS

            “Immigrants shouldn’t mix their genes with ours” has no religious connotation. It also isn’t social, because he didn’t say they shouldn’t integrate into our culture but that we should keep our actual genetic heritage pure.

            You can be a dumbass regardless of your parentage.

          • Mr_SP

            And yet I cannot find any source that corroborates that statement. I highly suspect that Jontron has never said that.

          • InfamousDS

            Several people took quotes directly from the live stream and posted them in the comments section of the article Jim wrote.
            That one came up a lot.

          • Mr_SP

            So, not something you’ve heard yourself, or have heard from a trustworthy source. Someone said it in a comment section. And you just paraphrased it. That’s not facts, that’s rumor.

            It’s about average for proof given in a comment section, but not very convincing.

          • InfamousDS

            If it was one person, I wouldn’t say it to someone else. It came up a LOT. By several different people, in several different arguments. Both those who agreed and those who did not.

            Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

          • Mr_SP

            No, it isn’t evidence of absence. And yet, there is a burden of proof.

            As for the “quote”, I looked at those comments. There are a couple of people “paraphrasing” Jon as having said those things. Yet I haven’t found much in the way of a link or timestamp. It is extremely difficult to sift through them, though.

            I’m perfectly willing to say that JonTron was giving his argument poorly. God knows he’s no political heavyweight. And yet, being racist, being biased against mixed race couples, when he is a mixed race child… That’s just not believable with so little proof.

          • CaitSeith

            www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=6RQA9GZprqM&t=3740

          • Mr_SP

            It sounds a lot like JonTron isn’t sure what he’s talking about and stumbles over himself. He stumbles a LOT. He is entirely unprepared. He has serious issues with his choice of words. Yet, he says “people are free to choose” [their sexual partners], he actively denies Destiny’s accusations of racism.

            He explicitly states, only a minute after that time stamp, that he would be perfectly fine with 100,000,000 black people coming into the United States, if they immediately integrated into the society. This was Destiny’s *own example*. They proceed to *agree on this point*.

            It seems to me, at least from that segment, that Destiny thinks we should improve integration, and so should allow great amounts of integration, whereas Jon feels that we can’t improve integration sufficiently, and so should control integration. It seems fairly clear that it’s a social issue for Jon, not a racial one.

          • CaitSeith

            Don’t mind me. I just brought the source of the quote. Although I agree that “but then they would enter the gene pool” is definitely a bad choice of words.

          • Mr_SP

            I appreciate you linking it, and I’m not trying to say you did anything wrong. I’m just commenting on the video in case Infamous reads this.

            It’s a good showing of why celebrities don’t publicly comment on their politics. They just don’t have the experience to explain themselves clearly, and the audience doesn’t have the experience to reliably judge their intent without trying to force their own biases.

            Jon may be using gene pool as a metaphor for the social groups and interbreeding populations that people select their sexual partners from, which is not “wrong” (see: “plenty more fish in the sea”, which has a similar concept), but also not consistent with how most people interpret that, which is references to racial groups.

            All in all, Jon doesn’t seem to be a racist, so much as concerned about immigrants forming segregated groups with insular communities and not cooperating with the US government, which is an issue well worth considering. And I’m a little thankful that Jon is a comedian, and not a politician.

          • CaitSeith

            Yeah, but “entering the gene pool” conveys the opposite meaning to segregation. Your metaphor doesn’t help to clarify me this, as interbreed can mean both crossbreed and inbreed. I’m not assuming that JonTron is racist; but he shouldn’t blame others for misunderstanding his choice of words and paint himself as a victim. It’s not the audience responsibility to judge the correct intent; it’s the speaker’s responsibility to use the words that make their meaning to convey the proper intent, or else communication fails.

          • Hunter Mearo

            Did he say that? If ya could point me to where/when that’d be chill.
            If true, it would make him a puritan, he still doesn’t believe in an “Arian” race last I checked…

      • Mr_SP

        He’s not. He has a harder stance on immigration than is considered acceptable by many liberals. He is not racist. He does not advocate violence against immigrants.

        • Kyle Barnabas Mulholland

          He also touts the whole white genocide thing and made up a fact about how rich blacks commit more crimes than poor whites but yeh, ‘not racist’.

        • Otherhand

          He thinks wealthy black people are more likely to be criminal than any white people. He trailed off during a comment about gene pools because even he realised he was wading into eugenics territory. He trotted out tales about Mexicans moving to take back US states which are straight from the discussion centres of racist communities.

          That’s not being, I don’t know, “conservative”, or “concerned about immigration” or something. That should be condemned.

      • Don’t look into it; there is only sadness there.

      • El Gonzo

        I guess it was a typing mistake. Daavpuke probably wanted to say that they removed the zany JonTron from the game; but his fingers got all tangled up while typing…

      • Crispman

        To be clear, he never announced himself as an actual Nazi as far as I’m aware. He just randomly came out and said a load of somewhat extreme and underdeveloped views mainly regarding immigration and race on Twitter. It was noted that it seems like he was more thinking aloud rather than shouting out firmly held beliefs. He then went on to have a debate with some other youtuber but it was apparently obvious that he hadn’t researched his own views. It was also thought by some that his debate “opponent” had researched far too much for the kind of discussion that was initially proposed. From what I’ve heard I wouldn’t call his views “conservative” but I’m British, not American so…

        • Justin Graham

          He doesn’t need to declare himself a Nazi to have Nazi-like beliefs. It’s like how white supremacists have started using the label “alt-right.” It makes them sound less overtly racist even though they’re the same POS racists they’ve always been.

          • Crispman

            No, I know that. I just wanted to relay the information that I’ve heard without misconstruing anything with interpretable phrasing

  • Vaughan MacDonald

    ….. Fuck.

  • Crispman

    The video footage of people playing it did make the game seem very “empty”. You’d think that they’d have done a better job considering.

  • Chris Chen

    DDOS incoming…

    • InfamousDS

      DDOS either in progress or already over. I can’t tell, I’m on Disqus proper.

  • Iftekhar Ahmed

    Go play Persona 5. It’ll make you feel better.

    • ATBro

      It’s the only real solution.

  • Hunter Zolomon

    Damn didn’t see that coming, seems to be getting mixed views from critics so i might just wait and see what my friends say who get it.

  • Nacthenud

    Wow, reviews on this one are all over the map. Guess it’s one I’ll have to try for myself to see what I think.

  • Andy24

    From what I can gather, you can boil down this game to this:

    Do you like the ol’ clunky N64 Rare platformers? Neat, here’s another one.

    Were you among the few who was never into them? This is the same game with another coat of paint.

    I never really liked how Rare took the elegant design of Mario 64 and decided to overly rely on collecathon elements to make the player feel somewhat accomplished. Either way, part of me wants to try this one out myself. Not only my taste tends to differ from Jim but reviews seem to be all over the place with this one.

    • Dr Dub

      Those are exactly my thoughts of what they did with Banjo and why I was never a fan.

    • Crispman

      In what way is it all over the place?

      • Andy24

        There’s positive ones, negatives, average, etc. I think that’s super cool! Because it highlights we all have different tastes, but it also drives the point home that you may wanna read a bunch of them first to see whether the game may cater to you.

        In my case, I sorta want to play it… However, as I’ve stated, I was never a huge fan of the Banjo games to begin with, so I may totally hate this one as well.

        • Sonydrone

          Only 47 points away from metascore, you are very right /s

        • Crispman

          Oh right you mean between people. I thought you meant in this review

    • Tony Russo

      Yeah, I’ve always preferred smaller amounts of more meaningful collectibles myself. Anything with more random stuff to grab than Yoshi’s Island and I have a hard time getting into it. I’ll probably give Yooka-laylee a shot anyway. I’m a sucker for indie platformers.

      Speaking of which, Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment releases on steam tomorrow.

  • Nimbus

    Reading his review feels like a long time baseball fan went to the Superbowl and gave it a shit review because the ball wasn’t round. Jim’s out of touch with what makes the Banjo collectathons so good, he doesn’t understand the appeal.

    • Or – OR – he might just – now stay with me on this one – he just might not like games with bad level design, dated mechanics, horrific camera, and awful platforming controls.

      • Xirbtt

        Or – OR- he might just – now stay with me on this one – be giving his opinion and people actually enjoyed this game quiet a bit and his word is not law.

        • Where did I say his word was law?

          • El Gonzo

            You just did. Right here in your comment. You wrote “…his word was law…”. Your words, not mine! 😉

          • Xirbtt

            You stated all of his opinions from the review. Unless, you’ve played it as well?

          • Right, HIS opinions. I never said they were mine. I never made any kind of bold claim like he was out of touch.

          • InfamousDS

            Disengage. They like arguing and telling people they are wrong.

          • “You’re right! We don’t like arguing!”
            “…wait, what?”

          • Xirbtt

            You quoted them as if they are true and not subjective opinions? Do you get this?

          • I repeated his thoughts because that’s who I was referring to. His review. Not my own opinions. Looking at it again, you’re right, I should’ve at least put that in quotes.

            We’re getting away from the original point, which was to mock the person who couldn’t seem to handle Jim having his own opinion.

          • Xirbtt

            Nah, I can totally handle it fine. You seem to think I’m someone else? I know you really want to bash people who just yell about objective reviews. I’m not one of them. Sorry. You failed. D:

          • …I have no idea what you’re talking about at this point.

          • Xirbtt

            You are just sad. You think I’m one of those easy to dismiss people and you came at me with strawmen argument you wish I was saying. 🙁 I’m sorry you are confused. Best to put down the internet for today.

          • If you looked again, you’ll see I responded a second time when I re-read your post and realized what you were saying.

          • Ah, now that I’ve thought about it, you seem to think my statement “mock the person” was about you. It wasn’t remember Nimbus? The guy I responded to originally? That’s who I was mocking at the very beginning. You happened to join in to make some kind of point.

            My original point is that he claimed Jim just doesn’t like those classic collectathons, when the truth is that the game itself is – according to Jim – very poorly designed.

      • Nimbus

        T H A T
        I S
        T H E
        A P P E A L
        you knobhead

        • I don’t find bad level design, dated mechanics, horrific camera, and awful platforming controls very appealing. I don’t see how anyone could.

    • Miles Saintborough

      So what does make the Banjo collectathons good then?

      • InfamousDS

        For me, it is the things Jim hated.
        Funny but not award-winning dialog, silly premise (in many things including plot and characters), large but not overly so and distinctly separate worlds, a wide variety of collectible objects and goals, a decent variety of side diversions which build on each other, and a straight-forward progression system that doesn’t rely on RPG mechanics. For Rare specifically, I have a fondness for the gibberish voices. Conker BFD, despite being an amazing game, kind of threw me for a loop by being fully voiced.

        • reallydude?

          This is why Jim should have left his review unrated. He clearly didn’t want any of this stuff to begin with, so he throws out a terrible score because he doesn’t want a 90s reboot? I’m honestly perplexed that he even backed the game. Was it not obvious from the onset that this was going to be this type of game?

          • InfamousDS

            No, it hasn’t been obvious until recently and even then only subtly. I remember hearing in early interviews that while they wanted to continue the tradition, they were also willing to grow the genre because they were free from a publisher stranglehold and they could corner the market.

            It could have either been feature creep due to the budget, money being wasted on ideas which never made it into the game, or just a fear/realization that deviating from what they knew would in turn create a bigger divide. I will know my own opinion in a week, until then this is all I can offer.

        • That’s a good point. It seems like this is one of those games that very specifically banks on you liking something to enjoy it.

          The same way I enjoy, say, a visual novel, other people wouldn’t. I might give a game a 9/10 but others might give it, well.. a 2/10.

          • InfamousDS

            Jim refers to practices like this in Spin-Off Doctors as “assuming you already know what to expect because you have already seen movies like this one”. He considers it a detriment and a reason the director could be reasonably accused of not trying hard enough.
            But sometimes, you’ve just gotta go with what you like.

      • ATBro

        Nostalgia. Once you get past that, those games don’t have much to offer.

      • Nimbus

        It feels like most of these reviewers just don’t get it. These are things I think most of us are excited for:
        *Sampled gibberish voices
        *Silly, exaggerated character designs
        *The dry wit of Playtonic’s British humor
        *A variety of difficulty in challenges
        *The game doesn’t tell you where to go
        It seems like almost every review I’ve seen takes issue with one or more of these things. This is a pretty clear example of the weaknesses of numbered rating systems, as they don’t seem to be accounting for the game’s audience. There’s certainly good stuff in a few of these reviews, but most of what we’ve seen so far appears out of touch with what we want and expect from this game. There are only two consistent issues I’ve seen as cons which we should take seriously:
        *Fiddly camera behavior
        *Subpar performance on consoles
        Even then, most reviewers say they don’t hurt the overall experience very much. For the most part, lower reviews tend to be from people who simply miss the point of what this game is supposed to be. So, in some sense, this post is a reminder not to be too worried about some of the numbers you’re seeing as a few of them are from what I would call ‘anti-fans’. This is also an invitation to have a meta-discussion about the merits and downsides of Yooka Laylee’s review coverage so far.

  • James Roman

    I saw this coming a mile away. First Mighty No.9, now Yooka-Laylee…and in the future possibly Bloodstained. All Kickstarter games that turned out crappy, by the people who created a beloved franchise and are now depending purely on nostalgia to sell their product.

    • Slap My Chips Up

      The only plus side is at least Bloodstained ended up delaying the game because it wasnt ready apparently. I backed it but am really starting to regret it.

  • Artemiy

    Wow.
    I’m sorry Jim, and everyone who backed this game and expected better from it. No sarcasm, no fedora tipping, no venom. I’m genuinely sorry. The promotions looked fun, and the expectations seemed to be high.

  • LatePocketwatch

    Suppose we can hope the one thing they do draw from contemporary times is day one patches.

  • Max Waller

    this would have been a 1/10, but because it’s on a portable it got an extra point

    • Alex

      Is not on a portable

      • Ben

        yes it is

    • EmperorSRB

      It got 2/10 because it’s not an absolute disaster, just a disaster.

  • Xirbtt

    Sad you didn’t enjoy it, definitely looks like my kind of game. I can’t wait to give it a try.

  • Fail

    You know I always come here because you actually understand what critique is but I have to ask. Might your opinion of this game be colored by the fact you’re a little jaded by either the death of the Banjo-Kazooie series or the fact that yet another Kickstarter game has “failed” to meet expectations.

    • EmperorSRB

      It might, and that’s called an opinion.
      That’s the very reason why you should always use multiple sources to check on something, and not only one.
      I must say that I mostly agree with him on this one.

    • ATBro

      Why would either of those thing matter? You’re saying that he reviewed it as poor because it’s a Kickstarter game that failed to meet expectations. That’s a bit of the snake eating it’s own tail right there. It also ignored that therehave been a grip of really good games from Kickstarter.

      • Fail

        Obv as of writing this I haven’t played the game so I’m mostly speculating. I can understand with all these issues it’s pretty rough but 2 out of 10 rough? To me a 2 out of 10 is like I would rather gouge out my own eyes with rusty spoons than play this anymore.

    • reallydude?

      To me it seems he is just jaded by the fact that Playtonic is creating a modern 90s game. Most of the review only talks about the fact it’s an old school game and how Playtonic shouldn’t try to revive platformers. This is a review I will put on the ignore list because it’s a 2/10 primarily because Jim doesn’t want an old school platformer.

      • BrunoXX

        That is not true. He dislike it, because in his opion it has bad play controls, bad camera controls and bad designed levels, not because he doesn’t want an old school platformer (if you didn’t notice: he backed this game on kickstarter).

  • Riosine

    So in synthesis jim review is; Fixed cameras suck, and are terrible annoying.

    Meanwhile the Ty theTasmanian tiger PC port got full mouse support and you can easily maneuver throught just by holding W and strafing by rotating the camera with the mouse

    Bad controllers/cams kill the fun in games.

    • EmperorSRB

      No, it’s mostly this game plays and feels like it was made 20 years ago, and not today.
      Which is a bad thing, considering 20 years ago is not today.

      • Riosine

        … And 20 years ago you had constrictive camera and controls problems in most games especially non-PC 3D games.

    • Crispman

      Do you mean in essence?

  • Hoxton

    You’re a miserable sod, Jim. If you think I’m going to fantasise about you while I masturbate tonight you’re very much mistaken!

    • Yes you will. We all masturbate to the thought of Jim.

    • ATBro

      Go ahead. Try to not think of him. It’s much easier said than done.

    • Crispman

      POUNDING IT!!!!

  • Rainbow_Lizard

    It feels to me like this game is a victim of its own success. If it wasnt so successful on kickstarter and didnt get so much media buzz, people probably wouldnt have expected more than what’s essentially a Banjo remake, complete with all the caveats of that. Unfortunately, people have been expecting some incredible revival of the 3d platformer genre that will top every other.

    • BrunoXX

      It’s been sold so in the previews & interviews with the devs…..

  • Xell

    So. It’s the first Banjo-Kazooie with all of the parts that made Banjo-Kazooie not perfect at the time and those points were perfectly tolerable at the time because of it being a leap into something new, emphasized now by the fact that time has passed and we’ve gotten better at game design? I think I’ll just plug in my old N64 and play Banjo-Kazooie with it’s nasty-but-more-endearing bird and quiz section I didn’t like but will tolerate for nostalgia.

    If I have any interest in this game anymore it’s just to watch a let’s play… just to see if Jim is right, because it seems like quite a few critics have this opinion. I’m glad I didn’t back it, because I was being cautiously optimistic. But I’ll be even more cautiously optimistic and just remove it from my Steam wishlist and see how other people act about it.

  • nickwood

    So, did you give this a bad score because you don’t understand the context of the game (that is, you’re basically saying this game is Banjo Kazooie which is apparently a bad thing, but the game never claimed to be anything other than that) or because you wanted page views?

    • EmperorSRB

      Tell me again, what does Jim get from page views exactly ?

      • amb

        I’m sure he’s got the logic worked out in his mind, somehow.

      • Benedict Vorauer

        That one is easy: Money.
        Even if he doesn’t get ad revenue, he still may get new people who like and follow his stuff, those may become patreons, which leads to more… you guessed it correctly: Money

    • Jiryn

      It’s more of, the game hasn’t grown or evolved since Banjoo Kazooie.. it’s literally more of the same without any modern growth and improvements seen in other Genres.

    • amb

      Oh dear lord, you’re going for the ““GOTTA GET DEM PAGE VIEWS!” argument, because Yooka Yaylee is one of the biggest blockbuster releases of the year, apparently, and intentionally giving it a negative will finally score give ‘ole Jim the fame exposure he’s always wanted, but never got.

      Still, “page views” is a free space, and I’ve finally got a bingo on my “Jim Sterling hate comments” card, so thanks for the help on that!

    • BrunoXX

      That’s wrong. The Devs always said it’s a modern approach to the genre….he doesn’t like it, because it’s not.

  • British Ninja

    Lower than mighty number 9 ?
    you absolute wild card

    • Artemiy

      Guess this game made Jim cry like an anime fan on prom night.

      NO THIS JOKE ISN’T CRINGY AND DATED HOW DARE YOU!

    • 09philj

      I think Jim may have hated Mighty Number 9 more, but he hated it so much he didn’t even finish it and gave the review to Laura.

  • sweetbabyroy

    Ah, Jim. You’re the authoritarian-liberal equivalent of an edgelord. Congrats on finding enough nitpicks to justify giving this game such an abysmal score.

    • Daniel

      I always fail to find the logic behind comments like this.

      • He just needed to call Jim a fat c*ck to fill my bingo card.

        • Jiryn

          I was going to call him the cock of the walk, but I didn’t realize that was also an insult.

          • Cockwalker, on the other hand, sounds like some kind of amazing Moonwalker parody using Jim.

            Also, the censoring was for the word c u c k, which is moderated.

    • Piratepoots

      He didn’t like the game. Dear lord, call the opinion police!

      • Jiryn

        Nah, the free thought police will hear of this!

        • EmperorSRB

          I’ve called them already ! He’ll be taken in shortly !

      • sweetbabyroy

        Ain’t nobody policing thoughts. Just pointing out his silly bullshit

        • Piratepoots

          I Don’t think having a strong dislike of the things he “nitpicked” to be silly bullshit and I’m someone who will love the game based on his “nitpicks.”

      • Sonydrone

        He didn’t like the review. Dear lord, call the opinion police!

        • Piratepoots

          Nice rib. Could care less. 😉

          • So you’re saying you have the ability to care less about this? Me thinks you meant “couldn’t” care less.

            OH SHIT, SOMEONE CALLED THE GRAMMAR POLICE. Wee-ooo! Wee-ooo! Wee-ooo!

          • Piratepoots

            Shit. You’re right.

    • Jiryn

      A lot of review companies are tearing this game apart for the archaic gameplay and design.. Jim just had a strong dislike of the lack of growth compared to it’s peers… which really only is Mario if you think about it

      • 09philj

        Just goes to show that while Nintendo may not be setting the world on fire, Mario is at least keeping up with contemporary game design standards. Mario 3D World is many things, but it is not fundamentally flawed.

        • Jiryn

          Honestly, I felt 3D World was one of the best Mario games ever and loved it quite a bit.
          It felt more traditional than the overly used “Find Star” gimmick of other modern Mario, but even those all were well built and fun.

    • EmperorSRB

      Broken camera, terrible level design, awful and stupid combat, etc. Those are just nitpicks, right ?

      • sweetbabyroy

        Yes, aside from level design which I suspect is Jim delving into hyperbole, those are very much intellectually dishonest nitpicks to hurl at a budget collectathon platformer. And don’t forget Laylee is racist (but not rly[but kind of lol!])

        • Intellectually dishonest? What the hell does that even mean?

        • Daniel

          “Budget”
          It’s £35 fucking pounds.

          • Artemiy

            35 pounds fucking pounds?

          • POUNDING IT!!!

          • Crispman

            POUNDING IT!!!

          • sweetbabyroy

            Idk what pounds are but mate it’s forty fucking doll hairs.

          • Michael Alexander Seiler

            Look at Richy Rich over here, busy berating people not wanting to spend money on games that living up to expectations.

          • sweetbabyroy

            Who said anything about money?

          • 09philj

            You can buy Pillars of Eternity for that.

            Pillars of Eternity is also an homage to Baldur’s Gate.

        • Jiryn

          Just because the game is cheaper, or not AAA, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be held to the same standards of decency and fun as other games.
          Shovel Knight would also be considered “Budget” but it was far better than many of the 2D platformers released recently, and far, and away better than Mighty No. 9

    • I don’t see how bad framerate and a crap camera are nitpicks either. Salty much?

      • sweetbabyroy

        They are total nitpicks for this genre, yeah. This isn’t a PlatinumGames hack n slash it’s a collectathon made in Unity. I love Deadly Premonition Director’s Cut and yet it runs at 5 frames.

        Am I salty? That’s a childish thing to say. Anyway, I cannot wait to play this silly cartoon jumping game.

        • BrunoXX

          Sorry, but bad frame rate & crap camera is always bad for a 3D plattformer. Deadly Premonition is an other genre and lives mostly from his story and atmosphere….

    • Danny Carr

      Combat, controls, level design, platforming, camera and puzzle design were all criticised. None of them are nitpicks they’re major parts of a game. If all have problems?

      Then he disliked the humour, minigames, dialogue, the controls in the minigames and the sidekick and it has performance on top of his other complaints.

      The only positive he really gave it was it’s colourful and the music. How could he have justified giving it any higher considering the list of complaints?

      • sweetbabyroy

        Trust me, if he could get away with listing the music as a neg, he would have.

        • Michael Lane

          Why should we trust you? Is your opinion empirically “better”?

          • sweetbabyroy

            Well for one, I don’t have thousands of authoritarian ideologues defending my outlandish antics at every turn, attacking anyone who dare questions my views. So yes.

        • Matrim

          Speaking of edgelords…

          • sweetbabyroy

            Go on

  • mrskwid

    so it sound’s like if you played banjo and don’t mind it’s problems then it’s a fine game.
    but i did’t so that’s okay i can still play snake pass.
    oh and here’s hoping blood stained is good.

  • Yosef Al-masoud

    Damn Jim… someone will rape you in the night for this

  • after the jontron fiasco this grants me happiness

  • oof

    sometimes i take shits so big that i start to pass out on the toile https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c21b2e7f0ecc626be09c715f0f85f12cb3ed891bf27a4d56f9485d074d94a9c5.jpg t

    • Well, that’s getting flagged.

    • Crispman

      When did you photograph my toilet?!

    • hentailover6969! fakku.net

      sometimes i take a shit so big i call it yooka-laylee

    • Dave Dogge

      AnaLOG Suicde.

  • 09philj

    I think a good contrast, in a roundabout way, is Skullgirls. Skullgirls is Street Fighter II. The mechanics and controls are pretty much unchanged. However, in other areas, Lab Zero’s effort is refined from Capcom’s arcade classic to present something newer and better. Animation is smoother and more detailed, characters are more outlandish and imaginative, and the storytelling is probably my favourite in a fighting game. These also serve to differentiate the game from it’s predecessor, and the marketing for the game isn’t entirely based around it being a redux of classic SF.

    • Caven

      I don’t think that example really works. The mechanics are unchanged only so far as a joystick is used for movement, buttons are used for attacking, and the goal is to land attacks on your opponents until their health bar is depleted. Skullgirls is way faster than Street Fighter II ever was, has much more flexible movement, and like most modern fighting games is very combo-heavy. Street Fighter II predates official combo support, and feels like a much more sluggish game.

      I think a better example is the recently released Thimbleweed Park. It’s a love letter to ’90s-era adventure games, while largely avoiding the problems of the era. Their stated goal was to make a game that felt like it could have been an undiscovered gem from LucasArts’ (more accurately LucasFilm at the time) heyday. Having played the original Maniac Mansion again just a few weeks ago, I can say Thimbleweed Park feels much like a game cut from the same cloth, while yet moving far beyond the design flaws of the era.

      • 09philj

        I think Skullgirls does retain enough of the original SF II formula to be directly compared. It’s just that since it’s come much later, elements that were invented by the SF II community have been frontloaded into the game design.

        • Caven

          Is there a specific version of Street Fighter II you’re thinking of? Because I’m thinking of vanilla SFII with only eight playable characters and the bosses as CPU characters only You couldn’t even do mirror matches in that version. When I tried playing SFII again last year (I used to play it when it was new), my modest skill in SFIV didn’t help me at all. In fact, I think my familiarity with modern fighting games actually made me worse at SFII than I was back then. I’d argue that a sequel in the Street Fighter series is going to be a lot closer to SFII than Skullgirls is. Skullgirls has stuff like air dashes and some unorthodox moves (like controlling a severed head) that one is unlikely to find in SFII or any of its sequels.

  • Adam Robert Sherman

    …so, should we expect the next Jimquisition on Kickstarter backfires?

    • 09philj

      To be fair, Yooka-Laylee did everything right except make a good game. That’s the way things happen sometimes.

      • Jiryn

        You can everything you can correctly and still lose.

    • Jiryn

      Kickstarted MissStarts?

    • More like KickSTOPPERS, am I right?

    • ATBro

      Kcickstarter has nothing to do with it though. The way that a game gets funded should not have any bearing on your opinion of it once it’s out. The development isn’t being critiqued, the game is. Besides that, there have been a number of great games funded on kickstarter, so how do you account for that in this scenario? Hyper Light Drifter was one of the be games from last year.

      • CaitSeith

        I think it’s because they got overfunded. That raises expectations, ambitions and pressure; sometimes to a level beyond the developer’s capacities.

        • BrunoXX

          That is maybe very true…..

  • Speaking of Kickstarted games, how do people feel about Broken Age now that some time has passed? I backed it, quite enjoyed all the documentaries on its development, and enjoyed the game as a final product. I didn’t like that they released it in two parts, but in the long-term, it hardly matters since it’s all out now. I enjoyed the game, personally, and was happy to have backed it.

    • ATBro

      It’s really good, though once the twist is out it lost a lot of it’s intrigue.

      • Agreed. I only fully played through it the once. I enjoyed it, but it’s not a game with a lot of replay value.

        • ATBro

          Yeah. I might rethink the replayability farther down the line, but I see no real reason to go back to it. And that’s fine.

  • Piratepoots

    I’m going to love the game by the sound of it, considering I love and still play the Banjo games. But those are perfectly acceptable “nitpicks” (as some are saying) to not like the game.

  • ATBro

    I’m not going to give them shit for making the game that they did. They wanted to make a new version of a thing they made way back when, and they did just that. he problem, like Jim said, is that things have moved on significantly in the 19 years since that original game came out, and making that same thing just doesn’t equal a good game these days. It’s debatable if it was even good back then. It always felt to me like a very poor man’s Mario 64. It had big levels with things to collect, but where M64 had just getting to challenging areas and completing puzzles to get the stars, Banjo just put shit everywhere and the challenge came from if you could persevere over the mechanical shortcomings to actually get the dumb things with stupid names. And boy oh boy does everthing have stupid fucking names in those games.

  • Adam Robert Sherman

    On a random note, there’s a tiny part of me overjoyed at this and MN9 doing badly – simply because it backs the idea that homage is just a pretentious way of saying rip-off.

    • 09philj

      To be fair, there are good homages out there. Stardew Valley is Harvest Moon and is brilliant. Skullgirls is Street Fighter II and is brilliant. DOOM is DOOM and is brilliant. However, all of these games built on what had come before to make a game that brings the appeal of the originals into the modern age.

      • 09philj

        Oh, and Pillars of Eternity is Baldur’s Gate.

        • Landy Alexander

          Yeah, the problem isn’t homages, it’s self homages. Making a game that is an homage to a game you already made isn’t a good idea.

    • Andy McAwesome

      I think homage is actually really fantastic. The old guard trying to recapture their former glory is what’s really awful; we see it in films, books, and comics, too. Homages to The Dark Knight Returns are actually, usually, pretty good. The sequels to The Dark Knight Returns that Frank Miller wrote himself? Utter piss.

  • Joao Oliveira

    Wow. I was not counting on a review like this at all, all signs pointed it was going to be an amazing game.

  • Uncle Andross

    So better wait for A Hat In Time then, gotcha.

  • gasmaskangel

    Ouch. I know a few people who were really looking forward to this.

    I almost wonder if it’d be better for a kickstarter to fail than to produce a dreadful end product, at least in a complete crash and burn you can still wistfully look back on the potential instead of feeling like a fool for investing in something that, through no fault of your own, turned out to be garbage.

    • ctrlSHIFT

      People need to understand that kickstarter isn’t investing, it’s donating.

  • RipTide

    2nd big name kickstarter game to come out, 2nd big name kickstarter to fail… Well that’s a bit unfortunate.

    I was really hoping this would be good so AAA publishers would maybe start giving the go ahead to these kinds of games again, guess it wasn’t meant to be.

    • anomalous material

      If you look on Opencritic, it is sitting around 72 I think. So not failed at all. I think this is going to be a very polarising game, though. Basically Marmite in interactive format.

      Wait, that’s a terrible analogy. I hate Marmite!

    • Rioplats

      Check out multiple sources before consigning the game to the rubbish bin lol. ACG noted its glaring issues too, specifically the camera and design decisions, but had a generally positive overview. As we’ve all been telling BotW fans, one review isn’t the end of the world, right? 😛

    • Char Aznable

      Elite Dangerous, Wasteland 2, and Divinity: Original Sin 2 have all done very well and were highly funded. Broken Age was THE original kickstarter game and while it has a mixed legacy it wasn’t a debacle. Shovel Knight has been a massive success (but it was only funded with about $80k initially). Bloodstained look promising but who knows.

  • anomalous material

    I really am interested in what I get from the game. I bought for my girls, and they have already loved the basically empty void that is the toybox. I also never played any of the original games, so am coming in without the any nostalgia for games long passed.

    We shall see.

    • Sperium3000

      Well, depending on how old your girls are, they’ll probably look past most of the gripes an old curmugeon like myself would have. I had some trouble going back to the original games myself, but I put my 5 year old niece in front of it and she had a blast.

      • anomalous material

        8 and 10. They got a kick out of the Toybox and that is essentially barren.

        I really wonder how much the game truly is aimed at the adults now, who loved these kinds of games when they were kids, and how much it is actually aimed at a new generation of kids.

        • Sperium3000

          I have an impression they were aiming for a “family fun” kind of thing, just as they did with the Banjo games.

  • Daryle Henry

    If I were a game designer and saw a review like this I would never send him a game to review. It’s one thing to not like a game, it’s another to be a total dickhead about it.

    • Sned

      I’m sure that Jim is really sad at the fact that he’ll never have to play another one of their game’s to review…

    • James Fitzgerald

      Considering he backed this game on kickstarter and didnt recieve a review copy what would it matter? Nothing. I like his reviews because he is Jim fucking sterling son and you can be sure he will tell it like it is.

      • amb

        I’m confused… He didn’t receive a review copy? It says “Copy provided by publisher” at the top of the page.

        • Via Kickstarter. He’s publicly stated a number of times that he backed them.

          • amb

            Yes, I know that he backed the kickstarter. But as the retail release date isn’t until April 11, did the kickstarter backers receive the game earlier? Clearly he must have had some early access to it.

          • If you’re asking (and I don’t know the answer because I didn’t back it), then there’s nothing “clear” about it.

          • amb

            If you don’t know the answer, then why did you say “via kickstarter”?

          • I also said, “Because he publicly stated a number of times that he backed them.” That’s where he got his copy from.

          • amb

            Well, from what I’ve seen looking around online, it doesn’t seem like backers are receiving the game until April 11th(It’s possible they may have emailed backers something privately, but I don’t think thats likely).

            Today is April 4, and as it turns out, April 11 is a week away! So I think it’s safe to say that Jim’s writeup is from a review copy, unless he used a time machine to jump to April 11, play the retail version, and then time travel back so his writeup conveniently lines up with all of the other reviews being released today.

          • I mean, it’s Jim fucking Sterling son. It’s not beyond his power.

          • amb

            Thank god for him.

        • James Fitzgerald

          And so your cofusion will continue.

          • amb

            And yet you haven’t answered my question. He says “Copy provided by publisher“, then below that, separately,” Reviewer contributed to kickstarter“. Where does it state that the “Copy provided by publisher” is not a review copy?
            The release date is April 11, so have ALL backers received the game early then? He must have had some kind of early access to the game.

      • Rioplats

        There do seem to be some rather strange quips in here which aren’t “telling it like it is”, mind. Stuff like commenting that Yooka sounds like a “total fucking pervert”, or misremembering Quillies, or that Laylee is a racist. (Although I suppose the last is pretty damn accurate given what we’ve seen)

        Maybe just out of frustration with how much he disliked the game, but eh, it is a bit weird.

        • InfamousDS

          When having a bad time, average becomes notable for just how average it is, to the point of becoming a negative.

        • James Fitzgerald

          I havent played the game so I dont know. Your honestly taking a fucking review to seriously and my comment. I thought the “he is Jim fucing Sterling son” would have been a clue.

          • Rioplats

            I’ve been advocating that people take the review less seriously actually lol. Doesn’t mean I won’t speak my mind about topics I find interesting 😛

          • James Fitzgerald

            Me either

    • Scott Lodge

      Exactly Daryle. I’m sure it’s not a 2/10. I love Rare games. Warts and all. I’m still buying it. Fuck Jims opinion.

      • Anton

        …feel better, champ?

        • Scott Lodge

          Pardon, chump?

          • Sperium3000

            Yeah, just insult a guy for literally nothing, that’s cool.

      • Sperium3000

        He’s not trying to get you not to buy the game, man! If you like it, that’s your prerogative, you have that right as a consumer! Why are you seeing this review as a direct attack on you? Is your life that miserable and bereft of meaning? Go on! Go play the game, have a blast, write your own review saying how much you think the game is great! Just go and live!

        • Scott Lodge

          Why don’t you take your own advice and go and live. Instead of going through all of the comments and starting arguments with anyone that disagrees with Jim.

          • Sperium3000

            YOU’RE LITERALLY DOING THAT RIGHT NOW (Except for the “disagrees with Jim” part)

          • Scott Lodge

            SO ARE YOU!!!

          • NOW KISS!!

          • Sperium3000

            Then we can get to POUNDING IT!

          • Holy shit, man. At least give him some foreplay.

          • Sperium3000

            Naw, man, that ain’t how we do in Tijuana.

    • CyanManta

      They had to give him his copy; he backed and funded the fucking thing.

      • Daryle Henry

        Did other backers get their games yet?

    • Sperium3000

      HRNNNNNNNGH…. Ok.

      He’s not required to give it a good review because they sent him a free copy of the game. Even if he did kickstarted it. If that were the case, the whole fucking review system would be a god damn farce.

      • Daryle Henry

        I didn’t say he was required to give it a good review. I said he didn’t have to be a dick about it. There is a difference between being honest and being an asshole.

    • Matrim

      …and then he’ll just buy the game, deduct it as a business expense, and review it anyway. *shrugs*

  • Char Aznable

    I was pretty interested in the game when it was first announced until I thought about what it would mean to play a 90s era 3D platformer and came to my senses. I loved Banjo-Kazooie in 1998. It is unplayable to me now.

  • PoopShark

    So if I want a game that has the same design principles as 90’s era rareware games I should love it? I play through BK 1 and 2 at least once every year or two, so if it’s like those games flaws and all, I’m pretty excited. Just because there have been improvements in game design over the past two decades doesn’t mean they’re necessary for a game to be good in my opinion. It’s completely subjective, but if that were true for everyone then I’d only enjoy rareware titles because of nostalgia. While that plays a part, the reason I keep going back is because I enjoy the mechanics, even if they were the results of hardware limitations.

    Shame you didn’t like it Jim, but I can understand why you feel the way you do. I love you anyways.

    • BrunoXX

      I don’t think it’s because you like the mechanics, it’s 90% nostalgia….belive me. I often play emulated C64 games and i like them, but when i put down my nostalgia glasses I must say, that 90% of the games have terrible mechanics/gameplay/conversion and the only reason i play them is for nostalgia. On the N64 & PS1 it’s even harder: 98% of the games i own for this consoles are unplayable nowadays in my eyes, mostly because of horrible gamedesign decicions.

  • Rioplats

    Is Fur Fun better than this then? 😉

  • Shocker Rider GG

    2/10 holy shit that was brutal seems like another kickstarter dissapointment

  • Sned

    By the way, why on earth did you play the game on Xbox? Don’t you know it’s a bit toss?

  • Codename Codeman

    Lots of people are going on about how I’m supposed to love this game if I loved Banjo-Kazooie and Mario 64, at least according to this review. Mah mates, I think you’re rationalizing. I would be very surprised if this game turned out to be as good as any of those. I played all three of em recently and I was able to 100% complete them… for a reason; they’re good. Really good. They control wonderfully and they’re fun and well-designed. Ive encountered many control and camera problems in modern games that dont exist in the likes of Mario 64. Like for example all these fucking games that can never get inertia right and just make controlling characters feel clunky as fuck – gta. Im not saying games cant age but generally if a game is shit…. its shit. If it’s good, it’s good. Sorry folks.

    • Joccaren

      Eeeeeh, I’d disagree with the final sentence. Games can be good for a time, or shit from only one perspective.

      Also have to agree on great cameras and controls for the likes of Banjo Kazooie back on the N64 – and I just replayed them myself. There are a lot of camera issues, and some clunky controls necessitated by the single joystick. Not unbearable or unplayable, but they definitely have their issues.

      From what I’ve read, this game is basically the same; some odd camera control issues and control clunkiness that if you think the previous games didn’t have, you probably won’t notice at all. Of course, they did have that clunkiness and poor camera control, and you’ll probably notice it here as well.

      Platforming I’ve heard both being slightly off [Jim], and perfectly tuned [A few other reviews], though it seems the controls for the alternate vehicle forms unlocked in each stage are… less than great at times.

      While I’m sure its probably not quite as good as games like Banjo Twoie, it seems to be rather competently executed and would not be out of place to have been released alongside them, and would probably rate similarly. The issues of N64 camera control arise again, however, and their new any-order approach to clearing the game has resulted in some not perfect, though not terrible if you agree that the N64 games weren’t bad, level design.

      General consensus seems to be at around a 6-7, which sounds about right for an N64 game lacking a small amount of polish and without any improvements to camera control and such. It seems Jim just came down overly harsh on it due to not really liking the genre compared to modern genres.

      • Caven

        But if he didn’t like the genre, why would he back the Kickstarter?

        • Joccaren

          From what his review has said, because he seemed to want it to be a modern 3D platformer, a complete re-imagining of the old games with new systems and mechanics, rather than sticking to what made them stand out, and why people love them.

          Like backing a Call of Duty clone expecting it to become ARMA.

          For example he criticises it not having in depth combat mechanics – which it never should have because that’s not the genre – for being platforming and collecting focused in the same way those old games were – which, well, come on – and for the stylistic choices such as the dialogue and ‘voices’ which also mirror the old games. He criticises the level design for not outright telling you how to solve a puzzle, and various other bits and pieces.
          And his opening line is that this game is a near perfect copy of old 90s platformers – and calls that a bad thing, despite that being EXACTLY what it was supposed to be.

          So I simply have to conclude that from the start he didn’t like what it was advertised as being, and was hoping it would be a modernisation attempt – because those always turn out so well. It isn’t a modernisation, and thus he doesn’t like it.

          • BrunoXX

            I don’t think people like the old games because they had bad camera control, bad framerate or bad level design…..they liked them, because they had nothing to compare and nothing better.

            And no, it’s not “EXACTLY what it was supposed to be”. The devs always told that they will take an modern approach….

          • Joccaren

            Bad camera; any other game he’d probably dock 2 points max. Bad camera in a Dynasty warriors game? Guaranteed 7 or 8.
            Bad framerate; He’s playing a console. All games have a bad framerate. Docking points here seems… Silly. And look at BOTW with its bad framerate, barely noticed the docking of points there, still a 7/10 with other issues that he found glaringly obvious.
            Bad level design; I haven’t played it to tell, but his example was that the game didn’t tell him how to solve a puzzle, and he had to figure it out himself. That isn’t bad level design. That’s puzzle/exploration based gameplay, rather than it just being a distraction from all the combat.

            He also docked points for ‘simplistic combat’ – exactly what it should be – for having lots of things to collect – its a collectathon, I wonder why that would be – for stylistic choices such as the voices being their classic Banjo Kazooie style rather than Zelda styled shitty voice acting – which again, exactly what it should be – and so on, and so forth.

            I also seriously love the “They liked them because they had nothing to compare, and nothing better” line. That’s just a straight up farce. I have Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Twoie, Mario 64, and DK 64 [The worst of the bunch], all in my room ready to play. And I do go back and replay them occasionally. I certainly prefer all of them to Skyrim, or Call of Duty, or Battlefield, or the Dynasty Warriors games, or… I could go on, but you get the picture. Honestly, reviewing each title, from what I’ve seen, I could actually dock far more points from the modern alternatives for bad design than I could YL. Especially Skyrim. That thing is a fucking mess design wise, but maybe that’s cheating.
            People enjoyed them for their colourful characters, great music, exploration and platforming based puzzles, varied gameplay, the simple joy of collecting things, and exploring large numbers of unique worlds. All of this has returned in Yooka Laylee, exactly as it was.
            What improvements could be offered? Yeah, some better camera controls certainly. Apparently the collectible hit for the last boss is also a bit stupidly high compared to the rest of the game, so lower it 20% and you’d probably be alright. Not having played it, I could maybe nitpick a few other bits and bobs, but the core design, approach and idea is actually a strong one that many people liked.
            I mean, this is the era that also had Goldeneye, Ocarina of Time, Majora’s Mask, Lylat Wars and a bunch of other critically acclaimed titles on the N64 alone, the alone the original Playstation. There were a ton of alternatives to collectathons, yet people still played them. If its because there was nothing better, that makes collectathons goddamn amazing.

            Put simply, he dislikes it for being a 90s platformer, which is exactly what it said it would be.
            Playtonic also didn’t say they’d take the modern approach, they said they’d try a new approach to some things, and explained exactly what they were trying this approach with; freeform level order, and expanding levels. Guess two things Jim didn’t complain about. Its now a less linear game, and that’s what the ‘modernisation’ update was. It is delivered, exactly as promised.

            From others who have rewatched some previous videos, apparently he also backed YL mostly to take a pot shot at Microsoft, who sit on Rare IPs and either ruin them or don’t do anything with them.

            I get maybe you don’t like the genre, but lets not pretend that its objectively bad. That’s just asinine.

    • BrunoXX

      Sorry, but the camera in Mario 64 is one of it’s greatest issues.

  • HZ

    To be honest, Jim’s complaints sound a lot more like something I would say about dark souls, so it’s a mystery why he dislikes this game but likes dark souls.

    I admit it looks a bit too open and empty, I’d have to try it for myself.

    • James Fitzgerald

      Dark souls is difficult because its supposed to be there is a difference between being made hard and just hard because of shit design and poor effort.

      • Rioplats

        Probably not about difficulty, but about the individual complaints brought up. To a layman, DS controls may feel clunky, the camera might not feel responsive, the requirement to master certain techniques may feel restrictive.
        I dunno. Not complaints I have with the game, even though I personally dislike Dark Souls for different reasons.

      • HZ

        Dark souls would be a lot easier if the camera wasn’t ass. Most of my battling in dark souls is against that lmao.

    • halfbeast

      that’s an interesting comparison. could you elaborate?

      (seriously curious, not being a prick here)

    • BrunoXX

      Different genres, hard to compare. In plattformers the most important thing is a good play control, a good camera control & a good framerate….and that’s were Yooka-Laylee fails. In Dark Souls other aspects are more important (but it also had a terrible framerate that makes it unplayable to me).

  • D.j. Luongo

    This is why I don’t trust games on kickstarter most of the time. But still this is pretty damn disappointing :/ I was actually considering buying it on release date

    • Rafael Bueno

      Ive only seen 3 successful kickstarter games that are good like shovel knight, Undertale and shantae half genie hero. Agreed?

      • Slap My Chips Up

        Pillars of Eternity is pretty solid.

        • Phaerie

          Divinity: Original Sin and Dreamfall: chapters are two more that actually delivered.

      • D.j. Luongo

        Oh wow I keep forgetting about Shovel Knight! I never played the other two but at least with Shovel Knight, yes I totally agree.

      • Sperium3000

        I’m playing Hollow Knight right now, which is also Kickstarted, and so far it’s a game of the year contender for me. It’s a tragedy not more people are talking about it.

  • Scott Lodge

    2/10? C’mon don’t be a prick

    • Sperium3000

      He’s not “being a prick”, he’s doing his job. The job description of a critic is not “give good scores to a game no matter how bad or good they are to validate the opinions of random people”. It’s to “give a fair opinion of their experience with a certain piece of content to assist their audience in forming their own opinions and make well thought, well informed purchase.”

      • Kyle

        A 2 would insinuate that the game is not complete and is like Big Rigs or Barbie. It’s far too low, and if he got paid for this review what a sad world this has become.

        • Bosch

          “A 2 represents a straight-up bad game. A thorough disaster, there is no hope of a positive experience ever shining through all the broken features and atrocious ideas. Only the truly desperate will be able to dig through the mire and find something passable.”
          I don’t see any mention whatsoever about “not complete” on here.

        • Jeroen van den Crommenacker

          [quotation needed]

        • Sperium3000

          Not necessarily, you’re just imposing your own definition upon the opinions of someone else. There is no law that determines what each score mean. A 2 on The Jimquisition isn’t necessarily the same as a 2 on IGN or Polygon or whatever.

          • ukyosake

            I’m not disagreeing with Jims score, but I wanted to point out that jim has defined what a score means and should act as at least a guideline and at most the law of what his score is. L&R

        • Piratepoots

          He’s scoring a damn game based on how much he liked it, not based on some system.

        • BrunoXX

          That’s wrong, a 2 only says that the game is bad…..

      • Scott Lodge

        2/10 is not a “fair opinion”. It’s bullshit. Nobody should take this guy seriously after his Breath of the Wild review anyway.

        • Hey, look kids! We found another “I didn’t like Jim’s opinion of the Zelda game!”

          • Scott Lodge

            Well duh

          • If you don’t take his opinion seriously anymore, then why are you here?

          • Scott Lodge

            I followed a link from another site. Not that I have to explain myself to you.

          • But you’re clearly taking his opinion seriously be calling him a prick. Why get all offended and insulting?

          • Sperium3000

            Because people don’t like when someone does not validade their opinion about something. They see this and can’t leave it at “this person thinks differently from me”. They see this and their mind takes a leap from “This person is wrong” to “This person has an ulterior motive to be saying this *clearly* wrong thing”.

          • Scott Lodge

            There’s nothing wrong with the everyday gamer having a different opinion. But he is supposed to be a professional critic (not that he acts like it). He’s supposed to be objective. He can influence whether a game sells or not.

          • Yay! A “reviews are objective!” comment. That fills my bingo card!

          • Sperium3000

            Ok… I can’t believe we’re going back to this, but ok. Please illuminate me: What is “objective” in this scenario?

        • Crispman

          Lol. He gave BoTW a 7/10. A 7. That’s a good score!

          • Altoryu

            A lot of people don’t believe that though. For one, Zelda games are apparently supposed to be perfect masterpieces according to them getting 9’s and 10’s. Two, people have been brainwashed getting into this ‘7 is average’ mentality when really a 5 should be average since its right in the middle.

          • “7 (Good): A 7 represents a favorable slice of entertainment that ought to prove welcome in the right house. Not the most glamorous, polished, or jawdropping, but most definitely good for a chuckle or two.”

          • Altoryu

            Pretty much 7 should be considered above average but some reviewers see a 7 as the new average.

          • Scott Lodge

            Well seeing as almost everyone gave it a perfect score, I’d say he’s out voted.

          • Altoryu

            I didn’t realise that reviewing was the same as voting, just cause one person gave an outlying review score doesn’t mean he’s been ‘outvoted’.

            It just means he didn’t enjoy the game as much.

          • Sperium3000

            What are you talking about? Reviews are not a competition! That’s not how this shit works!

        • Derpy Kitty

          7/10 seems pretty generous to me, honestly.

        • Camille (YuudiHoshi/GalekC)

          I personally love BotW, but even I would still probably give it a 7 as well

        • BrunoXX

          In my opinion (i have 40 years of gaming expirience, starting with pong) a 7 is even a to high score for Breath of the Wild….but that is only my opinion, like the 2 on this game is only Jim’s opinion.

    • Scott Lodge

      You can tell who Jims groupies are.

      • Having sex with Jim is on my bucket list.

        Can you imagine that? Jim kneeling behind me and just pounding it? Eh? Can you see that? His glistening, sweaty balls smacking against my ass cheeks as he’s just POUNDING IT into me? Huh? POUNDING IT? POUNDING! POUNDING IT!!

        • Sperium3000

          *Assorted Moist Slapping Noises*

        • Scott Lodge

          Pmfsl 😂

  • Joccaren

    While some of the complaints I can understand, such as the camera controls, and the padding through inordinate collectible cost [Rather than improved camera controls, and collectibles making the final areas easier, akin to BotW, rather than locking them off entirely], others just boggle my mind.

    Combat SHOULD be simple and easy. If it were complicated and a large focus of the game, it would detract and distract from the main focus of the game; exploration. You systems in games where they make sense, and if the enemies didn’t basically all die to one hit, that’d be a problem – not the inverse. The combat, by and large, exists as variety and change of pace from platforming. Without having played the game perhaps enemy variety is small, with no equivalent to flying enemies, turreted enemies, and tank enemies, but it feels more like Jim wanted a combat focused game, rather than, well, what was asked for from the kickstarter.

    The almost cringy dialogue is also something that definitely should have been kept. It marries to the feel of those games, with their cartoon levels of silliness.
    Voices just being grunts and such – good. The worst thing to happen to the new Zelda was voice acting. It was unnecessary, stupid, actually bad, and didn’t improve the game in any way – and wouldn’t have if it were good either.
    These both combine with the cartoony aesthetic into a cohesive look and sound that matches the genre of the game. This is the sort of stuff you complain about Greenlight indie devs not doing. I can understand not being a fan of the aesthetic, but the aesthetic itself is not bad, and if it is cohesive rather than at odds with itself that’s a plus.

    The idea of simply being told everything about when and how to use your abilities would also be bad. The idea of an exploration game is experimentation, and I’m sure they probably could have done a better job in designing levels to guide you to a solution – considering this is the genre’s first foray into proper open world go-any-order, I think that can be a little forgiven, however lines like “although the game doesn’t always tell you what moves are needed and when” imply a want for excessive handholding that has honestly become the problem with modern games, rather than a good solution to be enacted.

    This review literally says its Banjo Kazooie remade, and honestly that’s all most people asked for from the Kickstarter. This has actually given me hope for the game, as it won’t be another ‘reboot’ where the entire genre changes to match popular modern fads, while forgetting what made the genre enjoyable to begin with. This review seems to want it to make that exact mistake; become Skyrim but with a lizard and bat. That would be a terrible end result.

    I respect your opinion, though I’m starting to feel that you have a very specific type of game you like, and come down extremely heavily on anything that doesn’t match the action-adventure third person genre, as defined by modern Western games. While you have every right to review them as you see fit… It seems I’m going to have to start bypassing your reviews on other genres of games, as it almost feels as if you want homogenised, focus group tested games, rather than games with a variety of focuses and different appeals.

    I’m certain the game has problems, and isn’t absolute perfection, or anything close to it – but I’ve found other reviews to more accurately point out those problems, while this feels more like attacking the game for not being something it never suggested it would be – at least based on the criticisms in the review. That comes across as unfair, and irrelevant.

    I find it a shame you didn’t enjoy it, and I’ll re-iterate that you’re welcome to your opinion, I guess I just feel like I’m sure you would when a Dynasty Warriors game gets a 2 for not being Total War or Dragon Age – the reviewer misses the point, and comes down overly harsh on criticisms that are valid on some level because of it. You’re, as always, welcome to and entirely valid in your opinions, I’m just a little disappointed, and respectfully disagree.

    • E1ite Yoshi

      Well said.

      • Oliver Cook

        Jim may say whatever he wants about Yooka Laylee, it won’t change one fact: That I’ll get the game at some point and see for myself whether it’s worth it or not. Besides, I think I’ll wait until it’s updated with stuff like improved camera and the like.

        • Bosch

          Really? You can do that? Some of the commentators here seem to think that his dislike of the game has led to it being banned or something. Man, I wonder what’ll happen if they find out this is an option.

          • Oliver Cook

            Who knows? They’ll probably grow a few more braincells and stop taking reviews as instant fact, ESPECIALLY when the reviewed game in question isn’t out yet.

          • Steam Condenser

            Whether the game is released or not rarely changes the case the review makes. Games hardly change between the early review copies and the final release, mainly because those dates normally occur within weeks of each other.

          • Bosch

            Weird. I posted this in reply to something, but now it seems like it’s showing as a standalone comment for some reason.

          • Scott Guertin

            Disqus’s comment handling is at times a bit wacky in how it renders comments, but at least they keep the helpful “in reply to” info right next to your name so we can follow it back.

            I agree with your comment, the outrage at a negative review is just hysterical to me.

        • Dariusz G. Jagielski

          Actually AFAIK there will be Day 1 patch regarding the camera and perf.

          • Oliver Cook

            Ah! It’s good, in a way. But If I get an opportunity to buy the game… It’ll be during a sale.

      • Does anyone know why this comment is under “moderation”, whatever that means?

        • MechaSlinky

          Maybe because it’s massive?

          • Erik Jochums

            That’s my guess. Very verbose, A good read, but verbose.

          • Gaealiege

            Reading apparently offends some people. If you force their brains to work, they become irate!

          • MechaSlinky

            I used to work in online customer service. I know this truth all too well…

        • E1ite Yoshi

          I don’t know.

          • Kevin

            That is what I am wondering…

        • MrSaxon

          i’m guessing enough people who didn’t agree with it flagged it as inappropriate.

        • svnhddbst

          i would assume “anything too long requires moderation before public display”, but i assume a lot of things that turn out to be wrong.

  • Nel_Annette

    Hooooly shit. Reviews like this were not what I expected at all. XD

    • CyanManta

      Jim probably wasn’t expecting to give such a review. He backed this game on Kickstarter and there was every indication building up to it that it was going to be good.

      • Jiryn

        He even spoke highly of the demos/play tests he did…

        • Artemiy

          Yeah. Jim sounds like a person who was promised a super-good cake and given a bunch of waffles dunked in fondant.

          • InfamousDS

            Which, if you love waffles and are okay with fondant will still be a nice dessert. But if your heart was really set on cake… well the baker done fucked up.

      • Nel_Annette

        That’s why it’s so surprising to me. Every preview we saw of the game was saying “winner” and I think we’re all pretty surprised at how “meh” the game’s turning out to be.

        • BrunoXX

          That is because they only showed the good parts in the previews and said to fix the complaints…..

    • Kyle Pierce

      Seems like Jim’s just gone full SJW with this review. He called the bat racist quite a bit, said he hates penises, & that the lizard is a sexist pervert.

      • Otherhand

        FFS it’s clearly a joke. When he explains what that means, he’s referring to the bat’s apparently tiresome line in humour that’s based on pointing out that non-bat animals are disgustingly un-bat-like. That became torturously unfunny to this reviewer, and is therefore a valid opinion to put in the review. The phrase “racist bat friend” is there to raise a smile.

        • Kyle Pierce

          I wrote that comment satirically, but I am pretty sick of seeing the word “racist” come up all the time. It’s basically an everyday theme now.

      • BrunoXX

        He mentioned in his review that the still pictures look better than the game in motion…..

  • Overblown Ego

    Solid review! I think I may still give it a try because my tastes seem to diverge a bit from yours where 3D platformers are concerned. For example I know you didn’t hate it or anything but you’ve said a few times Mario 64 didn’t click with you and for me that game is a timeless joy. The technical issues you mention worry me though, so I’ll likely hold off until it gets patched into a better state. Maybe on a sale, because that stuff about the lacking level design also concerns me quite a bit.

  • Anonymous

    Kid Icarus Uprising, Vanquish, MK7, Breath of the Wild, and now Yooka-Laylee….

    Gotta say. I LOVE Jim Sterling. His presence as an industry analyst and pundit is, imo, unmatched. Jimquisitions are a must watch every week. But his reviews? Just not a fan. Jim has a bad habit of letting minor inconveniences turn into major complaints, clouding his view of the meat of the game. He’s a very surface value reviewer. I’ll always respect Jim as an industry critic, but as a games reviewer, I think it’s clear by now that his views just don’t align with mine. Which is fine, but I’ll always wish they did.

    • Dariush

      i red and listen to a multitude of reviews and red Jim’s reviews entirely.
      He underline the SAME problems every other reviewers do. Then there’s the final score. I think Jim makes a nice work every time cause he actually USES all of the 10 numbers available. He used 10 and 3 or 2 with the same ease he would use a 7 or 8. And thats a pro for me. Numbers are not sacred concepts, they are there to be used. And if we have a 0 to 10 scale, then let’s use all the gamma of numbers available to describe how really good/bad a game is.
      yookaLaylee seems to be a bit of a mess on most level and a 2 describes it much better than a 5 especially if we add the fun factor that might not be there if youre not inebriated with nostalgia.

      • Jarin

        It’s a nice break from “Oh god, this game is terrible. Borderline unplayable” – “So, like… a 7?”

        • Dariush

          yep i think the same. The game is unplayable? give it a low score whats the point of trying yo hold onto any other quality it might have if its not even fun!?

    • E1ite Yoshi

      As much as I respect Sterling, he does have a tendency of doing this. This is kinda why I like to follow his YouTube channel as opposed to his reviews. But in the very end you can admit that he’s being honest.

  • halfbeast

    “Those desperate for a mascot platformer in Rare’s old style might be able to love this”

    hi! 😀

  • Kyle

    This review looks like it was formatted by a second grader. How do you give a game a two these days? You will not find out by reading this… it’s basically a stab and that’s about it.

    • CyanManta

      U mad bro?

      • Kyle

        I am mad that just because this guy loves Jon Tron he’s going to metacritic sabotage a game. NOT EVEN FUCKING SLANT GAVE IT A 2!

        Does the guy that wrote this even know how a scoring system works? You reserve a 2 scoring for the people that do not try at all… and this is clearly not the case and this is why you should have to go to school to do this.

        • Bosch

          “You reserve a 2 scoring for the people that do not try at all”
          Really? Where in his scoring guide does it say that?

          Not even going to touch the JonTron conspiracy theory. Even putting aside his recent writing about what a jerk he thinks JT’s been lately, as they say, “That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.”

          • Kyle

            I want proof he completed the game. I don’t think he did and he doesn’t talk about the mechanics enough or is even a good enough writer to be included in the metacritic meta. His score is a testament to how illegitimate metacritic has become. Apparently anyone can do it now… even “publications” that are not relevant.

            He shouldn’t get to freely sabotage the game. Lots of people have blogs like this that can write better than this shit stain with a two year old’s preference.

            Though I gotta give him props… there are actually idiots more pointless than him to back this horrendous shit stained review.

          • Bosch

            So, what opinions ARE people who played this game allowed to have about it?

          • Kyle

            These are not opinions, these are preferences and there isn’t enough depth to this review to be on the Meta consensus. ALSO I don’t think he’s actually completed the game otherwise he would have mentioned more.

            And he’s fat. Fat people have a tendency of just saying stuff like “the grass is blue.” That’s it the grass is blue. They don’t bother to go further just like this guy doesn’t bother to work out or look good.

          • 09philj

            Ah.
            You’re completely insane.
            That explains everything.

          • Would you and Metacritic just fuck already? You have such a hard on for them, I’m starting to think it’s unhealthy.

          • Muddy Scarecrow

            Opinions =/= Preferences.

            I don’t…I don’t even know what the fuck.

          • Bosch

            … wow. In the same post, someone accuses someone of saying “the grass is blue” (based on their WEIGHT of all things, not any actual thing the person has said or done) while squirming out of answering a simple question by saying “this person’s opinion isn’t an opinion, but a different term that is just shy of a synonym for it”.
            Just… just think about that. For one second, think about it.

          • Bosch

            Still waiting for your list of permissible opinions about the game.

        • Brotosly36

          I highly doubt he gave this game a 2 because he “loves Jon Tron”. 1 Thats super unproffesional and petty, and although Jim can be petty that would be a new low.
          2. I’m actually pretty sure Jim would agree with most of the criticism against Jon and definitely wouldn’t bomb a game he was hoping would succeed just because the game dropped Jon.

        • Crispman

          Did you not read his bit on JonTron?

        • Yamori

          I think you reserve a 2 for games that feel like a 2.

        • Matrim

          “2 (Bad): A 2 represents a straight-up bad game. A thorough disaster, there is no hope of a positive experience ever shining through all the broken features and atrocious ideas. Only the truly desperate will be able to dig through the mire and find something passable.”

          Sounds pretty much like he described. That’s his system, mate.

        • CyanManta

          He “loves” JonTron?? Did you not read Jim’s article about the JonTron incident? If Jim loves JonTron, he’s got a funny way of showing it.

        • Matrim

          Maybe if you’d actually read his scoring criteria, which are easily accessible on this site, you’d know why Jim scores the way he does.

  • Kyle Pierce

    Jim, so you’re saying this game is only slightly better than Life of Black Tiger?

    • Crispman

      Best game ever

      • Sperium3000

        I’m glad he’s not a black one like me.

  • Blazeofspikes

    I am not sure why I am bothering reading a review that claims Yookaa-laylee has all these “terrible camera, controls, etc” when the written review can never express any of those examples other then “I say the game has these terrible things”.

    • Bosch

      Out of curiosity, how would you suggest a written review convey the concept of “terrible cameras” for instance?

      • Sonydrone

        Objects between camera and character, camera locked on the wrong view, Camera not responding, too close, to far, etc.

        • Bosch

          Fair enough. That would provide some additional detail.

      • Rioplats

        Isn’t that the point? You can’t. The solution to that would be to have a video review.

      • Harry Welchman

        I know someone already answered but lets say you needed to jump across a few platforms with perilous drops between them. The game clearly wants you to do that in order to collect something. The current camera angle is incredibly dangerous as it is facing against the direction you’re heading. You try to adjust the camera… “Nope” says the game and insists that the only acceptable angle is the one you are stuck with.

        So, inhibited by the unresponsive camera you jump… Suddenly the camera decides to get up and swing around while you’re in mid-leap throwing you off your course. You plummet to your doom. I’ve played several (older, to be fair) 3D platformers that have done this in a few places and it really brings down the game as you can probably tell. Unfortunately, it looks like Jim doesn’t put enough effort in his reviews to really elaborate on stuff like this.

    • BrunoXX

      But you would accept a “it’s a very good camera”-opinion without hesitation?

      • Blazeofspikes

        The point of my initial comment has everything to do with the problems of written reviews.

        GameXplain’s video review serves more justice for the xbone version of yooka laylee “bogged down camera/controls/fps issues” then Jim’s written words of saying the game has “terrible camera/controls/fps issues”.

  • Jeroen van den Crommenacker

    “(he’s named after a penis)”
    You make it sound like that’s a bad thing

    • Crispman

      POUNDING IT!!!

    • Bosch

      I dunno. It is kind of out of place in the style of game this is paying homage to, I think. Not that there’s anything wrong with penises.

      • Jeroen van den Crommenacker

        Mate, Rare games are full of dick jokes

        • Bosch

          Well, putting aside Conker’s Bad Fur Day, they’re generally a good bit more subtle than having an outright “trouser snake”.

          • Rioplats

            Why is that “outright” though? Is this a common colloquialism in some places? Because many reviewers, commenters and other observers had no idea it was slang until they googled it. I’d certainly not heard of it before this in any case.

          • Bosch

            Fair enough that. Maybe it’s an American thing? As far as I know in this particular region it’s an EXTREMELY widely understood bit of slang. But it’s very possible I’m being biased.

          • Sperium3000

            Dude, look it up, Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie are full of sexual jokes. Whether you think they’re out of place in a game like that, I’m not disputing that, just pointing out that, no, stuff like that was always there.

            Like, there’s a platform in Banjo Kazooie that is lterally shaped like a cock and balls pissing.

          • Bosch

            Goodness. Well, all right, color me corrected, then.

          • Sperium3000

            To be fair to you, that’s the kind of stuff I myself learned 15-20 years after having played those games as a kid. That kind of humor really just flies over a child’s head anyway.

          • Jeroen van den Crommenacker

            There’s a whole page on TVTropes about shit that the Banjo games got past the radar

  • CyanManta

    Unfortunate and unexpected. However, I get the impression I might still want to buy this game if A) they fix the bugs and B) it goes on sale. I certainly am not buying it on release day for full price.

  • Mike Johnson

    2/10?

    Dude is a click bait reviewer and has almost no legitimacy in reviews anymore.

    Dynasty Warriors though… totally a 9/10 right Jim?

    • Dariush

      man who cares…its another opinion…you know how many friends that liked Nioh more than zelda i have? al least 3 i can remember. And i dont have a lot of friends. How many people despite DarkSouls in spite’s of its fame and “classic” status?
      alot.
      People like Jim do exists, and even if his purpose is to draw attention on himself, the text of his review does a good job describing the game’s flaws.

    • John Smith

      If he didnt like it then he didnt. Everything he hates i mostly like.

    • Bosch

      So. What opinions ARE people allowed to have about this game, then?

      • Mike Johnson

        Apparently i can’t have my own fucking opinion?

        • Artemiy

          You can, just don’t go running around accusing people of being “click bait”.

          • Mike Johnson

            He is clickbait

          • Artemiy

            See, and that’s why people here are reluctant to have meaningful dialogue with you.

        • Bosch

          I asked you a simple question. You don’t appear to have an answer for it.

          • Mike Johnson

            I answer to you, why? If you can’t figure out what I am saying then thats your own damn fault.

          • Muddy Scarecrow

            Oh my “favorite” response. “If you can’t figure out my reasons for saying this baseless thing because you don’t have the forethought to be psychic then I shouldn’t have to explain anything to you.”

          • I’m gonna fill up another bingo card at this rate.

          • Bosch

            You did? Odd. I asked what opinions people are allowed to have about the game. You answered by stating that you can’t have your own opinion (and made that a question, for some reason). Where in this does it say what opinions a reviewer is allowed to have?

          • Bosch

            Still waiting. Where is your answer? The question is “What opinions ARE people allowed to have about this game, then?” You have not listed one single opinion people are allowed to have. Therefore you have not answered the question.

          • Mike Johnson

            What do you think of the current climate of pollution in society?

          • Bosch

            Still waiting. I’ll address your question in the meantime: The phrase “climate of pollution in society” is ambiguous. You’ll need to define that before I can provide a meaningful response. Now, back to my question.

        • CyanManta

          Yes, you can have your own opinion, and others can respond to your opinion. You know, like you just did with Jim’s review, you goddamned hypocrite. How dare you invoke freedom of speech as a defense against simple criticism, when you just lashed out at a critic for disagreeing with you? Do you live in some sort of magical fantasy world where you’re the only person who has rights?

      • Sonydrone

        He only gave one about the review and you are here conplaining about it, ironic.

  • Uncle Satirical

    Lol, Jim has become yet another shitty click bait reviewer, sorry to say. This c*nt should go away and take his horrible opinions with him.

    • Matrim

      Yes…click bait…on a site with no ads, and thus no reason to encourage clicks…

      • Riosine

        Eh?, That is a false implication:
        A clickbait is still a clickbait even if its run by a Non profit organization.

        • Jarin

          So, let me make sure I understand you, clickbait is… “any opinion I disagree with because they’re obviously lying for attention”? right?

          • Riosine

            a clickbait is actually misleading title or trap… anything that changes to something completely different in the middle of a video/article

            (Nor that im implying this is precisely a clickbait either)
            Just pointing at faux logic

          • Jarin

            Gotcha. Lacking details, it looked like you were agreeing with the people calling this clickbait.

      • Sonydrone

        I will help you since i can’t see much intelligence on you

        More clicks on site with no ads > More people knowing who is Jim and his work > More people watching his videos > More people donating money on patreon.

        Don’t be afraid to use your brain, you will not get hurt.

        • Matrim

          In which case it’s not click bait. Click bait exists to, and follow me on this, click. Specifically to generate SEO. If a person reads Sterling’s stuff, likes it, decides to donate to his Patreon, that’s not click bait, mate. If that’s your definition of click bait, literally everything anyone posts online every qualifies. Fuck, this comment right here? Click bait.

          • Muddy Scarecrow

            Oh no I’ve been baited! Bastard! >=<
            s/

        • Bosch

          You skipped the part where, somehow, people pissed off over a supposedly provocative review decide to sign up as patrons for some reason. Can you explain that for us?

    • CyanManta

      There are NO ADS on the Jimquisition, you fucking dolt.

      • Mike Johnson

        the point is to get views for overall awareness and revenue (patron, etc)
        You dont need fucking ads for that so your “gotcha” bs doesnt work.

        • Bosch

          Hey, folks! Raise your hand if this review caused you to contribute any Patreon money!

          • Muddy Scarecrow

            Uh, does liking your comment count as raising my hand? …Fuck

        • EmperorSRB

          Yeah, because the people who came here to whine and complain are the very ones that are willing to pledge a monthly subscription to Jim.

        • Otherhand

          It does, because people accuse him of clickbait over upsetting the notoriously fragile mass fan bases. If he was doing this cynically for ad money, this might work. Since he has no ads, and would need to be doing this to get Patreon money, this does not work at all. He would be relying on people coming in to say, “LOL, good for you, keep kicking those [insert giant fanbase here] crybabies, have my money”. People don’t use their money that way, although there are certainly a ton of people who will bitterly vow that they’ll never donate a cent to him (a number that grows all the time).

          Hard as it may be to understand, financial backing is a positive-minded action which is outside of these anthill battles.

    • EmperorSRB

      So horrible opinions are those that don’t align with yours I guess ?
      So I have to ask, since when is your opinion the only right one ?
      Also, in which way, shape or form is this a clickbait ?

      • BrunoXX

        He is leftwinged, leftwings are always right….

  • Kyle

    I have a sense he didn’t even complete the game. I want proof that he has or I’m contacting Metacritic to have this sleeze bag “production” removed. What’s even funnier is this guy has a patreon as if he deserves money for a low budget blog.

    Give me one reason why you deserve a penny from any of the work you do.

    • CyanManta

      Give it a rest, fanboy. If you don’t like it, get your own website and post your own reviews.

      • Kyle

        I could make a blog right now that looks better than this… and I would give the people that ARE PAYING ME MONEY a more indepth and polished review… this production sucks and anyone that pays this guy has a small place in hell reserved for them.

        • Anton

          You should do it, then!

        • CyanManta

          And yet, here you are, still posting comments on Jim’s ostensibly inferior website.

        • Bosch

          The next part is where you make excuses for not doing so. Proceed.

        • EmperorSRB

          Then do it. What the fuck are you doing here wasting your time if you’re so certain you can manage a better job.
          I don’t see people paying him money complain about his reviews because they know what they’ve signed in for and what they are to expect.
          Don’t worry though, no matter how many times you came back to this review to complain and whine, you’ve not given even a single penny to Jim whatsoever. If that makes you feel any better.

          Also, one question. Since when is your opinion the only valid one ?

    • Jozef

      Metacritic don’t require the author of a review beats the game before they review it. So good luck with that.

      • Kyle

        That’s only one thing to cash in on. The fact that he’s irrelevant should work.

        • BrunoXX

          I know sites on metacritic that are much more irrelevant than Jim’s (and no, i’m no fan of him, in fact most of his reviews don’t mirror my own opinion)…..so give your best,

    • Muddy Scarecrow

      Oh no! You’ll remove him from Metacritic?! A site he really gives not a single Boglin loving shit about and even thinks is a bullshit thing to base one’s opinions on?! YOU TAKE THAT BACK! Suing him for making legitimate criticism which is not at all a thing you can sue for and fucking with his job for an entire year was one thing. But this is going way too far you maniac! Think about all the Pogs you’ll be orphaning! No please noooooooo *sobbing whilst masturbating*

      • Sonydrone

        90% of traffic of this month was because the Zelda low score review on Metacritic, you are delusional if you really believe that he “don’t care” about metacritic.

        • Muddy Scarecrow

          That’s an effect. A thing that happened. That doesn’t prove that he set out to do that. That’s like saying Elektra and Barb Wire were terrible movies because they had women in them. Oops, think I may trigger a few people with my cuckoldry =D

          • Sonydrone

            That’s an effect that we are seeing again in 2 weeks, can you see the pattern here?

          • Muddy Scarecrow

            He played two games he wasn’t a fan of. He gave them the score that he felt reflected that. The only pattern is that he didn’t enjoy the games. Well, Zelda he enjoyed just not enough for some people. Seriously a seven isn’t even a bad score.

          • Sonydrone

            So naive.

          • Muddy Scarecrow

            Dude, c’mon. If he really wanted to tank the Metacritic score why only give it a 7? Why not just go all the way down?

        • BrunoXX

          Breath of the Wild is an overhyped game, it’s nowhere near the scores it has on metacritic…..belive me: if this game where only released on Wii-U, it had became much lower scores. The high score mostly came from the fact that it is the only real AAA game on Switch…..

    • Andrew Barloq

      You have a sense? He fucking says in the review that he got as far in as he needed to, and the game got worse as he continued onward for the sake of actually coming to a review score for you to whine about.

      • Crispman

        *sarcasm*

      • Uncle Satirical

        The reviewer should finish the game unless it’s just a completely unplayable mess. Imagine if a book reviewer read 300 pages of a 400 page book and said “yeah, it’s ok, I don’t need to read the rest”. This is why games journalism is a joke.

        • Crispman

          I do agree with you there but it was only the final boss that he missed so I doubt his opinion would change

        • Andrew Barloq

          Not necessarily, if you play enough of a game you generally have a good sense of how it’s going to be, especially if the gameplay remains fairly static throughout all that playtime.

        • BrunoXX

          In his opinion it’s “just a completely unplayable mess”. Remember he giving a 2 as score?

    • Sperium3000

      He said so in the review, which you don’t seem to have read.

    • mrhair

      Haha, yeh, you go ahead and contact Metacritic.

    • Break down his review, and debate it point-by-point in a logical, thought-out manner, instead of acting like some limp-dicked Loki pretending to be a “video games tough guy”.

      If you can’t even do that, then you have no right to bitch. You’re just shooting blanks.

    • BrunoXX

      You don’t have to complete a game to don’t like it or find it terrible….

  • Mr Ixolite

    As someone who loves Shovel Knight to bits, I’m all about making concessions to modern developments in retro revivals, so I can understand Jims dissapointment.

    But really, I’m just here to say that Crash Bandicoots controls were in fact excellent, precisely because they ditched the slippery inertia of other 3D platformers. Controlling Croc is an absolute nightmare but Crash could turn in any direction on a dime, the camera was never an issue, and his big, handy shadow allowed accurate placement of jumps.

    Even if the levels were just “obstacle courses” rather than full environments, the level design and controls of Crash-especially 2 and 3- deserves more love.

    • Crispman

      Crash 1 had pretty bad depth perception

    • sakorasou

      dude as much as i love crash bandicoot(grew up with it and holds it as my favorite game series ever, it was my life when i was a kid and i love it to death) crash 1 had such a terrible camera it was unplayable at times, especially the segments where you ran and the camera was directed behind you to escape a boulder.

      the rest of the games where amazing(except those published by activision those where shit.

      • Mr Ixolite

        Having replayed until just past Ripper Roo recently, the times when you had to move towards the camera were definetly too limiting in your field of view, but apart from that I don’t see it as too bad. The depth perception complaint I can kinda get; at the very least, I’ve had a few deaths where I could’ve sworn I was on target.

        I guess latter stages, like the ones in the dark, get a bit out of hand with asking pinpoint precision and navigation of inch-wide platforms, but seeing as how they were the endgame I never thought much of it.

        Now Rayman, theres a game I cannot believe my tween self ever beat.

        • sakorasou

          never played rayman, except for the first 3D rayman game on pc, forgot its name but it was just a demo and from what i remember i loved it, but thats just nostalgia probably and i dont want to taint my memory of it by playing it again(made that mistake with crash 1)

          crash one was a bit of a mess but i loved it anyway and still do but crash 2 and 3 along with crash bash are masterpieces nearly perfect!

          • Mr Ixolite

            Rayman 2 onwards definetely toned down some of the insane difficulty of the 2D original, its just a shame they were so drab-looking until Origins/Legends.

            As for Crash, I hold 2 as the high water mark; I probably spent more time on the time trials of 3 than the rest of the series combined, but in terms of level design theres just a bit too much focus on gimmicks. Which is pretty much the exact same thing that happened with Spyro, Ape Escape, Jak & Daxter and Sly.

  • realmofthefigs

    ……..holy shit. I was a little worried from gameplay I saw leading up to this, but I’m actually surprised it’s this bad. I’m still going to play it and judge for myself because I donated to it. I might as well play my honorary copy of the finished product.

    • Arend

      Nah, this just happens to be the lowest-scored review for this game. Most reviews on Yooka-Laylee go pretty positive. The only consistent issues I’ve heard are the weird camera and some lagginess on the Xbox One and PS4.

      • BrunoXX

        Than you read other reviews than i…

  • Deplorable Mr Cat

    Ugh, piss poor camera in a platformer is a nonstarter. Epic Mickey had a horrible camera as well and it ruined an otherwise decent game.

    • Dariush

      thing is camera is really a pivotal aspect of any game(even in 2d sidescroller…remember those games that didnt give you any view of were you were gonna land after a jump or those stupid levels with a camera panning faster than the chacacter?).. and fucking it up means the game will suffer alot from it…last guardian is a masterpiece, but the damn camera and the debatable behaviour of Trico makes it a MUUUCh less enjoyable game.

      • Deplorable Mr Cat

        LOL, the legendary leaps of faith. I remember those days well.

  • goodbyejojo

    damn, after mighty no9, i expected much more from this, serves us all right by letting our nostalgia get the better of us

    • Uncle Satirical

      Or maybe Jim f**king dickhead son is a horrible reviewer.

      • SilentPony

        *sniff sniff* what smells so salty?

        • Uncle Satirical

          Get off Jim’s Dick. He’s a bad reviewer and a disgrace to journalism, just like all video games “journalists”

          • SilentPony

            Maybe a hint of Bitters?

          • Dariush

            man, come on who cares. I think the “cult of personality” is really stupid but an opinion is an opinion.

          • Bosch

            Isn’t it funny how every “bad review” you ever come across always just happens by wild coincidence to be one that opposes your opinion of the topic? Weird how that works.

          • Uncle Satirical

            It has nothing to do with my personal opinion of the game. A 2 is for unplayable trash that nobody would enjoy. He complains about things that fans of old school N64 platformers would enjoy.

          • Bosch

            So you’re really just going to maintain that’s just a happy coincidence? Okay then. So who wrote that’s what a 2 should be, where, and what gave them the authority to declare that?

          • Muddy Scarecrow

            He may be going by Jim’s definition of it which is on this very site. …Which would be weird since he seems to think Jim has trash opinions so why go by that one?

          • BrunoXX

            I don’t think that “fans of old school N64 platformers” would enjoy bad camera, bad movement and bad leveldesign….

          • So what’s an example of a “good” game reviewer?

          • Uncle Satirical

            There are none. There are zero standards for video game reviews and journalism.

          • So then why do you care what ANYONE’S opinion is of video games?

          • 09philj

            You be a video game journalist then, if it’s so easy.

          • Uncle Satirical

            This game is amazing but 2/10 because there are no black trans women in it.
            There, Was that good enough?

          • 09philj

            No.

          • Austin_sj

            Knew the alt reich would get here sooner or later. Typical that it’s over a baby game too.

      • Wellsy487

        Why read his review?

        • Uncle Satirical

          Because why not lol.

          • Wellsy487

            That makes no sense. I don’t read stuff I don’t like.

          • Bounty Hunter

            How do you know that you don’t like it unless you read it first?

          • Crispman

            If it’s made by the same person, it’s likely you wont like it from previous experience lol

          • Sonydrone

            He needs to read the review to say that the review suck, how dumb you have to be to not understand this?

  • Wellsy487

    Another bad game from kickstarter. Such a shame

    • Kyle

      You trust this review… such a shame.

      • CyanManta

        Oh my god, you’re still here?? Why aren’t you building that better-than-Jim’s website you swore you could make for a fraction of the budget?

    • 09philj

      Kickstarter’s had it’s fair share of successes too.

      • Wellsy487

        I know it has. Sadly the last two big games from kickstarter have been bad.

    • Arend

      Ah yes, a negative review from one single critic automatically soils the entire game.

      In actuality, there’s tons more positive reviews of this game. Most of them go up to an 8/10 score. Jim’s review just so happens to be only one of four bad-scored reviews, and the lowest one to boot, which makes me believe this game just isn’t for him.

      • Sonydrone

        For some people here, only their god opinion matters, they are forbidden to see other sites or play the game.

        • Andrew Barloq

          Robert Romine, is that you…?

          • InfamousDS

            I honestly would not be surprised.

        • Muddy Scarecrow

          He’s not a big fan of Link Between Worlds, my second favorite Zelda game. I don’t agree with his opinion at all. I moved on. What a concept.

      • BrunoXX

        I don’t think so. The average score on metacritic is 68…..

  • aaa

    I’m not a big fan of Rare collectathons (I loved them when I was 11-12 and I had just discovered emulation, now I think they’re ok) and have no interest in playing this game until it gets really cheap. BUT: Acting like Mario 64, Banjo and the PS1 Crash games are unplayable and their control is irredeemably horrible now makes it sound like you’re just really, really crap at platform games. Did those games age perfectly? Far from it, but come the fuck on, Crash is as simple as it gets – especially 2 and 3 where the spinning got way better and the camera could be fixated well thanks to the more linear nature of the level design.

    If you’re gonna go “LE ROSE TINTED GOGGLES XD” note that I never even played those games in the 90s – I didn’t grow up with any consoles except for a dumbass Famiclone. I only got to experience them in the 2000s when they were already dated and I still had fun.

    It cucks cuz I just read your Yakuza 0 review and it was very well-worded and insightful and well above the average reviewer and this just starts with the kind of awful sensationalist exaggeration I recalled seeing from you years ago.

    • Derpy Kitty

      Crash 1 is one of the worst controlling platform games. I can’t even complete the thing. Crash 2 and 3? Awesome. But yeah, Crash 1 is pretty terrible.

      Mario 64 is pretty rough with the original 64 controller, but with an actual analog controller it’s better. Never played the Banjo games, but I imagine they are similar to Mario 64.

      • Mr Ixolite

        Crash 1 is definetely more rough around the edges than its sequels, but its far from unplayable. The warthog stages are pretty clunky, but unless you’re going for the gems beating the game perfectly doable (well, at least I managed it back in the day). Granted, a large part of the game is 2.5D at most, but in keeping its 3D levels as simple paths moving at right angles its lightyears beyond something like Croc

    • Matrim

      I can’t speak to BK, but the camera controls for Mario 64 were utter piss. And CB…holy shit that game was a garbage fire. 2 was great, but the first one was borderline unplayable in my opinion.

      Anyway, my point is you can acknowledge that a game was a lot of fun and still point out glaring, sometimes critical, flaws they had.

  • Le pamplemousse

    If there’s anything that can be said of Jim Fucking Sterling, Son, it’s he’s honest. Perhaps we don’t always agree with his opinions, but I believe Jim is always telling his audience exactly, precisely how he feels. This review isn’t “click bait,” as the 12-year-olds of the internet love to cry every time an adult hurts their precious little feelings. He fucking backed this game, you petulant children. Had I backed this game and discovered that it turned out to be shit, it would probably be with something of a heavy heart that I would write a scathing review. But it would be the honest thing to do. Honestly, I only ever thought this game looked mildly interesting. But it’s not getting much love from those who can separate nostalgia from reality. My money can be better spent.

    • aaa

      Please stop talking like the try-hard “no-nonsense witty british man who uses a lot of fuckwords” that Jim trained you to be. It’s really transparently try-hard.

      The guy thinks Sonic Generations is irredeemably crap, he just has bad taste in platformers.

      • EmperorSRB

        Because that’s the game you like and he doesn’t means that he is wrong somehow?
        Do you understand just how hypocritical you sound here ?

      • Otherhand

        He gave it 8/10!

        Also, some of us are witty British people and don’t need to try.

        • EmperorSRB

          Shhh, he hates it ! Just like he hates Zelda, I mean 7/10, absolutely unbelievable !

          • BrunoXX

            You are right, 7 is even to high.

    • Kyle

      How exactly can you tell me that he’s honest? I’m not getting the impression he’s got one bit of honesty in him. Even Slant didn’t give this game a 2… it’s click bait.

      • aaa

        He just has dumb taste in 3D platformers period. When everyone else was saying “hey, Sega finally made an alright Sonic game, it’s not perfect but it’s fun!” with Generations he decided to be contrarian and go WOW FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT 1/10 3D SONIC IS CANCER while making little to no points of any actual substance.

        Once again, not even a Rare collectathon fan, Donkey Kong Country aged better, but this review sounds dumb as hell.

        • Muddy Scarecrow

          He liked Generations. It was Sonic Colors that he hated.

          • EmperorSRB

            Hey bud, he scored Sonic Generations with an 8 ? Or is even 8 a low score now ?

          • InfamousDS

            And Sonic Boom. And probably all the other Sonic games that weren’t Generations since the Dreamcast era and the hedgehog’s last great hurrah.

            But mostly Colors and Boom.

      • PerfectDork

        Why would he bother clickbaiting when his site makes no money from ad revenue? Just because he thinks he game is shit and others don’t doesn’t mean he has some ulterior motive. Quit being such a child.

        • Kyle

          Anyone that gives a decent complete game a 2/10 is a child. This guy can suck my nuts.

          • Fallen Prime

            I love how you’re ignoring the comment telling you to look at other reviews of his to assess his reviewing abilities rather than calling him shit over ONE you disagree with.

            Also you’re being petulant, whiny and immature. Please check before you wreck.

          • Crispman

            POUNDING IT!!!

    • E1ite Yoshi

      Same. I severely disagreed with his review of Breath of The wild but I respected. it.

    • Kyle Pierce

      Sorry, but if you actually read this review it’s not a very good review. It’s more like a hit piece.

      This is probably the first review of Jim’s that I actually think is just there to slam it. He gave far worse games than this higher scores & he gave Life of Black Tiger a 1/10. He also insults the game constantly in the review.

      • Le pamplemousse

        Sometimes a review from Roger Ebert read like a “hit piece.” Sometimes a work of entertainment is absolute dogshit. It happens.

      • Muddy Scarecrow

        But he backed the game. He invested actual money into it. Why would you be out to “hit” a game you put money into before it was even released?

        • Harvester of Sorrow

          for cover so his idiot fanboys would bring it up when defending him? maybe…

          • Muddy Scarecrow

            First of all thanks for calling me an idiot when all I did was bring up what I believe to be a pretty fair point. Second of all…Are you serious? Are. You. Serious? What is wrong with you people? Why do you insist on coming up with these bizarre fantasies about how much of an evil mastermind Jim Sterling is? What actually is your obsession? He’s a fat British over opinionated video game journalist whose opinions I don’t always agree with. But I love the way he uncovers bullshit in the industry and does his best to promote good ideas in the industry. Which is the REAL reason he backed Yooka Laylee btw. Not whatever nonsense you just came up with. He wants to promote games that people still want that AAA devs claimed died in demand long ago. Jim is not goddamn Lex Luthor. As cool as that would be.

      • EmperorSRB

        If you read his Life of the Black Tiger review, he was actually planing on not scoring the game at all or giving it a 0/10.
        Also he invested money in this game by backing up the Kickstarter, so writing a hit piece on this game is a pretty idiotic thing to do.

        • Adam Robert Sherman

          And hell, the fact that he invested money into this might be EXACTLY why he’s so hard on it.
          He hoped his money was going to make something good, and when it failed to be good… well, how would you feel if the money you invested was all for naught?

          • BrunoXX

            You got a point. I think if he diddn’t backed this game, he might has given him a 4 oder 5….

      • Bosch

        So… I’m confused. Is it his opinion, or is it a “hit piece” written “just to slam it”?

        • Kyle Pierce

          Hit pieces are usually based around a biased opinion.

          • Bosch

            So, sincere opinion, but unnecessary vitriol, basically? Okay, to be fair, I can see where you’re coming from there. I’m not saying I agree, but it’s coherent enough.

    • I’ll agree with your main point: he’s TOTALLY honest about how he feels. We KNOW that JFS,S wouldn’t take money or corporate massages to improve a score. And I thin kwe all love the bastard for that. <3

      But I worry that he kinda lets his feelings get the better of him with this one and Zelda.

      • Adam Robert Sherman

        And yet the main difference between this and Zelda – he thought Zelda was a good game.
        Not a masterpiece, but he didn’t think it was bad at all.

        • Good point! He gave it a 5, which is average for his scale.

          Reading his review definitely makes me feel like the expectations of the game affected his review of the game more than it should have.

          You can kinda see a pattern; he reviews sleeper hits better than big-budget games, and when a big-budget game is surprises him for the better, his gives it a splendid score.

  • Derpy Kitty

    I wonder if this is worse then Mighty No. 9 then? ;D

    • Kyle

      Look at Metacritic… he’s the only asshole to go THIS low.

      • WHO CARES?! Metacritic is not the lifeblood of video games.

        • Sperium3000

          It literally affects nothing.

          • Anton

            Tell that to Obsidian. Bethesda denied them a bonus because they only scored an 84 on New Vegas.

          • Sperium3000

            Yeah, and it sucks, but that was on Bethesda, not the reviewers.

          • Anton

            No disagreements there.

          • 09philj

            Except developers getting their bonus.

          • Sperium3000

            That was one time, and that was Bethesda being a dick.

          • Kyle

            UH no you are as uneducated as Jim here. Bungie also lost their bonus with Destiny.

          • Anton

            I’m going to count that as a “win”

          • Sperium3000

            That was two times, and that was Bethesda and Microsoft or whatever being a phallus.

          • Kyle

            Man you aren’t just stupid, you also like being knocked down before you are even able to stand back up.

          • Sperium3000

            Sure, just insult me for nothing, that’s cool, random person.

          • Kyle

            Don’t be an uneducated moron in 2017.

          • Sperium3000

            Why are you responding to the same comment twice? You know you can edit your comments, right?

          • Kyle

            Any negativity I can bring to this stupid blog I will bring.

          • Sperium3000

            So you’re just admitting you’re straight up you’re harassing this blog because Jim didn’t like the stuff you like.

          • Crispman

            It does affect things to some degree, but not the amount that people say.

          • Sperium3000

            I meant to the avarage consumer. A lot of people act like Metacritic literally has an effect on their everyday life.

          • Crispman

            Oh, yeah, no, it doesn’t lol

        • Kyle

          It is for a lot of developers… I hate it as well, but the fact is: it’s more important than you think.

          This is a review I would deem as immature so it should be at the bottom of the heap, but this low? WOW what a douche bag.

          • An overwhelming amount of bad reviews would hurt a game more than one person posting their opinion of it.

          • Kyle

            There is not enough depth in this review to call it an opinion. It’s a preference and it doesn’t deserve to be listed as a publication. Someone clearly made a mistake.

          • Depth doesn’t really matter. It’s still his opinion. You can agree with it or don’t agree with it, but it’s still his opinion. Just like every review.

          • Piratepoots

            Nobody should be required to tweak their opinions of a game simply for the sake of the developers getting a bonus. Destiny, used in your example earlier, was an underwhelming game and many reviewers that liked the game, scored it lower due how incomplete it felt, whether they liked it or not, and some people just outright thought of it as a failure.

            This game may only appeal to those who want a Banjo and Kazooie game. People that want a proper platformer with all of the bells and whistles might not like it and some may even want a refund. That’s just the way it goes.

          • Bosch

            Weird. I’m checking every dictionary I can find, and not one of them lists a minimum depth for the definition “opinion”, nor lists “preference” as “an opinion with less depth”. Is there a source you can provide for these definitions that isn’t located in your anal cavity?

          • Crispman

            He’s self published

          • Riosine

            Who cares if a review is of satirical or childish style , several reviewers have identified a problem with the game’s camera,

            And the developers should fix it the camera if they expect to people to purchasetheir game

          • Warmadillo Inc.

            It is not Jim’s job to give any amount of shits about the developers of this game. His job is to provide us with his honest opinion which is why we fund him.

        • 09philj

          ARTISTIC COMMUNISM MUST RISE.

      • Matrim

        So…you think he should rate it higher than he believes it deserves so as not to harm the Meta score? So, should we just assign all games a default 9/10 so that no one has to worry about scores anymore?

      • Derpy Kitty

        I actually liked Mighty No. 9, but that doesn’t mean everyone who says it’s bad is an asshole. It’s a bad game, but I like it. Maybe the same can go for this?

  • I’m filling a LOT of “Dumb, Accusational, Overreactive Comments” Bingo cards today. Seriously, I’ve filed three already since this review was posted.

    • Crispman

      I know. Entertaining isn’t it?

    • Dariush

      i accept that. I realize that almost everybody tend to sound like that when expressing a negative opinion on someone else’s opinion. Its perfectly fine and thats truly what makes it fun to comment and chat about stuff. The comment section would have no reason to be here if it was all “bravo, good review”.

      • Crispman

        It would. You can have an objectively good review that you disagree with

      • It’s the people who call Jim a fat, SJW c u c k or saying he does it for clickbait or purposely affecting the Metacritic score or any other ridiculous conclusion.

        • Dariush

          well, he IS all of those things 😀

          • He is?

          • Dariush

            well, he’s surely Fat, he is in that SJW area(hell, when you write that Laylee is a racist you’re kinda asking for it 😉 ) and i think he had admitted several times he’s in some kind of “polyamorous” shit…so i guess he is.

    • CyanManta

      1) “Jim is clickbaiting.”
      2) “Jim’s website sucks in general.”
      3) “I’d like to see Jim make a better game.”
      4) “Jim didn’t finish the game.”
      5) “Metacritic disagrees with Jim.”
      6) “Review is okay, but score is too low.”
      7) “And yet, Jim gave this OTHER game 9/10…”
      8) “Why am I reading this review?”
      9) “But [this mechanic] the whole POINT of the game!”
      10) “Don’t be a dick, Jim.”
      11) “Jim is biased against [company].”
      12) “Jim shouldn’t have played it on [this system].”
      13) [review inaccessible/DDoS attack in progress]
      14) “Shut up about the framerate, Jim.”
      15) “Jim is an SJW c u c k.”
      16) “Nobody cares, Jim.”

      If we get 10-12 more entries, this could become a thing.

      • I want this to be a thing. Can we make this a thing? Someone make this an actual thing.

        • CyanManta

          I’m making some for free online. I’m so close to having a full 5×5 grid.

      • Andrew Barloq

        You missed the guy who said that Jim’s fat and therefore his opinion must be wrong anyway.

      • Oh! A few more to add (along with Andrew Barloq’s suggestions):

        17) HE’S FAT!
        18) Reviews should be objective!

        • CyanManta

          Yooka-Laylee is a video game.
          It scores numbers out of a number.
          Buy it.
          Or don’t buy it.

      • Crispman

        You forgot “Drink bleach you fat cunt”

        • CyanManta

          “Drink Bleach” should be the free space.

  • Davorbasic

    I smell a shitstorm

  • trTribe

    well I mean you already mention Snake Pass in your review so any chance to get a full review of that so people can see how a good 3D platformer can be? I’m in love with the game, especially since it really keeps me thinking but doesn’t frustrate since the mechanics while in theory simple are so hard to really get right for me

  • Anton

    Internet Lifehack #486: If you whine hard enough, the bad review that’s hurting your feelings will go away and everyone will tell you how cool you are.

    • Crispman

      You’ll also have all the sex

      • Anton

        The Qur’an tells us that internet martyrs get 72 virgins; specifically, the other 72 pieces of shit whining about “clickbait”

        • Dariush

          it doesnt tell you that those virgins have to STAY virgins…

          • Crispman

            POUNDING IT!!!

        • Crispman

          Oh really? That’s a shame. I was hoping for all the waifu sex but the suppose an orifice is an orifice.

          • Kyle

            We get it you are a cheap comment and a like… I’m sure your appreciated by someone…

          • Crispman

            I am. My Mummy loves me. XOXO

          • Anton

            You do get a waifu pillow, but the only print available is JonTron

          • Crispman

            Awwww, but he’s waipoo! (On a serious note i’m sorry to hear about what he did)

    • Kyle

      Other than the last part you nailed it right on the head. I don’t like being the villain here. But Jim sucks.

      • If he bothers you that much, why follow him at all? I don’t like, say, that Sargon guy, but I don’t make it a point to visit his YouTube channel, watch his videos, and make comments about how much I dislike him or his work. I just don’t waste my time with him.

        • Anton

          Sir, this sub-thread is for shitposting only.

          • Oh! Sorry! Hang on. Let me switch gears.

            FUCKING SJW CLICKBAIT FAT C U C K!

          • Kyle

            I saw this 2/10 score on metacritic, before that I had no idea who this guy was and now I know why. It’s because he can’t write a review to save his life.

          • 09philj

            Only morons make assumptions based on anecdotal evidence.

          • Kyle

            A few pictures and paragraphs is hardly reliable to match that awfully low score. Even a genius like you should be able to recognize that.

          • 09philj

            You’ve read one review. If you actually cared about assessing Jim’s abilities, you would have read several reviews about games you both like and dislike, rather than reading one review you disagree with and screeching about how he’s the worst thing ever.

          • Crispman

            Nah, watch his other stuff. He’s great

          • He also gave the new Zelda a 7/10. Fun stuff!

          • Kyle

            If my mind wasn’t already set in stone. He actually got me because I’m reading his mind right now:

            “My reviews sure are lackluster, what do I to get more comments and attention… hmmm…”

            Well first off he played all you guys because you actually believe he’s honest.

          • Andrew Barloq

            You heard about him 30 minutes ago apparently, some of us have been following him for years. Who do you think has a better idea of how Jim operates…?

            Jim has a hard time getting into mechanically clunky games – it’s why he didn’t like The Last Guardian and why he gave Zelda a 7/10, while Nioh got a 10/10. Yooka-Laylee is clearly just not a game for him at all. 2/10 is harsh perhaps, but I can certainly see it being honest.

          • Anton

            Can’t tell if retarded, or genius troll.

          • Crispman

            …OR BOTH!

          • Anton

            Mother of God…..

          • Crispman

            There’s only one solution…

          • Well, honest or not, I still read it as his opinion. I’ve disagreed on him many times, but I don’t flip out about it.

          • EmperorSRB

            And he’s not honest because he does not comply to your views ?
            Did I get it right ?

          • Daniel Jensen

            Jim’s made it pretty clear in the past that he doesn’t want ‘attention’ from angry wankers who only visit his site to scream and throw bile at him over a review they don’t approve of, and how narcissistic it is to think ANYONE wants such behaviour anywhere near them.

            Anyway, if he DID rate it good, he’d just get accused of jumping the bandwagon for attention or being a paid shill or whatever. Why put in any effort to “get attention by being dishonest” when honesty will get the exact same effect?

          • Matrim

            Apparently he can write a review to support his life, though, seeing as how he’s been a professional games journalist for years

    • Riosine

      I mostly come here to see Fanboys like Kyle being silly, If anything fanboys are the true source of the clickbait in most reviews sites

      • Sonydrone

        Cool, i come here just to see Jim worshipers like you and Anton defending him no matter what, so much fun!

        • EmperorSRB

          Nahh, you come here to complain, like almost everyone else here does.
          You’re not even worthy being defended from.

        • Riosine

          Well I mostly ignore Jim since he almost never reviews PC games, so he is well meh.
          However, as a result, console peasant get to flock this site and they tend to behave like zealots. They are lots of fun

  • Powermad80

    Is it just me or did this score get removed from metacritic?

    Edit: It’s just me, it’s there on the XBox One tab, not just not PS4 or PC. Could have sworn it was on the PS4 tab too at first.

  • So it seems like XOne and PS4 have some of the same performance issues (that aren’t tied to janky controls); does anyone know how the PC version performs? Could this be a bad port situation for PS4/XOne?

    • Dariush

      i dont think is out yet on PC..it says 12/04 on steam

  • I can count with one hand the number of times I’ve ever even visited Metacritic. I don’t give a shit about it.

    Of course, my numbers may be off since I’m constantly using the OTHER hand to masturbate.

    • Crispman

      POUNDING IT!!!

    • Anton

      In that case, you should visit more often; fanboy tears are a great lotion substitute.

      Just keep it out of open wounds, the salt content is off the charts.

      • I don’t mind salt on my open wounds.

        *smiles creepily* I like the pain.

        • Anton

          Oh man, I like you

    • Otherhand

      oi

    • 09philj

      I go there to see how fucked any new DC movie is getting.

    • Hahaha. Metacritic is such a trash site.
      Still, I do worry about devs, because even though we both know it’s trash, they kinda rely on it. I think Jim interviewed some people trapped at a garbage AAA company whose bonuses literally relied on an 8/10 instead of a 7/10.

  • God Bless MS’s Rare

    “Combat is brainless” – have you ever played any 3D platformer ever? It’s not even in the top 20 most important aspects of the genre

    • Crispman

      I dunno, Challenging timing is usually a big part.

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        it’s like complaining that Mario’s combat is awful because all you do is jump

    • Sonydrone

      When you are nitpicking is the most important thing,

    • Kyle

      THANK YOU… in this pile of garbage I have found a diamond.

      • Bosch

        I dunno. It was only two sentences. That’s not in depth enough to be a valid opinion. But I guess those criteria of yours just magically evaporate when someone agrees with you and slam down when they don’t, huh?

    • 09philj

      Mario 64 has pretty varied combat, for what it is. Some enemies are punched, some are jumped on, some are run around, and so on.

      • Dariush

        exactly. You can keep the combat simple and still having some variety in the approach to it. Mario always made it well, imho.

    • DrunkSuperman

      sorry stranger but I cant trust the comments of someone with that Conker userpic

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        I’m using this pic for crack addiction awareness

    • Diablo2000

      It’s still an issue. Just because it’s not as important as other factors, doesn’t make magically “Okay”.

    • Sonydrone

      The next plataformer he will give a 3 because don’t have a good history like TLOU and don’t have any way to level up and spend your points to customize your character.

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        will he call it “borderline unplayable”?

    • Riosine

      C’mon Fanboys and Jim haters, You’re supposed to be saying that Jim missed the Final boss now, and that everyone knows the final boss is the only challenges in platformers

      Damnit do I have to think for yourselves now too!?

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        so he posts reviews without beating the games? well look at that

        • EmperorSRB

          And you post comments without reading the review.
          He even mentioned it in the very review that he never meant to get back to the game.
          You have a point if the camera, level design and combat improves in the game later on, which is highly unlikely.

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            I read that, but how come you review something without checking it in its entirety? That’s how reviewers gave MGS5 a 10

          • EmperorSRB

            If you’re reviewing a car and it came to you bent and broken to pieces with an engine missing, you’re not going to have to test drive it to determine that it’s not really worth it.
            Same goes with games, and almost every other product you’re reviewing.

          • Riosine

            what’re you doing? Are you trying to speak reason unto the Fanboys? Damnit , You should encourage them to be stupid instead these Bimbos looks so cute

          • EmperorSRB

            Shit man, you shouldn’t have seen this. I’ll give myself 50 lashes and will repent for my sins.

        • Codename Codeman

          I’m sorry to burst your bubble, but no one who reviews games for their full-time job beats every game they review. It’s just not possible. Especially true this year where, for some reason, there is a holiday season-level deluge of games coming out.

    • EmperorSRB

      But yet again it’s featured in the game.

  • InfamousDS

    Podquisition is gonna be one hell of a time.

    • Crispman

      What’s that?

      • Anton

        Jim’s podcast

        • Crispman

          He’s got a podcast?!?! WHERE????

          • Anton

            This website. Usually goes up on thursdays.

            Alternatively, look up “Podquisition” on Soundcloud

          • Crispman

            Oooooh. I wish I knew sooner! Thanks! 😀

      • Kyle

        Obviously this idiot has a podcast to collide with the rest of his crappy content. I’d like to go one on one with him in it. But he wouldn’t dare because he would be slayed by a god.

        • 09philj

          Of course, you know all his content is crap, because you’ve consumed most of it haven’t you?

          • Kyle

            Even his review font goes over the villain of the game. It’s all crap.

        • Diablo2000

          He’s also does a series of videos on Youtube. Which by the way the shitstorm is going is also going to be fun.

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            so his next monday episode will be him dissing the Yooka Laylee fanbase?

          • Diablo2000

            Don’t know. Don’t claim to have inside information (because I don’t). But it’s known to happen.

          • Crispman

            Dunno… the BoTW debacle wasn’t very long ago and was similar

          • InfamousDS

            It will be mentioned to make people stop asking him to do an episode, but he probably won’t do a whole episode. It will just be rehashing points he already made over No Man’s Sky, Mad Max, FFXV’s delay announcement, and Breath of the Wild. At some point you just can’t waste time on those who refuse to listen.

          • Marcelo Ou Hare Pirani

            Just out of curiosity… how can a game what hasn’t even been released yet have a fanbase?

        • Anton

          You’re not entitled to review Jim Sterling until you’ve finished 100% (“Beaten”, if you will) of his reviews.

          • Kyle

            I think I played more of the the game just watching it.

          • Matrim

            And boom goes the dynamite.

          • Crispman

            But at what point are the lines drawn between “beating” and “completing”?

            Beating…
            Beating…
            POUNDING IT!!!

        • Matrim

          That you have already admitted you are unfamiliar with. Jesus, the salt on you.

        • EmperorSRB

          Slayed by who, by you ?
          You’re a plain old hypocrite, and they are not worth looking at, let alone arguing with.

      • InfamousDS

        It’s Jim’s official podcast. Starring himself, Gavin Dunne (Le Miracle of Sound), and Laura K Buzz.

        This review posted today, and they record either late Tuesday or at some point on Wednesday barring scheduling conflicts. This fiasco will come up.

        Edit:
        Well damn. Beaten to the punch AND I attracted a fanboy troll. Social Justice Summoner strikes again!

  • Kyle Pierce

    I think everyone is forgetting a key detail mentioned in Jim’s review…

    He reviewed the XBOX version! Of course it got a 2/10!

    • Matrim

      It is a bit toss.

    • Anton

      Oh snap. Sony shill confirmed.

      • Kyle Pierce

        I’m a PC/Nintendo boy, don’t have a PS4 or Xbox but if I had to choose one it would be PS4.

        • Anton

          I was joking, I meant Jim…..

          • Kyle Pierce

            Sorry, I just have this weird OCD where I have to respond to shit.

    • Riosine

      Yeah it would be interesting to hear if the PC version simply for having a mouse or IF the switch plays awkward for the joy cons

  • sakorasou

    wow damn… after reading a review of a gaming news site in my own country, this is harsh, they gave it a 9/10

    how can they be so different?

    • 09philj

      It’s like Marmite, or fighting games, or Dark Souls. Either it’s for you and you love it, or it’s not and you hate it.

      • Sonydrone

        No one gave a 2 (not even close) to Dark Souls, don’t try too hard!

        • 09philj

          I would. I hate it.

          • Sonydrone

            Grats, you are on the same level of Jim reviews.

        • EmperorSRB

          Just because no one gave it a 2 doesn’t mean there are people who wouldn’t have done so.
          Your argument here is pretty stupid.

          • Andrew Barloq

            We’re pretty goddamn early in the review process too, there’s plenty more coming.

      • Jonathan Allbritten

        Generally, when that happens though, more critically inclined reviewers abstain or bring in a second party or something.

        I think the reason part of this, the review, exists in the format it does instead of a more appropriate reaction piece is that Jim was a Backer and he had high hopes for this game for his own enjoyment and personal reasons.

  • Austin_sj

    Boohoo Jim
    Doesn’t agree with me on a game, wah wah!
    More like Yooka for babies.

    • Kyle

      Come on his whole review was more about the people that liked Banjo. He’s an ass hat!

      • 09philj

        That would make you a hypocrite.

  • Jonathan Allbritten

    Well……just, well….That was harsh. Not that I even knew what the game was before this review, but Jim………just, dude, I can say that while most of your reviews are pretty well written (even the harsher ones) this probably should have stayed in that special hate space you reserve for games you dislike so much you refuse to score them.

    This reads a bit more like a blog than your normal work. Your feelings bleed through the entire piece and sounds like you just needed to get that off your chest.

    This probably would’ve been funnier if framed it not as a serious score but as a reaction piece or just something to share your thoughts in a funny way

    • Kyle

      More smart people are emerging!

    • Kyle Pierce

      Yea, that’s pretty much what I got out of it.

    • Артём Андреев

      Every review is an opinion. This is his.

      • Jonathan Allbritten

        While true to a degree, it’s all about how that’s presented. The writing structure. Technical word choice. Etc…

        I’m not commenting on his opinion, but his work is normally a lot better constructed.

        What we have here is something I wouldn’t be surprised to see on a Reddit post. Informative and certainly opinionated, but it misses that proffesional polish that makes readers follow along and nod at the points your making.

        • Codename Codeman

          I agree. The review reads like he was just in a bad mood, period. Like how I get without coffee for example. The Breath of the Wild review for example is much more level-headed.

      • Kyle

        Generic response and actually not true because an opinion is educated. A preference case is what this is.

        • Bosch

          So. What preferences (since squealing “NOT AN OPINION” and running off was your excuse last time, and you’ve refused to say where your special custom-tailored redefinition of “preference” comes from) are people allowed to have about this game?

        • Exactly. He entered this game with his own biases and preferences based on his own experiences with video games.

          Which is EXACTLY how every game review works.

          • Kyle

            No people talk about the depth of the game, interesting things that they discovered what works and what doesn’t. He doesn’t give any impression that he has actually completed the game.

            An issue I see with youtubers specifically that do this whole click bate thing. The whole message of the review is in the click bait so anyone that reads his review and has a shade of intelligence would be left disappointed,

          • You keep saying he didn’t complete the game, but you have absolutely zero evidence to prove it. Also, a 2 would indicate that he didn’t think many things worked.

          • Anton

            And you didn’t complete grade school, but we still have to put up with your shit.

          • Артём Андреев

            Yeah, because a Patreon-supported reviewer that runs an ad-free site would benefit oh-so-much from clickbait.

          • Sonydrone

            Of course, more people knowing Jim’s work, more people donating on patreon, what is so hard to understand here?

          • Артём Андреев

            That is not hard to understand. It’s just that it has nothing to do with clickbait, that’s all.

          • Sonydrone

            There is everything to do with a clickbait (if was a clickbait)

          • Артём Андреев

            Nope. Clickbaits work by generating controversy and provoking anger in people. When you’re on Patreon, however, you want to please the general crowd to generate the good will and increase your patron base. Doing clickbait while being purely Patreon-funded is not only not beneficial, it actually might be actively harmful since some patrons angered by a controversial opinion might just take their funds and go.

          • Sonydrone

            Are you saying that reviews are on the same level of people bitching on comments section? People are reaching new levels of stupidity trying to defend Jim.

          • Where on earth did you get that from what I said? Because you’re putting words in my mouth. I was talking specifically about game reviews, which are not objective, no matter how much people claim they are or ever were.

          • Sonydrone

            They are in part, when you talk about bugs, fps, lenght, etc.
            Ex:
            I don’t like GTA 5 because i don’t like this kind a game but i would gave a 9 to the game because the game succeds on whats is trying to do.(good sandbox, good physics, good fps, good graphics, etc)

          • See, your opinion of what makes a sandbox game or good graphics may differ from someone else. Some people aren’t bothered if a game is only 30 FPS and not 60 (I don’t or even notice the difference). Length isn’t objective, either, because a game like Portal is pretty short and it got plenty of acclaim.

          • Sonydrone

            Never said that a game need to have all this elements, i just showing to you that a lot of things are objective.

            If i say that the game runs on 30fps, people that only like to play with 60fps can CHOOSE by this objective info if they want to play the game. If i say that the game has a lot of bugs, people that care about bugs can choose not buy the game and vice versa.

            It’s is impossible to be 100% objective, but the best reviews are the ones that are trying really hard be objective as possible.

        • Артём Андреев

          An opinion is an opinion, educated, uneducated, it doesn’t matter. If you disagree with this opinion, do so by all means. Just do so in a civil matter. Like an actual adult.

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        sounded more like a rant from an IGN commenter

  • DrunkSuperman

    so with such a low score this is has to be “free” on GWG or PSN+ soon right?

  • E1ite Yoshi

    So based on what I’ve from reviews across the board, this game is definitely divide a lot of people. I will give Jim Sterling credit for this with him being honest, even though the way he worded parts of the review, were jarring at best for me. I know there’s gonna be a lot of negative comments (already saw them on GamesSpot’s review of this so it doesn’t surprise me). But if you want my advice just take the review with a grain of salt. Although if I had to inject my thoughts on the review it’s definitely harsh. but also I noticed that some points he brought up weren’t fully explained, To be honest a lot of these reviews feel they’re bashing Yooka-Laylee for what it set out to do. Last I checked there was a lot of people that wanted a proper sequel to Banjo-Tooie or at least another Banjo game that’s good.

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      I don’t get those critcising the game for having “Advancement locked behind collecting objects”

      I mean, that IS what a 3D collectathon is supposed to feature…

      • Miles Saintborough

        It could be either not his cup of tea or maybe it was done in a way he didn’t like.

    • I totally agree with you.

      Agreed. I’ll never fault Jim for not giving us his honest feelings.
      That said, I wonder if pieces like this are all about Feelings. Same with “Breath of the Wild.” It seems like expectations might have affected his review more than, say, Helldivers (an excellent game, but then again we didn’t know what to expect.) Or “Titanfall 2,” where he was pleasantly surprised.

  • Ricardo Cantoral

    “They’re more contrived bits of magical bullshit you pick up so you can buy new moves from Trowzer the snake (he’s named after a penis).”

    And this is where I stopped​ reading. You really have a bug up your ass. Also what was this crap about Laylee being a racist ?

    • Dallium

      Maybe you should have kept reading

    • Warmadillo Inc.

      Read the rest of the review to find out.

      • Kyle

        Yeah it only takes about thirty seconds because he didn’t play the game.

        • Warmadillo Inc.

          What point are you even trying to make? You disagree, move on.

          • Kyle

            Trying to protect platformers from idiots

          • Oh shit, you guys. We have official officer of the Platformer Police! I didn’t realize!

          • Bosch

            OH CRAP! Look out! He’s going to… uh…. loudly state his disagreement with the review, over and over. That’ll… change… something, I bet! Be careful!

          • Look out, he might call Jim fat!

          • Warmadillo Inc.

            You’re not protecting anything from anyone, other than your small mind from a differing opinion. This game is not your friend or family. And there’s nothing you can do about this review being posted.

          • Kyle

            Oh yes there is something I can do about it. I am strong unlike you. You only believe that because that’s how you feel about yourself whenever you try to do anything.

          • Warmadillo Inc.

            I’ll just quote Jim directly here since it summarizes my feelings towards you best, “There’s nothing you can do about it, nerd.”

          • Crispman

            But remember: he has layers, like an ogre

          • Sonydrone

            Yeah, it’s so ironic to see Jim calling someone nerd. LOL

          • Andrew Barloq

            I’m pretty sure that was the point when he said it.

          • Codename Codeman

            You sound like a 16 year old white kid about to shoot up his school

          • Anton
          • Crispman

            POUNDING IT!!!!

    • Kyle

      Fat people… they are good at triggering but terrible at following up. Why because they are too busy eating and then telling people they are depressed it they probe. I mean look at boogie.

      • You must be huge, then, for how much this review is triggering you.

        • Kyle

          I have one objective… to bring this review down. Keep in mind this is my day off.

          A lot of people out there still look for platformers, and I see this fat fuck as a sabotage. Not a human being.

          • To bring this review down? Seriously? How? How is that even going to work? What, will you DDoS attack his site?

            You’re overreacting to ridiculous levels at this point, talking about the opinion of ONE PERSON somehow sabotaging the game.

          • Anton

            Well, they say there is no limit to human idiocy, so if he channels that somehow, maybe he can actually pull it off….

          • Kyle

            This review got into the consensus pool on a metacritic. So yeah you are right about that first part.

          • Anton

            Hey, the longer you worry about the consensus pool, the longer you stay out of the genepool, so your efforts are a-ok by me.

          • Codename Codeman

            nice

          • Crispman

            No no! Keep going! It gets better every time!

          • He just keeps pounding his opinion at us like it’ll mean anything.

          • Crispman

            “He just keeps pounding…”
            ….


            POOOOUUUUUNNNNDIIIINNNGGGG IIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!!!!

          • I imagining you saying it like Goku powering up and that’s awesome. 😀

          • Crispman

            And this… is to go even further beyond! *Deep throaty voice* POOOOUUUUUNNNNDIIIINNNGGGG IIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!!!!

          • Oh shit, he’s turned into a Super Pounding It 2!

          • Crispman

            As my pubes turn yellow and grow 10 times longer along with my dick XD

          • I am so turned on right now.

          • Crispman

            *Edit: Deep throating voice*

          • Matrim

            And you’ve gone from being an overly touchy baby to being a flat out garbage person. Duly noted.

          • Kyle

            He decided to be a garbage person when he punched in that fake ass score.

          • DJ OakeyDoakey

            What demographic does Kyle represent? His disdain for this review perplexes me.

          • Crispman

            The people of South Park

          • DJ OakeyDoakey

            It can’t be that Kyle. Southpark Kyle has more depth.

          • Anton

            Yeah. Unlike our Kyle, South Park Kyle learned something today.

          • Crispman

            True. The REAL Kyle understands the hilarity of the word vigina.

          • He apparently represents the Platformer Police and Metacritic.

          • DJ OakeyDoakey

            THE PPM!!!! Don’t fuck with those guys.

          • Matrim

            Well, tell you what, you become a professional critic, work for years building a brand and consumer confidence, get big enough for Metacritic to allow your review to have weight, then go ahead and publish a 10/10 to offset it.

          • Andrew Barloq

            Jesus Christ man, at least try to enjoy your day off. I’m only participating because it’s preferable to working haha.

          • Bosch

            “I have one objective… to bring this review down.”

            Tell us how you’re going to accomplish that.

          • Codename Codeman

            I am going to imbue myself with a false sense of grandiosity, and delude myself into thinking I have even the slightest modicum of power over what an internet critic does, because that is my crack cocaine and you will not take it away from me.

          • RipTide

            How is this review, no any review, sabotage? If people are looking for platformers and they find this then see one person gave it a bad review, but other people seem to like it, why would they just assume that the one person has the same opinion as them? Jim doesn’t like the game, so what he is just one guy.

          • Codename Codeman

            Forgot to take your meds today, eh

          • Fallen Prime

            Wait, hold up, what?

            Oh my god, you are the biggest baby I’ve ever seen. And also an idiot, if you think a man undeterred by a year-long frivolous lawsuit from a now-defunct indie “developer” will alter or remove a single review because one guy who doesn’t like it whines at him.

            He didn’t like it. Grow your ass up.

          • EmperorSRB

            Oh you’re going to succeed alright.
            Just DDOS the site as you people normally do, because silencing people who think differently is a road to success ! Or is it a road to fascism ? I’m not really sure.

          • It’s the road to being an idiot. Though I think this guy has been stuck in that traffic for a long time.

          • EmperorSRB

            I don’t think he’s still stuck in traffic. I think he already reached his destination a while back and even built a house there.

          • Anton

            Nah, he just dug an outhouse hole, then decided to live in it.

          • Anton

            It’s the road to a fucking migraine for me.

          • galactix100

            Fucking grow up pal.

          • Kyle

            I’m only playing how he played this game.

      • Bosch

        At least we’ve got an admission that you’ve triggered now.

      • 09philj

        What’s your obsession with fat people? Did a fat person touch you when you were young?

        • Kyle

          Yes.

          • Anton

            Good. It would appear you retroactively deserve it.

          • EmperorSRB

            That was a good one. I applaud to you mister.

          • Miles Saintborough

            Or maybe some fatty had sat on him

          • Anton

            Hey, some people pay good money for that.

      • Jeroen van den Crommenacker

        What the fuck do you even mean by triggering? That word means nothing anymore

    • Twentydragon

      I get the sense that she’s a lot like Kazooie but significantly less nice. Then again, I have yet to play the game, so I can’t confirm.

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        since when was Kazooie nice? She was rude af lol

        • Twentydragon

          Exactly. Now use that as your baseline.

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            hey I’m seeing this as something to look forward to

          • InfamousDS

            Kazooie was fun mean. From the sound of it, and based on what I saw slash the fact Yooka was chastising her a LOT in the preview footage I saw, Laylee is just mean. I don’t have a problem with it now, but I also have only seen footage from last year and the ToyBox, so… Maybe not the best judge.

          • Twentydragon

            Could very well be. 🙃

      • Ricardo Cantoral

        I don’t get how an animal ripping on other animals is “racist”.

        • God Bless MS’s Rare

          welcome to 2017, in which everything is considered wrong

          • Andrew Barloq

            Jim later clarifies in the review that he was joking. You’d know that if you completed the review though.

          • Jawes

            Well if he doesn’t finish a game before reviewing then why finish reading his review?

          • Andrew Barloq

            Because you’re trying to establish a moral high ground, if nothing else?

        • Anton

          Well, once you get to middle-school literature, you will learn that things can sometimes mean other things.

          It’s called a “meduphur” and it’s very complicated.

          • Ricardo Cantoral

            That doesn’t apply here. We are speaking of a stock smart ass character.

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      oh so that’s who Jontron voices in the game…

    • galactix100

      Maybe you’d have found out about Laylee if you didn’t stop reading half way through.

      • Ricardo Cantoral

        I am sorry I read the first half.

  • Max Whiteley

    David Wise has composed pretty much all of my favourite video game soundtracks, from golden eye to his (kinda) triptych-masterpiece The Donkey Kong Country soundtracks.
    I’m happy to see that Jim noted he and his fellow composers are still banging out brilliant video game music!

    It’s just a pity that the game itself doesn’t seem to hold up. Oh well I will just purchase the soundtrack if I can?

    • A lot of games on Steam games have the soundtracks for sale as well, so I would imagine this will, too.

    • Kyle

      So I guess the game got a 2 because of the soundtrack? IF you take out that, I guess the game would have gotten a zero from this grease ball.

      • There is no 0 in Jim’s scoring guide.

      • I thought he didn’t give out zeroes

      • Max Whiteley

        No you didn’t read closely enough.
        He said he was going to leave it ungraded, kinda like a zero, but did find a reason to keep plugging through. Such as the colourfulness of the game and the music. Not the soundtrack.

  • Peter West

    So a retro game is getting slated for being retro and keeping a lot of the design decisions that were popular in the 90’s? Wow, there’s a shock. So far as I can see Playtonic have pretty much delivered what they said they would – leave it to masochists like me who love collect-a-thons to enjoy it. 🙂

    • Riosine

      Yeah horrible Camera was the most popular feature in Sonic Adventure game, ah good old times

      • Crispman

        “…we can escape from the ci-taaaaay!”

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        word, I miss the Dreamcast

        you underrated piece of beauty

    • EmperorSRB

      I don’t think they were popular as much as just being there because there wasn’t really anything better.

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        You say as if the late 90s were shit when they were the opposite!

        • EmperorSRB

          No, late 90s were progressive, and people dealt with this things because they got something new and different, never seen nor done before to such an extent.
          Making a complete reproduction of a 90s game to the very intricate detail 20 years later is shit though.

      • Peter West

        You mean like Super Mario 64? It was generally considered at the time that Banjo Kazooie was the better game and I certainly agreed with that, particularly given it was a totally new IP. Each to their own of course.

    • Xell

      So, you like bad cameras?
      You like random quiz sections nobody asked for?
      Then why aren’t you playing Banjo-Kazooie while you wait for the game and wasting your time commenting on a critic who already said early in the review that it’s pretty much what some people wanted but not what he did because it’s his opinion and not yours?

      Just curious as to your opinion.

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        if you want a new Banjo you kinda expect for quiz sections, that’s a series staple

        • Xell

          I’m okay with that, never been my favorite parts and I understand people like it. However, the camera was a more important part as it’s the result of a controller with 1 analog stick and devs not knowing how to design 3D games yet. And now that we know how to make good cameras, why go back to a system that doesn’t work as well?

          that’s kind of what Jim’s trying to get at here. While it’s fine to enjoy the game and enjoy where it came from with design of the time it was designed for, it’s also good to apply the changes and updates for certain mechanics and ideas now that we have better versions of them if you are making a game not in those years. You can still have your retro-inspired collectathons, hell I’d love some, but when i see HD graphics like that I associate different control schemes than Banjo-Kazooie, and that frustrates me.

      • Peter West

        So far as i’m aware games don’t have a tick list of features that the gamers get to vote on. The quiz section is an extension of Gruntys Furnace Fun from the first game, a game which was also full of mini games just like this one.

        As for what i’m playing – actually I have been replaying Banjo Kazooie over the last few weeks. Still a fantastic game even by todays standards, so long as you don’t mind games being a little more challenging.

        • Xell

          I’m not saying they should have one. I’m just saying I particularly don’t like quizzes and I know a few others that don’e like it, and that I find them filler in a game that doesn’t need it. I. personally, liked the minigames in Banjo-Kazooie.

          That being said, they didn’t kickstart this in 1990. Why is it designed like it is? Maybe they wanted to be like Shovel Knight? Because Shovel Knight totally didn’t change things to make it more appealing to modern audiences or removed things entirely because they don’t work as well as they used to.

  • Ohbaaskah

    Kyle? Did you back this game or maybe a dev? Just curious.

  • Lukasz Kaczynski

    Jontron must be laughing now 🙂

  • Unregisterred007

    Dam, he tore them a new one…. 2… out of 10…

  • A-Thor-able

    Meh. The game looks great to me so I’m buying it day one.

    • Jawes

      THOR!

      • A-Thor-able

        BILLY BOY!!

        • Jawes

          Touch me!

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      Thor!

      • A-Thor-able

        LEO!

        • God Bless MS’s Rare

          ready to partay?

    • Andrew Barloq

      Enjoy. 🙂

      • A-Thor-able

        I will do hopefully, from what I’ve Seen it looks fun.

    • THOR!!!

      (I don’t know you. I just wanted to join in on the fun.)

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        PIERS!

        • *whispers like Dr. Evil and Mini-Me to each other* Leo!

          • Fallen Prime

            Chief?

      • A-Thor-able

        PIERS!!

        Nice to meet you

      • Jawes

        PPPIIIIIEEEERRRRSSSS!

        • JAWES!!!

          Aw yeah, I’m feeling the love tonight.

          (Pounding it)

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            we found ourselves a new m8

          • Anton

            Among all this gr8 b8

          • InfamousDS

            8.8/Hate

          • Jawes

            I’ll pound you alright.

          • Buy me dinner, first. I’m a whore, but I’m not cheap.

          • Jawes

            Hmmm deal.

            You want steak to go with your meat?

          • Yes, well done.

          • Jawes

            Pick you up at 5?

          • Make it 5:30. Need more time to put on make-up.

          • Jawes

            If I make it 6 can I watch you through the window while you put that tight dress on?

          • EmperorSRB

            The hell you think you’re doing stealing my PIERS ?

          • Jawes

            Back up bitch!

          • Guys, GUYS. There’s plenty of me to go around. Sharing is caring.

          • Jawes

            Nuh uh you my man!

          • *snaps fingers all Jerry Springer bitch like* Uh uh, I am my own man! I belong to no one! You should be GROVELING at my feet for even a chance at me, you jealous thing!

          • Anton

            Can I hold the camera? I just want to participate in any way I can.

          • EmperorSRB

            You hold my jacket ! I have some things to take care of !

          • EmperorSRB

            Ohh, you’re in for it now man !

          • On second thought…*sits back, gets comfortable* Please fight over me.

          • Jawes

            (Takes off earrings and jewelry)

            Bitch come at me!

          • EmperorSRB

            *cracking knuckles*

            Let’s do this !
            Just leave the face out !

          • I am so hot right now.

          • EmperorSRB

            You’ll be steaming once I’m done with this dude !

          • Anton

            ….but are you bothered?

          • Always!

          • Jawes

            *Unzips pants*

            Helicopter dick, GO!

          • EmperorSRB

            You’re going all in are you. Well *unzip*, i’ll use it as a bat.

          • Jawes

            My helicopter dick with whittle your bat down to a tooth pick!

          • EmperorSRB

            Depend’s on which one breaks first !

          • Jawes

            Lets lock eyes and find out!!

          • EmperorSRB

            Already at it !

          • Oh fuck yes. I’ll even wait to put on my leggings.

          • Jawes

            Mmmmm hot damn. You wearing the red or blue dress tonight?

            (Please be red!)

          • Tonight’s a special occasion.

            I’m wearing the BLACK dress.

          • Jawes

            Actually can we make the date for tomorrow?

            I just jizzed in my pants…

          • Crispman

            Where?

          • Matrim

            JANET
            DOCTOR SCOTT
            JANET
            BRAD
            ROCKY

  • ngwoo

    Pretty much what I feared – the promo materials made the worlds look pretty sparse and boring. I didn’t want to hear that it was “Banjo again but with no charm”, but it seems like it is.

    I’ll probably still check it out because it’s so divisive, but I’ll definitely have a two-hour refund timer set.

  • Lloyd

    *sighs and places a hand on the shoulder of Bloodstained:RotN, looking together at MN9 and YL*

    No pressure, kiddo… : /

  • TomMassey250

    Its really hard to take any of this review seriously as it seems Jim is only looking to play specific types of games, and comes down so hard and brutal on anything that isn’t what he’s personally interested in, it becomes non-coherant and useless to a person looking to gleem some information about a new game and its pros and cons.

    • This review didn’t read to me as a type of game he just didn’t care for. That was Zelda.

      He specifically lists out several things that didn’t work, like the camera, the controls, the levels, etc. This wasn’t just a case of different tastes.

    • EmperorSRB

      He backed up the game on Kickstarter so I believe he was interested in it.
      Why would he do so if he weren’t.

    • Jawes

      Yeah not sure how he reviews The Order and The Last Guardian more than this… those games SUFFERED from bad gameplay and camera controls etc.

      • TomMassey250

        It feels like real double standards and a very confusing review. Some things mentioned in some games are literally unplayable, others are not a problem at all. As you mentioned with those games they did suffer from the problems. Yet here this game is so brutally smashed I don’t really see where its coming from.

        • Jawes

          Jim is getting too caught up in reviewing things outside the game… his own personal bias is getting to involved in honestly reviewing games. i feel his low score for Zelda was directly impacted by his views on Nintendo not letting him stream their games and make money off it.

          • TomMassey250

            I also get that feeling. Like its fine if he didn’t like it, but the brutality of the review, the harshness of its words, as someone on the fence about this game I’m pretty shocked to hear what he had to say about it. I bought the toybox+ pre-order after reading this review to see if any of it was true.

          • I honestly don’t think so. I think the breaking weapons thing pissed him off too much. Can’t say I blame him. It’d piss me off, too.

            But I mean, personal bias is all about what makes reviews in the first place.

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            I don’t think complaining about the weapon durability was the worst part about it, as it bothered me a bit

            but complaining about not being able to climb rocks during rainy weather….well, that’s physics for you lol

      • Alex Wheatley

        I think the issue here is that the camera/control/etc problems in this game are literally the same problems that BK had over a decade ago. It’s one thing to have a poorly-designed camera which harms the game (I.e. Last Guardian). That’s unfortunate. It’s quite another thing to reuse a decade-old camera system which you already know caused people issues last time, without apparently doing anything to try and improve it. It’s a shades-of-grey kind of argument, but I think there is a distinction to be made.

    • Xell

      If it wasn’t for him, then he would have said it wasn’t very early in the review, because that’s the kind of person he is. He also wouldn’t have said how he backed them on Kickstarter, because he wouldn’t have backed them.

      In fact, he’s biased in the opposite direction. he WANTED the game to be better so he probably slammed it HARDER

    • Alex Wheatley

      He *supported this game on KickStarter* because of his love for this type of game. He covered the game’s conception way back when with praise in a Jimquisition episode, and has been looking forward to it eagerly. As someone with a financial vested interest in the game via KS, he’ll be actively looking for nice things to say about – actively wanting to to love it. The fact that he can’t is very telling. This is exactly the type of game he wanted to play, and he found it unenjoyable.

      • John Smith

        I think Jim once said he backed this game because he just wanted to flip the AAA industry off. So, I don’t think he really likes this kind of game…

  • TJ Barke

    That’s a shame.

  • jonen

    When somebody said jim gave it a 2 i thought it was a joke. oh well, i’l still be getting it and see if it’s really that bad.

    • TomMassey250

      Same with me, perhaps thats his plan all along. Make a review so negative it spurs you to question its legitimacy, and to try the game for yourself.

      • Nitrium

        I actually did that with Vendetta: Curse of Raven’s Cry (which Jim gave a 1/10 to). It just didn’t look THAT bad to me. But I still haven’t gotten around to playing it, so can’t say one way or another.

  • Jenna Wondolowski

    Both Velvet Assassin and Knight’s Contract had a lot of problems but they were still a lot of fun and I really enjoyed Knight’s Contract’s story.

  • Glabatron

    Fuck me this comment section is buggered, why did we even bother with computers anyway?

    • Anton

      Porn

      • Jawes

        Wanna make some?

        • Anton

          Yeah, I’m signed on to film you and piers tonight

          • Jawes

            Its not prostitution if you film it!

          • Anton

            LYF HAXX

      • Crispman

        For the POUNDING of IT

  • Fallen Prime

    The comment section, for the uninitiated, is three parts disappointment over the lackluster nature of a promising game, two parts impotent baby-man rage over a review score, and one part unrelated flirting.

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      wanna join the latter?

      • Fallen Prime

        I have a midterm to make up first.

    • Crispman

      You forgot the added POUNDING IT for toppings

      • Matrim

        I have to say, every time I came across a POUNDING IT, I chortled inappropriately loudly

        • Crispman

          Every time I think about the clip I end up laughing to myself like a madman

          • Matrim

            I’m playing Dragon Age Inquisition, and every time I see the Iron Bull I can’t help but going into the “pounding it” routine

          • Crispman

            I’m trying to make it an all round house hold phrase. I think it’s got potential to catch on.

        • Jawes

          Every time I see someone use “chortled” I laugh… weird word.

          • Anton

            How about a nice hearty guffaw?

          • Jawes

            I’ll like to guffaw on your face.

          • Anton

            Shhh, not so loud, Piers will know!

          • Jawes

            Yeah, plus I can’t let people know I’m banging the camera man… ew that would kill my career.

          • Anton

            You can have an all new career in POV

          • It’s okay! We can all share!

          • EmperorSRB

            We’re turning this into an orgy, and I like it !

          • Anton

            We just need Jim.

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

          • Anton

            What are you, straight or something? ‘Cause I’ll have you know, this is on’a’dem Ess-Jay-Dubya joints, your kind ain’t welcome round these here parts!

          • Jawes

            I specialize in gay orgies.

          • EmperorSRB

            Never expected anything less. Gather the guys, It’s time to party !

          • Anton
    • You say unrelated like it means nothing.

      I am a hot commodity, thank you very much. Already have two people fighting over me. You’re welcome to join in.

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        I thought the Jimquisition was a place of hatred, but man was I wrong

        • Oh, there’s plenty of hatred. You see how fiercely they’re fighting over me? They’ll all be fighting for a piece of me and it’ll be the most glorious of hate fucks.

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            but they’re fighting for love, that’s worth fighting for

      • Jawes

        Ooooo baby you work dem jeggings

    • Jawes

      Touch me in my Prime spot.

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        your fallen prime spot

        • Jawes

          No its standing at attention right now.

    • Fallen Prime

      And I am not disappointed by what this snippet of thread turned into.

      I must away for the moment. I may do sex at y’all later.

    • Anton

      That last part is getting bigger by the minute.

      Giggity

    • Wolfie

      You can fall onto my prime any day of the week.

      I DON’T CARE IF THAT JOKE’S BEEN MADE! It’s not like I have a lot to work with! Penis!

  • Ignotica

    Looking forward to playing this. Shame about the Wii-U version.

  • Neon Black

    ”Laylee is a complete racist, and as facetious as I’m being here, she really does come off as a hateful, nasty, thoroughly unlikable little bastard.”

    Yet they didn’t want to associate with Jon Tron. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    Discuss.

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      “she really does come off as a hateful, nasty, thoroughly unlikable little bastard”

      just like Kazooie!
      day one purchase

    • Billy Bissette

      Now we know who JonTron voiced.

  • GrimmyReaper

    Have no opinion of the game, haven’t played it.
    But either way; get ready for a shitstorm Jim. You know it’s coming xD

    • It’s okay. Jim loves when things come.

      • Jawes

        We still talking about Jim?

    • Anton

      …I’m guessing you haven’t scrolled down yet.

      • GrimmyReaper

        Honestly, I’m just gonna wait until it’s brought up in a video.
        …. Is it already a shitstorm?

        • Anton

          Oh, there’s all sorts of bodily fluids flying around.

          • I’ve already gotten off like ten times.

          • Crispman

            Somebody’s not POUNDING IT hard enooooouuugh!

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            you say it as if it was a bad thing

        • EmperorSRB

          It’s not a shitstorm, It’s a category 5 hurricane !

        • Crispman

          They even have their own champion! See if you can guess who it is!

    • Crispman

      Ohhhhhhh. Do I have a story to tell you… It all started when I was POUNDING IT

      • Jawes

        Piers won’t be able to shit right for a week

        • God Bless MS’s Rare

          on the contrary, it’ll make the shitting process even easier

          • Jawes

            Keep a bed pan with him.

          • Anton

            Or a nice German glass table

          • Jawes

            Or a cup…

      • GrimmyReaper

        Pounding it !

        • SmaMan

          …Pounding it!

    • EmperorSRB

      You haven’t scrolled deep enough yet !

    • Alex Wheatley

      This website was down half the day – shitstorm is already well underway!

      • FlawlessVictory

        That’s just standard when Jim releases a popular new review. The popularity of his blog exceeds the capability of the server its hosted on. He’s acknowledged he needs to address this.

  • Charles Summers

    I’m really feeling devastated by this. I was excited for Yooka Laylee, but after this, I’m not sure anyway. The people complaining about Jon Tron and spamming the Yooka Laylee message boards were pretty bad, but overall, I care about the final product more.

    I was looking forward to a spiritual successor to a 3d platformer that I favored, but now I’m wondering if I should sell my code once its emailed to me.

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      well, there is more than one review on the internet, if it helps

  • Jundarr Tromp

    For Jontron! Also seriously hypocritical much that you remove a guy who expressed his political opinion on a stream when you have a main character who uses hateful slurs. You people are liars saying you don’t share his views yet you actually do.

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      well I’m not American so….

    • CyanManta

      If you’re here because you think Jim supports JonTron, I’ve got some bad news for you…

      • Riosine

        What!? Are you implying that the low review score isn’t a subtle apology to the Jontron Situation.

        • EmperorSRB

          Wait, Isn’t it !?

          • Jawes

            I’M SO CONFUSED
            .
            .
            .
            SEXUALLY!

          • ipwnerz

            Alright, THAT’S it. let’s fuck.

    • Bosch

      Uh… I think you might be on the wrong webpage, champ. Playtonic’s on a completely different site.

  • Mr. Morosov

    After the JonTron debate, now Jim’s gonna have his share. :v

  • Harry Mitchell -MUSIC-

    GEX IS STILL LIZRD KING

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      Yooka-Laylee should have been “Gex & Aero the Acro-Bat: Ultimate Team”

    • Jawes

      Gex! Fu ck yeah!

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        you can say fuck here

        • God Bless MS’s Rare

          fuck fuck fuckity fuck

          • Crispman

            BTW, does this site have any profanity filtering?

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            have you seen the infantile language the site’s owner uses? it would be mega hypocritical for this place to have filters lol

          • 09philj

            Cunt arse piss bollocks fuck shit bastard wank bugger git tits.

        • Jawes

          Oh… well fuck you right in your fucking face while Peirs fucks your sweet 3rd world brown fuck hole!

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            it’s not brown, it’s like beige

          • Anton

            That’s what lipstick is for.

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            oh you…

      • Riosine

        Yay Gecko Hemipenii = Double fun

  • Viking Mana

    I wonder how the paranoid weirdos are going to spin this one. I mean, you’d think Jim, assuming he’s this agent of the SJW-movement, would praise the game extensively for cutting out the evul Nazi JonTron, yet he doesn’t – So which side is he on?

    The plot thickens!

    In all seriousness though, kind of sad that it fared so poorly. We could all do with a lighthearted success of a game.

    • Jawes

      Sweaty
      Juicy
      Whore’s

    • Sonydrone

      Or you can stop ride Jim’s dick and read other reviews.

      • EmperorSRB

        Heeey, you’re back ! I missed you !

      • Crispman

        But then how would I POUND IT?

        • God Bless MS’s Rare

          by POUNDING IT regardless

      • Viking Mana

        I’m not sure how that relates to my comment. I’m also not sure that you caught my not-so-subtle jab at Jim’s opinion on the whole JonTron-drama.

        Don’t worry dude, I can handle both their dicks.

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      but his review is the only abnormally low review out there

    • Jawes

      Sock
      Jousting
      Wangs

    • Jawes

      Slutty
      Jubilant
      Women

    • Jawes

      Sharing
      Jawes’s
      Wiener

    • Riosine

      he is obviously playing a double agent for his own ulterior motives like world domination, I mean you know, he is Fat what more proof you need to assert he is a kingpin level super villian?

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        he is British, and British people are evil

        • Crispman

          Aww, come on now… only when we want to be!

          • Viking Mana

            Which is ALL the time! Plotting, scheming.. Sniveling!

          • Crispman

            Nahhhhhh… That’s our politicians!

      • Viking Mana

        So you’re saying I’M a Kingpin-level supervillain too? o.O

        • Jawes

          Are you bald and fat?

    • Artemiy

      I mean, they always have their “clickbait” excuse. Because Patreon money are tied to clicks somehow.

      • Viking Mana

        Oh, I love that! When people toss out the clickbait accusations.

  • Jessica_cowgirl

    I need to be aroused

    • Jawes

      Well you came to the right place, darlin.

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      ello there

    • Jawes

      How do you feel about multiple male… strike that… all male orgies?

    • Jessica_cowgirl

      As I hear, TheJimquisition is this fabulous place to experience the sex, no?

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        unoit

      • Jawes

        Just give me a minute to warm up.

        • God Bless MS’s Rare

          ^ he meant take a cialis

        • Jawes

          make it 30 seconds to warm up… a minute is all I have.

        • Crispman

          Hey! You don’t know I’m a man! I mean, I am, but that’s besides the point!

          • Jawes

            Its the internet… I just assume everyone is a dude.

      • EmperorSRB

        Just jump into the pile !
        You’re late !

    • Crispman

      The first thing you’ll want to do is to start POUNDING ITI!!!

  • God Bless MS’s Rare

    maybe the next Jimquisition episode won’t be about YL’s fanbase backlashing the fella but instead about the love shack this thread has become

    • Jawes

      Love shack, baby love shack!

    • Anton

      This thread has out-podquisitioned Podquisition

  • Arend

    I’ve seen a LOT of comments that deem the game as awful, based SOLELY on this one review, some even regretting to fund for it.

    I honestly find that astonishing.

    Jim Sterling’s review is absolutely not the average score that Yooka-Laylee gets, nor is it the median or the mass amount. It is the lowest score I’ve seen so far and the only score that goes so low.

    I recommend people to look at the other reviews of this game before declaring that the game has to be bad. I probably get flak for saying this, but Metacritic’s got a collection of reviews to check out.

    Remember that this review is just the opinion of one guy, not a factual description.

    • Jessica_cowgirl

      Who’s talking about the review anymore?

      • Anton

        These assholes are derailing our gangbang!

        • 09philj

          [Smiles in sexual]

      • Jawes

        What review? Where am I? I just see balls and ass everywhere.

    • EmperorSRB

      Review ? Man you’re late to the party. Just jump in the back, we’ll get you up to speed.

      • Anton

        Just….jump in? Man, you guys really loosened Piers up, huh?

        • Jawes

          Like throwing a hot dog down a hallway at this point.

          • Anton

            Fuck it, throw the whole pack.

          • Jawes

            Gunna pretend you’re the entire NY Yankees.

        • EmperorSRB

          At least now you can get a couple of them in there, no need for only one guy to have fun.

    • Jawes

      I see a lot of comments about our orgy.

      • Arend

        Those must’ve popped up while my slow ass was typing my comment about the comments in the far back. Which are as face-value as I made them out to be btw

        • Jawes

          The only face-value around here is how much load Piers has on his.

        • EmperorSRB

          Those that base their opinions only on one man’s review are fools.
          Always have a couple of reviews handy if you’re willing to inform on as much as it’s possible.

          • Jawes

            This applies to sex also.

          • EmperorSRB

            Exactly.

    • Otherhand

      I looked at Metacritic to see what the fuss was about. The average was 64. Tons of reviews are just as damning as this one in tone, but not everyone uses their ten scale in the same way.

      (Not that this justifies people saying, “How dare you, the rest of Metacritic loves it” in the case of any game, you understand. I’m just saying people may have read other reviews today of which this is only the latest, and decided to give it a wide berth.)

  • BlueBarren

    I feel like this review isn’t representative of Playtonics skill or the game they chose to make. If anything I think this review better represents the people who wanted this game and paid for it. Apparently those people wanted a game that is past it’s time which apparently equals “bad”.

    A majority of Jim’s issues seems to be with the actual design of the game, whether it be with features, characters, writing, what have you. All the things he listed are the things we found so enjoyable and memorable from those classic Rare games; a Rare flavour if you will. Now the reasons such “bad” design choices were made is because that’s what the fans wanted, it’s what we demanded from Playtonics. We wanted a game that truly embodies what we loved about those old games. We found stuff like the writing and character noises to be comedic, the requirement of finding levels in the hub world or the retro style games that used the regular engine of the game. We wanted these things and many more because that’s what a classic Rare title is to us.

    According to Jim however we shouldn’t want the things we know we enjoy in a game, that we know we enjoy seeing certain people create. Having these features in a game is apparently going to make bad experiences and a bad game. So if it was our desire for a game that embodies the classic 3D Rare Platformer then I think this score is more representative of us than it is of Playtonics. According to Jim Sterling we wanted a bad game and that’s exactly what we got.

    Disclaimer: I’m a long time fan of the Banjo Series and classic Rare games. I backed Yooka-Laylee and still look forward to playing it.

    • 09philj

      You reposted in the wrong sex party.

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        you were from IGN werentcha?

        • God Bless MS’s Rare

          I member that lovely Alec face

        • 09philj

          IGN? Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long, long time.

          Wait, wrong Alec Guinness character.

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            we were from there, until the great fyre happened

          • 09philj

            Literally killed IGN blogs, that did.

          • Stray The people smuggler 2615

            Ex ign guys chill at disqusting place disqus channel if you wanna chill, follow my history 😉

    • Bakuryukun

      Why would his review be representative of anything other than his own opinion of the game that he played? He’s not telling you to not enjoy the game, he’s telling you that HE didn’t enjoy the game. Don’t take reviews so personally geez.

    • Dariush

      Rare was the top of the quality for every genre they explored, at the time. I think that’s being good old “Rare”. This is just a nostalgia trip and that’s not rare at all.

  • Marcel

    I don’t get it. For years people praised BK and wanted another game mad ein the same style. YOu get exactly that and it sucks because it hasn’t changed…goal posts keep moving.

    • Arturis Dentalis

      Exactly that? Were the camera, controls, audio etc. as annoying in BK as they seem to be in this? I don’t think so.

  • Wolfie

    I come by short after it’s been up, a lot of disappointment. I return, and people fucking all over the place, left and right.

    How did this happen? Not that I’m complaining, mind you.

    • Jawes

      Do you howl when you penetrate, Wolfie?

      • Wolfie

        No, I bark, and then I grab on and start shaking you around like meat.

        • Jawes

          But my meat IS in your mouth still… I like where this is going.

          • Wolfie

            I can’t promise the place’ll be clean afterwards.

          • Jawes

            …. well…. this aint my place.

          • Wolfie

            To be fair, have you seen Jimsaw’s garage?

          • EmperorSRB

            We don’t need clean.

          • Jawes

            Aint my house!

          • EmperorSRB

            You gotcha brother !

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      you’re welcome

  • Nat Bradbury

    Well that’s a bloody shame…I never really liked Banjo-Kazooi, bit it’s just a pisser that another indie project turned out like that. Nice review :).

    • Jawes

      What review?

      • God Bless MS’s Rare

        I think it was about a lizard and a bat and a snake in a hat

        • Jawes

          Trouser snake?

          • Crispman

            No no. Hat snake. As in “you sir are a Hat Snake!”

          • Jawes

            Huh… Interesting. Is this a head strap on?

          • Crispman

            Depends on what the people want!

          • 09philj

            Latex forehead strapons, man that takes me back…

          • Crispman

            Toooo… when, exactly?

          • Jawes

            … last night.

          • 09philj

            The latex forehead strapon wars.

          • Cheesy N4chos

            Hi Jawes, lol

          • Jawes

            I hath turned this place into a gay orgy!

        • Jessica_cowgirl

          In french, “bat” is a slang for dick, which is fitting

          • Jawes

            Wanna touch my bat? (in french)

          • Jessica_cowgirl

            You betcha I’ll milk your bat dry

          • God Bless MS’s Rare

            sacrebleu!

          • Jawes

            Are you batman?

          • Crispman

            Oh I get it! Cowgirl… milking… HAHAHAHAcanibethecow?

          • Crispman

            TIL: French!

      • Nat Bradbury

        The thing you just read 🙂

    • DrJimmyCakes

      Copy a gay game.. get gay results … amirite?

      • 09philj

        Not as gay as this comment section.

        Hello sailor. 😉

        • DrJimmyCakes

          Oh lawd

          • *Waves a hankerchief.* YOO-HOOOO!

          • DrJimmyCakes

            Allo

      • Jawes

        Oh finally… Jim Jam gimme some of dat ham!

        • DrJimmyCakes

          Drizzled with honey

          • Jawes

            I came.

      • Nat Bradbury

        I just hope it doesn’t make anybody cry like an anime fan on prom night -_-

        • DrJimmyCakes

          Ha…

  • Jlv2017

    Oh Jimmay. Jimboy strikes again!

  • Cheesy N4chos

    DP takes over the Jimquisition thread? lol

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      we found a new home!

      • Cheesy N4chos

        pls no

        • Cheesy N4chos

          I’m here just for this review lol

    • Jlv2017

      Everyone’s Gone to DP

    • Brony the Templar Knight™

      yeah a raid

    • Riosine

      DP Raid

  • fastlanestranger

    Jimsplaining. So HOT right now.

  • Wolfie

    So every time a highly anticipated major release doesn’t go as well as it should *cough BREATHOFTHEWILD7/10 cough* can we make this whole orgy thing… a thing?

    I mean, like seriously. I’d totally be okay with drowning out all the whining shitting little buggers screaming about click bait and what not with raw sexual deviance. Like as soon as they start blowing until their faces turn red with the rush of blood, just pounding away at the floodgates of unscrupulous hate with unmitigated flirtations and invitations.

    Pounding it. Pounding it. Pounding it… pounding it… pounding it… pounding it…

    • Jawes

      As long as I’m around… the dicks will follow!

    • 09philj

      I second this.

    • Brony the Templar Knight™

      Are u saying BOTW sucks?

      • Brony the Templar Knight™

        nvm

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship

    • DeathWielder1

      I approve of the orgy

    • EmperorSRB

      THIS MAN SPEAKS !

      • Jawes

        With a cock in his mouth even… he is talented.

    • Crispman

      Good… It’s beginning…

    • So you’re saying every time Jim posts a highly controversial review, we all strip, oil up, and start fucking each other up the ass? Our glistening, sweaty balls slapping against our bare, jiggling fat asses? Cocks penetrating chocolate starfishes left and right? Turning Genital Jousting into a reality? Can we all wear Boglin masks?

      Fucking hell, I am so rock hard at this idea. LET THE ORGIES CONTINUE!

      • Jawes

        We need to be friends…

      • Wolfie

        Maybe, right? Just maybe if we fornicate hard enough… Master Sterling, Lord of the Silver Cocklands, will come and grace us with his presence, and the orgy shall be blessed, and the fluids will run across the rivers of the land, and the mountains will shake with the release of their hot liquids.

  • Stray The people smuggler 2615

    Turf war!!!!!!!

  • All right, I’m back. Sorry my gangbangers. I was on the phone. How much of the giant man orgy did I miss?

    • God Bless MS’s Rare

      we have agreed to orgy every thread up

    • Jawes

      Well I came thrice, but I got one more in the chamber for you.

      • Only one? I’m almost insulted.

        • Wolfie

          I like to imagine it’s like a game of Russian Roulette.

        • Jawes

          Gimme a minute and a Gatorade and i’ll be back in fully loaded.

          • I’ll get my red stockings.

          • EmperorSRB

            I’ll take over, we can switch afterwards. We don’t need stuff to go to waste now, do we ?